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Is This The On-Board Drug Dealer To Atlantis’ Biggest-Ever Gay Cruise?

 

It wouldn’t be the world’s largest-ever gay cruise without some on-board drug dealers. How else are the party bois gonna enjoy fun in the sun without their 8-balls? That’s where Steven Barry Krumholz, a 51-year-old man from West Hollywood, came in, customs officials say. Krumholz was arrested on suspicion of selling drugs to passengers aboard the Allure Of The Seas, which Atlantis leased from Royal Carribean for its 5,400-passenger sail. Cuffed and taken away from the ship while it docked in St. Thomas, Krumholz’s cabin was allegedly stocked with 142 ecstasy pills, three grams of meth, some Special K, and $51k in cash. The best part of this story is that while authorities were searching his cabin, two fellow passengers stopped by. To score.

Some sleuth-y readers have already found a “Steven Krumholz” on Facebook who lives in Los Angeles and works for the website SBKTravel.com, which makes me think perhaps this isn’t the first time Mr. Krumholz may have used travel excursions as a business opportunities?

 

As the website Cruise Law News noted last week, when it comes to gay cruises one of the biggest concerns isn’t stocking enough SPF and condoms, but having enough medical professionals on board to handle overdosing. Remember Spencer Yu?

But let’s not pretend Mr. Krumholz — whose crimes are only alleged at this point, everyone — might be the only drug dealer on board this Atlantis cruise. With 5,400 passengers, a good chunk of whom are there to PnP, 142 ecstasy pills and a few grams of meth aren’t going to satisfy everyone.

(Just remember: Deborah Cox doesn’t have to pay for her share.)

Happy 20th anniversary Atlantis?

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By:           Ryan Tedder
On:           Feb 13, 2011
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  • 79 Comments
    • TheInsider
      TheInsider

      Gay parties and drugs. Always a bad rep for us. Will we ever learn?

      Feb 13, 2011 at 1:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom in Lazybrook
      Tom in Lazybrook

      I like to periodically go on Atlantis Cruises and I don’t do drugs at all. And I despise PnP. I find that I can easily ignore the vast majority of the drug/PnP culture and still have a good time. Most of the people on the boat are not there to do drugs in my humble opinion. Why? Its expensive to go on Atlantis cruises. Most people I know that have a meth problem (oops I mean use meth) seem to have extreme difficulties keeping their employment.

      However, something like this was inevitable in my opinion. Perhaps Atlantis could do a little better job policing the obvious characters before more news like this (or worse) mars future cruises. Or those that have jobs (and therefore money to blow 2500 bucks plus airfare on a cruise) get turned off and start doing something else. There’s a fine line between ‘letting ones hair down’ and ‘letting things get out of control’. Lets hope Atlantis can find the right balance. I don’t think they need to be the DEA, but some higher level of investigation might be warrented. Because it’d be a shame if those of us there to have a legal good time get crowded out by bad actors.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 2:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Seth
      Seth

      OMG – I canot imagine being trapped in one place with that many tired, old, bitchy queens…yikes

      Feb 13, 2011 at 2:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Nathan
      Nathan

      Let him deal drugs; it’s a shame to see such a successful gay entrepreneur busted. Things weren’t out of control, nobody got hurt until some busybody ruined everyone else’s good time and a man’s very lucrative livelihood.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 2:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ALEX
      ALEX

      A buddy of mine just returned from the cruise today. He said he and a friend left the ship in St. Thomas but returned in one hour to find three men in their room. The men claimed they were ‘security’ wanting to make sure ‘everything worked’ in the room. No one comes to make sure things are working unless called (and sometimes not even then!), and THREE ‘security’ men? I think some illegal searching was going on (you cannot just enter a room on a whim – that is why keys are issued) and Atlantis needs to know what is happening when the ship gets into port.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 2:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Robbie K
      Robbie K

      Does not surprise me at all

      Feb 13, 2011 at 3:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Harbo
      Harbo

      I took a gay cruise three years ago and couldn’t wait to get off the ship. There was so much sex (everyplace) and drugs you sould smell them in the air. Most of the crowd (guys and women) were great, but there is always a few so limp-wristed, loud and obnoxious they pretty much ruined for everyone else. They were hitting on everything that moved, including the waiters and the crew. No wonder gays have a bad reputation.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 4:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • slippy
      slippy

      The husband and I ( together since ….1968 !!) are NOT what any one would call “party” types or even “boys” for that matter. We’ve had amazing times on Atlantis Cruses -The Mediterranean , Scandinavia , South America and The Far East. These cruises provide a safe , nurturing space to be a couple and not feel out of place. We’re good for about 15 minutes at the White Partys.We watch all the festivities pool side from the top deck rails and meet other gay brothers from around the world who we’ve formed lasting friendships with. An Atlantis Cruise is just like the gay world-all types shapes and sizes and all ages. O and btw -we do not drink or ‘bitch” -we snuggle after dinner on the deck and have great adventures on the shore excursions and can hold hands and feel accepted. Thank you Atlantis for offering these alternatives to being the “odd men out” on “regular “cruises and excursions.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 4:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hephaestion
      hephaestion

      Taking drugs is for losers. What a waste.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 4:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Nathan
      Nathan

      @Harbo: Blaming “limp-wristed” types on the gay community’s bad reputation? Sounds a lot like GOProud; how’s the internalized homophobia working out for you?

      Feb 13, 2011 at 4:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Harbo
      Harbo

      Nathan ::: I don’t have an ounce of homophobia. I just try to act like a refined individual, not a atereotype. Some people look for things to bitch about.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 4:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon
      Shannon

      Businessman?????? WTF….now funny…if that DRUG DEALER CRIMINAL where are a Black or latin man…he would be called all sorts of foul ass names! Your double standard is too much…this why people are tired of dealing with your BS>>

      Feb 13, 2011 at 5:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • reed
      reed

      finding a gay man who doesn’t do drugs is like looking for a brain cell in sarah palin’s skull.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 7:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      Expected. Gay cruises are just like gay bars. Sex and drugs everywhere. I don’t blame the gay community though. Drugs and other illicit activities are everywhere. Just so happened this was a gay cruise.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 7:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • prohomo
      prohomo

      @reed: Speak for yourself.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 7:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hf2hvit
      hf2hvit

      Another media blowup. Drug busts happen all the time on all cruises. It’s like “GAY MURDER!!!” You never see “STRAIGHT MURDER!!!”

      Feb 13, 2011 at 7:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ron Haddad
      Ron Haddad

      @reed:

      What kind of crowd do you hang out with where “everyone” does drugs? Sounds like a desperate gaggle of gays to me!

      Feb 13, 2011 at 8:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mehtastico
      Mehtastico

      I suspect that this will mark the beginning of the end for gay cruises. Not all of us share middle America’s attitude (problem) regarding drugs. While some of these guys may be addicts, or abuse drugs, the large majority who use are not addicts, and never will be.

      Since these cruises draw the circuit crowd in large numbers you can bet that once news of this starts to spread they’ll choose to vacation elsewhere. As they should. The private cruise line has no interest in making an issue of passengers personal drug habits. Yet, here they are, making an issue of it.

      You can sure as hell bet that Atlantis will be more careful with their contracts in the future when it comes to stipulating rights of the passengers to privacy.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 8:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mehtastico
      Mehtastico

      @Ron Haddad:

      Those of us who live in cities tend to have a wider tolerance/acceptance for experimentation and occasional recreational usage.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 8:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Zach
      Zach

      @reed:

      “finding a gay man who doesn’t do drugs is like looking for a brain cell in sarah palin’s skull.”

      Inaccurate generalizations are bad, m’kay? You wouldn’t (I hope) say any of the following:

      ‘finding a black man who isn’t in prison is like looking for a brain cell in sarah palin’s skull.’

      ‘finding a Jew who isn’t rich is like looking for a brain cell in sarah palin’s skull.’

      ‘finding a Muslim who isn’t a terrorist is like looking for a brain cell in sarah palin’s skull.’

      So don’t characterize all gay men as meth addicts. Some of us have an ounce of common sense not to waste every evening wasted.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 8:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mehtastico
      Mehtastico

      @Zach:

      Sing it Sturm!

      Feb 13, 2011 at 8:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Abdid
      Abdid

      Nathan, I can assure you that as a recovering addict that the group that operates in the gay community is not just making money off drugs. They make money and enjoy deliberately destroying lives by committing crimes against anyone they think they can bully or worse. If it were just about dealing drugs, I’d leave folks to their own devices. The group operating out of Saint Louis (at least) is especially horrible. Your dealer probably isn’t cool, will do any crime he can get away with (even if he doesn’t need the money), and our fellow community is left to fend for themselves because no one is speaking up or having law enforcement curb the worst abusers.

      This is now commonplace. And is more widespread than I hope anyone would like to believe. Completely unacceptable. Period.

      The gay community doesn’t have better or cool drug dealers anymore. If we ever did. It’s about finding a victim (a gay community member) and seeing how much damage can be caused including violent threats to protect drug gangs, theft, bullying,actual violence, extortion, blackmail, con games, fraud etc. It’s about some folks supporting a habit but some of the worst out there are gay dealers. Absolutely no less violent, dangerous, or criminal than any other gang.

      It’s not about drugs anymore. Seeing what you can get no matter what the consequence is to the victim isn’t ok. Especially when the abusers aren’t hurting for money. I don’t want my fellow community members to be violated. Sorry. Bashing isn’t ok. From anyone.

      Lucrative business? Lucrative, yes. Business, no. Time to expect that the legal system actually agressively work to make sure we’re not victimized without anyone acting or caring, overdue.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 9:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Zach
      Zach

      @Mehtastico:

      There’s a vast chasm between what Ron Haddad stated and what you’re implying. Knowing and tolerating drug users is not the same thing as only knowing drug users. If your sole company consists of people on the circuit party, then it’s time to meet some new people.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 9:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      I just got back from that cruise. It was great. The ship is huge, and the fact that they pull off a mammoth operation like that with relatively little incident is amazing. Heard rumors about the drug busts, but someone on the crew said some sort of drug bust, or arrest for other reasons, happens all the time on straight cruises. Just because it’s gay cruise this makes news. The crowd was really fun and friendly. Evidently this guy was a big fish that was on the cops’ radar for a long time. Since I don’t do drugs I only heard rumors, but the passengers were well behaved and really friendly, especially since there were 5500 of them. An article like this implies everyone on the cruise was doing drugs. Please.

      This won’t hurt future gay cruises. They make too much money for the line, and if you go to cruisesbruise.com you can see all the crazy things that happen on cruises all the time. Murders, rapes, drug busts, sexual abuse, everything. Gay cruises are tame next to alcohol fueled straight cruises where people get violent. No one gets into fights on a gay cruise. Love is in the air.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 9:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mehtastico
      Mehtastico

      @Zach:

      I don’t go to circuit parties actually. I just happen to live in a city which values experimentation, and has acceptance of recreational drug use. (San Francisco)

      That is a part of our culture, and it is entirely valid.

      @Abdid:

      Every single thing you just said is a result of the laws that create a black market. Take a look at what happened when Holland stopped prosecuting heroin and started providing shoot up clinics in Amsterdam. Heroin users could safely obtain and use their drugs in these clinics, and when ready could also get free rehab when they were ready. The result was a stunning double digit percentage point drop in crime.

      Please read this article from The Economist: http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/01/harm_reduction

      The more you argue an absolutist view point that “drugs are illegal, and therefore anybody doing them deserves to go to jail” the more YOU are the problem, not the addict who is ill.

      Here is an example from London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7101085.stm

      Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shawn
      Shawn

      This is bull as royal Caribbean and owners of Atlantis are well aware of the large amount of drug use on these cruises. They just make way too much money as much as 5 times normal amount. If they wanted to stop it they should search every single person boarding. While this would take a long time it would also stop people from going. The parties go from 11 pm till well past 8 am and people so not stay up that long on alcohol. Most are safe and responsible but there are a few who “go overboard” so to speak. Just as the over use of alcohol on regular cruises are constantly causing fights etc. The Atlantis staff pretends to warn everyone but practically encourage it

      What is so ignorant about these comments are assuming everyone who does drugs do EVERYTHING. Not all do meth. Most don’t Most are just on X which never causes a problem. Rather b around that than a stupid sloppy drunk. Legal or not. Someone threw up in elevator. I can almost guaranty that is was a sloppy drunk. I would not touch meth as I have seen the damage from it. Just as my mom would pop “diet pills” (speed) from a prescription and then worry about pot. It’s ignorance at it’s best. Those who drink then judge everyone who does any drug is a fool

      Feb 13, 2011 at 10:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Christopher
      Christopher

      My partner and I were on this cruise as well, and this sounds WAY worse than it was. Please. People were not flinging themselves off into the elevator shafts. Yes, there were definitely people doing drugs. No, not ONCE was it an issue where we felt threatened by out of control people. We don’t do GHB, or K, or any of the other crap that people were taking. We had a great time, met lots of really friendly people too. EVERYONE was really nice! My favorite sight was during one of the tea dances when a man who was a double amputee was wheeled down onto the main stage to dance with his friends. They passed the wheel chair back up and they held him. He danced with all of us out there. To think this was some deep dark mark on the gay community is a joke. 5400 people came onto that boat, and they were each and every one an individual.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 11:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Oh lawd noes
      Oh lawd noes

      I was on this cruise, I came all the way from Provo UT. I was FORCED to do lots of drugs by thousands of gay men who then all had sex with me. I took more loads than a laundromat drier. It was just the most awfulest thing ever. I can’t wait to get back to Provo and tell everybody about how innocent and pure I am and how everyone else was a terrible person for making me have sex and do the drugs.

      booddeeehoohoooooo

      Feb 13, 2011 at 11:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scott ny'er
      scott ny'er

      @Jason: ok that site cruisebruise.com… makes me NEVER want to take a cruise. Sheesh. Look at its precaution page.

      Feb 13, 2011 at 11:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Evji108
      Evji108

      @Harbo:
      Sorry Harbo you are out of line. Limp-wristed = effeminate. And
      obviously you are not comfortable with effeminate gay men, which I am sorry to say indicates internalized homophobia. We certainly don’t want the limp-wristed fems ruining our reputations as refined gay individuals.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 12:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Disappointed-In-Atlantis
      Disappointed-In-Atlantis

      I just returned from the Allure cruise, and it was hands down the worse Atlantis cruise I’ve been on. It was my 7th and probably my last. I have never, and will never, use any type of drug, and my partner and I usually only attend about 20-30 minutes of each party, we’re there for the vacation, the ports of call, and the excursions.

      On this cruise, we skipped all but 2 of the parties because of the rude, obnoxious, and pushy people, and the RIDICULOUS amount of drugs. There was at least 1 “alpha, alpha, alpha” call each night, which is the ship’s version of “911″. Numerous people were taken to the medical facilities, arrested, disembarked, or incarcerated.

      It speaks VERY poorly of both the GLBT community and Atlantis. I applaud the officers for arresting Mr. Krumholz, and hope they enforce much stronger drug detection policies in the future. I’ll gladly spend extra time in line boarding if it means a more drug-free environment.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 12:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DEA
      DEA

      I’ve been on several Atlantis cruises, and know Rich Campbell through entertainers who have performed on the cruises. Rich Campbell and his entourage of young boys are usually high themselves when at the dance parties. Rich knows about the rampant drug use on the the cruises and participates himself. He probably has his drug dealers that accompany him onto the ships so that they aren’t checked like regular passengers.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 1:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Frank
      Frank

      Nonsense. I was on the cruise. It was a riot. The number of people who had medical emergencies or got in trouble was miniscule compared to the sheer volume of people there. I found everyone to be in a great mood. There were 5500 gay people there and 2000 crew. It was wonderful, if all a bit overwhelming, since the ship is so big. There were about 10 medical emergencies – 10. That’s what percentage of 5500? They have that amount on a straight cruise. I was on a straight cruise with my parents and 5 people died, for God’s sake. Every time something like this happens to gay people, the PC police try to demonize the whole thing. The self-hatred in our community continues to astonish me.
      I spoke to the Captain, who was thrilled with it, and he’s seen everything.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 3:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Morley Safer
      Morley Safer

      Sad thing is that this Steven Krumholz is 51 years old and his cheesy travel agent website would tell that he doesnt sell much “travel” I remember this old guy from my own party days and event production days. Its pretty TRAGIC, actually.

      He was one of those guys you really didn’t want at your event.

      Rich Cambell should know that a lot of his former customers will never go back because these gay cruises are nothing but drugs and dick..and yes he and his little harem all know whats up every day when they go to work.

      Rich, Many of us are OVER THE sketchie freaks who refuse to give up the hardcore partying

      Feb 14, 2011 at 4:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      @Morley Safer: Eh anyone under 35 is ok with the gay cruises being drugs and sex. Admittedly, when I go to a gay bar, I am no longer looking to score, just have a few cocktails and meet some pretty ladies and maybe hang with some guy friends…but if I do score that’s cool too. I’ll be 30 next month, too old for that shit, really.
      Maybe its different for gay men? The one gay cruise I went on when I was 27 was men and women, and all were looking for the same thing: drugs and sex. That won’t change.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 7:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Katie Couric
      Katie Couric

      Under Maritime law, the captain of the ship can give law enforcement permission to enter any cabin so it may be inspected and searched. You do not have a Constitutional right to privacy as you would in your home. Ship security, and CBP and DEA do not need a search warrant, only the Captain’s permission.

      Regarding the medical emergencies, you need to understand that any cruise ship’s medical services are limited. Allure was not equipped to handle the number of overdoses that occurred, especially the first night. That’s why 5 guys were put off the ship in Nassau.

      As long as Atlantis turns a blind eye to the drug use on it’s cruises, then this problem is going to exist.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 8:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul
      Paul

      Dear Queerty children, the son is what a father has, SUN is what that bright thing in the sky is sweetie. Damn spell check!

      Feb 14, 2011 at 9:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ted
      Ted

      Hope you had fun. “Drugs are bad!” Mr. Mackie.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 11:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Marc Rich
      Marc Rich

      It seems obvious that if you get 5000 people together that there are going to be people who put both prescribed and illegal drugs into their systems. It is by the very nature of our culture that when people both gay and straight alike are getting together to party that we are going to put things into our systems. I wonder what the bar tab was at the end of the cruise, for example. My client base includes gay and straight young and old and I khow that when they go on a cruise they want to have a good time. Atlantis does an excellent job with their business and they certainly can not control the actions of 5000 people. Before accussing so readily, keep in mind that we all have people in our lives who’s decisions we don’t always agree with.
      Marc Rich
      Owner
      OrientationsTravel.com

      Feb 14, 2011 at 2:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tony x
      tony x

      Dear Marc Rich
      Owner
      OrientationsTravel.com

      K and Crystal Meth Amphetamines should not be part of ANY culture – and your glib response is hurtful to the community.

      Meth has destroyed too many people – dealers are scum and the users are committing slow suicide. The affluent elitistist on this cruise know what is going on all around them. They are a dying breed.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 2:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Danny
      Danny

      This was my first Atlantis criuse on the Allure last week. I went with my bro and some friends. I had the best time ever despite the rumors. The guys were hot and everyone including the staff were very friendly. Yes we like to party to a certain extent, and unfortionately there are some who get out of control and give us all a bad reputation. Atlantis did a great job with all the parties, and entertainment was amazing. It is very dissapointing that some people cannot behave enough to just have a good time. Thanks boys for keeping me entertained all week. See ya next year.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 2:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DEA
      DEA

      @Marc Rich: Are you an authorized seller of Atlantis Cruises through your company? If Atlantis takes a hit from this, then I’m sure you would take a hit if this happens to be a big part of your company.

      Everyone understands that Rich can’t control the actions of 5000 people, but I think that what is being suggested is that he either encourages this for his own profit, or he turns a blind eye and does nothing to curtail the problem.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 2:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mel
      Mel

      Not only do Rich and Atlantis turn a blind eye to the rampant drug use onboard, they encourage it. I have been on several cruises and seen Rich on the dancefloor, high as a kite, with a bevy of boys, encouraging people to “have a good time.” The fact that Steven Krumholz is a travel agent who makes money selling cruises through SBK Travel and then again through the drugs sold onboard is sick. And to think that Atlantis condones it is even sicker.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 4:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Marc Rich
      Marc Rich

      @DEA: Turns out that 90 percent of my clients are hetrosexual, go figure. It is apparent from reading through the posts that these folks have a lot of detractors. I do have a client who loves these cruies. He and his partner are older established child raising succesful people very much like my partner and I. I am confident that they do not go on these cruises for drugs. They like myself live in rural Washington and like being able to attend events where they can let their hair down and be with our people. There are other options out there for people who don’t want to be in this type of environment. My buddy Carlos Melia has just announced a South American cruise this fall on Costa. Variety Cruises out of Athens has multiple gay itineraries a year. I personally am very fond of Oceania, my partner likes Disney. Using the 10% equation we find that we always happen to have shipmates that are similar in lifestyle to us. Karma is Karma and if these folks are up to no good, it will come back to bite them.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 6:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Frank
      Frank

      No. 42 ยท Mel

      what you say is not only debatable, it is libelous and you could be subject to legal action if you are tracked down. be careful what you post online.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 7:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom in Lazybrook
      Tom in Lazybrook

      @Marc Rich: While you can argue about the merits of alcohol, I certainly don’t think anyone can argue that daily meth use is not much more dangerous and harmful than daily alcohol use.

      Lets stop defending the indefensible. Meth is bad news. Period.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 8:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • uffda
      uffda

      if I were on a ship with 5400 shallow party faggots I’d need drugs too

      Feb 14, 2011 at 9:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DEA
      DEA

      @Frank: Rich? Oh sorry. Thought that was you for a sec.

      Mel has nothing to worry about.

      For one, you, I mean, Rich would have to prove that he didn’t know there were drugs being sold on the ship. Mel never said Rich was the one doing it, just that he turned a blind eye.

      Two, Rich would have to prove that he never took drugs on any of the Atlantis cruises since that is the only other thing Mel brings up. I find this hard for Rich to proclaim under oath.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 11:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Abdid
      Abdid

      @Marc Rich: Karma wishing and belief that karma evens the scores over time is nice and all. But if you’re arguing to let people get away with clearly damaging deliberate acts targeting your community, that’s not belief in restorative karma, it seems to be an argument that (again, like so many of those that haven’t been victimized) thes are really nice drug dealers and it was the victim’s fault.

      I don’t think that any more than 50 percent of the passengers are even drug users on Atlantis and a lower rate on other cruises. My brother goes at last on one a year.

      The amount of money reported to be seized likely was largely the property of someone else, but the money actually has been seized/forfeited. If left alone and I was as protected as Kumholtz appeared to be, $51,000 is a PITIFUL amount to have in his possession on day two or three if he’s the only candy store on the boat.

      Mr. Krumholz appears to be a drug dealer who is able to supply the big gay boat’s cool kids with drugs no matter what state or even OCEAN it was to depart from. He’s a drug dealer. If he sold 100 rooms and/ packages (which would be unheard of) for an Atlantis cruise, not enough money can be legally earned as it appears. Everyone practically would have to be aware of the drug dealingI would imagine the next cruise will have a new candy store whether Atlantis takes any action or not. I don’t think the staff sees this as a problem. Because no one ever has a problem with Tina.

      Feb 14, 2011 at 11:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TB
      TB

      I’ve been on 2 cruises. One was this very same cruise in ’05, the other last summer’s 2010 Med cruise. They were two very different experiences.

      The one 6 years ago was, without a doubt, a party boat. “A drug tug,” if you will. The ports were similar to this one (boring) and, really, the only reason to go was to party. However, this past summer’s med cruise was incredible and it was all about the ports including Venice, Athens, and Istanbul. It was so great, I’m booked on this summer’s Med cruise, as well.

      And the crowds for both were entirely different. First of all, the expense for a European cruise is about 3 times the price of this one, so there were very few 20-somethings on board since, frankly, they can’t afford the booking and airfare. Everyone was mid-30′s to 50′s and older. And so the events and the “feel” of the cruise was entirely different.

      I used to be a circuit boy and partied a lot back during the height of it all, ’97-’03, but now I’m just not interested in any of that. You grow up, find different interests, and simply remember the good times that it was. So isn’t this just a “rite of passage” for a lot of gay men? Can’t we just chalk it up to that? Yes, I understand all the legal implications of drug use and there are certainly casualties from it. But I’d imagine there are just as many from alcohol related incidents. The fact is: 99% of party boys grow up and out of it just fine, and they move onto other interests.

      And if they don’t? Well, maybe they’re not too happy. But you know what they say about bitter old queens. They were once bitter young queens.

      Feb 15, 2011 at 9:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shawn
      Shawn [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @Morley Safer:

      UM you say that like ALL drugs are the same. The ones on G are messes most of the time. The tweaked out ones on Meth are another story but the many who just take X are pleasant and have a good time and way more fun to be around than sloppy drunks. After seeing throw up in elevator i can assure you it was from your “LEGAL DRUG” alcohol. ask any security if you go again. they have far more security issues on straight cruises than gay. I did not like this ship but will not make me not want to do. Don’t be the “every drug is bad and causes problems” and then sit and drink up a storm. I saw such sloppy drunk people it was gross. Yes there were drug messes too…but most are just funny and sometimes sad they don’t know their limits..just like with alcohol…they keep thinking they are fine and just want one more drink…that is what happens to the others with CERTAIN things so how is it different taking out he legality which is stupid in my opinion.

      Feb 15, 2011 at 10:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shawn
      Shawn [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @Tom in Lazybrook: most people are NOT doing meth sorry to break it to you……X and K and G continue to be the most poplar…X being the least harmful and troublesome

      Feb 15, 2011 at 10:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul
      Paul [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Drugs are no different than alcohal. I don’t know anyone that was so drunk that they shit on the dance floor. Just saying.

      Feb 15, 2011 at 12:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brett
      Brett

      i don’t think it matters that people were dealing or using drugs on this particular cruise, because i’m sure it happens on most cruises, gay or straight. just like you go to a gay or straight club there is probably someone dealing or using drugs. i think the problem here is if the company who is putting on this cruise, atlantis, knows or helps facilitate the use of drugs on its cruises. i think a case has been made that it is possible. i’ve heard this for years that atlantis knowingly “brings” its own dealers onto the ships.

      Feb 15, 2011 at 2:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charlie
      Charlie

      @Nathan: I was thinking the same thing when I read that comment. Limp wrist equals… drug problem? If we’re going to stereotype isn’t it usually the Abercrombie types that face plant after too much better living through chemistry?

      Feb 15, 2011 at 6:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom in Lazybrook
      Tom in Lazybrook

      @Shawn: I wasn’t talking about X. X isn’t particularly healthy and I understand why it is illegal. Its somewhere between pot and cocaine on the harm scale IMHO. GHB is another story and is very bad news along with Meth.

      Feb 15, 2011 at 7:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jessie
      Jessie

      I just watched that Youtube vid from Atlantis and I threw up in my mouth a little. I thought the idea was for a promo video to make you want to to on the cruise, not flee from it in horror.

      This video is filled with the two types of gay that much of the world quite rightly despises. One, we have the obsessive gym bunnies. These are damaged men who doubt their own masculinity and who compensate by obsessing over their physiques. Ironically, it is that very narcissistic obsession that exposes them as weak and decidedly unmasculine. Throw in waxed chests, nipple rings, steroids, and age inappropriate attire and you have a radioactive mess.

      The second type is the walking freak show who concludes for some reason that he should don a woman’s dress and prance around like a clown for the amusement of others. I have no problem with a drag performer whose drag is part of his art. But to have ordinary passengers bring drag with them so they can swish around like a debased 1930s amateur minstrel act? Sick. The only dates these guys should be getting is with a therapist.

      O Somali pirates! Hear our prayer! Please take the Allure of the Seas and bring it to Somalia, never to be heard from again.

      Feb 16, 2011 at 3:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ted
      Ted

      Jessie: Your comment ROCKS ! LOFL

      Feb 16, 2011 at 8:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Obviously
      Obviously

      If Rich Campbell wanted less drugs on his cruises, he would hire off-duty police and their drug sniffing dogs to inspect the luggage and indeed passengers on queue to board.

      That’s what Sydney Police started to do at the entrance to the Harbour Party at the Botanical Gardens. I worked as a volunteer a few years back and picked up literally dozens of little zip-lock bags that were “ditched” in the bushes when the attendees saw that they would have to go past the sniffer-dogs.

      I won’t go on his cruises anymore.

      Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Master John
      Master John

      YUCK

      Feb 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Justin
      Justin

      I was on this cruise. There were definitely more drunks than tweakers, but most people didn’t fall into either of those categories. I also spoke with Captain Johnny toward the end of the cruise, and he said he was pleased with how the cruise had gone. Yes, there were a few problems, but every cruise has at least a few problems. My partner and I don’t do drugs, and we will certainly do another Atlantis trip at some point (although not the Allure, because that ship is just too big).

      Feb 16, 2011 at 5:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Enufothis
      Enufothis

      LOL Jessie. That Somalia line was mean (but funny).

      Feb 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mattgmd
      mattgmd

      The DEA guys and their dog were led by ship security to a cabin end of my hall upon return to U.S. They arrested the two guys in that room presumably for drugs also; hadn’t seen either guy but once or twice the whole cruise, don’t know how many sales they were making, who knows.

      Feb 17, 2011 at 2:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Master John
      Master John

      I like to get drunk and sit down and watch television, or fall asleep. These sissies just cant handle their liquor, what a mess. Just because you enjoy getting drunk doesnt mean you act a fool, some people are more mature then others.

      Feb 17, 2011 at 5:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jonathan
      Jonathan

      @uffda: LOL. You’d need many drugs. Maybe you’ve identified the reason for the drug use.
      A cruise like this is my idea of hell.

      Feb 17, 2011 at 5:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Str8Edge
      Str8Edge

      Let them have their fun. If you idiots and the rest of the idiots of the world knew anything then you would know that alcohol takes more lives than meth by a landslide, and I know far more ppl were drunk on that ship than high on meth. You gotta get your head out of your asses people.

      Feb 19, 2011 at 3:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ant11207
      ant11207

      I bet that drag queen was secretly hoping that ship would sink, with great loss of life, so “she” could be stealing the show as the only glamorous lady with the few survivors in a lifeboat like Talulah Bankhead.

      Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarkK
      MarkK

      Dang if I knew I could have gotten x and t on the gay cruise I would’ve gone a long time ago! Sounds hot

      Feb 20, 2011 at 2:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rogs
      rogs

      @Shannon1981:
      The week before 20 people -straight-were taken off the Allure. Drugs is nothing that only gay people do. And, what’s wrong with having lots of sex? Have it if you can! Just be safe. Ever heard of straight Swingers cruises? Not that I would go…

      Jessie#57
      If you dont like what’s going on on a gay cruise you should stay home. It’s not for you. What’s wrong with working out and looking the way you want? What is wrong with doing drag? For Gods sake, live a little. Quit complaining. We are your you!

      If you’re not gay, go on a straight cruise. We want our gay environment to ourselves.

      Feb 21, 2011 at 4:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rogs
      rogs

      @uffda:
      oops. We don’t want ya! Stay home.

      Feb 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Abdid
      Abdid [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @Mehtastico: what I was talking about happened to ME and my non drug abusing family. Really happened. By those connected to this guy. For giggles.

      Feb 22, 2011 at 7:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cruise Geek
      Cruise Geek

      I have been on many an Atlantis cruise and this one was such a dud. Attitude, attitude, attitude…. I have no problem with people having a good time… UNTIL they interfere with my ability to have a good time. When you can’t dance because there’s so many tweaked out people smacking you in the face, when you see people crapping on themselves on the dance floor, when you hear medical emergencies sometimes three times a day on the PA, when the Captain has to make an annoucement on the second day about drug use….. then on top of that Atlantis sends out an email this week saying that the medical emergencies were a “mistake”…… I have issue with hypocracy and lies. I know what I experienced and it wasn’t “fun.” RCCL isn’t going to say crap because they love the $$$ as much as Rich does. Last Atlantis cruise for me.

      Feb 22, 2011 at 11:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • FunMe
      FunMe

      While not condoning “bad” behavior (who decides what “bad”?), all you judgmental queens need to just relax. As several have noted, we come in ALL shapes and types. On a cruise ship, some people will do things illegal like do drugs. Not everyone, but they do.

      My only point, before anyone start saying “oh us gays this, and us gays that … no wonder we give straights a bad reputation about us gays.”

      Uh … not really.

      Check out what happens in STRAIGHTS cruises:

      http://www.cruiselawnews.com/articles/drugs/

      A gay cruise with 4,500 gay men, and only about 20 people having “bad” behavior. It’s time to stop helping the straight community over sensationalizing things that happen in straight cruises. Sure drugs are illegal. But don’t make a point that it’s only the gays who doing illegal things.

      Do you think straight people after a cruise are going around saying, “Gee whiz, look at those druggies that ruined it for us. Now gays will never accept us straights.”

      Mar 8, 2011 at 3:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • FunMe
      FunMe

      @Paul: LOL is all I can say. For now.

      Mar 8, 2011 at 5:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Atlantisneveragain
      Atlantisneveragain

      Just got back from my first (and last) Atlantis cruise to the Caribbean. Man, I was SHOCKED when someone told me day 2 that this cruise and the activities going on were “tame” compared to what they usually are! WTF. I am a 40 year old man who has been in a relationship for 8 years. We went on this cruise hoping that we would find some cool gay couples/people who we would want to be friends with after we docked in the end. Not so much. Lotsa Lotsa circuit party burnouts who never even left the ship. I have never seen so many older men prancing around trying to recapture their youth. It was ridiculous. Not all of it was bad. The staff onboard was spectacular (I felt bad for them in some ways because I am sure they had to clean up some nasty messes at certain places on the ship), as was the food and the ship itself. But about 90% of the people were really hard to take. Stereotypes abound and most had NOTHING on their mind except party party party. Witnessed a drugged out old man POOP himself by the elevator on the first night I was there (I was at first worried he was having an attack of some sort, then I realized he was just high as a kite). Deck 13 and the activity that I saw on the second night I was there was disgraceful. And THAT should have been monitored and stopped…not laughed about in catty banter by some of the hired entertainmnet on stage. If we as a group are EVER going to get past the negative stereotypes that seem to manifest our culture, then we need to STOP acting out those stereotypes. I will never go on an Atlantis cruise AGAIN. Ever Ever Ever!

      Apr 3, 2011 at 11:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeffree
      Jeffree

      @Atlantisneveragain: That’s why it’s important to research your travel plans *before* you leave. Ten minutes on the internet could have convinced you not to take that trip.

      (In case this needs to be said:) Which cruise-line do YOU work for? I can spot PR language from 100 Km…

      Apr 4, 2011 at 1:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • The Milkman
      The Milkman

      I’ve never been on a cruise, and am looking forward to the Atlantis cruise in March 2012. If people have difficulty with seeing gay guys twirling out on some drug or another, then they must never go to bars, or clubs, or parties… either on land or on sea. Or they must be Mormons. Perhaps next time those folks can plan a trip to a monastery, or maybe a vegan yoga and minfdulness retreat, or perhaps a trip to Topeka to visit family. All of those are fine choices, and likely won’t cause these delicate flowers to compromise their Christianity.

      Don’t like drugs? Don’t do ‘em. And as far as crapping himself by the elevator in front of God and everybody, don’t you think that guy was punished enough by the humiliation (and the dry cleaning bill)? Everybody’s so judgemental and all up in other people’s taco. Take care of your own business, and try to have a good time.

      Apr 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dennis
      Dennis

      Gee I wonder if Rich Campbell knew? hahhahahhahha what do you think???? paaalease!

      Nov 18, 2011 at 3:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Antonio
      Antonio

      I totally agree with the statement; Finding a gay man who does not do drugs is like looking for a brain cell in Sarah Palin’s or George Bush’s brain! I have taken over 10 Atlantis cruises since I was 22 and land packages. There are always drugs and there were always overdosing and some dying. I have taken over 60 or 70 Straight cruises and most of them upscale such as Windstar cruises and Holland America. I have never ever seen anyone doing drugs or fighting or murders or anyone dying, just once on Oceania an older man was having a heart attack. Of course, Rich Campbell and his staff know about this and he does it himself as he is jittery and cross eyed 24/7 himself and skinny as a skeleton. Of course there are so many bitchy people on there and nasty queens but NO: they are not all limp wristed, as matter of fact most bitchy queens are the muscle marry’s that go to the gym 24/365 till they get on that cruise so they can show off their six pack abs, plucked up eyebrows, stubbly waxed faked tanned bodies and their $300 dollar sunglasses and the silly ugly totally gay Christian crap swimwear in different colors, as matter of face they only pack swimwear cause they are all naked 24/7 or shirtless to show off, (I am a guy in my 30′s and in good shape) but I am considered old and out or range cause all attention is given to muscle boys and if you are not fit, an alcoholic and in the drug circle you are considered no sociable and there are loud obnoxious queens who drink and drink and past out during breakfast, people having sex everywhere. I feel bad for all those workers from 3rd world countries who get paid nothing to put up with all this ridiculous behavior which by the way you will never see on the trashiest of Australian Cheap trailer trash liner (that is the only place in the cruise history have old young 20 some get in a bar fight if you look at the cruise history incidents), however someone has died on every Atlantis cruise I have been on, and yes, I knew Spencer Yu and the Persian (Iranian) Young Doctor and I saw an English guy with bunch of his friends (Virgin Atlantis flight attendants) who overdosed on Drugs on the dance floor and many other crazy incidents. Plus I had neighbors on one of the cruise both attorney’s in San Diego who had 24/7 orgy room going on which was totally disturbing and also not just the Fem boys, including the leather boys, thin boys, muscle boys, fem boys, muscle guys on high heels, muscle guys pretending to be butch, all sorts of people acting like crazy fools which I have never seen on any of the straight cruises i have ever taken. Even on the youngest fleet of Costa which I have taken with young sexy Italian men and women after so much drinking there was laugher and fun and dancing and eating food. Gay guys on these cruises do not even enjoy the food, they parade have naked to the breakfast room, since they have been up all night and the dinner times specially if you are single is a disaster, since you have to join a click… Maybe if you are an older couple you can stay on the upper rail and watch all the crazy fools…. NO! Do not ever want to go on Atlantis cruises again. I have better places to spend my money on nice fun relaxing great vacations such as going on Sailboats, going to Mykonos (that is super gay and always fun and noone dying on drugs), Istanbul, Bodrum, Positano, Budapest, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina! Why give your hard earned money to totally over priced Atlantis and to the pocket of a total self Centered business owner such Rich Campbell who does not appreciate his loyal customers!

      Mar 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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