Apparently “keeping up with the Jonses” applies to Evangelical ministers, as well—except instead of installing hot-and-cold running baptismal fonts or adjustable leather pews, they try to outdo each other with venomous rhetoric from the pulpit.After Pastor Charles Worley announced in a recent sermon that he thought it’d be a good idea to round up homosexuals and stick them behind an electrified fence, the bar was set pretty high.
But Pastor Dennis Leatherman of Mountain Lake Independent Baptist Church in Oakland, MD has gone one better: Though he admits he feels “dirty just talking about it,” Leatherman confesses his “flesh” is attracted to the idea of committing genocide against homosexuals:
“To be… have a tendency to be effeminate or homosexual is just as wicked as to have a tendency to be a womanizer. Sinful nature does not justify sinful behavior. Now what is our take? What is our response? I appreciate your bearing with me tonight.
First of all, there is a danger of reacting in the flesh, of responding not in a scriptural, spiritual way, but in a fleshly way. Kill them all. Right? I will be very honest with you. My flesh kind of likes that idea. But it grieves the Holy Spirit. It violates Scripture. It is wrong.”
Well we appreciate that the good Pastor has reined in his murderous desires, but how exactly does killing gays violate Scripture?
Its right there in Leviticus: ““If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death.”
How about we take this to the next level?
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So he’s actually violating Scripture by not killing all the gay men he can find.
Of course Leatherman (you gotta love that name, by the way) probably assumes none of his parishioners have actually read the Bible, so he figures he’s safe going out on a limb like that.
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regg
I guess that guy never heard of the THOU SHALT NOT KILL commandment.
more proof that religion is total bullshit that people use to control and hurt others.
Hi There I'm Tom
@regg:
Regg, read the article.
He says exactly that “I will be very honest with you. My flesh kind of likes that idea. But it grieves the Holy Spirit. It violates Scripture. It is wrong.”
He acknowledges the bible is against murder but he says his ‘flesh’ feels differently.
Belize
“First of all, there is a danger of reacting in the flesh.”
I feel so sad whenever I hear the sob story of people who have never gotten laid. 🙂
Ron Jackson
I have a better idea. Lets put and electric fence around North Carolina and shove all the religious nutjobs inside. They can breed themselves out of existence. The stupid runs deep in the bible belt.
Stephen
You guys misunderstand the context. When these folk use the term “flesh” they mean “evil, animal nature”. Part of being a Christian is rejecting “the flesh”, not literally, but metaphorically, by rejecting the natural inclinations, that we, as animals, have. Very strange dichotomy, I’d say, coming from folks that deny we actually evolved from animals. They believe that only their faith in their particular brand of theism is what keeps them from being savages, i.e., giving into their “animal desires”.
It’s also interesting to note that this is the reason they hate us so much. They consider our acceptance of our own homosexuality as “giving in to the flesh” or “giving in to carnal desires” (same thing) and TRULY believe it is some slippery slope to murder, rape, and other violence.
I won't grow up
As someone once said “You can’t fix stupid”.
Well
There is no possible excuse for this kind of hate speech, despite the “context”, which we understand well enough. This is the kind of incitement that get people killed. Is there truly no legal recourse against such hate speech in the U.S.?
B
Regarding Queerty’s comment “It is right there in Leviticus,” Leviticus applies only to Jews. The last sentence in it indicates as much. If you don’t believe that and what to fact check, ask a rabbi.
The preacher is basically saying that he is personally prejudiced against gays, but the Bible forbids him from acting on those prejudices.
Judy Swindler
Pastor Dennis Leatherman and Pastor Charles Worley a/k/a Pastor Dachau are peas in a pod:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Pastor-Dachau-a-k-a-Pastor-by-Judy-Swindler-120524-827.html
Spread da word all you can.. light of day is the only way to kill mold.
Take care all,
Judy
DouggSeven
Pastor Dennis ‘Leatherman’.
Hmmm…
Jakey
What a flesh-crawling feeling it gives me to know that people like this are walking around in the U.S., ready and willing to kill every gay person they see but for the Biblical prohibition against it. Can they honestly not think of a better reason not to do that? Creepy creepy creepy.
infidel
The Christian god and bible are fiction. Liberal and conservative christians cherry pick the bible and use the parts they like. I say, pitch the nonsense in the garbage.
Danny
The bible says all sort of things. It plainly says Working on the Sabbath is punishable by death, no exceptions, so according to the bible all pastors who receive paychecks and the congregations that pay them must be put to death. Afterall Jesus never took a paycheck. That’s why following what the bible says on lots of subjects is crazy and evil.
Josh in OR
I wonder how big a blow to Christianity the invitable fall of the Roman Cult will be. With so many scandals rocking the Church of Golden Idolatry in the last few years – covering up and thus supporting rampant, systematic child abuse, supporting the degradation of women, gays and pretty much EVERY minority throughout their history, and most recently, the ‘brutal, personal attack’ against the head skirt-wearing Hitler Youth in the form of personal documents that reveal corruption at the very top – how long can the people who cling to the fantasy continue to support it? And more importantly, when the inevitable happens and the oldest Christian cult falls at last, what will it mean for the rest of them?
Religion is a cancer on the world, and is the only excuse left for hating and killing. It is demonstratively corrupt and undeniably detrimental to the forward progress of mankind. Is it wrong of me that I desperately want to see every church, cathedral, mosque, temple and synagogue burn to the ground so that something new – and benificial – can rise in their place?
jason
You have to wonder whether these religious leaders are mentally unbalanced. With a name like Leatherman, maybe it’s traumatized him.
What the f**k
@Hi There I’m Tom: And your point is?….because what I’m reading is you rationalising the insane…..you must be f**king joking right-why ,for what reason would you feel the need to point that out!???!Heres my feeling….my flesh feels the same about him and as I don’t believe in man made scripture…I don’t have any qualms…yeah, I said it….death to the c**t!
Tom
@DouggSeven: yeah, I was thinking the same thing. For a homophobe that’s a real unfortunate last name. It eerily reminds me of Ronald Gay, who shot up a gay bar in Roanoke, VA, killing one, and told police he was upset over jokes about his last name.
MJ
@What the f**k: I’m with you. doesn’t the Gay community have a gun club? I hope there’s a chapter in Richmond, because I’m finding more and more logical reasons to arm myself just in case
Me
Religion is a mindf#ck people ! Give it up- you’re being DUPED! Straight, white, men have controlled the Earth forever and continue to do so thru religion and politics (in front and behind the scenes) and most people are just like sheep to the slaughter!
George
“Flesh” is christianese for fallen, evil human nature as opposed to the Holy Spirit which is God’s good influence. So he is saying that his dark side likes the idea of killing. Which is still pretty bad. My dark side can’t even kill house mice
Stephen
@George Yep, you got it. He’s speaking metaphorically, and isn’t actually directly inciting violence against the LGBT community, just expressing his visceral hatred for us. It doesn’t make it any less evil, though, and there’s still no excuse.
FunMe
BAPTIST church = HATE group
I think it’s time now to start lawsuits against the Baptist church for all their hate. Federal investigation against the Baptist church for inciting violence against other Americans. Enough with their BS homophobia. Hit them where it hurt$!
nikko
@B: What a BS argument that is. So gay sex was wrong for the jews, but okay for us?! Wha??!
B
No. 23 · nikko wrote, “@B: What a BS argument that is. So gay sex was wrong for the jews, but okay for us?! Wha??!”
It is not a “BS” argument but a statement of what is in the friggin Bible. If you don’t like it, blame the people who wrote it.
Look up an on-line copy of the Bible and read the very last sentence in Leviticus – Leviticus 26:46: “These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.”
What to you think “between him and the children of Israel” means? It sure as hell does not include me because I am not Jewish!
Atomicrob
What I find most amazing is people would sit in a church and listen to these men without challenging their outrageous rhetoric. “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves” Matt 7:15
Daez
@Josh in OR: Actually, the Baptist Church hates the Catholic Church and believes it is the ultimate source of sin in the world. They consider it to be the Whore of Babylon as mentioned in Revelation.
Daez
@jason: Oh, so because he is a cisgendered white male he must be mentally unbalanced. If this was a black female you would be blaming all blacks and all women for this sort of behavior.
1equalityUSA
Dennis Leatherman sounds as though he struggles with homosexuality and fights his inner feelings with extreme anti-gay rhetoric. How unusual….
Legoranger
I always love when Christians pull out the abominations line from Leviticus. You know what else it lists as abominations??? Eating shellfish, cutting the hair at your temples, adultery, wearing the clothes of the opposite sex among many other things. Funny they never mention or go after the women wearing pants at a party eating shrimp cocktails…