Since the passing of old school queens Paul Lynde, Liberace and Charles Nelson Reilly, there have been few gays to take up the mantle of “Gayest Person Alive”, but thanks to Johnny Weir and Bethenny Frankel, that center square has been filled.
Michael Lucas’s BFFs, Johnny and Victor Weir-Voronov paid a visit to Bethenny where they had an in-depth discussion on masculinity as a social construct that’s relative and open to interpretation but ultimately detrimental to gay men’s views of themselves and others.
Nah, they just had a kiki over some stereotypical shit:
Johnny: Okay so before we got married he was actually in the closet until about two months before we were married.
Bethenny: Oh my God. What?
Victor: Yeah, I was in the closet. I told my family a month before we got married and then my friends only found out in People magazine.
Bethenny: Wait a second, hold on. You were in the closet a month before you got married? I’ve never heard that in my entire life. That’s crazy. How long did you know you were gay?
Victor: Probably since I was the age of six or eight.
Bethenny: You come out of the closet and you dip your foot in, you date like a banker, an accountant. You date Johnny Weir, flamboyant, furs.
Johnny: The gayest person ever.
Bethenny: You’re the gayest person alive. So like mom, just want to let you know I’m gay and I married the gay person in the dictionary, when you look up the word gay, I married that guy. Go big or go home.
Victor: That’s what happened, I chain stormed the door down, I didn’t come out of the closet. I basically said A. I’m gay, B. I’m getting married and C. It’s to Johnny Weir and the expectation, I’m a masculine guy people don’t.
Bethenny: No, you look straight as an arrow friend.
Johnny: And he talks like it. I was on, I did the campaign for MAC Cosmetics and at that time I was in every mall in America when he was doing the coming out process so I had the mohawk, the full dirty face and nipples out and everything and he would walk his friends by the poster and say, I’m gay and I’m dating that.
Victor: After I did my dad. I was going to do my dad last because he’s a soviet man, I told him first, he was so supportive, everyone was so supportive so I decided I am going to have fun with this. So I took my best friend to the mall and there was a huge poster of Johnny in makeup and was like, I’m gay and I’m married to that.
Bethenny: That’s amazing.
I tried looking up “gay in the dictionary” and I found this:
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Check out Bethenny interviewing the Weir-Voronovs below:
h/t: Matthew Rettenmund/BoyCulture
BrandoPolo
They’re actually cute together. *shrug*
pierre
Please. He thinks no one knew he was gay?? OMG, there are people not yet even born that could tell that guy is gay! And “masculine”?
Cam
Of COURSE somebody like Weir who would sell out the gay community would try to marry somebody in the closet who has issues with being gay.
They are perfectly suited. Weir confuses being flamboyant with being gay, and his husband has a problem with the entire thing.
MikeE
Jenny Weir is most certainly NOT the “gayest person in the world”.
he might be the most outrageously effeminate man in the public eye, but he is not “the gayest”.
If he were “the gayest”, he’d be DEEPLY offended by his own russophilia.
he’s a disgusting sellout. and a camp caricature, a parody of a gay man, exactly the type of person that anti-gay people love… because he fulfils all of their expectations of what a gay person is.
tricky ricky
I have no idea who Bethenny Frankel is. but, she seems like a character from saturday night live in a local cable access talk show skit set in new York.
Fitz
This jerk is the guy who wrote threats to Lucas. You know.. I want to call him a douche, but a douche at least has a purpose in life. Stop giving it press. The next time you write about it, if there is a god, will when we find it’s corpse in a dumpster.
tdx3fan
This just made me physically ill. It is dripping in stereotypical heteronormative crap. Effeminate does not equal gay. They all sound like Pat Robertson.
Kieran
No wonder Johnny loves Russia. Those Russian boys are damn cute.
CaptainFabulous
@tricky ricky: Well without knowing who she is you’ve described her perfectly.
Kamuriie
Johnny Weir and his husband are despicable.
Dixie Rect
Bethenny’s show should be canceled, its awful, case in point, see above.
TruBlu
@Fitz: @tdx3fan: I know. Lies, more lies on top of lies. Wonder if Bethenny knows Victor Voronov was engaged to marry a female long before and right up until this shit went down with Johnny Weir. And look at this guys followers and tell me something freaky ain’t going on https://twitter.com/HackensackGuy Both Wilson and Mattis AND Johnny Waters follow Johnny Weir AND Victor Voronov and Victor is obvsly ok with what he calls “filthy scum porno” but threatens Michael Lucas??? WTF is going on??
TruBlu
@MikeE: This is true.
TruBlu
Shit so scripted it ain’t even funny.
Akasha
Bethenny to Victor Voronov: “You look straight as an arrow, friend.” You know what they say and it starts with “If it LOOKS like a duck”.
Victor Voronov’s own words to Bethenny: “So I decided I am going to have FUN with this.” Huh? FUN with What, Who, Where, How and last but not least, WHY? The Actor’s Studio in NYC must be doing a brisk business SMH.
MK Ultra
Weir is pretty useless in the grand scheme of things. Voronov is out of touch with reality.
Teleny
@CaptainFabulous: well her weave is pretty. You rarely get that on cable access.
Teleny
@pierre: I guess compared to Johnny???
Akasha
And here are Victor Voronov’s threats to Michael Lucas.
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Did they really think people would forget so soon after? I think not. Very bad form.
BrandoPolo
@Akasha: Does Duckface Lucas really think people care?
Akasha
@BrandoPolo: What? That Victor Voronov emailed threats to Michael Lucas? Apparently, a LOT of people do care.
A couple of hours ago, some people who DO care a lot walked out of FSM; so apparently planning publicity opts and moves, that they so obviously don’t care about according to you, takes a lot of hard work, late hours and great careful planning on their part.
BrandoPolo
@Akasha: Ha. People care like they care about watching a car chase on TV. It’s amusing, but it’s not going to affect anybody’s day.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but no one *really* gives a crap about this food fight between two weirdo Russian queens who both live in their own bizarre world.
Duckface got some mean emails from a troll nobody knows. Oh, no, how will we ever go on with our lives knowing there’s a mean email in Duckface’s inbox? *yawn*
Akasha
@BrandoPolo: @BrandoPolo: I guess that’s what you mean by “NoOne *really* gives a crap”. Interesting name. Hello, “NoOne”.
There’s nothing amusing about threatening people with emails and this “troll” you speak of, Victor Voronov, has threaten others the same way. It’s not cute, funny or the mark of a celebrity. People like you who play down Victor’s threats are a huge problem. Playing his threats DOWN proves you’re actually on Victor’s side and are defending him in a way by trying to make light of it all. Victor Voronov has broken the law in more ways than one, and there are those around him who seem hell bent on him getting away with it. If you ARE on Victor’s side and are coming to his defense, then you are not human or humane and we have nothing more to discuss.
Akasha
Before you try to act smart; by “we”, I mean “you and I”.
Akasha
@Dixie Rect: That are maybe her Talent Coordinator should seek employment, elsewhere?
Rockery
hmmm, it works…
Z-List Couple…. Z-List talk show
BrandoPolo
@Akasha: I got some nasty emails — oh the humanity! Pick up your skirt, move your panties, grab your balls and grow up. Sorry, no one cares about mean emails between two idiots. There’s people with actual *real* problems in the world, maybe you would know that — Duckface — if you got out of your tacky bubble of kept men, airhead boys, and desperate queens.
You’re gay melodrama is highly amusing, and everybody is laughing at you. The fact that you take yourself and your silly email inbox so seriously — that you cannot see that you are a joke — is more than amusing: it’s hilarious.
I have to go feed the homeless tomorrow, something that real humans do. I don’t give a crap about you and your plastic surgeried plastic world of endless fake gayboy drama. We never had anything to discuss, boo: you aren’t on my level. Go start another stupid argument with an airhead twink; that seems to be your calling card haha.
Akasha
@Rockery: Yes on both counts.
Akasha
@BrandoPolo: When idiot emails involve threats, it’s called bullying. Calling people names seems to be your calling card. Is THAT the best you can do? I’m not Michael Lucas, if that’s what you’re implying. Here I thought only little brats call each other names. I’m so sorry. Please don’t be jealous. I am sure there are plenty of people laughing at you, too. Maybe more! Your words sound very familiar. Like it’s coming from one of those fans who now finds herself with no choice but to play along.
As for your homeless remark; I and other humans don’t HAVE to go feed the homeless. We WANT to go feed the homeless, and consider it a privilege to serve others and not a chore. I could list the things I do for others but I wouldn’t want to take up any more of your time. You sound like you need a lot of sleep for your long day ahead, tomorrow. Considering your hateful speech and jaded outlook, I’m glad I’m not on YOUR level.
Akasha
That answers that, so I guess you are, then. Thought so.
stanhope
Oh where to begin. Bethenny’s show sucks the big egg. Victor…straight as an arrow? LMAO He’s sitting like Princess Diana. All that said, they are cute together for a woman wannabee and a fame seeker. All they need now is a baby to ruin and the picture will be complete.
stanhope
@MikeE: AMEN…well said
Akasha
@stanhope: I agree with @MikeE , too; but I don’t judge people by the way they sit. A person’s physical appearance and behavior can be reshaped and re-taught. Classes for social skills, acting and etiquette are everywhere. I’m told they may announce the baby thing on 12/2 but shhh, it’s suppose to be this big publicity surprise. Victor’s friends from Connecticut and Massachusetts are coming back into his life, now. They hope to catch some of the fame and spotlight for themselves. This and more was addressed at the meeting they had at FSM earlier. Stay tuned for more fresh BS, served daily. More popcorn?
Cam
@BrandoPolo: said…
“You’re gay melodrama is highly amusing, and everybody is laughing at you. The fact that you take yourself and your silly email inbox so seriously — that you cannot see that you are a joke — is more than amusing: it’s hilarious.
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Funny, only a self hating gay or a straight person would label Akasha’s comment as “Gay”.
Thanks for giving yourself away. Oh…and it’s “Your not You’re”
BrandoPolo
@Akasha: Capitalizing every other word doesn’t make this kerfuffle any less stupid. #nobodycaresstill
@Cam: Actually, only a self-loathing gay like yourself would assume my use of the word “gay” had a negative connotation: it didn’t, it was just an accurate descriptor. That you took it negatively is indicative of your own hangups with the word “gay” — not mine. Thank you for projecting and thus giving your own self away.
Oh…and you can correct typos online. Cool. It must make you feel really special to have such an amazing talent.
modernfamilyfan
@Akasha To quote what you posted earlier:
: I’m told they may announce the baby thing on 12/2 but shhh, it’s suppose to be this big publicity surprise. Victor’s friends from Connecticut and Massachusetts are coming back into his life, now. They hope to catch some of the fame and spotlight for themselves. This and more was addressed at the meeting they had at FSM earlier.
So how do you know about a meeting at FSM (Fireworks Sports Management)? Do you have a source there who leaks the information to you or are you an unhappy FSM employee who gets high on spilling secrets about your clients to the internet?
Akasha
@modernfamilyfan: I’m still thinking.
modernfamilyfan
You’re still thinking??????? I’ll make it easy for you, is the answer A, B or C?
a. you have an inside source at Johnny’s manager’s office
b. you work for Johnny’s manager and are leaking inside information
c. you are making stuff up about meetings and a baby announcement.
AuntieChrist
I had to swallow the vomit that kept coming up in my throat…Voronov operated a fraudulent/fake investment company called CIS Capital Holdings from 2007 to 2009. His targets were primarily friends, colleagues, former classmates, roommates, and acquaintances…. I wonder if Johnny the traitor will wear a rainbow button or pin while in Russia…? Better take a pair of ruby slippers with you Johnny… Flaming stereotypical git.
modernfamilyfan
And I will say it again, IF Voronov ran a fraudulent/fake investment company from 2007 to 2009, he would had been arrested already. The excuse that the government is still looking for evidence is running thin considering the amount of “evidence” posted on the internet. AND Voronov’s victims would be screaming bloody murder on the internet and in the news about the person who defrauded them not being punished even if they were friends.
AuntieChrist
@modernfamilyfan: A portion of my comment was copied from an official sheriffs report. The money was never found as it was allegedly used primarily for gambling and drugs… But I am sure that both of them are entirely without guile and as pure as the driven snow.
Akasha
@modernfamilyfan: Very busy. One more minute. Thank you.
Akasha
@modernfamilyfan: @AuntieChrist: MFF doesn’t understand that victims of this HAVE been screaming bloody murder, but it’s a bit hard and difficult for someone to scream when they’re dead due to an “accident”. The money is also channeled into businesses the Voronov family owns: Insurance, travel agency, and I think an IT business or interest in that area with offices in NYC, Boston, Gaston or Norcross-Georgia, and overseas. They have regular dealings in Vegas where they do have gambling and drug interests, but this is also where they tend to arrange business and deals (hits, deliveries, take-outs).
One of the reasons Mr. Weir first hooked up with Mr. Voronov is because he was told that the Voronov family had dealings in Vegas, and Mr. Weir always wanted to do a show or some shows there; so yet again, another sell-out. But yes, I agree with you in that they are both as pure as new-fallen snow.
Akasha
@modernfamilyfan: But what if I prefer answering you with D, E, F, G, and H?