Time it takes to “swipe left” on Tinder, thus confirming that you are not interested in chatting, ever: approximately one second.
Time it takes to report someone as “inappropriate” on Tinder: longer than swiping left.
So one might assume that people would only flag each other for doing something actually inappropriate, and not just for being a living, breathing trans person.
But that’s what many trans Tinder users are experiencing on the app in the form of suddenly having their accounts banned due to other users’ complaints.
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One user, Molly McGlone, found herself banned only to contact Tinder and get reactivated. Then she got banned again without warning.
@Tinder keep being rprtd for being trans hvnt met up irl never msg unless msg first. I msg supprt, got generic rspnse pic.twitter.com/bpDyW8DCnU
— Molly McGlone (@mollymcglone11) April 29, 2015
Nowhere in Tinder’s community guidelines does it mention anything about being transgender, and there are currently only two gender options to choose from on the app.
The company did release this statement, though:
“If we find that a user has been wrongfully banned, then we ‘unban’ their account. This includes instances when transgender users are reported by others, but haven’t violated any of our community standards.”
It seems that Tinder is working towards finding a solution in lieu of the actual solution — that everyone needs to figure out how to be nice to each other. We’re pretty sure they teach that one in preschool.
If you aren’t into someone, swipe left. Could it be any simpler?
Paco
Abuse of reporting tools should be punished as well. Or have the repeat offenders abuse reports routed to the trash and ignored.
Blazipitous
I support Tinder with this.
Masc Pride
Why would a trans person use a dating app for heteros? Since there are “only” two gender options, was Molly using a gender option that doesn’t completely fit while looking to meet guys that are looking for girls? That’s just deceptive which could very reasonably be deemed inappropriate behavior.
Masc Pride
Also, Tindr states upfront they don’t have to give any reason in their ToS:
“The Company may terminate or suspend your account at any time without notice if the Company believes that you have breached this Agreement, or for any other reason, with or without cause, in its sole discretion. Upon such termination or suspension, you will not be entitled to any refund of unused fees for in app purchases. The Company is not required to disclose, and may be prohibited by law from disclosing, the reason for the termination or suspension of your account.”
https://www.gotinder.com/terms
aliengod
@Masc Pride: I agree with you. Seems odd that a trans person would use Tinder in the first place, unless they’re on there trying to deceive others.
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: Maybe she mentioned it on her profile. But it is very odd they reactivated her account just to delete it again. And who says she received anyone? Do you have proof of that claim?
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *deceived. damn autocorrect!
DarkZephyr
@Giancarlo85: According to what she posted on Twitter she hasn’t met up with anyone at all in real life. So she can’t even be accused of “tricking” anyone. Anyway the woman mentioned by name is only one of several Trans tinder users experiencing this.
AtticusBennett
Masc Pride is upset because he used Tindr with his drag queen profile and ended up in a bathroom bar sucking his dad’s dick. and YET, his dad STILL doesn’t love him!
Kieru
@Masc Pride: Why would a transgender person use an “app for heteros”? Probably because plenty of transgender folk are heterosexual. Transgender is a gender identity, and has nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
Masc Pride
@Kieru: That’s a logic/word game that most heterosexual guys on Tinder likely do not share, so it still wouldn’t make much sense to be on there cruising them (or waiting for them to message you).
But your comment raises a legit question: Is it just the gay transsexuals that represent the T? Because the L, G and B are all sexual orientations and have nothing to do with gender identity. Or are heteros now part of the community?
@aliengod: Yes, especially odd since the site offers male and female gender options only. Also interesting that Molly waits for guys to message first. I’ve seen trans documentaries on dating challenges, and it seems to be a common logic that it’s okay to lead people on as long as they initiate contact first.
Faggot
Article title: If You’re Trans On Tinder, Prepare To Get Banned For No Reason
Molly’s reason: @Tinder keep being rprtd for being trans hvnt met up irl never msg unless msg first. I msg supprt, got generic rspnse
So, which is it?
If it’s b/c Molly is, in fact, trans, how does Molly know this? If Molly has documentation stating that people have banned her b/c she’s trans, then all she has to do is show it.
Tinder made an APP to cater to its audience to mirror Grindr. Other APPs are out there too that are niche specific. Maybe t-people can make one that caters to what they’re looking for too.
cantstopme
@Masc Pride: FYI, Tinder is for gay people too. I’ve been on dates, with gay guys (I’m also a guy), on Tinder.
edwardnvirginia
QUOTE in the piece: “It seems that Tinder is working towards finding a solution in lieu of the actual solution — that everyone needs to figure out how to be nice to each other. We’re pretty sure they teach that one in preschool.” UNQUOTE
This journalistic statement/opinion from Queerty if baffling since Queerty routinely – in EVERY ISSUE – promotes ideas and groups that ARE NOT NICE to other LGBTQ, much less to other non-LGBTQ, and promotes stories that are VERY VERY un-nice to persons who are not supportive of LGBTQ.
Shaming, bullying, and (intentional?) factual misstatements are common in most Queerty issues … when it suits their editorial interests … uh, er … their self-regarding publicity and marketing interests.
Behavior that is unethical and ignorant among homophobic/transphobic persons/groups is also unethical and ignorant when Queerty does it.
But, of course, in a post-ethical world if you’re Putin, ISIS, or Monsanto you don’t need to act ethically.
Masc Pride
@cantstopme: Well yeah, I guess women could use Grindr to look for bisexual men. I guess any site can technically be for anybody, but there’s always a definite and dominant majority that is usually known. Just out of curiosity, why use Tinder to look for guys when there’s Grindr? Is it a different caliber of gays or something? lol
On a separate note, it’s so interesting how some of the same users that were openly bashing bisexuals who “don’t know the true struggles of being gay” because of supposedly “having the option to live as heterosexuals” don’t seem to have the same hostility towards “LGBT heterosexuality” in trans people. “Free of an agenda. Except that hypocritical one.”
cantstopme
@Masc Pride: I don’t know if you are aware of this…but being gay makes us the minority, in any site that offers dating for all people. Whether it’s Tinder, Match, or OkCupid. Gays can date on all these sites as well as straight people.
It’s like asking why black gays date on sites with predominately white gay men on them…
And FYI, I met my current boyfriend on Grindr (woohoo), so I’m not following your Grindr question. I am currently off of any dating sites and apps, but before him, I was on Grindr, Tinder and OkCupid at the same time….is that illegal? lol
Giancarlo85
@edwardnvirginia: You seem to read things that aren’t there. Who is shaming who here? Who is bullying who? What factual misstatements were made? Can you point them out? OR are you just spouting off more bullshit as you usually do?
@Masc Pride: You still don’t know what you’re talking about. Trans has to do with gender identity. And they are part of the community. Whether they are heterosexual, bisexual or gay.
cantstopme
@Masc Pride: Also, what’s up with the “Masc Pride” label? “Is it a different caliber of gays or something? lol” Free of an agenda. Except that hypocritical one.
Giancarlo85
@cantstopme: Don’t pay much attention to him… he’s a major hypocrite. He hates gay people who are out and open. He wants everyone to be fake masculine like him!
Avery Alvarez
@edwardnvirginia: “VERY VERY un-nice to persons who are not supportive of LGBTQ.”
Is there any reason we should be?
They killed beaten us, fired us from our jobs, denied us hospital visits with our loved one, kicked us out of our homes, and murdered us in the most torturous ways.
So please, explain to us, in detail, why we should be nice to them?
cantstopme
@Giancarlo85: ahhh self-loathing. I see. :/
Giancarlo85
@Avery Alvarez: He just wants us to pander to homophobes and transphobic assholes. That’s all. That’s what gay republicans do best.
Masc Pride
@cantstopme: It was just a simple question. No, it’s not illegal, and I actually never stated that it was. Sounds like you certainly got around though. Good luck to your current “boyfriend”. lol
cantstopme
@Masc Pride: WOW. LOL You triedddddd it.
Listen Linda, I have not slept with any of these dates and FYI, me and my boyfriend have not even had sex yet. That’s the thinking of men like you who are probably single, rushing into sex and ruining everything.
The only reason I got on Grindr was due to a friend’s advice (also met his boyfriend on Grindr), and within a week, I met my now boyfriend. But it’s good to know that you are a nasty person inside, to say something like that. Good luck trying to be a “straight” guy. “Masc Pride” LMAO Get out of here.
🙂
Masc Pride
@cantstopme: “Also, what’s up with the “Masc Pride” label?” You read correct! Masc Pride. Is using the word masc illegal or something?? Free of an agenda. Except that hypocritical one. 😉 😉
cantstopme
@Masc Pride: Yeah, it means you are a self-loathing gay guy who wants to be straight. But inside you love c*** and men. It’s really a hatred toward women deep down. Femininity scares you, or you think it is weak to express it. You are psychologically brain-washed but the truth is, you will never be straight, so embrace your rainbow. Free yourself. 🙂
Jacob23
I can’t comment on this specific situation with Tindr because the facts just aren’t known. But leaving aside this Tindr story, it is well known that transgenders generally love apps and hookup sites because it is a way for them to trick normal, non-transgender partners into sex. They have their own version of rape culture on trans blogs, which justifies rape-by-deception as a form of trans justice against “cis scum.”
Of course, they could hook up with other transgenders. That would solve all their alleged fears relating to rejection or violence. But you almost never see transgenders hooking up with each other. There are no T4T apps in existence. And why is this? It is because in their hearts they know that getting with a transgender isn’t the real deal. If you are a hetero “transman” and you want a woman, you really aren’t interested in a “transwoman” because you know that is not the genuine article. You want a real woman, not Bruce Jenner in a dress. Same with “transwomen” seeking men. They want a real man, not Chaz Bono pretending to be male under layers of fat.
Faggot
@edwardnvirginia:
“‘It seems that Tinder is working towards finding a solution in lieu of the actual solution — that everyone needs to figure out how to be nice to each other. We’re pretty sure they teach that one in preschool.’
This journalistic statement/opinion from Queerty if baffling since Queerty routinely – in EVERY ISSUE – promotes ideas and groups that ARE NOT NICE to other LGBTQ, much less to other non-LGBTQ, and promotes stories that are VERY VERY un-nice to persons who are not supportive of LGBTQ.
Shaming, bullying, and (intentional?) factual misstatements are common in most Queerty issues … when it suits their editorial interests … uh, er … their self-regarding publicity and marketing interests.
Behavior that is unethical and ignorant among homophobic/transphobic persons/groups is also unethical and ignorant when Queerty does it.
But, of course, in a post-ethical world if you’re Putin, ISIS, or Monsanto you don’t need to act ethically.”
How could you say such a thing? Why everyone in the comments sections here is playing nice just like they learned in preschool. LOL
Clark35
I’ve never used Tinder but I hear it’s full of fake profiles.
Giancarlo85
@Jacob23: More make believe fantasy. Trans people are generally not going to trick people and try to hook up with them with the threat of violence and injury (or worse). You really have no clue what you’re talking about. You seem to live in some kind of fantasy.
And yes, I know trans people who are together. And your generalizations about transmen and transwomen shows how a narrowminded bigot you really are.
Masc Pride
@cantstopme: Hey Atticus! Too obvious, dude, too obvious. lol
jason smeds
Anybody should be able to use Tinder, including those interested in non-heterosexual hook-ups. If a “trans-gender” wants to use it for a hook-up, he or she should be able to, so long as they make their positions clear.
cantstopme
@Masc Pride: I’m sorry, but I have no idea who Atticus is… :/
enfilmigult
@Jacob23: What’s all this “trick into sex” crap? I find it hard to believe anyone using Tinder to hook up makes sure to tell the person thier life story first, you know, just in case there’s something that will ruin their chances.
Masc Pride
@cantstopme: Absolutely hilarious how you and Giancrazy simply cannot stand to be ignored. Very common in those suffering from Histrionic Personality Disorder.
@enfilmigult: Telling someone you’re whole life story before hooking up isn’t necessary. Telling someone you were born the opposite sex of how you’re presenting yourself is information the other person has the right to know so they can decide for themselves. It’s just as bad as guys that feel entitled to conceal their HIV+ status from their partners.
Jacob23
@enfilmigult: Well that’s just the point. Transgenders know that telling the truth would “ruin their chances.” Or to put it another way, they know that their partners would not consent to sexual intercourse if they knew the truth. And since the most important thing is for transgenders is to gain access to their partners’ bodies for sexual pleasure, and since non-consent is an obstacle to that goal, they simply lie or conceal the truth. This is rape by deception and you can find plenty of trans bloggers justifying it. They want what they want and will not be told “no.” It is a trans rape culture.
@Giancarlo – lol! How many transgender couples do you know? What are their names? lol! You are such a liar. In any event, I don’t doubt that in this big old world there can be found the rare T/T couple here and there. There was one such creepy pair in the news a few years ago and I think that it was written up here on Queerty. But it is a very rare phenomenon. As noted, there isn’t one T4T app or dating website out there. Not one. What does that tell you? It tells you that transgenders do not want to get with other transgenders. So if transgenders – the people who know more about transgenders than anyone else – don’t want to date transgenders, why should normal people?
Giancarlo85
@Jacob23: You are the one that is a liar and you prove time and time again you know nothing about trans people. You just make up stuff as you go along. You are the biggest lying hypocrite on here. Stop claiming you know what you are talking about. You are not an authority on this community. You don’t even know much about other gay people, let alone other trans people. The way you talk about trans people shows how much of a nasty bigot you are. Normal people? You do realize many straight people think you are not normal for liking people of the same sex? You are a damn bigot who likes projecting his ignorance onto others.
enfilmigult
@Jacob23: “Transgenders know that telling the truth would ‘ruin their chances.’ Or to put it another way, they know that their partners would not consent to sexual intercourse if they knew the truth.”
I see, and how do they *know* this for a fact? I think “suspect” is about as strong a word as you can use there.
“And since the most important thing is for transgenders is to gain access to their partners’ bodies for sexual pleasure, and since non-consent is an obstacle to that goal, they simply lie or conceal the truth.”
Again, you just described nearly everybody looking for a quick hookup. (Except for the “simply lie” part, I doubt it comes up in conversation first if they wouldn’t know otherwise. Simply failing to mention certain things? Yes.)
I’m not seeing what’s supposed to be so repugnant about this. If a person would sleep with you, and does sleep with you, and has no complaints about the experience, and that’s the end of that, how awful is it really supposed to be that you failed to disclose something that would have changed their minds for no relevant reason? It’s not an STD infection we’re talking about; there’s no earthly justification for this being need-to-know information.
For instance, what if it was a guy looking for same-sex hookups, and what they declined to mention was that they were a hardcore Republican? This is information that has bupkus to do with the hookup itself, but might make some people not want to sleep with them. Are you really going to call it fucking RAPE if they don’t mention this to every person who swipes right? Come on.
AtticusBennett
guys, “masc pride” is a closet-case with daddy issues who’s never dated anyone, male or female. commenting here anonymously every day is the only interaction with humans he’s ever had.
know what anonymous internet trolls NEVER are? well liked, charismatic, attractive, successful, loved and accepted. internet anonymity is the last refuge of cowards.
Jacob23
@enfilmigult: Your comment is an encapsulation of the trans rape culture and is Exhibit A as to why law enforcement needs to make this a priority:
“I’m not seeing what’s supposed to be so repugnant about this. . . . there’s no earthly justification for this being need-to-know information. . . . Are you really going to call it fucking RAPE if they don’t mention this to every person who swipes right? Come on.”
This is rape culture. The partner – say a hetero male – does not consent to sexual intercourse with a biological male. The transgender understands this – that is precisely why s/he lies about it. That makes gender identity material to the giving of consent. That materiality makes it fundamentally different than other information, which either would not be material to consent or which one would not reasonably be charged with understanding to be material. In the case of a transgender hookup, there is both materiality and an understanding of materiality, thus disclosure is necessary. When disclosure is withheld, the resulting sexual intercourse is non-consensual sex, i.e., rape. The transgenders who engage in this are raping people because they get a thrill from passing and because they get sexual gratification from cisgender, aka normal people, that they cannot get from other transgenders. And they use the verbiage of trans activism to justify their criminal and immoral conduct.
LGBs who use these apps need to take screen shots and report these folks to law enforcement. The transgender’s attorney can try to argue to the jury that it wasn’t rape because the victim “had no complaints” while duped. Good luck with that.
AtticusBennett
@Jacob23: your transphobia is the mark of a worthless boy who likely was a complete disappointment to his entire family, and would be better of remaining in the closet he’s destined to live out his days.
Giancarlo85
@Jacob23: You keep projecting your lies and you have not yet posted any proof for your audacious nasty claims. I know more trans people then you, and my bestfriend is trans (doesn’t identify as any gender, but started HRT).
There is no rape culture. You are making that up. But then again, people are saying the same thing you said about trans people, about gay people. People use your same sort of logic to discriminate against gay people. You are a fumbling idiot and a hypocrite.
Learn how to make an actual argument. And again there is no such thing as “LGB”. Stop making up acronyms.