[We'll never get tired of this snap of Hillary Clinton's last gay pride march. Guess which team these boys are on...]
AB: Okay. Back to "LGBT issues" – when Barack Obama released those ads – we can't measure whether or not they're useful, but what was your take on those ads when you heard about them?
MW: Well, as a gay person I think it's terrific when any candidate reaches out to our community in the ways that they think they should, but our approach has been very different. Hillary Clinton has taken the approach to continually speak directly to the community, to go to our organizations, to speak to the LGBT press – I'll give you an example, one of the first things I did last year was that Hillary Clinton went to the Human Rights Campaign equality convention.
She was the only candidate for president who actually went to the group here in Washington and gave a speech and talked about LGBT equality. She has consistently given interview to the LGBT press and I think if you look at the reaction about that, it's been very good. She's not afraid to answer the hard questions. She was interviewed by The Advocate back in October, she was interviewed by the Washington Blade in February. She was interviewed by Logo TV in early February.
AB: Do you have any roll in setting all of this up?
MW: Of course. I mean, I think that's – I don't want to take credit for this, I give Hillary Clinton credit for doing these things, but we work hard to speak to the LGBT press and that's the way we work out. She talked to the Dallas Voice and Gay People's Chronicle -
AB: She should talk to Queerty!
MW: Well, she's working hard, she's talking – we make it a point to make sure that, you know, Hillary Clinton speaks to the community and speaks to them directly. But, you know, Senator Obama wrote an open letter to the community in late February, but we had actually done one on February 3rd, so I feel like we're reaching out, we're doing the right thing to address the concerns of our community.
AB: With regard to those interviews you set up, they were almost all newspapers. Do you still see newspapers as a viable way to get a message across or it the press reaction to those – the press word of mouth around those interviews?
MW: You know, I'm not a press person, so I don't feel qualified to answer questions about press strategy, but I can tell you we have done it in many ways – we have done print interviews, she did Logo TV – she gave them an interview on their news program – she's also done it with independent press releases. We've done things like announced our national steering committee. We used our website. Around the Logo/HRC presidential forum back in August, we also did an LGBT watch program and LGBT Americans for Hillary was right on our website. So, we had a strategy in reaching out. She talks about LGBT issues in her appearances. On February 4th, we did this national town meeting where the Senator took questions from across the country and one of the questions was about LGBT equality and she was thrilled to be able to answer that as part of her voices across America.
AB: Did she release an official statement during the ENDA crisis in Congress last year? I can't recall.
MW: When you say official statement…
AB: Did she take a stance?
MW: We say this on our website, we're for a fully inclusive ENDA and what we really need to do to get it passed, to get a fully inclusive ENDA, is to change our president, because we're going to fight this year, clearly. Whether it's heard by the Senate, I don't know. Certainly Senator Kennedy, he's the head of this committee and will make that decision about where it goes, but certainly we want to push for a fully inclusive ENDA, but really that's only going to happen when we have a Democratic president.
AB: And what if Hillary doesn't win the nomination?
MW: That's not going to happen.
AB: I appreciate your optimism.
MW: You know what? We're focusing on the next election that's in front of us. The "what if's" is a nice parlor game, but it's not worth the energy.
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I am for Obama, but if his 1578 delegates suddenly drop dead of the bubonic plague, (not likely to happen) I will support Hillary with only 1468 delegates.
oh i am hoping upon hope that Hil wins. i get so effing sick of everyone asking if i support her bc she is a woman, or bc i really believe in her issues. wtf is that about? They don't ask men "do you support him bc he is a man, or bc you believe in him?" Like i would vote for her like a mindless drone robot just bc she is a woman. Ugh.
http://slackerchic.blogspot.com/
The fact that the head of her LGBT outreach was on the board of the HRC says it all.
Several items, (1) with regards to Samantha Powers, he was careful not to say that she had grossly overreacted. He's Irish and anyone familiar with the culture's proclivirty foroverstatement and hyperbole knows that Powers reference to Hilary in her own area as a "monster" was extremely harmless simply because it was so exagerated.. Hillary ,in fact made a fool (no overstatement) of herself, showing her own lack of humor and naivete' He would know that . Obama was no better cast in accepting her resignation. She's a Harvard prof and a Pulitzer prize winning author, condemning the whole affair as being very much based on ignorance. Hillary turned around and wrote an article actually saying that Powers literally looked like the Loch Ness monster. I guess that that showed how vicious and low she is. Walsh was probably embarassed by her ignorance and meanness,
(2) I have to congratulate you on your clever interviewing skills, Andrew, in asking about the Obama adds vs. Clinton's closet approaches.
Clearly, Clinton, by keeping her contact with the LGBT community undercovers and out of public view, shows her reluctance to taking a public stake in us(in the closet). Obama, on the contrary, has chosen on different occasions to make his affirmations public,.
Her approach is secretive and uncommital: an attempt not to be associated with queers.
p.s. I'm sure that Powers quit out of disust with the ignorance of the whole bunch. I wouldn't blame her, she's an educated person.
p.s. I'm sure that Powers quit out of disust with the ignorance of the whole bunch. I wouldn't blame her, she's an educated person.
Go Hillz!
"Hillary turned around and wrote an article actually saying that Powers literally looked like the Loch Ness monster." How the fuck did you pull that out of your ass, M Shane??????
AND "Clinton, by keeping her contact with the LGBT community undercovers and out of public view … Her approach is secretive and uncommital…"??????????
Mary, your brains are so fried on Tina or Hillary Haterade that you didn't even read Queerty's caption of the picture on the 2nd page of the interview: "We’ll never get tired of this snap of Hillary Clinton’s last gay pride march."
http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs.....spride.jpg
"Mrs. Clinton, who happened to be behind a group called the Radical Faeries, which featured a man on skates who wore nothing but a silver cape, a tiara and a jockstrap, was so popular the police had difficulty controlling the crowd.†– New York Times
Here are some other pix demonstrating her support for LGBTs IN THE SUNSHINE for the WHOLE WORLD to see, including when she was still FIRST LADY of the United States. Seen any pix of Obama doing that lately? He wouldn't even be photographed with SF Mayor Gavin Newsom after Newsom raised money for his US Senate campaign because he was afraid Newsom's identification with gay marriage equality would hurt him!!!!!!!!!
But the Hill you love to hate:
http://visiblevote08.logoonlin.....parade.jpg
http://www.justout.com/uploads.....illary.jpg
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07.....ws008x.jpg
http://2008central.net/wp-cont.....5af176.jpg
The fact that gay folk continue to support Clinton is sick, sick, sick. How many times do you want to get thrown under the bus? Wake up already…
Obama is clearly the better candidate for the LGBT community. A full repeal of DOMA, in the IL Senate he sponsored and passed legislations that was trans-inclusive, and he has spoken of his willingness to use the Presidency as bully pulpit to push for legislation that will protect LGBT adoption and other laws important to LGBT families.
Obama is clearly the better candidate for the LGBT community. A full repeal of DOMA, in the IL Senate he sponsored and passed legislation that was trans-inclusive, and he has spoken of his willingness to use the Presidency as bully pulpit to push for legislation that will protect LGBT adoption and other laws important to LGBT families.
Sorry Jake but you've drunk the Kool Aide. Obama LIED. He did NOT sponsor let alone pass the gay rights bill in Illinois. He COsponsored earlier similar versions that died in committee but he was too busy running for US Senate to take the few seconds it would have taken to sign his name to the bill that passed. Just because you were once on the team that goes on to win the championship why should you get credit for that win?
The claim that he "passed" it is even more insulting. When it was voted on he wasn't even IN the Illinois Senate anymore. But then he's also, according to the NY Times, told people he passed a bill in Illinois regulating the nuclear industry when that bill didn't PASS AT ALL.
Full repeal of DOMA is meaningless. A political hat trick. Section 2 of DOMA according to his own adviser is legally meaningless and "Same-sex couples … are neither better nor worse off with DOMA repealed" And Obama would STILL support a state's right to deny marriage equality even without DOMA. See for yourself how you've been played at
http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=3468949
Hey Michael,
It doesn't matter about Hillary, or Obama. Once again none of you really is getting the BIG picture in reference to DADT, DOMA, and ENDA. Obama, nor Clinton can do SHIT about that. That is left up to the Senate, and the House of Representatives and if they say NO it's NO.
So thinking Hillary is some DAMN savior that coming to take her Gay children to glory. Keep thinking that. As we Obama supporters are drinking the Kool Aid as some Hillary supporters say. You've been fed Clinton sominex and your still in dreamland.
CHICK AIN'T DOING SHIT FOR THE GAYS.
You all just happy because she will give an interview to a blade publication, and March with the girls in some ol' BULLSHIT Pride parade!
HOORAY……
Her only REAL accomplishments and agenda to make HISTORY is this:
1) Was a first lady in Arkansas in 14 yrs
2) Was the first lady of the U.S for 8 yrs
3) Is a current U.S Senator now in her 2nd term
4) And is looking to be the First Female President of the United States of America
And she is going to have you guys and gals help her reach her goal while paying yours NO MIND!
WORK HILLARY!
Until I read a story by my brother who lived in Rwanda just before the genocide I didn't realize why it was that Hillary hated sam Powers so much: She won a Pulitzer Prize for recording for the world the Clinton Administration's support of the genocide of over 800,000 TuTu's over 100 days by the Hutu majority. They even blocked UN efforts to do anything.
Think she cares about gays; be careful.
BTW. M Bid. In shame apparently Clinton has removed her article (I think in the Observer, but it seems to have been conveniently been removed from the net subsequentty because it was so tacky. She had a picture of Ms. powers next to a dinosaur., Just as bitchy as can be.
My curiousity with this is that I have been relatively removed from judgement, but Clintom really takes the cake for nastyness: presumablty that's one of her redeeming qualities..