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	<title>Comments on: Is Martina Navratilova Actually Bad For Gay Rights?</title>
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		<title>By: AxelDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AxelDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She actually wants to serve and volley.

No. 46 · CINDY

Seems little PR of late concerning this lawsuit. Maybe Martina is actually mediating and realizing one cannot just use someone for eight years to serve them and toss them to the wayside.</description>
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<p>No. 46 · CINDY</p>
<p>Seems little PR of late concerning this lawsuit. Maybe Martina is actually mediating and realizing one cannot just use someone for eight years to serve them and toss them to the wayside.</p>
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		<title>By: AxelDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AxelDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should this opportunistic ex use Martina&#039;s celebrity and openness to steal her hard-earned money?

She lost a lot of endorsements in the 1970s and 1980s when she ran up the most impressive win streak in tennis history because she was out and proud. That didn&#039;t stop her girlfriend from trying to take her money back then, either.

I&#039;ve never felt entitled to my boyfriends&#039; paychecks, especially money earned before I met them, so why should Martina have to put up with that crap in the name of gay equality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should this opportunistic ex use Martina&#8217;s celebrity and openness to steal her hard-earned money?</p>
<p>She lost a lot of endorsements in the 1970s and 1980s when she ran up the most impressive win streak in tennis history because she was out and proud. That didn&#8217;t stop her girlfriend from trying to take her money back then, either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never felt entitled to my boyfriends&#8217; paychecks, especially money earned before I met them, so why should Martina have to put up with that crap in the name of gay equality?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toni looks to be in her mid to late 50&#039;s.  She was in a relationship with Martina for 7 or 8 years.  That means she entered into this relationship when she was in her late 40&#039;s at best.  So why in the world would she be entitled to half of Martina&#039;s money which had mostly been earned LONG before the two ever met?

This woman is a gold-digger plain and simple.  I wonder how she treated her husband?  What was the situation there?  This is a person of questionable character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toni looks to be in her mid to late 50&#8242;s.  She was in a relationship with Martina for 7 or 8 years.  That means she entered into this relationship when she was in her late 40&#8242;s at best.  So why in the world would she be entitled to half of Martina&#8217;s money which had mostly been earned LONG before the two ever met?</p>
<p>This woman is a gold-digger plain and simple.  I wonder how she treated her husband?  What was the situation there?  This is a person of questionable character.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Stutzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Stutzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto...or are the lawyers going back and forth playing the game.  Cheaper to settle sooner than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto&#8230;or are the lawyers going back and forth playing the game.  Cheaper to settle sooner than later.</p>
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		<title>By: CINDY</title>
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		<dc:creator>CINDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems little PR of late concerning this lawsuit. Maybe Martina is actually mediating and realizing one cannot just use someone for eight years to serve them and toss them to the wayside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems little PR of late concerning this lawsuit. Maybe Martina is actually mediating and realizing one cannot just use someone for eight years to serve them and toss them to the wayside.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Stutzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Stutzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the facts of the case?  Just because someone  enters into a relationship or marriage shouldn&#039;t give someone automatic dibs to their money when they breakup or divorce. Length of the relationship, the spouse&#039;s contribution to the relationship, did the spouse give up a career, etc...  Yes they deserve compensation but to say they get 1/2 is ridiculous.  A wife who stays at home &amp; raises the kids, advances the other&#039;s career, etc.. should be entitled to more compensation than a companion type relationship.  If Martina made her wealth off of her own doings without significant contribution from the ex, the ex should get a some reasonable settlement but that is all.  I am a lesbian and I don&#039;t care if the parties are gay or straight...fair is fair.  Martina..you need to learn the word &#039;prenuptial contract&#039;.  Also I think it is different when you are an established adult who enters into a relationship in your later years.  My partner and I have wills that leave our stuff to one another.  However if we ever broke up, our respective 401K&#039;s &amp; pensions are just that--our own.  No dividing, etc...  We both work and feel strongly that we earned and built it and are entitled to it solely if we ever break up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the facts of the case?  Just because someone  enters into a relationship or marriage shouldn&#8217;t give someone automatic dibs to their money when they breakup or divorce. Length of the relationship, the spouse&#8217;s contribution to the relationship, did the spouse give up a career, etc&#8230;  Yes they deserve compensation but to say they get 1/2 is ridiculous.  A wife who stays at home &amp; raises the kids, advances the other&#8217;s career, etc.. should be entitled to more compensation than a companion type relationship.  If Martina made her wealth off of her own doings without significant contribution from the ex, the ex should get a some reasonable settlement but that is all.  I am a lesbian and I don&#8217;t care if the parties are gay or straight&#8230;fair is fair.  Martina..you need to learn the word &#8216;prenuptial contract&#8217;.  Also I think it is different when you are an established adult who enters into a relationship in your later years.  My partner and I have wills that leave our stuff to one another.  However if we ever broke up, our respective 401K&#8217;s &amp; pensions are just that&#8211;our own.  No dividing, etc&#8230;  We both work and feel strongly that we earned and built it and are entitled to it solely if we ever break up.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK... So? 
This bit of outrage seems to be a stretch even by Queerty&#039;s elastic standards.

It wasn&#039;t a marriage, according to these stories. It was some kind of semi-official quasi-legal partnership agreement. And -- yes, there&#039;s plenty of evidence from over the years that Navratilova isn&#039;t kind to ex-girlfriends, but why should we now expect her to treat the dissolved partnership as if it had been a marriage when they were denied the benefits of marriage while they were together? 

Couples often get nasty toward each other in a divorce. I see no reason to expect that gay couples will be different when put into that in-extremis situations. But this does not appear to be a divorce. It&#039;s the dissolution of a complex partnership.

It wasn&#039;t a civil marriage while they were together, so what&#039;s wrong with her lawyers arguing that it shouldn&#039;t be treated as a civil marriage now that they&#039;re splitting up?

You seem  to believe that courts should treat gay couples as though they were in some sort of common-law marriage (which is recognized in some states). I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s the case in the states where this couple lives. But even it it is, it&#039;s a very strange legal angle to take in an attempt to get toward marriage equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230; So?<br />
This bit of outrage seems to be a stretch even by Queerty&#8217;s elastic standards.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t a marriage, according to these stories. It was some kind of semi-official quasi-legal partnership agreement. And &#8212; yes, there&#8217;s plenty of evidence from over the years that Navratilova isn&#8217;t kind to ex-girlfriends, but why should we now expect her to treat the dissolved partnership as if it had been a marriage when they were denied the benefits of marriage while they were together? </p>
<p>Couples often get nasty toward each other in a divorce. I see no reason to expect that gay couples will be different when put into that in-extremis situations. But this does not appear to be a divorce. It&#8217;s the dissolution of a complex partnership.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t a civil marriage while they were together, so what&#8217;s wrong with her lawyers arguing that it shouldn&#8217;t be treated as a civil marriage now that they&#8217;re splitting up?</p>
<p>You seem  to believe that courts should treat gay couples as though they were in some sort of common-law marriage (which is recognized in some states). I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the case in the states where this couple lives. But even it it is, it&#8217;s a very strange legal angle to take in an attempt to get toward marriage equality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaisne Blue Sexton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaisne Blue Sexton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, please. Navratilova is acting like she&#039;s always acted upon splitting from someone. Like a total bitch. She&#039;s acting exactly like straight male ass who cuts his wife and kids off completely and acts like they never meant anything to him. 

For those with reading comprehension difficulties: Layton is not asking for half of everything, just half of what they aquired during their relationship. That&#039;s standard and normal in cases of divorce, and also, in some jurisdictions when straight partners have co-habitated for a long period of time, but haven&#039;t married. 

And that includes when the woman stayed home, and the man went to work. Because men used to argue that the woman contributed nothing by working at home (making a home, raising the kids, etc). 

Remember Amanda Bearse? She pulled the same sort of sh*t on behalf of her new partner when they fought the woman&#039;s previous partner on child custody issues. Claimed the non-biological mother was not a &#039;real&#039; mother, and shouldn&#039;t have any rights to the kid, including visitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, please. Navratilova is acting like she&#8217;s always acted upon splitting from someone. Like a total bitch. She&#8217;s acting exactly like straight male ass who cuts his wife and kids off completely and acts like they never meant anything to him. </p>
<p>For those with reading comprehension difficulties: Layton is not asking for half of everything, just half of what they aquired during their relationship. That&#8217;s standard and normal in cases of divorce, and also, in some jurisdictions when straight partners have co-habitated for a long period of time, but haven&#8217;t married. </p>
<p>And that includes when the woman stayed home, and the man went to work. Because men used to argue that the woman contributed nothing by working at home (making a home, raising the kids, etc). </p>
<p>Remember Amanda Bearse? She pulled the same sort of sh*t on behalf of her new partner when they fought the woman&#8217;s previous partner on child custody issues. Claimed the non-biological mother was not a &#8216;real&#8217; mother, and shouldn&#8217;t have any rights to the kid, including visitation.</p>
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		<title>By: TANK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TANK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn&#039;t know brimley had a sister.  DIABEETUS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t know brimley had a sister.  DIABEETUS!</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Ging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Ging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t know the whole story. If Toni Layton-Lambert (her husband is Jeffrey nor Martina) is an emblezzer, she doesn&#039;t deserve a cent. 

And Martina has the greatest body I&#039;ve ever seen. *wink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know the whole story. If Toni Layton-Lambert (her husband is Jeffrey nor Martina) is an emblezzer, she doesn&#8217;t deserve a cent. </p>
<p>And Martina has the greatest body I&#8217;ve ever seen. *wink</p>
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		<title>By: Robert, NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert, NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188173&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;M Shane&lt;/a&gt;: 


Aside from opposite gender couples, in what way do you mean that &quot;gay marriages will never be the same if you try to make them look that way&quot;?  Which way are you talking about exactly?  Even if they were legally married, it wouldn&#039;t change anything, 50% of straight marriages end in divorce as a result of financial problems and the rest well, adultery for the most part. Most divorces are messy when it comes to money.  Martina is no different than anyone else. So you would have to paint opposite sex domestically partnered couples (those who chose not to marry) when you make singular statements like that about gay couples, unmarried or not. What does it matter if the couples are same sex or opposite sex? Or do you have an underlying religious reason perhaps?  Your statement is flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-188173" rel="nofollow">M Shane</a>: </p>
<p>Aside from opposite gender couples, in what way do you mean that &#8220;gay marriages will never be the same if you try to make them look that way&#8221;?  Which way are you talking about exactly?  Even if they were legally married, it wouldn&#8217;t change anything, 50% of straight marriages end in divorce as a result of financial problems and the rest well, adultery for the most part. Most divorces are messy when it comes to money.  Martina is no different than anyone else. So you would have to paint opposite sex domestically partnered couples (those who chose not to marry) when you make singular statements like that about gay couples, unmarried or not. What does it matter if the couples are same sex or opposite sex? Or do you have an underlying religious reason perhaps?  Your statement is flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188845&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thursdaylover&lt;/a&gt;: 

Martina looks just as unnattractive as Toni. If you had to choose who looks better if would easily be a flip of the coin. I have always admired Martina for her tennis game, but I always thought in the looks department that Martina was batting .000.

My question is what did Judy Nelson see in Martina beyond star tennis player?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-188845" rel="nofollow">thursdaylover</a>: </p>
<p>Martina looks just as unnattractive as Toni. If you had to choose who looks better if would easily be a flip of the coin. I have always admired Martina for her tennis game, but I always thought in the looks department that Martina was batting .000.</p>
<p>My question is what did Judy Nelson see in Martina beyond star tennis player?</p>
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		<title>By: TANK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TANK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but martina&#039;s a dude, so this is bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but martina&#8217;s a dude, so this is bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: thursdaylover</title>
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		<dc:creator>thursdaylover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a pic of Toni?  WTF? What did Martina see exactly? All I see is a Gertrude Stein-lookalike who can probably benchpress my uncle&#039;s trailer. Sheesh. 

No wonder Martina&#039;s guards had to remove that witch with force...She&#039;s a freakin&#039; bulldog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a pic of Toni?  WTF? What did Martina see exactly? All I see is a Gertrude Stein-lookalike who can probably benchpress my uncle&#8217;s trailer. Sheesh. </p>
<p>No wonder Martina&#8217;s guards had to remove that witch with force&#8230;She&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; bulldog!</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with this is that the Ex is claiming that she and Navratalova agreed to a 50/50 split of everything.  I find it impossible to believe that somebody like Navratalova...who has been burned by exes before would EVER agree to ANYTHING like that.  This is where the Ex loses credibility with me.  If she just sued for some support etc... I could see possibly getting something, although I still have issues with that since she is an adult fully able to work and they have no children to keep her from working.  However, trying to make me believe that Martina would ever promise her half of everything just makes me think she is another in a string of goldiggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with this is that the Ex is claiming that she and Navratalova agreed to a 50/50 split of everything.  I find it impossible to believe that somebody like Navratalova&#8230;who has been burned by exes before would EVER agree to ANYTHING like that.  This is where the Ex loses credibility with me.  If she just sued for some support etc&#8230; I could see possibly getting something, although I still have issues with that since she is an adult fully able to work and they have no children to keep her from working.  However, trying to make me believe that Martina would ever promise her half of everything just makes me think she is another in a string of goldiggers.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristopherJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristopherJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188199&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bluprntguy&lt;/a&gt;: Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-188199" rel="nofollow">bluprntguy</a>: Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: alan brickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan brickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everybody would do the same thing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everybody would do the same thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, let&#039;s not hold ourselves up to a higher standard than straights.  We gays come in all shapes and sizes.  Some of us are good people, some of us are bad people.  Some of us are saints, some of us are sinners.  Let&#039;s not fall into this trap of being afraid that some of us might not hold up to some impossible standard of purity.

If a person judges all gays by one or two, it means that person was never gay-friendly in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, let&#8217;s not hold ourselves up to a higher standard than straights.  We gays come in all shapes and sizes.  Some of us are good people, some of us are bad people.  Some of us are saints, some of us are sinners.  Let&#8217;s not fall into this trap of being afraid that some of us might not hold up to some impossible standard of purity.</p>
<p>If a person judges all gays by one or two, it means that person was never gay-friendly in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should have had a prenuptial agreement or something.</description>
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		<title>By: Vanhattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanhattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Navratilova:

Look, I think there are several completely different arguments here and conflated none of them makes sense.  Seperately they do. 

1. Under current federal law and DOMA, these two are not married nor do they exist as partners.  

2. Under state law, in Florida, these two are not married nor do they exist as partners. 

3. Under state law in New Hampshire, where they reportedly had a civil union, they are now considered married.

4. Regardless of 1-3, Navatilova is morally obligated to share some of her wealth with her ex partner/wife/etc.

5. Navratilova is NOT a GAY or LESBIAN HERO, LEADER, or ROLE MODEL.  She is simply a bitter rich bitch who is trying to screw her ex out of the money she deserves. 

6. Navratilova will ignore all above except #3. 

7. Why do we give a flying fuck what she does anyways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Navratilova:</p>
<p>Look, I think there are several completely different arguments here and conflated none of them makes sense.  Seperately they do. </p>
<p>1. Under current federal law and DOMA, these two are not married nor do they exist as partners.  </p>
<p>2. Under state law, in Florida, these two are not married nor do they exist as partners. </p>
<p>3. Under state law in New Hampshire, where they reportedly had a civil union, they are now considered married.</p>
<p>4. Regardless of 1-3, Navatilova is morally obligated to share some of her wealth with her ex partner/wife/etc.</p>
<p>5. Navratilova is NOT a GAY or LESBIAN HERO, LEADER, or ROLE MODEL.  She is simply a bitter rich bitch who is trying to screw her ex out of the money she deserves. </p>
<p>6. Navratilova will ignore all above except #3. </p>
<p>7. Why do we give a flying fuck what she does anyways?</p>
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		<title>By: Dabq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dabq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martina has never been lucky in love, and, always seems to get gold diggers, but her partner has a right to something, although for the life of me I don&#039;t see either of these two women as owning or wearing the &#039;jewels&#039; that are part of the proceeedings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martina has never been lucky in love, and, always seems to get gold diggers, but her partner has a right to something, although for the life of me I don&#8217;t see either of these two women as owning or wearing the &#8216;jewels&#8217; that are part of the proceeedings.</p>
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		<title>By: LoveMoby</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoveMoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188181&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Topher&lt;/a&gt;: 

Topher, I completely agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-188181" rel="nofollow">Topher</a>: </p>
<p>Topher, I completely agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Distingué Traces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Distingué Traces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t harmful to gay rights at all. 

It underlines the &quot;separate but (not) equal&quot; status of gay marriage.

Of course, it&#039;s irrelevant whether the ex-wives are gold-diggers or not. The fact that a man&#039;s ex-wife may be a gold-digger does nothing to alter her legal rights to his property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t harmful to gay rights at all. </p>
<p>It underlines the &#8220;separate but (not) equal&#8221; status of gay marriage.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s irrelevant whether the ex-wives are gold-diggers or not. The fact that a man&#8217;s ex-wife may be a gold-digger does nothing to alter her legal rights to his property.</p>
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		<title>By: SD</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188459</link>
		<dc:creator>SD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have overlooked just how many times so-called wives of Navratilova&#039;s have hit her up for cash. She has been through this with a string of goldiggers.

How many divorces can you think of that aren&#039;t a little messy? The &quot;wronged&quot; - as in the one who didn&#039;t bring big cash into the relationship, always has a string of allegations and is &quot;shocked&quot; that it came &quot;out of the blue&quot;...  

I think she took a good hard look and said I hvae been screwed over enough times and this time I&#039;m not taking it.
And I think she has a better perspective on their relationship than you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have overlooked just how many times so-called wives of Navratilova&#8217;s have hit her up for cash. She has been through this with a string of goldiggers.</p>
<p>How many divorces can you think of that aren&#8217;t a little messy? The &#8220;wronged&#8221; &#8211; as in the one who didn&#8217;t bring big cash into the relationship, always has a string of allegations and is &#8220;shocked&#8221; that it came &#8220;out of the blue&#8221;&#8230;  </p>
<p>I think she took a good hard look and said I hvae been screwed over enough times and this time I&#8217;m not taking it.<br />
And I think she has a better perspective on their relationship than you do!</p>
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		<title>By: swellster</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188458</link>
		<dc:creator>swellster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t deny us the benefits of legal marriage and hold us to the same legal standards to our detriment at the same time.  She isn&#039;t &quot;married&quot; under the law and should not be held to the same standards.  She has different rights and thus, different obligations.  I don&#039;t blame her one bit.  Until we get the benefits of civil marriage we should not have the legal obligations of civil marriage.

Act within the law Martina ... that is all you are obligated to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t deny us the benefits of legal marriage and hold us to the same legal standards to our detriment at the same time.  She isn&#8217;t &#8220;married&#8221; under the law and should not be held to the same standards.  She has different rights and thus, different obligations.  I don&#8217;t blame her one bit.  Until we get the benefits of civil marriage we should not have the legal obligations of civil marriage.</p>
<p>Act within the law Martina &#8230; that is all you are obligated to do.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188448</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually this case could be used in the fight FOR gay marriage. It&#039;s one of the cases that can be presented to people who say &quot;oh, you gays don&#039;t need actual legal marriages. Just live together or enter into one of these lesser civil union things, what&#039;s the difference?&quot;. When it comes to establishing and sorting out rights and responsibilities legal marriage is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually this case could be used in the fight FOR gay marriage. It&#8217;s one of the cases that can be presented to people who say &#8220;oh, you gays don&#8217;t need actual legal marriages. Just live together or enter into one of these lesser civil union things, what&#8217;s the difference?&#8221;. When it comes to establishing and sorting out rights and responsibilities legal marriage is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Movement Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188445</link>
		<dc:creator>Movement Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that they were never legally married, so no divorce. Similar arguments have been made by other queer people who are fighting for marriage. I guarantee if there was a legal marriage, there would have been a prenup.

So this is another Queerty, smear the queer post. Is there a &quot;Smear the Queer&quot; blog? If not, you could consider a subsite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that they were never legally married, so no divorce. Similar arguments have been made by other queer people who are fighting for marriage. I guarantee if there was a legal marriage, there would have been a prenup.</p>
<p>So this is another Queerty, smear the queer post. Is there a &#8220;Smear the Queer&#8221; blog? If not, you could consider a subsite?</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martina was always super competitive and focused on winning. She should have had some sort of pre-nups. Can you get a pre-nup when you aren&#039;t going to be legally married, though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martina was always super competitive and focused on winning. She should have had some sort of pre-nups. Can you get a pre-nup when you aren&#8217;t going to be legally married, though?</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188423</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people getting divorced are always such assholes when they are the one with the money.  doesn&#039;t matter if it is gay or straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people getting divorced are always such assholes when they are the one with the money.  doesn&#8217;t matter if it is gay or straight.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188409</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was in Martina&#039;s situation I&#039;d do the same.  I hate it when interlopers come along and suddenly want to claim millions simply because they&#039;ve known so-and-so for a few years and shared a bed with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was in Martina&#8217;s situation I&#8217;d do the same.  I hate it when interlopers come along and suddenly want to claim millions simply because they&#8217;ve known so-and-so for a few years and shared a bed with them.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188407</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martina is simply exploiting the current legal inqualities regarding gay marriage.  If I were her, I&#039;d do the same.

She made a lot of millions through hard work and excellence.  She&#039;s entitled to hang on to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martina is simply exploiting the current legal inqualities regarding gay marriage.  If I were her, I&#8217;d do the same.</p>
<p>She made a lot of millions through hard work and excellence.  She&#8217;s entitled to hang on to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Pyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188402</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Pyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget Martina even threw Judy&#039;s kids under the bus to try and keep from paying her in their &quot;divorce&quot;. i lost respect for her way back in the day over those shenanigans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget Martina even threw Judy&#8217;s kids under the bus to try and keep from paying her in their &#8220;divorce&#8221;. i lost respect for her way back in the day over those shenanigans</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Pyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188401</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Pyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget Martina even threw Judy&#039;s kids under the bus to try and keep from paying her in their &quot;divorce&quot;. i lost respect for her way back in the day over those shananigans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget Martina even threw Judy&#8217;s kids under the bus to try and keep from paying her in their &#8220;divorce&#8221;. i lost respect for her way back in the day over those shananigans</p>
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		<title>By: Rikard</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188376</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would ALL to anything we had to in court to keep our own money. Like most gold diggers always want to maintain the luxury lifestyle they learned to live with a rich and famous partner. When one goes to live at court, one serves at the pleasure of the Queen. Martina has yet to be replaced as Queen of Center Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would ALL to anything we had to in court to keep our own money. Like most gold diggers always want to maintain the luxury lifestyle they learned to live with a rich and famous partner. When one goes to live at court, one serves at the pleasure of the Queen. Martina has yet to be replaced as Queen of Center Court.</p>
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		<title>By: cyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida doesn&#039;t care about same sex relationships except to deny them any legal standing.  If they had a pre nup, even that is likely NOT to be recognized in Florida.  So actually this split up will demonstrate a consequence of denial of legal relationship recognition in Florida.  The women are two unrelated adults.    Sad but true.  It&#039;s just the law.  Any questions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida doesn&#8217;t care about same sex relationships except to deny them any legal standing.  If they had a pre nup, even that is likely NOT to be recognized in Florida.  So actually this split up will demonstrate a consequence of denial of legal relationship recognition in Florida.  The women are two unrelated adults.    Sad but true.  It&#8217;s just the law.  Any questions?</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re not married, they only had a commitment ceremony. Prior to 2003, the only places in the world gays could marry were Belgium and The Netherlands. And this couple did not make it official when other jurisdictions came on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not married, they only had a commitment ceremony. Prior to 2003, the only places in the world gays could marry were Belgium and The Netherlands. And this couple did not make it official when other jurisdictions came on board.</p>
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		<title>By: jarvisbearcub</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188289</link>
		<dc:creator>jarvisbearcub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was a marriage, did she have the ceremony when it became legal in California? Or Iowa? If she didn&#039;t do that, maybe it wasn&#039;t a lifelong marriage. Maybe she, like numerous other rich celebs, was protecting her money from the start.

She can&#039;t hurt gay marriage by arguing she wasn&#039;t in one if she WASN&#039;T!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was a marriage, did she have the ceremony when it became legal in California? Or Iowa? If she didn&#8217;t do that, maybe it wasn&#8217;t a lifelong marriage. Maybe she, like numerous other rich celebs, was protecting her money from the start.</p>
<p>She can&#8217;t hurt gay marriage by arguing she wasn&#8217;t in one if she WASN&#8217;T!</p>
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		<title>By: Fitz</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188241</link>
		<dc:creator>Fitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188238&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jaroslaw&lt;/a&gt;: Cuz when you are in new love you think with your heart. (or dick, or clit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-188238" rel="nofollow">Jaroslaw</a>: Cuz when you are in new love you think with your heart. (or dick, or clit).</p>
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		<title>By: Jaroslaw</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/is-martina-navratilova-actually-bad-for-gay-rights-20090630/#comment-188238</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaroslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t she just have a prenuptial agreement?  Did I spell that right?  Someone here will let me know I&#039;m sure!

While Martina might be a tad on the selfish and greedy side, and, as noted divorces are often messy nasty things, this hardly makes her Gay Rights public enemy #1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t she just have a prenuptial agreement?  Did I spell that right?  Someone here will let me know I&#8217;m sure!</p>
<p>While Martina might be a tad on the selfish and greedy side, and, as noted divorces are often messy nasty things, this hardly makes her Gay Rights public enemy #1.</p>
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		<title>By: Fitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-- come on.  It&#039;s a divorce.  People don&#039;t play nice during a divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8211; come on.  It&#8217;s a divorce.  People don&#8217;t play nice during a divorce.</p>
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