Comments on: Is HRC ‘So Out of Touch’ That Joe Solmonese Must Resign? http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:57:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Crazy82 http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-228141 Crazy82 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:41:09 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-228141 Presidential Medal of Freedom. , Presidential Medal of Freedom. ,

]]> By: Wolf49 http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-227785 Wolf49 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:39:18 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-227785 The distinction that is really important in the structure of small matter is whether atoms are bound together by those Heitler-London forces or whether they are not. , The distinction that is really important in the structure of small matter is whether atoms are bound together by those Heitler-London forces or whether they are not. ,

]]> By: Brett http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225386 Brett Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:17 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225386 So, again, Andrew proves that what's most important to everyone is his own soundbite. What a sad waste of intelligence. Angry, angry, angry. Talk about poster child for self loathing. So, again, Andrew proves that what’s most important to everyone is his own soundbite. What a sad waste of intelligence. Angry, angry, angry. Talk about poster child for self loathing.

]]> By: Phil Reese http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225211 Phil Reese Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:13:40 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225211 That's right! Listen to the former editor of the New Republic! That’s right! Listen to the former editor of the New Republic!

]]> By: Jim http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225142 Jim Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:27:19 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225142 Andrew Sullivan = Loser Andrew Sullivan = Loser

]]> By: Mark-n-Dallas http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225114 Mark-n-Dallas Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:47:05 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225114 The National Equality March did more good than HRC has in the last 5 years. STOP GIVING HRC OUR MONEY. The National Equality March did more good than HRC has in the last 5 years.

STOP GIVING HRC OUR MONEY.

]]> By: scottyboo http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225111 scottyboo Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:31:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225111 HMMM, doesnt Joe Solmonese have 338,000 reasons a year to make sure that it takes until his retirement to get equal rights? HMMM, doesnt Joe Solmonese have 338,000 reasons a year to make sure that it takes until his retirement to get equal rights?

]]> By: HRC is soooo 2000-and-late http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225104 HRC is soooo 2000-and-late Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:08:35 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225104 $300 million and NO results. Bye HRC. $300 million and NO results. Bye HRC.

]]> By: Dump Joe http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225050 Dump Joe Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:28:28 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225050 Oh Andrew Sullivan, you big angry bear, you rock my socks! Bring me the head of Joe Solmonese (metaphorically) and replace him with some who will demand more than cocktails from our President. Oh Andrew Sullivan, you big angry bear, you rock my socks!

Bring me the head of Joe Solmonese (metaphorically) and replace him with some who will demand more than cocktails from our President.

]]> By: schlukitz http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225046 schlukitz Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:20:38 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225046 My feelings are exactly the same as those of Andrew Sullivan. I am sad, incensed and infuriated> Oh...and did I mention that I am extremely pissed off? My feelings are exactly the same as those of Andrew Sullivan.

I am sad, incensed and infuriated>

Oh…and did I mention that I am extremely pissed off?

]]> By: Andrew http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225011 Andrew Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:18:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225011 HRC has spent $300 million in 29 years. We have NOTHING to show for it. Please STOP giving to HRC. HRC has spent $300 million in 29 years. We have NOTHING to show for it. Please STOP giving to HRC.

]]> By: Aa http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225005 Aa Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:01:36 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225005 @hardmannyc - he looks like an aging stoner in that poncho. But of course, he is. I don't care what he looks like. He's a wonderful writer, always has been. Even when he's making badly thought-out points (and he does sometimes) I can't help but admire his verbal talent. @hardmannyc – he looks like an aging stoner in that poncho. But of course, he is. I don’t care what he looks like. He’s a wonderful writer, always has been. Even when he’s making badly thought-out points (and he does sometimes) I can’t help but admire his verbal talent.

]]> By: Aa http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-225003 Aa Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:59:55 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-225003 I'm with Sullivan. Reading that letter from HRC was like a slap in the face. The so-called leading gay lobby group shouldn't be making excuses for Obama when people are being fired by Obama on a daily basis, when gay Americans lack basic citizenship rights. That is so freaking unacceptable. I'm glad HRC finally put it in words that they aren't interested in lobbying for gay rights, so gays in the US can stop sending checks. Shut 'em down. If you're going to get what you want you need to lobby hard and lobby every day. No compromises. Use the Israeli lobby groups as a model. Someone doesn't support repealing DADT when 75% of the country does, they're a bigot. Plain and simple. Make them accountable. I’m with Sullivan. Reading that letter from HRC was like a slap in the face. The so-called leading gay lobby group shouldn’t be making excuses for Obama when people are being fired by Obama on a daily basis, when gay Americans lack basic citizenship rights. That is so freaking unacceptable.

I’m glad HRC finally put it in words that they aren’t interested in lobbying for gay rights, so gays in the US can stop sending checks. Shut ‘em down. If you’re going to get what you want you need to lobby hard and lobby every day. No compromises. Use the Israeli lobby groups as a model. Someone doesn’t support repealing DADT when 75% of the country does, they’re a bigot. Plain and simple. Make them accountable.

]]> By: AlwaysGay http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224988 AlwaysGay Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:24:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224988 I agree with everything Andrew Sullivan said. I've said for months Joe Solmenese should resign because he's weak and incompetent. If you tailor your message to what heterosexuals want of you than you get the status quo; being silly, docile and subservient for heterosexuals. I agree with everything Andrew Sullivan said. I’ve said for months Joe Solmenese should resign because he’s weak and incompetent. If you tailor your message to what heterosexuals want of you than you get the status quo; being silly, docile and subservient for heterosexuals.

]]> By: hardmannyc http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224943 hardmannyc Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:54:43 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224943 Sullivan needs a good stylist before he goes on air. Seriously, he looks like a street person. Sullivan needs a good stylist before he goes on air. Seriously, he looks like a street person.

]]> By: Scott NYC http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224926 Scott NYC Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:34:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224926 HRC should have a "going out of Business" Sale. They do NOT represent the LGBT community - they represent themselves and their paychecks. HRC should have a “going out of Business” Sale. They do NOT represent the LGBT community – they represent themselves and their paychecks.

]]> By: Fitz http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224906 Fitz Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:11:57 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224906 I think we are making a mistake to look for a single charismatic leader for all of us. None of us can manage that. This guys certainly doesn't represent my views, nor does Joe Mayonaise. I think we are making a mistake to look for a single charismatic leader for all of us. None of us can manage that. This guys certainly doesn’t represent my views, nor does Joe Mayonaise.

]]> By: Cam http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224861 Cam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:01:46 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224861 Hi Mike, Ugh, I hate to be put in the position to defend the guy but a quick internet search brings up many things he has written on Same Sex Marriage, here is an exceprt from his letter to David Frum back in 1997 that appeared in SLATE magazine. I doesn't seem like he thinks gays don't deserve the right to marry outside of any benefits to straight people..... ....Here are a few of the advantages of same-sex marriage for the society as a whole that I have laboriously spelled out: lower rates of promiscuity among gay men, more stable homes for the children of gay parents, less trauma in families with gay offspring, lower rates of disease transmission, more independent and self-reliant members of society, etc., etc. These aren't appeals to sympathy; they're arguments that same-sex marriage would be good for all of us--and for conservative reasons to boot. Your only point that makes coherent sense is that marriage is about enforcing traditional gender roles, and that same-sex marriage would further erode these roles. I think you may have a point there. The image of two men or two women in a marriage could, I think, be a vivid symbol to many heterosexuals of what true equality in a marriage could be about, and it could help many heterosexual women further realize their dignity and equality in a relationship of mutual love and commitment. Hi Mike,

Ugh, I hate to be put in the position to defend the guy but a quick internet search brings up many things he has written on Same Sex Marriage, here is an exceprt from his letter to David Frum back in 1997 that appeared in SLATE magazine. I doesn’t seem like he thinks gays don’t deserve the right to marry outside of any benefits to straight people…..

….Here are a few of the advantages of same-sex marriage for the society as a whole that I have laboriously spelled out: lower rates of promiscuity among gay men, more stable homes for the children of gay parents, less trauma in families with gay offspring, lower rates of disease transmission, more independent and self-reliant members of society, etc., etc. These aren’t appeals to sympathy; they’re arguments that same-sex marriage would be good for all of us–and for conservative reasons to boot.
Your only point that makes coherent sense is that marriage is about enforcing traditional gender roles, and that same-sex marriage would further erode these roles. I think you may have a point there. The image of two men or two women in a marriage could, I think, be a vivid symbol to many heterosexuals of what true equality in a marriage could be about, and it could help many heterosexual women further realize their dignity and equality in a relationship of mutual love and commitment.

]]> By: Mike http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224855 Mike Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:32:01 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224855 Cam: I know...only because he thinks Civil Unions hurt heterosexuals...not because he thinks gays deserve the right to marry. He thinks to separate the two diminishes marriage for straight people. Of course, Andrew also thinks that perfectly acceptable for ALL marriages to be open relationships. He's also opposed to ENDA and The Matthew Shepard Act. And he also thinks gay men should experience the "freedom" of cacthing the bug. Cam: I know…only because he thinks Civil Unions hurt heterosexuals…not because he thinks gays deserve the right to marry. He thinks to separate the two diminishes marriage for straight people.

Of course, Andrew also thinks that perfectly acceptable for ALL marriages to be open relationships.

He’s also opposed to ENDA and The Matthew Shepard Act.

And he also thinks gay men should experience the “freedom” of cacthing the bug.

]]> By: Cam http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224849 Cam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:20:33 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224849 No. 3 · Mike said... And Andrew has done what exactly for equality?? ___________________ Well I think the guy is a bit of a pontificating blowhard, but he was writing books calling for gay marraige ages ago. No. 3 · Mike said…
And Andrew has done what exactly for equality??
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Well I think the guy is a bit of a pontificating blowhard, but he was writing books calling for gay marraige ages ago.

]]> By: Mike http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224848 Mike Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:18:34 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224848 And Andrew has done what exactly for equality?? And Andrew has done what exactly for equality??

]]> By: Cam http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224843 Cam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:12:04 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224843 Actually his point about the name actually hits an issue I had recently. I was discussing some gay issues with a very supportive straight woman friend. She said "Well you can't expect HRC to do that much, they have a lot they have to cover." I said what else besides the several gay issues was there. And she said "Hey, they aren't just about gay rights, thats why they're called the HUMAN rights campaign, She had no idea, she thought that they were a civil rights organization that happened to be very gay friendly. So his point about their name, again, seems very on target. Actually his point about the name actually hits an issue I had recently. I was discussing some gay issues with a very supportive straight woman friend. She said “Well you can’t expect HRC to do that much, they have a lot they have to cover.” I said what else besides the several gay issues was there. And she said “Hey, they aren’t just about gay rights, thats why they’re called the HUMAN rights campaign, She had no idea, she thought that they were a civil rights organization that happened to be very gay friendly. So his point about their name, again, seems very on target.

]]> By: Brian http://www.queerty.com/is-hrc-so-out-of-touch-that-joe-solmonese-must-resign-20091013/#comment-224827 Brian Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:29:07 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70847#comment-224827 Yea Andrew! Well said. Yea Andrew! Well said.

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