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Feminist Journalist Slams Trans Women As “Bed-Wetters In Bad Wigs”
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No. 2 ·
Alexa
This pig doesn’t deserve the name feminist. Please be aware she (especially with her disgusting language) does not represent all or even a majority of feminists. Firing would be too good for her.
Jan 14, 2013 at 10:51 am · @Reply
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No. 3 ·
2eo
“Shims, shemales, whatever you’re calling yourselves these days – don’t threaten or bully us lowly natural-born women, I warn you.”
Threatening behaviour, she seems content to issue threatsa to vulnerable people in society, lets see how she likes her information made fully public for anyone to have a word with her.
I’ll be back momentarily.
Jan 14, 2013 at 11:10 am · @Reply ·
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No. 4 ·
2eo
Threatening behaviour, she seems content to issue threats to vulnerable people in society, lets see how she likes her information made fully public for anyone to have a word with her.
I’ll be back momentarily.
Jan 14, 2013 at 11:10 am · @Reply ·
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No. 5 ·
2eo
She’s a Guardian journalist, meaning she is in the same country as me, I’ll leave it for a few friends to do instead, don’t like the idea of being done for actual libel.
Jan 14, 2013 at 11:12 am · @Reply ·
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No. 6 ·
Wh1t
@QJ201:
A) Don’t try to excuse her actions.
B) “Young people who transition early often simply seek to blend in to heterosexual society and can do so very easily if they are pretty or can pass. Older people who transition in mid life…and here is the feminists point…those born male have had decades of socialization as male and in transitioning to female still hold onto their male privilege.”
o First off, don’t imply that all trans* people are heterosexual (“heterosexual society”). Secondly, what you meant to probably say was “cisgender society.” Thirdly, what constitutes “young” versus “older”? Fourthly, MAAB (male assigned at birth) trans* people regardless of what age they transition at have had male privilege and have been socialized with that male privilege. Fifthly, how does a female have male privilege (looking at females as a whole [u.e. not looking at females who pass as males {but are not trans}, butch females who get an extension of male privilege, etc...])?
C) “Rather than work from within or network (“female tactic”) older trans women may show up and demand a seat at the table (“male tactic”).”
o Why is it that when a person who was MAAB commits an action, it’s considered an extension of their male privilege they once had; but when a person who is FAAB commits the same action, it’s considered an empowering action?
Jan 14, 2013 at 12:10 pm · @Reply ·
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No. 8 ·
vklortho
@Wh1t: Heterosexual was probably not the best way to describe it, but for the most part I think QJ201 has a good point. I also didn’t necessarily get the feeling that QJ201 was trying to excuse her actions(especially since they used the word feminist in quotation marks when referring to badfems). I personally think Julie Burchill was out of line in her article. Anyone wanting to have a serious discussion on the issue wouldn’t be throwing around the words “shim” and “shemale”.
Socialization is a life long process and while trans women do grow up for the most part having male socialization of some form or another, after they transition and assuming they blend in/pass they start to get female socialization from then on. This is overall much easier to do for younger transitioners since they have less time being socialized as male and significantly less time being socialized as an adult male. When you combine it with younger trans womens’ often times greater ability to pass then they often have less time between the start of transition and the start of female socialization. The line between older transitioner and younger transitioner is blurry and may not exclusively come down to a specific number, but there are a lot of recurring themes among the two different groups of trans women that seem to align with what QJ201 is saying.
I agree with your point about MAABs vs FAABs being judged differently for the same or similar actions. It happens and is incredibly crappy.
Jan 14, 2013 at 2:34 pm · @Reply ·
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No. 10 ·
GeriHew
Lol. Trust her.
Julie Burchill is an openly bisexual woman who would never describe herself as bisexual and doesn’t think twice about making biphobic statements. She doesn’t give a shit who she offends. So it’s utterly pointless taking anything she says or writes seriously.
I enjoyed Sugar Rush though.
Jan 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm · @Reply ·
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No. 11 ·
Aidan8
Wow, her rant is disgusting but the editor really blew it. As editor, he should have never printed it.
Jan 16, 2013 at 1:17 pm · @Reply ·
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She is not saying anything that has not been said by other “feminists” since the 70′s.
Even if offensive…the ‘backstory’ is this.
Young people who transition early often simply seek to blend in to heterosexual society and can do so very easily if they are pretty or can pass.
Older people who transition in mid life…and here is the feminists point…those born male have had decades of socialization as male and in transitioning to female still hold onto their male privilege. Rather than work from within or network (“female tactic”) older trans women may show up and demand a seat at the table (“male tactic”).