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Kelly Osbourne Slams Ex For Dating “Tranny.” Bad Form, Missy

Kelly Osbourne, the current spokesmodel for Madonna and Lourdes Ciccone’s Material Girl line, continues to bash ex-fiance Luke Worrall and the woman who came between them, trans model Elle Schneider.Only the language she used in an interview with UK Glamour wasn’t exactly befitting a lady:

“Having to tell my parents my ex-fiancé Luke had cheated on me with a tranny was so humiliating. Everyone kept telling me that Luke was cheating on me, but I never believed them. It’s hard enough to get your head around someone cheating on you… but when when someone is a chick with a dick? I’d always thought the worst way to get cheated on would be with an ugly girl.”

Ouch.

We get it, Kelly. We’ve all been dumped and wanted to shout to the world that our ex has a micro-penis or still sleeps with his Teddy Ruxpin. But on those rare occasions we did lash out, the only people who heard us was our small circle of desperate losers friends—not millions of readers.

Most of the time, though, we hold our tongue—something you should’ve considered doing. Seriously, “chick with dicks?” This from an alleged friend of the Gays and grand marshal at the 2010 West Hollywood Pride Parade?

Someone snatch that tiara back.

Source: DListed.com

By:           Dan Avery
On:           Nov 3, 2011
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  • 69 Comments
    • Breadquanda
      Breadquanda

      Very offensive and very disappointing.

      I like her a lot and I really hope she learns from the negative reaction she’s gotten.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris
      Chris

      LOL! At first glance I thought it was Pandora Box from Drag Race.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 12:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dvlaries
      dvlaries

      Reminds me of the immortal words of Brian Kinney to Justin Taylor in the first season of Queer As Folk: “There are two kinds of straight people in the world, those who hate you to your face, and those who hate you behind your back.”

      It sure seems like, 9 times out of 10, when they’re under a little stress, they prove the character right.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 12:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • No One
      No One

      “This from an alleged friend of the Gays and grand marshal at the 2010 West Hollywood Pride Parade?”

      If “chick with a dick” and “tranny” seem out of line for a “friend of the Gays” perhaps you haven’t read any of the comments regarding the Dan Savage glittering incident here or on Joe.My.God or Towleroad.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 12:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brandon H
      Brandon H

      “Having to tell my parents my ex-fiancé Luke had cheated on me with a faggot was so humiliating. Everyone kept telling me that Luke was cheating on me, but I never believed them. It’s hard enough to get your head around someone cheating on you… but when when someone is a butt pirate? I’d always thought the worst way to get cheated on would be with an ugly girl.”

      Sounds pretty bad when you make it more personally relevant. I don’t know, maybe she was using it in a “I’m one of the girls and I’m using it a playful jibe sort of way”. Still, bad form indeed.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 1:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • George412
      George412

      Kelly is only a friend of the gays fr attention and it helps the paycheck. As for Elle she is beautiful and seems to have her act together something that Kelly doesn’t have. Elle also didn’t get to where she is on her family name.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 1:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      I’d always thought the worst way to get cheated on would be with an ugly girl.

      Since he was already dating Kelly, would that be redundant?

      Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Meowzer
      Meowzer

      I used to really like Kelly Osbourne. I liked the fact that she was able to lose all that weight, participated in Dancing with the Stars and after the whacked out family she came from, still seemed to maintain an heir of sanity.
      Now, watching her on Fashion Police with Joan Rivers, she seems like nothing but a bitter celebrity chaser. She acts like she’s trying to be (or thinks she is) Kim Kardashian. She is constantly slamming Xtina for gaining some weight. Pretty low coming from a former fat girl. Kelly always defends herself by saying Christina used to make comments about her weight when she was heavy. Well Kelly, way to be the bigger (no pun intended) person. You didn’t like it when you were picked on, so now it’s OK for you to do it.
      Now the “chicks with dicks” comment? Poor taste.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 1:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jack E. Jett
      Jack E. Jett

      It is not “bad form” it is her true form and the sooner gays realize that the people we put on a pedastal are there for one reason only. Who the fuck elese would listen to this chick sing?

      Nov 3, 2011 at 2:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adam Sank
      Adam Sank

      This is NOT ok, and I hope she loses endorsements over it.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 2:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kathy
      kathy

      I have had some guy friends that were cheated on by their gf or wives with other women, and they took it very hard. I have been cheated on but it was with other women he was with, either way it leaves the cheated person, heart broken and lashing out, and wondering what was so bad about them that that person went there….its a bad time, give her a break! And as a health matter, a bit more rough to think cause someone was on the down low, you might now be more at risk for some things you might could have avoided if everyone did not stray off. Anyway, thats not a bash about the health thing, its facts for risk, you could have friends that are gay and not be seen as the bad guy in this at all i would think. I mean we all have seen the gay guys on tv bash everyone for everything, and no one is outraged but laughing with them for that. Anyway sorry Kelly had a bad patch, my standard is all men are dogs, just better to leave them alone and be happy on ones on!

      Nov 3, 2011 at 3:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael
      Michael

      Can we just lay off of her??? Her boyfriend left her for someone else. She was a bit jaded and pissed. As far as I know, she’s a good friend of the gay community. WTF? Do we really need find something to bitch about every single f’n time??? With friends like us, who needs enemies in the gay community? I say “tranny” all the time… Does that make me homophobic or transphobic? The TRANNY is literally a chick with a d!ck. I’d be pissed too if my guy left me and if it was some blonde chick I’d probably be calling her a lot worse than some chick w/a d!ck.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 3:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Allen D.
      Allen D.

      @Michael: Amen. Exactly. Hell, my transgendered bff refers to herself as a ‘tranny’ all the time. “Trans”. “Tranny”. Not a huge difference, folks. And when asked what she means by ‘tranny’, she’ll immediately explain “basically I’m a chick with a dick”. So, not seeing the reason for a big uproar here.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 3:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • No One
      No One

      @Allen D.:

      You don’t see a reason for the big uproar because you’re underinformed, a transphobic bigot, or some combination therein. Christ. I hope none of you are opposed to gay kids getting bullied.

      http://www.derailingfordummies.com/#playfair
      http://www.derailingfordummies.com/#backup

      Nov 3, 2011 at 3:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Wingfield
      Wingfield

      Honestly I don’t think there’s that big of a problem. She got cheated on and it was with someone with a penis. If i were a straight girl that would tear me up too. Just because she didn’t completely censor herself this time doesn’t mean she isn’t an ally of the gay community. Also she fully apologized for it on twitter.
      Give the girl a break!

      Nov 3, 2011 at 3:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • xander
      xander

      Elle’s got talent, looks and class. Kelly’s got……um….a famous dad? Yeah, we understand it’s horrid to be dumped, but don’t bash the one you’re being passed over for, slam the ex behind closed doors and chin up in public. It’s by far the best revenge.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 4:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Riker
      Riker

      Until trans-something people can figure out what they actually want to be called, and not have a half dozen different words for the same things (transgender, transsexual, transperson, intersex, genderqueer, third gender, and probably some others I haven’t even heard of), then i’m sorry but I will call you a tranny. Doesn’t mean I don’t love you, but i’m not going to spend time trying to figure out which flavor you are, and then deal with you getting offended because I guessed wrong.

      As for chick with a dick, that’s a pretty accurate description of a pre-operative transwoman . It completely lacks tact, but this is an Osbourne we’re talking about.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 4:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      I think it’s funny hoe gays on here are telling trans people to feel. if this had been about a gay guy a lot of you would be swinging from chandeliers so let’s not tell others how to feel.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 4:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Riker
      Riker

      @Aiden: However, it isn’t even clear that “tranny” is an offensive term. “Faggot”,on the other hand, is objectively an insult.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 5:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • amo
      amo

      @Riker: Why would trans & intersex people decide to start using one word together? Queer people don’t.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • amo
      amo

      I think this article should have mentioned her apology.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 5:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stephen
      Stephen

      I thought the word “Tranny” wasn’t offensive in British english???

      Nov 3, 2011 at 5:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LazyJay
      LazyJay

      “The TRANNY is literally a chick with a d!ck”
      Where I come from, the tranny was a transistor radio. It was and is also used as (insulting) slang for “transvestite”, which is a sexual fetish. If a person wants to use it of themself, generally in a self-deprecating manner, that is one thing. It doesn’t mean everybody else is free to use it of other people like them; the same goes for “faggot”, “nigger”, “bitch” etc ad nauseam.

      Transgender people can be of either sex: some of us may not have dicks, but we object to the term “chick” (which is also a belittling term when used of cis-women).

      So basically, there’s nothing defensible in what Kelly Osborne said.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 5:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TomMc
      TomMc

      @Stephen: Good point. I’ve heard other British people use that term, and not in a hateful way.

      Though of course, I know for some that, regardless of the cultural context, the word itself is objectively hateful. (Curious how that position would reconcile with PoMo Cultural Studies?…)

      Nov 3, 2011 at 6:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @Riker: You obvioslu don’t like trans people, so why do you ckick on the stories? Boredom?

      Nov 3, 2011 at 8:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @Aiden: Obviously,click.

      And I’ve heard plenty of gays call themselves and others fags? There’s never going to be one term all trans people agree with.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 8:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • faces challenges of a vertical persausion
      faces challenges of a vertical persausion

      lol, girl be crazy:)

      Nov 3, 2011 at 8:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • missanthrope
      missanthrope

      @Allen D.:

      Having one gay friend who’s okay with “faggot” doesn’t mean that a straight person gets to say “faggot” all of the time, it’s highly offensive to most gay people. The same applies here.

      Your trans friend doesn’t speak for every trans person and “chick with a dick” and “tranny” are trans-misogynistic slurs no matter what she thinks.

      So yeah, your one trans friend doesn’t give you or anyone else an excuse. Please stop using those words.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 10:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • missanthrope
      missanthrope

      @Riker:

      lol, it’s only “objectively” offensive if cissexual gay people decide that it’s offensive?

      Bullshit.

      You have a ton of trans people objecting to these word, who are are telling you that they are offensive and stigmatizing to us. What else do we need to do for you to believe? Poke our own eyes out?

      Get off your sense of entitlement man. Why are you so invested in using these words? Do you somehow feel it more important that you’re able to use them than the the very real harm they cause to trans people?

      Nov 3, 2011 at 10:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • todd
      todd

      OMG are you people EFFING kidding me? Have most of you negative commentors heard the crap that comes out of LGBT mouths these days? Just look at some of the comments made by posters on this site in the past. I couldn’t count all the slang jargon I’ve read as an example how Republicans have been addressed. And the $h!t I hear from people at the clubs…is just as distasteful as what Kelly has said. So Get off your Holy High Horse because I hear “chick with a dick” and “tranny” more from gay people than from straight people. Or is it just OK from gay people because we’re gay?

      Nov 3, 2011 at 10:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MikeE
      MikeE

      @todd: Todd, Todd, Todd…. the BIG difference is, WE are not giving interviews to “Glamour” magazine.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 10:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      Why this continual push to link gays and transgender people? Homosexuality and transgenderism are two entirely DIFFERENT things. To be gay is to find yourself sexually attracted to your own gender. To be transexual is to feel you were born of the wrong gender.

      This continual linking of the two groups only reinforces the belief among many heterosexuals that both gay and transgendered people are somehow gender-confused and unsure of “what team they play on”.

      Certainly the gay community should be supportive of transgendered people and their rights, but being gay or bisexual is not the same thing as being transgendered and we shouldn’t push the mistaken perception that it is.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 10:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @Kieran: Keep on seeking approval.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Riker
      Riker

      @Aiden: I have a few trans people that are very near and dear to my heart. There are also some trans people I absolutely despise. As far as the larger trans community, I neither like or dislike it. I merely believe that the gay issues are very different from trans issue, and think we would ALL be better off without lumping them into some giant GLBT umbrella myth.

      @missanthrope: When trans people can’t even figure out for themselves what they want to be called, how can you blame cis people for using the wrong word? Yes, a ton of trans people hate the word “tranny”. A different ton of trans people don’t see it as offensive at all.

      Nov 3, 2011 at 11:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @Riker: The only people who believe in that myth are straight people. Believe me trans people know they’re on their own. The LGBT community has shown time and a again that it’s main priority is cis gay white men. Nobody but straight people think otherwise.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 12:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Laughriotgirl
      Laughriotgirl

      @Riker: And a huge number of gay men call themselves and each other “fags”. But, as many a celeb has found out, if you aren’t a gay man and use the word in any context they will roast you until you give the most perfect sincere apology ever crafted… and STILL pick it apart and demand a better one.

      I do agree that the worst thing to happen to trans people politically was allowing the LGB to co-opt us and speak for us.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 12:17 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Patrick
      Patrick

      “This from an alleged friend of the Gays and grand marshal at the 2010 West Hollywood Pride Parade?”

      There is still a large divide between LGBs and Ts. Tbh, some of the WORST transphobia I’ve encountered was from gays. So yes, it’s not surprising to see something vile like this from a LGB ally.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 12:39 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Patrick
      Patrick

      “This from an alleged friend of the Gays and grand marshal at the 2010 West Hollywood Pride Parade?”

      There is still a large divide between LGBs and Ts. Tbh, some of the WORST transphobia I’ve encountered was from gays. So yes, it’s not surprising to see something vile like this from a LGB ally.

      “I’d always thought the worst way to get cheated on would be with an ugly girl.”
      Has she ever looked in themirror?

      Nov 4, 2011 at 12:40 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CBRad
      CBRad

      @Kieran: I’ll agree with you there. We should certainly support equal rights for everybody, but homosexual/lesbianism and transgenders are such utterly different things.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 12:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • devinjgray
      devinjgray

      Nobody wants to be cheated on- that’s not cool. And if Elle Schneider knew that Kelly was dating Luke she’s just as much to blame. However, the attack on the transgender status of Ms. Schneider was unnecessary, rude, and unbecoming a lady who claims to be on the side of those who are persecuted because of their sexuality. So I’ll kindly ask you, Ms. Osbourne, to pick one side of the fence and stay there. Either you have morals and principles that guide every aspect of your life, or you’re a self-unaware bigot who eagerly feeds on hate and prejudice when you’ve been wounded. You have the stage, and we’re watching. Are you a friend of the lgbt communnity, or aren’t you?

      Nov 4, 2011 at 2:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Freesurf
      Freesurf

      I wonder what’s all the fuss about. She was only pissed that’s all. It’s a like a woman finding out that her husband of 20 years had been cheating on her with a DUDE! Seriously like he prefers dick to her pussy.

      She was just pissed that’s all

      Nov 4, 2011 at 6:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John
      John

      Oh everyone on here, shut the fuck up! EVERYONE would be pissed if you got cheated on with a tranny! God knows I’d be pissed. They werent dating, they were engaged. If I got cheated on by a damn tranny, you’d better believe I’d have some words about it.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 8:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WTF
      WTF

      Honestly I’m really tired of the gay/trans “are the same thing” or, “in the same category” b-s.
      I’m gay.
      I’m not offended at all by her comments.

      Gay people are physically attracted to members of their same sex.

      Trans people report feeling “trapped in the body” of the opposite gender or sex.

      There’s a huge difference.

      Why are we continually fighting their fight?

      It only reinforces stereotypes and misconceptions in the public about gay people.

      This is just stupid.
      Kelly Osbourne can say whatever she wants about a homewrecker who steals her boyfriend–trans or not. What she’s saying is fact. Why are gay people running to the defense of the trans boyfriend stealer?

      Nov 4, 2011 at 8:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      I’m tired of gay people coming on trans articles just to repeat the same old thing. If your not offended by this good for you, but next time someone talks shit about gay people remember this talk about being too pc and too sensitive. Her boyfriend cheated with a trans person so she goes on a tirade about that not just hurting this girl but all trans people by her words. And guess what the a people who hate you aren’t going to like you better because you hate trans people just as much as they do. Again, trans people know that the focus of the LGBT is on white gay men and they know that a lot of you would rather see them on edges of society so you can feel normal.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 12:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WTF
      WTF [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Nope Aiden.
      You’re totally off base.
      I never said I hated anyone.
      Nor did I say anything the “gay fight” only being for white males.
      Re-read my post.
      Learn something.
      There aren’t any big words.
      Go ahead. Give it a shot.

      Again.
      I am not confused about my gender, I’m only attracted to members of my same sex.
      So why am I supposed to be lumped into the same category as someone confused about their gender?
      Maybe we should just take on women’s rights and all civil liberties while we’re at it.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 1:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      There are a lot of straight people who think transexuals are just the extreme version of being gay. And why shouldn’t they, thanks to this “GLBT” nonsense that lumps us together? Why not add another T (GLBTT) and include straight men who are transevestites?

      Nov 4, 2011 at 3:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Little Kiwi
      Little Kiwi

      transvestites aren’t an orientation nor a gender-identity, it’s a specific act of sexual arousal.

      “There are a lot of straight people who think transexuals are just the extreme version of being gay. And why shouldn’t they, thanks to this “GLBT” nonsense that lumps us together?”

      so? that doesn’t mean that we should distance ourselves from our trans brothers and sisters, simply because some dumbass straight folks are too fucking stupid to know better. it means you get off your cowardly gay ass, learn more about what it means to be Trans, and educate those dumbass straight people after you’ve educated your own gay dumb ass :D

      you distancing yourself from transpeople, Kieran, won’t make your own life easier. be a real man, not a wimpy little boy, and stand in solidarity with your trans brothers and sisters.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 3:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      I guess if anybody knows what a “real man” is, it’s somebody named “little kiwi” LOL

      Nov 4, 2011 at 3:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Little Kiwi
      Little Kiwi

      hey, you’re the one making bitchy comments from a place of anonymity – the Online Closet.

      that you have to denigrate and distance yourself from transpeople in order to find security as a homosexual only proves me right.

      you looking down on transpeople won’t make your own life easier. in fact, it’ll only ensure that you continue to live a half-life of fear and insecurity. keep it up, sugar. you’re only hurting yourself.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 3:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JayKay
      JayKay

      Trannies are big fans of chopping things off…Let’s borrow a play from their book and cut the T off of the GLB.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 3:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @WTF: Do you do anything but complain? Are you out there fighting for your own rights? I doubt it. Don’t ever complain about black people not accepting you then. I’m so sick of people on here wanting to compare their struggles to others only to turn their back on people are being killed everyday. Guess what some people are always going to association homosexuality with transsexuality so build a bridge and get over it. I’ve heard the same argument about fem guys and men of color. I sear minorities so quick to turn on somebody if they think it will make them closer to their oppressors.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 4:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • re
      re

      The transphobia on this website is shocking.

      I am pretty disgusted. Why not band together? As a lesbian, as an LGBT advocate, as a volunteer helping LGBT youth gain support every day, I am appalled at all of this anger, hostility, and hatred. Some of the world hypocrisy I have ever seen is all over the comments in these articles.

      Those saying the Transgender community has not clearly identified themselves need to educate themselves. I would advise reading GLSEN’s Safe Zone Guide. Trans etiquette is discussed at length there and many other places on the web.

      Find security knowing that you are making a positive change, and for the love of whatever you believe in, leave your preconceived ideas about transgender struggles at the door.

      “Trannies are big fans of chopping things off…” I am ashamed to be part of a community where that sort of rhetoric is tolerated.

      Nov 4, 2011 at 7:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alan Brickman
      Alan Brickman

      Another female predator frustrated by the gay competition..big lose girl!!

      Nov 4, 2011 at 8:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WTF
      WTF [Different person #2 using similar name]

      Jesus! Can you people read?
      Not you, Aiden.
      You can’t even type. (sear?)

      WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HATING ANYONE. NOBODY HERE HAS SAID THEY HATE TRANS PEOPLE.
      I LOVE TRANS PEOPLE!!!

      I JUST THINK IT’S A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAT NEEDS A DIFFERENT APPROACH, DIFFERENT ARGUMENT, DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT, ETC. ETC.

      We’re “watering down the brand” so to speak.
      We can’t take on everyone’s fight, and expect to be succesful at ours.

      Now STFU already I’m done here.

      Nov 5, 2011 at 6:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @WTF: Exactly, when you have nothing left to say attack my spelling. I hope you never complain about people not excepting you. No one asked you to take on any causes, I doubt you even fight for yours. You’re an internet warrior, and you’re full of shit.

      Nov 6, 2011 at 4:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HotLatino
      HotLatino

      Kelly is very ugly, who does she think she is? A beauty… NOT!

      Nov 6, 2011 at 6:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dmitriy
      Dmitriy

      @WTF:
      You are aware that a lot of trans people are gay and bi identified?
      meaning that date people of the same gender too
      most transmen I know are actually really into cismen

      Nov 6, 2011 at 8:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Allen D.
      Allen D.

      @missanthrope: I’ll use whatever words I want. Moreover than being a ‘bff’, the person I was referring to was previous a boyfriend of mine for 2 years. I supported her through her transformation (both emotionally & financially). While the trans issue caused our breakup, don’t presume to call me ‘transphobic’, etc as I’ve clearly been anything but.

      She has been a highly visible member of the Trans community locally & in neighboring states.

      Long story short (too late), if she tells people “tranny is fine” — I’m going with her recommendation, rather than some stranger online.

      Nov 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @Allen D.: Have you ever thought about just calling her a tranny and no one else.

      Nov 7, 2011 at 1:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shemale
      Shemale

      Shemale, CWAD, Tranny. These are all acurate words that speak to the truth about my body.

      I like the terms. I own them. No one can hurt me with these words.

      So long as trans men and women are ashamed of themselves, society will be ashamed of us also.

      Nov 7, 2011 at 12:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Villainguy
      Villainguy

      I am from Holland. Here we call black people ‘neger’. Literally nigger. It doesn’t have negative meaning at all. It is just a word that is used on TV, Radio, dating sites and everyday spoken language. We have a similar word for tranny. In Europe the political correctness doesn’t go as far as it does in the States. Certain things that are deemed offensive in the US are not in the UK or in British English. I’m not saying Europe is better than the USA, all I am saying is that what Americans may deem politically incorrect, Europeans may not. It depends how much power you give a word.

      Nov 7, 2011 at 8:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ScaryRussianHeather
      ScaryRussianHeather

      Kelly is young – 27. Your brain doesn’t stop growing till you’re 26. Also her point of reference regarding sexuality is VERY limited. Remember she was a fat girl with very few former relationships and has grown up in a wierd life.

      All these celebs are quite unaware of actual LGBT life issues. They’re on the gay train for political expediency but not really living in harmony side by side in any serious or family-type way. (Gaga excepted perhaps).

      Even Sharon Osbourne on RPDR had to ask Raja what “bareback” meant. SERIOUSLY SHARON? lol.

      She’s feeling what thousands of hetero women of every age feel when they get dumped by their boyfriends and husbands for men (and now the “new” modern day pre-op trans women category that was never very public especially to heteros before).

      Of course it’s much better to be dumped for a man than a woman since you can never compete with a man. But younger and/or sexually inexperienced grown women see it as embarrassing because of the “freak factor” that exists in society.

      You realize that tons of soccer moms find out their husbands have been living on the downlow for years and even decades and also get dumped for men ALOT, right?

      Don’t blame her for being naive and shallow. She probably doesn’t even know any real gay or trans people intimately (well except her ex lol).

      Sure she is a public figure and can be criticized for using POP CULTURAL references. Don’t say it’s not because it is. Even Drag Queens call each other trannys when they’re really not at all or interested in transitioning and of course it’s quite acceptable because it’s “inside baseball”.

      However, the root of the “problem” is men who stay in the closet or live on the downlow for whatever reason. The preponderance of men who sexually want a partner with a penis is EPIC. And a very well kept secret in the hetero community.

      I don’t even know who Luke Worrall IS, but like most men, he put his penis ahead of his respect for Osbourne, and should have quietly broken up with her first, let some time pass then go about his business if he wanted to play in the sexual sandbox. Good luck with that ever happening hahaha. Sorry ’bout it, Kelly, welcome to being a grown up.

      Here’s a tip. Any guy you date, explore the cross over issue as soon as you get intimate. It’s much better to know your man’s fantasy/desires than to get surprised on tv haha.

      Nov 8, 2011 at 8:30 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @Villainguy: That is such bullshit. I know English black people and yes, calling them a nigger would piss them off.

      Nov 8, 2011 at 1:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Emma
      Emma

      And tranny is actually very offensive to me personally as a British woman. If you have trans friends who are cool with it, more power to them- but they don’t get to decide for everyone else. Plus generally what’s fun between friends is not always cool with strangers, I mean I have male friends who call each other paedophile and rapist and it’s just bros, y’know.

      I can just about handle tranny when it’s used in a webcomic, transgirldiaries, but elsewhere I would generally be uncomfortable.

      As for deciding what to call ourselves trans woman and trans man are almost universally accepted by people who identify as female or male. While there might be dispute over things like ‘transwomen’ or ‘transgenders’ (as a noun) which some argue are de-gendering because they move people out from their identified gender into a third caste there is always nice, friendly, PC ‘trans man’ and ‘trans woman’ (no hyphen, separate words) to fall back on. If someone is not identified as either male or female, trans as an adjective and ask on an individual basis. Debate over other what other terms are acceptable is something you don’t actually need to involve yourself in if you don’t want to.

      Trans man
      Trans woman
      Trans person

      *AND RELAX*

      Nov 9, 2011 at 1:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Emma
      Emma

      PS. I wasn’t trying to tell people to relax with that last line, it was just meant to be a sort of reference to getting tense and then relaxing, like with exercise.

      Nov 9, 2011 at 6:39 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Villainguy
      Villainguy

      @Aiden: Either my written English isn’t that great or you misunderstood what I wrote. I am from HOLLAND. Not England. All I said was that in HOLLAND we call black people ‘neger’ which literally means nigger in English. It’s not street talk, but regular stuff on TV, newspaper etc. I am black. On a dating site I would refer to myself as a ‘nigger’… it’s a box you need to tick off when you fill out your personal details. If that is done in the USA or the UK and probably many more countries it is offensive. I agree with you 100%. All I meant to say that CERTAIN words in the US are taken more offensive than in other countries. I never said that black English people are called nigger and it’s cool.

      My ppoint was that maybe the word ‘tranny’ is not as offensive in Britain as it is in the States. And if it is, I stand corrected. That all I was trying to say.

      Nov 10, 2011 at 8:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Savannah
      Savannah

      @Villainguy: You said above “It depends how much power you give a word.” That’s not the same as merely stating _maybe_ the word ‘tranny’ is less offensive in Britain. If that’s all it was, then why are you going on about the U.S. being so ‘politically correct’ in comparison to Europe?

      What’s really going on is that you were trying to blame us for being offended. It’s not Osbourne’s fault that she looks down on trans women… no, in your view it’s our fault that we don’t like being looked down upon.

      btw- I lived in Europe for a year and a half, including some time in Holland. Even as a white American, I was often surprised at the level of racism that passed for ‘no big deal’ throughout Europe, including Holland. In particular, the amount of casual Islamaphobia is pretty gross.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 3:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cori
      Cori

      @Riker: a>:
      Paint me a picture of a scenario where a person changes their gender and isn’t seen as a homosexual in one light or another. Maybe it’s hard for YOU to link gay to trans, but it’s impossible to be trans and not have been gay before transitioning or after.
      In other words, if you were a guy to start with that liked girls, you will end up a girl that likes girls. Gay. If you start off as a guy that likes guys… well, that means you were gay to begin with and then changed genders and became hetero. LBGT includes the T because while gender identity isn’t dependent on sexual orientation, it does directly affect the context of that attraction.

      Speaking of context, let me lay it out for everyone. IT’S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, IT’S HOW YOU SAY IT. If you are saying something to be mean, then you are being offensive. It’s as simple as that. If my friend introduces me as “my tranny friend,” as long as it isn’t done cruelly, that’s fine. In the case of Kelly Osbourne, she was intentionally being inflammatory and trying to be insulting. She was being offensive and should face outrage by those hurt by her words, but that doesn’t mean the terms she used are inherently evil.

      Jan 23, 2012 at 6:21 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • BROOKECERDA
      BROOKECERDA

      SORRY TO BREAK YOUR HEARTS GAYS,BUT BIANCA DEL RIO DOESN’T EXIST.ITS A CHARACTER JUST LIKE BOZO OR RUPAUL, BUT CARMEN, JANET , LAVERNE & MYSELF ARE WOMEN.
      AND IF ANY OF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A MAN, YOU WOULD KNOW HOW TO TREAT A WOMAN .
      THERE ARE NO DEGREES OF WOMANHOOD.
      WOMEN ARE WOMEN, TRANSGENDER OR CISGENDER.
      YOU BEING GAY DOES NOT GIVE YOU A PASS BE VULGAR WITH US.
      I DONT CARE HOW FEM YOU LOOK.
      BODIES ARE NOT GENDER.
      RESPECT ALL WOMEN !!
      STOP MAKING AN ASS OF YOUR TRANSPHOBIC SELVES .

      Jun 2, 2014 at 11:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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