http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jmGu9o4fDE

Warren is not exactly a crusader, which included colorful characters like Peter the Hermit and Walter the Penniless.
The “Rick Warren” types of that time had enough sense to stay
home. You didn’t see the Pope putting his ass on the line.

Peter the Hermit was an effective rabble rouser, but (it seems) a rather unkempt individual who subsisted primarily on fish and wine. His followers were a rather rowdy and violent bunch of thugs. Rick Warren would have had nothing to do with them – the last thing a Rick Warren type needs is a congregation of people who would rob his collection plate at the first opportunity.

http://www.historyguide.org/an.....re25b.html
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11775b.htm

http://www.talk2action.org/sto.....113914/328

Rick Warren’s Dissertation Advisor Leads Network Promoting Uganda Anti-Gay Bill

http://www.talk2action.org/sto.....134435/084

Your name says it all!

No further comment required.

Patriotic Blonde
aka Ms. LaReina

We hear much lip service being paid to freedom of speech even if the utterings are sinful.

It would seem, however, that Prick Warren is exercising his right not to speak.

No less harmful than speaking evil, he is still committing the sin of omission and it can do as much harm, if not more, as freedom of speech can.

Let him look that up in his Funk & Wagnalls (Bible).

I was going to say something very similar to Lynn, but you beat me to the punch. HeeHee

But what I really wonder about is why President Obama has said jack shit about it.

That’s because Prick Warren is a stupid, sadistic schmuck!!!

Thank you for the two articles. Interesting…and scary, indeed.

And Yes. Where is HRC? They too, are eerily silent on the matter.

But then again, as we have learned from CA and ME, anything they have to say is of very little, if any, value anyway. A bunch of stuffed shirts filled with hot air.

All they want, is for us to keep sending them money to finance their black tie dinners so they can continue to schmooze with the politicians in Wash. DC.

As useless as tits on a bull. :(

But to be fair, where is HRC? Are they not international or is it my miscomprenhension?

This is interesting..

http://www.awid.org/eng/Issues.....ious-Right

http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/ind.....oblem.html

1) The only documented source of the homohating and violence against our communities in Uganda and much of neo-colonial post-colonial world) are abrahamic cults, mainly christers and islamists, who brought bigotry with them and imposed it, slavery, their cults and the theft of resources and land with bayonets.

Religion is the enemy.

Homohating was part of the Europeans general tactic of using superstition, racism and misogyny to divide and rule.

2) Warrens support for Obama, expressed when he gave Obama a podium to bellow out how much he opposed same sex marriage was organized by Obama’s director of christer, read bigot, outreach, Josh Dubois, who also organized Obama’s use of Donnie McClurkin to get an ‘in’ with bigots. Warren was rewarded by being given his own podium, an audience of billions at the Inaugural.

3) We can demand it, but it’s unlikely that either Obama or Hillary Clinton will condemn Warren or their other far rightist christian supporters for supporting ‘ethnic cleansing’ against our communities. It’s even more unlikely that the either Obama or Hillary Clinton will charter aircraft and announce that any people fleeing murderous nations and states like Iraq, Iran, Nigeria, Mississippi, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Italy or some of the former Soviet territories will be offered asylum and social services for as long as needed.

“Globally last yr 146,000 Christians were put to death because of their faith. No one, except Christians, said anything.”

http://twitter.com/RickWarren/status/6226009441

I, perhaps, uncharitably, interpreted it as RW being peeved at what he perceives as bias against Christians, when Uganda killing gays is met with outrage but other governments’ murder of Christians supposedly isn’t.

Nevermind that (as I was able to find with a 30-second Google) Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the US State Department all spoke in condemnation of the persecution of Christians in the last year.

http://americaspeaksink.com/20.....m-outrage/

http://americaspeaksink.com/20.....-marriage/

http://americaspeaksink.com/20.....-marriage/

Thank you for sharing with us. You do indeed, sound reasonable :)

We need more of that. Reasonableness, that is.

Thank you for visiting our site and please, feel welcome to share your thoughts, feelings and comments with us any time the spirit moves you.

You see, your worst fear did come to fruition in post no. 15. LOL

I go with John From England on this issue.

What are YOU doing? Or YOUR Dad? After all, Africa is YOUR country, not ours.

It’s disingenuous of you to say you deplore the homophobia of African countries and then sloff-it-off on American gays as if it is their problem to deal with.

Insofar as your giving Rick Warren a pass on this disgusting issue, a so-called man of God, should be profoundly disturbed by the proposed anti-gay legislation of the Ugandan President…and should be willing to say so, even if there is nothing he can personally do about it.

Prick Warren’s silence (and that of Mr. Obama) speaks volumes about his own homophobia. You do recall his trip to Uganda to meet with President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni for the purposes of schmoozing (read kissing ass), do you not? Warren knew about this impending Ugandan legislation right from the very beginning and said nothing against it.

His only reason for visiting the President was for the purpose of extending his empire and bringing it to Africa to sucker-in more souls who are too weak to think for themselves and need someone to lead them around by the nose, like the hooked, religious fundamentalist junkies right here in the USA.

John is absolutely correct. This is a human rights issue. On an individual level, there is little anyone can do to prevent this madman (Museveni)from carrying out his horrendous crime against humanity.

The UN and the US government should be the ones acting on this.

The fact that we are not hearing from them, also speaks volumes.

I agree with quite a bit of your post but use the word “it sucks” for the bill that Uganda is proposing is patronising, insane and insulting, plus deeply disturbing.

But what are YOU doing? Or YOUR Dad?

How sad that people the same culture can’t get support from others of the same and have to go with a begging bowl to a completely different culture?

American Gays barely get any support in their onw country lol, not sure they can try and help gay from Uganda.

This is a human right issue. The UN and the US govt should be the ones reacting to this..

Uganda,like many African countries, have a lot and i mean a lot of issues with homosexuality. Not only are they deeply religious but their cultures tend to frown on it. I admit that. I lived there for a while. They simply refuse to understand anything outside what they consider normal. Fine, call them annoyingly bullheaded. But that is their stand as a country…it sucks.

However I m not sure what you expect or want Rick Warren to do. Queerty, i swear, you post topics like a petulant two year old. You intentionally cornered a pastor you know is not pro gay marriage and are attacking him. Why? Is he a great or even influential political person? Is he somone can actually make any difference on the Uganda bill? Do you assume you are calling out his hypocrisy? What is your problem?

Instead of whining amongst yourselves..what are you doing about it? Who have you contacted? How are you helping ur gay brothers and sisters in Uganda?

Christ!

In fact, call them today. Then call them tomorrow. Then call them the day after that. Then the day after that… get the idea?!?!?

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@1 Terrwill:

I will not pay a dime in taxes until:

A. All gay and lesbian citizens are 100% equal under the law.
B. No tax dollars go to foreign aid for countries that oppress gays.”

And how do you plan to do that?

http://ugandaemb.org/embassy.html

Uganda Ambassador email
pkamunanwire@ugandaembassyus.org

He’s made his position on gays adamantly clear when he recently visited Uganda.

Terrwill, the thread is still too new. Give the PC poo-slingers some time. They’ll show up, I assure you.

They always do. ;-P

Hope this all made sense. Tired right now so it might be a bit fragmented. ;-)

Btw did you all read the gay penguin story? That made my day. =-D

And it seems strange Rick Warren has been very vocal in denouncing countries with prochoice laws on the books. Yet he can not bring himself to “interfere” with the Ugandan scumbags legislation. He and his type are much more dangerous than the raving lunatics like Rev. Fred (my grandson Jacob is Gay) Phelps. Warren,Fuckabee (who pardoned the accused killer of the four cops in Washington) and the “new breed” of conserative nutbags are learning to make their poison more easier to take, assuming the smiling “nice guy” persona. They’d be smiling the whole way as the Gays are marched into the chambers………..

Of course he supports it.

And I hate to break it to you, but I would guess that a MAJORITY of people would support this.

People hate us. They want to see us dead. ‘People of God’ tend to be at the top of that list.

As a gay man who flies under the radar, I get to hear all of the things that heterosexuals say about us when they think there are no gay people in the room.

It is terrifying. To hear middle-aged professionals at my office talking about ‘moving us all to an island somewhere, then bombing the island’ and vile stuff like that.

Heterosexuals, by and large, are not now, have never been and will never be our ‘friends.’ There are exceptions, of course, but if you think that this is any different than what the ‘religious right’ will ultimately try to do to Gay citizens in the U.S., you had better wake up and smell the Christian heterosexuals that are SURELY coming to get us.

btw doesnt he look like a dark and surlier version of falwell?
looks like master warren back in the day was dipping into more than just his cotton accounts , huh?

I will not pay a dime in taxes until:

A. All gay and lesbian citizens are 100% equal under the law.
B. No tax dollars go to foreign aid for countries that oppress gays.

As above the US averages 783 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR to these sub human savages. Along with the death provision for suspected HIV persons. If you read the bill they punish ANY form of Gay sex by life in prison (anal/oral/even rubbing) If you simply know of a Gay person and do not report it within 24 hours you are sentenced to 3 years in prison. How the fuck is this able to happen?? Our tax dollars are funding these savages and despicable ways. And yet the “family” of rightwing-nutbag zealot lunatics senators and representives, along with Warren support this filth………………….