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	<title>Comments on: If You Support the Outgames, You Can&#8217;t Support the Gay Games?</title>
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	<description>Free of an agenda. Except that gay one.</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-341012</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh . . . sorta like back in the 1960s and &#039;70s bodybuilders had the AAU on one side and the IFBB on the other, each organization run by egocentric executives bent on beating the other organization into submission.  

As my dermatologist once quipped, &quot;It&#039;s meaningless tripe that  doesn&#039;t boil down to anything.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh . . . sorta like back in the 1960s and &#8217;70s bodybuilders had the AAU on one side and the IFBB on the other, each organization run by egocentric executives bent on beating the other organization into submission.  </p>
<p>As my dermatologist once quipped, &#8220;It&#8217;s meaningless tripe that  doesn&#8217;t boil down to anything.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tackle</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-310181</link>
		<dc:creator>Tackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in as another who is distrcated by that incredible backside. I konw this is off the subject, Does anyone know who the athlete is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in as another who is distrcated by that incredible backside. I konw this is off the subject, Does anyone know who the athlete is?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309835</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FGG awarded the 2006 gay games to Montreal, but the Montreal organizers got in a pissing match with the FGG over the organization (Montreal was being unrealistic in its participation estimates and FGG was worried that Montreal would be yet another in a string of fiscally irresponsible gay games that were nothing more than a masked circuit party).  The resulting breakdown ended with a switch of host cities to Chicago.  The Montreal organizers decided to go give the finger to FGG by creating Outgames and trying to siphon off as many participants to their event.  Since the FGG was primarily an American organization and the new host was in the US, the Montreal organizers used anti-Americanism to deter participants from the real gay games in Chicago (this was at the height of international frustration with the Bush administration).  Montreal cooked the books wrt its participation numbers and the entire thing became a financial mess as FGG had predicted.  The Chicago games, despite being called in at the last minute to save the event and having almost no time to completely organize, were a moderate success.

Since the, Outgames has tried to organize similar games, with very little success.  The Copenhagen games were... meh.

There simply aren&#039;t enough high calibre gay athletes to support two nearly identical sporting tournaments every couple of years.  Thankfully, it appears that Outgames is throwing in the towel after 2018.

Can you support both?  I suppose.  But when you know the origins of the Outgames, it becomes clear why you shouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FGG awarded the 2006 gay games to Montreal, but the Montreal organizers got in a pissing match with the FGG over the organization (Montreal was being unrealistic in its participation estimates and FGG was worried that Montreal would be yet another in a string of fiscally irresponsible gay games that were nothing more than a masked circuit party).  The resulting breakdown ended with a switch of host cities to Chicago.  The Montreal organizers decided to go give the finger to FGG by creating Outgames and trying to siphon off as many participants to their event.  Since the FGG was primarily an American organization and the new host was in the US, the Montreal organizers used anti-Americanism to deter participants from the real gay games in Chicago (this was at the height of international frustration with the Bush administration).  Montreal cooked the books wrt its participation numbers and the entire thing became a financial mess as FGG had predicted.  The Chicago games, despite being called in at the last minute to save the event and having almost no time to completely organize, were a moderate success.</p>
<p>Since the, Outgames has tried to organize similar games, with very little success.  The Copenhagen games were&#8230; meh.</p>
<p>There simply aren&#8217;t enough high calibre gay athletes to support two nearly identical sporting tournaments every couple of years.  Thankfully, it appears that Outgames is throwing in the towel after 2018.</p>
<p>Can you support both?  I suppose.  But when you know the origins of the Outgames, it becomes clear why you shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309371</link>
		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m way too distracted by that particular angle of the swimmer photographed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m way too distracted by that particular angle of the swimmer photographed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted B.</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309309</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the two groups are unifying in 2018, this shouldn&#039;t be an issue, soon.  Otherwise, they should just alternate years like the Winter and Summer Olympics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the two groups are unifying in 2018, this shouldn&#8217;t be an issue, soon.  Otherwise, they should just alternate years like the Winter and Summer Olympics.</p>
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		<title>By: Qjersey</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309225</link>
		<dc:creator>Qjersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Out Games start to begin with because of some pissing contest about where to hold the Gay Games? 

I love and enjoy donating my time to our communities. But I am continually disgusted with the selfish &quot;my issues&quot; centered way queer politics operate. Always some angry person demanding representation or some off the hook PC attempt to be inclusive by adding more letters to LGBT. 

Don&#039;t let your kid &quot;TP&quot; someones house. The freaks in SF will protest in front of Your house because your kids disrespected the environment. If they could only channel their rage and anger into useful progressive tactics on relevant issues. 

We make the democrats looks like republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Out Games start to begin with because of some pissing contest about where to hold the Gay Games? </p>
<p>I love and enjoy donating my time to our communities. But I am continually disgusted with the selfish &#8220;my issues&#8221; centered way queer politics operate. Always some angry person demanding representation or some off the hook PC attempt to be inclusive by adding more letters to LGBT. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let your kid &#8220;TP&#8221; someones house. The freaks in SF will protest in front of Your house because your kids disrespected the environment. If they could only channel their rage and anger into useful progressive tactics on relevant issues. </p>
<p>We make the democrats looks like republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309223</link>
		<dc:creator>DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do agree that resources are thin (especially for the athletes who have to pay their own way) and wonder why we need two games, this was not the right way to approach it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do agree that resources are thin (especially for the athletes who have to pay their own way) and wonder why we need two games, this was not the right way to approach it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Thor</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309192</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never knew there was such an industry for sports. &quot;Gay &amp; Lesbian International Sports Association&quot; really an organization like that exists. It great that it does, and its great that there are two gay Olympic things, just very surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never knew there was such an industry for sports. &#8220;Gay &amp; Lesbian International Sports Association&#8221; really an organization like that exists. It great that it does, and its great that there are two gay Olympic things, just very surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/if-you-support-the-outgames-you-cant-support-the-gay-games-20100603/#comment-309191</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason I have blue fabric fuzz all over my face......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I have blue fabric fuzz all over my face&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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