Queerty is better as a member
Ms. Cox has done many many many things for Trans rights and gay rights, she has my vote!
I love love LOVE that she is out there kicking butt and taking names for LGB and T folks! I couldn’t be happier to have her out there representing us.
I’ not disputing this, I am just genuinely curious. What has Laverne Cox done for gay rights in addition to the work she has done for Trans* rights? Please understand that I am in NO way denying that she has, I am just very curious to know what she has done. I think its great when we *all* care about and work to help *each* aspect of the LGBT community regardless of our position in the alphabet soup.
@jayj150: Handsome? Who’s “handsome”? Laverne? I happen to think she is exquisitely beautiful. “Handsome” is hot a description I would apply to someone so very feminine in appearance. She is ravishing, pretty, beautiful, lovely but “handsome” doesn’t seem to fit, as far as I am concerned.
What I really get from the Couric thing is that Transgendereds want to bring us to the table, but then they want to say “my table, my rules.”
You just don’t really get anyone to listen to your ideas if you start by deciding what you are willing to discuss. If you are proud of yourself then discuss everything openly and honestly. I don’t buy the reasoning that was used either. If you want to talk about other stuff than rush the genital and surgery topic and get on to the other stuff. It took her longer to confront the question than to dodge it.
That has no bearing on her ability to be a Transgendered advocate. However, she is an advocate for Transgendereds not for LGBT, my guess is like most Transgendereds she could give a rats arse about the LGB part unless they aren’t specifically helping her cause.
Also, I really love this “don’t label people” crap. Either there is nothing wrong with the label or there is everything wrong with it. When you start saying that label can’t be used, you just say you find something offensive about it, which you shouldn’t since there is nothing wrong with being transgendered.
@DarkZephyr: Her main focus, to be sure, is on trans rights. However, there’s a lot of overlap there, as she explains: “Everyone has a stake in ending the stigma against trans identities, but gay people may have a more personal interest. When kids are bullied and called anti-gay slurs, it’s rarely because the victim seemed to be attracted to members of the same sex. It’s because the child did not conform to gender expectations based on the sex they were assigned at birth. The bullies might yell “gay,” but it’s about gender expression.”
@tdx3fan: Asking about surgery is on the same level as asking gay activists about how they have sex. Just as being gay isn’t solely about the mechanics of homosexual intercourse, being trans isn’t solely about bottom surgery. And, given that 2/3 of trans folks (give or take) are LGB, I’d bet that most trans folk care at least as much as you do about LGB rights. It appears from the rest of your comment that you’ve already made up your mind about what to think of trans folks, though, so I won’t expand beyond that.
To those who ask can a trans person be a leader in the LGBTQ community, and do the T even belongs there. I say YES to both. Because there is a lot of overlap/interweave/parallel. And truth be told, trans people probably suffer more discrimination from gay men than gay men from trans people. A lot (not all) gay men’s objection to trans people being leaders, spokespersons or just have the T with the LGBQ has to do with esthetics. If someone is not (for the most part) a goodlooking young male, semi-buff white stud, some gay men will bitch, moan and cry foul and pretend it’s activism, when in fact, many times, they just don’t like the way trans people look. And what makes some gay men think that only a LGBQ can be a leader or spokesperson for the LGBQ people. Judy Shepard or any straight person who understands the history, culture: and has truth, passion, dedication, and fight, for LGBTQ rights, like Levern Cox, I welcome with open arms. And I know others will also.
@tdx3fan: And for that matter, what has this person or any other prominent trasn”woman” done for the feminist cause?. I find it interesting how transsexuals demand the support of LGB people and feminists, but are completely silent on issues not directly affecting them. Cox, like her pals Mock and Carrera, never have anything to say about same-sex marriage, or women’s reproductive rights, or violence against women(unless they’re trans”women”). In fact, MANY transpeople have been vocally opposed to the multiple recent legal victories of same-sex marriage.
And the truth is it makes perfect sense. All transsexuals care about is ‘passing’. Being validated for the gender they think they are. They find empowerment in all the chauvinistic, patriarchal, homophobic societal rules that LGB activism and Feminism have fought against.
While feminists and LGB activists have been saying for decades that it is OK not to conform to society’s gender expectations, that just because you’re a girl you don’t need to force yourself to be a bombshell, that just because you’re a boy it doesn’t mean you can’t have interests not typically associated with their gender, the trans approach is simply: well, this child likes ‘mermaids, dolls and pink things’ so obviously he can’t be a boy, let’s medically block his development so he can become a normal girl instead of a non-conforming man.
I don’t hate transsexuals and I’m sure Laverne is a nice person but I do believe that trans should be fighting separately from gays. They attack us when we would rather focus on our own issues and expect us to put them first politically and do all the heavy lifting for their cause.
We need to support our own kind first, trans would rather we had zero rights if it meant us passing laws to protect gays without “including” them. It is like the mormons demanding that black people should have accepted and legalised polygamy before they achieved equal civil rights.
I’m not so sure I agree that trans should be separated but I hear your argument. However, I went to a training on working clinically with the LGBT population and the new acronym the presenter put up on the board was:
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual, Ally
What the actual hell?!!!!! I always hate the fact that everything has to be labeled so are we doing a disservice by trying to appease everyone outside of plain old LGB?!! I don’t see transgender as having much to do with sexual orientation preference. That is more a biological thing as far as I’m concerned, but they are an ostracized group from even within the LGB part so I feel the need for them to remain a part of it. Its complicated but when the presenter put that up on the board I had the biggest WTF look on my face. Transgender and intersex are more biological as far as I’m concerned. I don’t even know what “Queer” means these days because apparently it has a different meaning than the old days when queer was also used to mean gay or lesbian. Questioning and Ally I also am scratching my head about.
I hope the presenter didn’t say LGBTQQIAA was an acronym.
There are three types of abbreviations.
An acronym is formed with the first letter of each word in order to form a new word: AIDS, SCUBA, NATO, WASP, LASER, TASER, IKEA.
You pronounce it as a word.
Truncation comes from shortening words in order to abbreviate:
Mon., Tues., Wed. Apr., Ave., St., trans.
Initialism comes from using the first letters of each word, but it cannot be pronounced as a whole word — one says each letter separately: ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, UN, UK, USA, MRI, TV, LGBT.
I’ve seen LGBT and all other letters referred to as initialism and as an acronym. Acronym was what I called it.
Oh and I forgot to add P for Pansexual and I just read 2S for 2Spirit meaning LGBTQQPI2SAA. Come on now. This is some mess!!!
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