But I need to request this.

SOMEONE PROVE HER WRONG ABOUT RACISM IN THE GAY COMMUNITY. Please prove that we’re inclusive and loving towards each other!

Someone please prove it.

Because if the shoe fits WEAR IT. Anyone regardless of their race should not be bothered by this if it doesn’t affect you and you are not the ones she talking about.

AJD, (is that right, hon?)
–please don’t pretend to be so simple.
this is the main problem the gays are facing today: willful fakeness in the bald face of the revealed truth!
some of you gays are either *very bored* or you are straight jealous of Black people.
oh my gosh, “proper english” is almost as problematic these days as “gay marriage”, i guess.
jasmyne cinnick, whom i only discovered today
(i withhold judgement on her more outrageous pronouncements)
graciously leaves the capitalization of “white” to “white” people, all right?
(if it’s mostly “white” supremacists who embrace “White” as an identity, that ain’t my fault).
the capitalization of Black in Black media goes back to the 60s and predates “african american” by 20 years.
Black is my african-american heritage, which goes way beyond color or continent.
i’m sorry, you don’t get to tell african americans what Black means, or how to use it.
please don’t start about “afro-american”.
“afro-american” is to Black what “homosexual” is to Gay.
it’s a real word compound, but its clinical tone lacks the warmth and loaded cultural resonance of “Black”.
any child knows this!
yes, “Black” is loaded, but outside of the “white” world, for african-americans within our own communities, the Black identity has little to do with color per se – and everything to do with Soul and Our shared american cultural history & struggle.

like mariah carey said:
you can try/but you can’t take that away from me

and act like you know.
the world is watching.
stay out of trouble
& have a nice “xmas” (sue me, miss crabtreee, you didactic b*tch)

And no, “black” is not an ethnicity; it’s a skin color. African-American is an ethnicity.

Spelling “black” with a capital “B” might be nice and PC, but it’s still not proper English, no matter how many magazines do it.

this is so depressing.
from ebony magazine to church bulletins to the amsterdam news, Black people capitalize “Black”.
be respectful of Our style choice and please don’t try to make it all about “white” people.
We can name Ourselves and you don’t have to agree, but when you try to turn it into an insult against “white” people, you are perpetuating the worst selfishness and myopia that the world is starting to realize is too present in Our gay communities.
please be consistent.
if gays want to have Our difference respected, we must cut out the knee-jerk negativity about conservative christians and Blacks.
lead by example and quit telling other people how to live their lives.
cut out the name-calling and the censorship.
you don’t have to be a christian to follow christ’s example:
do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
two wrongs don’t make a right, and you can’t fight hate with hate.
get over yourselves, quit acting ghetto and show a more positive face to the world.
cut out the entitled, emotional, prideful hysteria.
i am gay/bi and mixed Black, “white” and american indian.
i was raised in a swedish-american middle class family by respectful, educated episcopalians.
i am proud to be Black and i have no “white trash” issues.
i have lived in Black communities and i have been racially profiled in the castro.
i have been judged and rejected by “white” gays because of my color.
i know that the picture you guys paint of christians and Blacks is one-sided, hostile and curdled by ignorance and resentment.
the world is watching!
angry, destructive, r*cist gays, get over yourselves and quit being fake.
you all are going to be very embarrassed someday about the attitudes you are currently expressing.

Even if those black people are gay?

It’s still improper to capitalize “black” or “white.” “African-American” and “Caucasian” should be capitalized, however.

“My own 60 year old father who raised me to believe we are all equal and gay people are born gay was has said that if the gay community is this racist he will not continue to champion their cause. And frankly i’m starting to feel the same way.”

You describe “the gay community” as a big, monolithic block, as if it’s all racist, on the basis of your being accosted at a No On 8 rally. You further say you and your dad may no longer champion the gay-rights cause because *some* white gay people accosted you.

Speaking of that incident, you say it’s reality, but when did I ever say it wasn’t?

Furthermore, when did I ever say I’m “soo sure most people are racist” or even imply such a thing? And I never said that you had a problem with white people deep down, but it’s obvious from your statement that you and your 60-year-old dad jumped to the conclusion that “the gay community” wasn’t worth your time because a few racist assholes accosted you at a rally.

And by the way, however “dated” my views may seem, I’m in my mid-20s. Furthermore, I was raised by a Native American stepfather, and I think he would disagree with your statement that race isn’t that much of an issue in our generation, considering what a lot of people younger than either of us have said to him.

I don’t think is nearly as much of an issue among our generation as among the older ones. As I’ve already said, it was never a noticeable issue in the gay community at my university. Then again, look through any gay personals site and see how long it takes you to run out of fingers when counting the ads that say “Sorry, not into [insert race here] guys” or “I have a total fetish for [insert race here] guys.”

My first exposure to Cannick’s work was the column that she did in the LA Times, and I thought then as I do now that she does service to nobody, except for herself.

As a journalist, I find her application of that label to herself insulting. She’s a shitty writer and a shittier reporter, and her arguments smack of the PC-gone-wild identity politics of the 90s, especially with her constant need to inject the phrase “as a Black lesbian” into every other paragraph.

I think it’s the media who blew this rift out of proportion, starting with the exit poll “findings,” which a few gay people took to mean as blacks hate us, but more importantly, gave the O’Reillys and Cinnicks of the world the chance to try and create the illusion that the gay community in general hates black people and vice versa. It’s a shame that people like Cinnick, or O’Reilly, or various others, are able to make a habit of trying to divide communities.

Similarly, hearing that 70% of black voters supported Prop. 8 obviously gave some people the impression that blacks were almost uniformly homophobic, which is likely what sparked the shouts of the n-word in West Hollywood. I’m not trying to excuse that, and no doubt the people who said that had racism issues long before Prop. 8, but it seems to me that you and your dad also had an underlying issue as well, namely a visceral feeling that the only face of the gay community was a racist white one. I mean, I’ve long known of homophobia among blacks, but that never stopped me from supporting black civil rights and writing some fairly brusque op-eds about racist coverage of Katrina.

My point is this: By retreating, don’t you think you’d be helping to reinforce the notion that black equals homophobic?

I was relieved to see the diversity at the rally here in New York. It reminded me that the efforts of people like Bill O’Reilly and Jasmyne Cannick can’t be too successful.

I do agree with what many have said, that there needs to be more acknowledgment of ethnic and racial minorities in the gay community by white gay people, and sexual racism is a big issue that needs to be confronted. Reading about the n-word incidents in West Hollywood really saddened me; we, of all people, should be the last ones to let race divide us.

I’m sorry to hear about what happened to you in West Hollywood, but I do find it troubling that that alone was enough to make you either of you question your support for gay rights.

After gay marriage is won…what will these organizations do? Disband? What other issues do they care about, are concerned with? It’s is all very one sided, self centered, and hasn’t worked.

I’m a gay man who’s been in a relationship for going on 5 years and I do not support the gay marriage movement, the way it’s been handled, or anything about it.

I agree that there’s racism in the gay community, but I think you’re blowing out of proportion a little, not least because a lot of gay people aren’t white. Aside from a few nasty blog posts responding to articles and what I heard about the West Hollywood incidents, I haven’t seen any. When I was at the protest against Prop 8 here in NYC, shortly after the election, I saw people of all races in the crowd demonstrating together, as well as quite a few interracial couples.

But your father the judge seems to think that gay equals white…

Well my Father not “yo pappy” as you called him who incidently is a Judge so I’m not sure what the ebonics were meant to imply has always seen this as a civil rights issue period but once incidences of gay racism started making the news he flat out felt if the gay community has a problem with the black community then clearly they don’t need our help (donations, moral support, etc.).
I’m more sad than angry about this just heartsick but my marriage rights were not taken away and I understand the rage that people rightly feel. The fact is a lot of elderly church ladies in the black community voted Yes on Prop 8 out of ignorance and had they actually MET or TALKED TO any of the people on here or their families and put a face to this issue they would have voted differently.
Whether it was distaste, fear, or just bad judgement that stopped the outreach these verbal attacks on other communities black, straight, latino,mormon are conterproductive. The fact is reading these comments anyone can see this anger pre-dates the Prop 8 vote.
THIS WOMAN IS AN IDIOT I DON’T KNOW ONE BLACK PERSON GAY OR STRAIGHT WHO AGREES WITH HER so please stop holding up idiots like this as some kind of “Voice For The Black Community”. She is just another racist and America already has enough of those. Black people are not the enemy and we are not to blame for the Prop 8 vote period The elderly, christians, and republicans voted it for it in near unaimous(I misspelled) numbers.Why out of all the groups of people who voted yes are so many people attacking us?

The best way to make her go away is to ignore her. She comes across as a deeply unstable person with some serious issues and a big chip on her shoulder.

Come to think of it…Why doesn’t Jasmyne Cannick just go somewhere and just STFU already!