It wasn’t so much what was said about the guys with cornrows. Excuse me for overstated it somewhat. It was more looks of disbelief and statements about how it was inappropriate to have “that” hairstyle on the ice. They were neat and stylish IMO.

I think we might be wandering off topic. Sorry.

I did have a skating friend of mine tell me how she overheard two racist bitches in fur coats refer to Surya Bonaly as a “monkey” at Skate America back in the 90s. Cunts.

these two skaters are now on my radar. Hopefully we’ll see more skaters of color in the future, and less ‘conservative’ industry.

Funny, before Johnny Weir, I never gave a shit about figure skating. The industry mucky mucks don’t seem to realize just how many people out there are just like me.

I’d love a link to those skaters. I’ve just never seen any black male figure skaters before. Cornrows? I’m so intrigued. ;-)

And how ’bout that latest episode of Be Good Johnny Weir? I love how it ended with him in an orgasmic moment with his massage machine, exclaiming, “Oh, Daddy …”

Yeah. He’s just sooooo closeted. lol

I’d say I’m boycotting Smuckers, but their preserves are so cheap, over-sweetened and artificial tasting, I wouldn’t by them in the first place. I hope Scott Hamilton didn’t have anything to do with this; I’ve always liked him.

… Suppose he has a boyfriend who is camera shy? Or suppose he does not have much of a social life at all due to having to spend all his time practicing? Or suppose he has a boyfriend who is in the military and making it public would trigger a DADT discharge?

There are a lot of reasons to keep one’s private life private and those include respecting the wishes of another person.

To play devil’s advocate, if it were up to me and me alone, I’d dump Michael Weiss and replace him with Johnny – the both have the same number of national titles, although Weiss has two world bronzes to Johnny’s one. But Johnny is the more charismatic skater. Weiss is a clunky musclebound robot on ice, but his image is relentlessly hetero. The skating folk loves it when he parades his wife and kids out for the audiences.

IIRC, there were a couple of non-titled skaters with the old Champions on Ice, but they were novelty acts and not serious skaters. There were two humpy Russian acrobat skaters and Swiss skater Lucinda Ruh.

As Mr. Sexy Rexy clearly stated we are still waiting for your scholarly insight into who is less qualifed than our 6th place finisher? Times up, pencils down.

‘Star on Ice’ is privately own. You can support them or not. But based on Johnnys 6th place showing I think they made the right call. This sillyness about underscoring is so dumb. Ryan Bradley was underscored at Nationals and based on this same argument he should have taken third and Johnny boy would not have even been in the Olympics. Oh, I guess that is a fact people want to forget.

Or the fact that Johnny boy has been putting down Our Olympic Champion for years. Not one person can defend how Johnny boy has been taking shots at Evan for years. Not a very class act in such a subjective sport. And not a class act for a family show. As the saying goes you are accountable for your actions. Trash talk plays well in basketball but not in ice skating. (i.e. Plushanko)

So here is the real question. Do you really think that ‘Stars on Ice’ would not have asked Johnny to be in their show if he was one of the current Olympic medalist or was the defending champion? And those who are in the inter-workings of ‘Stars on Ice’ what proof do you have that Johnny was never asked to be in the show when he did have the resume? Please share.

So those of you great defenders of our 6th place skater you can always put up your own money for Johnny’s own ice show. Talk is cheap. If you think Johnny is being being undervalued establish a new show for him. Get some sponcers and put up the money. You might as well include all the other 6th place skaters. It should be a great show.

For those of you who want to boycot that is America. I would rather boycot those who supported Prop 8 or DADT. Not some 6th place skater who wasn’t included to be in some ice show.

Ah, America where you can have freedom of speech and opinion. Unless you are an Ice Skating fan.

I agree 100%. No matter what, they weren’t gonna give him a medal. He offends them because he is unapologetically queer (and I don’t just mean gay).

It just seems like Weir hedged his “coming out” bet on the wrong side, but there’s always tomorrow.

As for Weir fans, they should make themselves heard by writing to the SOI website and perhaps sitting out this event. Nothing speaks more eloquently that a silent cash register.

Yes, it would be lovely if every gay celebrity comes out, but why on earth would we give homophobic assholes a free pass just because the target of their scorn isn’t 100% out?

Johnny’s caught in a bind here. It’s the skating promoters who are not abiding by their rules. Johnny played it their way. One thing, I think Johnny needs to politely kiss the Russians goodbye and move back into the daylight. I think that coach may have had an unhealthy influence on him in the regard we are discussing here. I think he needs to give her a big kiss and move on.

Out or not, he could have done the elegant routine he turned in at the Olympics and thrown in a gravity-defying QUINT to boot, and he still would not have medaled.

Imho, if Weir were on-the-record-out, it would change the dynamics of his non-invite to SOI.

I don’t think Hamilton would have the ball to omit Weir if he were fully out. Ironically, Weir’s full-outness would likely cause SOI to include him, fearing the larger media backlash.

If you’re coy about being out, then you provide a much more shaky platform to rail against those who do, indeed, practice prejudice.

Parents of children with talent, and the kids themselves, should draw a lesson from this before committing themselves to the expense and sacrifice figure skating takes. Seriously, they should ask the recruiters hanging around local skating rinks, “Can you guarantee, after going through all this and getting up there that my kid will be treated fairly? Won’t be judged arbitrarily and dismissed summarily because of a perception that has nothing to do with my kid’s talent?” No prospective coach could make that guarantee. With the sacrifices involved, the coaches should just be flipped off since they ALL demand that skaters stay in the closet. Let them do figure skating with only 100 per cent REAL straight people. Fuck ‘em.

Cheese and crackers, is there anyone who has seen him skate, or be interviewed, who would even remotely think he was heterosexual? He is a walking (or to be fair, gliding) flamer, and good for him.

Still, it is 2010. As some have already pointed out, if a high school lesbian in Bumblefug, Mississippi, can take a stand concerning her prom date, why can’t Weir just put this to rest?

In fact, I think given the grossly subjective nature of judging, figure skating should be dropped from Olympic competition until the anti-gay bias can be dealt with. Nobody discriminated against gay people at the original Olympics, and they shouldn’t at the modern version.

As for Stars On Ice, given their bias, their protestations to the contrary, we should give it and its sponsors a pass. This story is already in the mainstream media. For this particular entertainment, they want gay money for sure, but if they don’t want to employ us, fuck ‘em.

The thing that gets me is that his effeminacy brings out the hatred in those gays who think everyone should butch up. So not only does a guy like Johnny Weir face the usual homophobia – he faces hatred from other gays, especially since he refuses to talk about his sexuality.

Based on Johnny boys position than all 6th place finishers should be on ‘Stars on Ice’. The Olympics just ended and how many of you out there can even remember who came in 5th place in all four skating events? Try naming them without looking it up. Or better yet should Laura Lepisto be on ‘Stars on Ice’? What country did she skate for? Well she was placed sixth in ladies. Should Dube and Davisson be on the show? Or Pechalat and Bourzat? Those were the 6 place finisher in pairs and dance. Now try remembering who came in 4th and 5th. Should all of them be in the show too? All 36 skaters counting both pairs and ice dancers.

It is called ‘Stars on Ice’ not who came in 6th place. Johnny has a following but most of those who recieved a medal do too and at least those ones won an Olympic medal.

Johnny is refusing to go to the worlds this year. Wouldn’t he have a better case if he won at worlds and than he could make a case for himself. He came in 6th place!

Johnny loves attention and playing the outcast. That is a role he has played for years. He is an American skater who embrases the Russian culture. He has been taking pot shots at Evan for years. This is an American tour and he isn’t smart enough to think that there might be a backlash? And he came in 6th since people keep on forgetting this.

This is Evan’s time. To him the glory. Johnny has a T.V. show. He has been on all the talk shows. Not bad for someone who came in 6th place. But Johnny even with your following you have not proven lately based on your placement at worlds or nationals that you belong. If you were the defending national champion or had won a medal at last years worlds you could try to make a case for yourself.

But there are only so many spots on the tour and a sixth place finisher with only a bronze two years ago doesn’t sound like your current resume qualifies you, gay or not. Win something currently and than you can talk. Instead you are not even going to worlds. It is Evan’s time not yours. Try to be as gracious as the American ladies. Grace and class are what skating should be about which sounds more like Evan than you.