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	<description>Free of an agenda. Except that gay one.</description>
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		<title>By: Buck</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/measuring-the-impact-doma-protests-in-the-news-20090112/#comment-112587</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-112140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leland Frances&lt;/a&gt;: So Leland. what are you doing?  Are you spending five days a week in the halls of Congress knocking on doors and getting Senators and Congressmen to listen and vote positively on our issues?Spending all day telling people who are at least trying to do something how &quot;retarded&quot; they are?

What disgusts me? Armchair activists who engage in intellectual masturbation instead of actually getting off their duffs and doing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-112140" rel="nofollow">Leland Frances</a>: So Leland. what are you doing?  Are you spending five days a week in the halls of Congress knocking on doors and getting Senators and Congressmen to listen and vote positively on our issues?Spending all day telling people who are at least trying to do something how &#8220;retarded&#8221; they are?</p>
<p>What disgusts me? Armchair activists who engage in intellectual masturbation instead of actually getting off their duffs and doing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon, Sacramento, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon, Sacramento, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-112090&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blake&lt;/a&gt;: To respond to Blake [Comment #1], yes, I would love to get out in the streets for ENDA / the Matthew Shepard Act.  I think that people should at least be in the streets in Tennessee right about now, after a man was just fired for being gay and his boss blatantly confirmed that that was the reason.  It&#039;s completely legal in TN since they have no law protecting sexuality from workplace discrimination.  This is yet another reminder of why we need ENDA.

Also, to Brian Miller [Comment #7], who wrote, &quot;We&#039;re their patsies, and it&#039;s never going to change. Too many of us value political power and a lefty agenda over our own basic dignity.&quot;  I&#039;ll be right there with you!  Let&#039;s get something done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-112090" rel="nofollow">blake</a>: To respond to Blake [Comment #1], yes, I would love to get out in the streets for ENDA / the Matthew Shepard Act.  I think that people should at least be in the streets in Tennessee right about now, after a man was just fired for being gay and his boss blatantly confirmed that that was the reason.  It&#8217;s completely legal in TN since they have no law protecting sexuality from workplace discrimination.  This is yet another reminder of why we need ENDA.</p>
<p>Also, to Brian Miller [Comment #7], who wrote, &#8220;We&#8217;re their patsies, and it&#8217;s never going to change. Too many of us value political power and a lefty agenda over our own basic dignity.&#8221;  I&#8217;ll be right there with you!  Let&#8217;s get something done.</p>
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		<title>By: HYHYBT</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/measuring-the-impact-doma-protests-in-the-news-20090112/#comment-112288</link>
		<dc:creator>HYHYBT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-112140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leland Frances&lt;/a&gt;: You imply that it isn&#039;t just the federal DOMA that allows states to disregard out-of-state marriages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-112140" rel="nofollow">Leland Frances</a>: You imply that it isn&#8217;t just the federal DOMA that allows states to disregard out-of-state marriages.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-112245&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WeTheSheeple&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;i&gt;I must agree that the appropriate place to put pressure in on Congress&lt;/i&gt;

Which would involve an ultimatum, with a deadline attached, to the Democrats (who run Congress) -- along with Obama, who would have to receive a separate ultimatum to sign whatever bill Congress passes.

Which will NEVER happen, because when push comes to shove, Democrats punch the queer community in the stomach, stomps on their face as they fall to the ground and says &quot;shut the fuck up, FAGGOT!&quot;

And the queer community gets up, brushes itself off, whimpers &quot;well we don&#039;t want to see the Republicans get in power, may I have another sir,&quot; and promptly sends hundreds of millions of dollars and millions of votes to the Democrats.

We&#039;re their patsies, and it&#039;s never going to change.  Too many of us value political power and a lefty agenda over our own basic dignity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-112245" rel="nofollow">WeTheSheeple</a>: </p>
<p><i>I must agree that the appropriate place to put pressure in on Congress</i></p>
<p>Which would involve an ultimatum, with a deadline attached, to the Democrats (who run Congress) &#8212; along with Obama, who would have to receive a separate ultimatum to sign whatever bill Congress passes.</p>
<p>Which will NEVER happen, because when push comes to shove, Democrats punch the queer community in the stomach, stomps on their face as they fall to the ground and says &#8220;shut the fuck up, FAGGOT!&#8221;</p>
<p>And the queer community gets up, brushes itself off, whimpers &#8220;well we don&#8217;t want to see the Republicans get in power, may I have another sir,&#8221; and promptly sends hundreds of millions of dollars and millions of votes to the Democrats.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re their patsies, and it&#8217;s never going to change.  Too many of us value political power and a lefty agenda over our own basic dignity.</p>
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		<title>By: DCDavis769</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCDavis769</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Montgomery Advertiser totally misrepresented us, even if I was pleased with the press coverage we got. We had about 60-70 people there who were of many ages and sexual orientations, but, according to the Advertiser, it was a crowd of &quot;dozens of gay students.&quot;

I was, however, just happy to have any form of visibility in Montgomery, AL.

-- Daniel C. Davis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Montgomery Advertiser totally misrepresented us, even if I was pleased with the press coverage we got. We had about 60-70 people there who were of many ages and sexual orientations, but, according to the Advertiser, it was a crowd of &#8220;dozens of gay students.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was, however, just happy to have any form of visibility in Montgomery, AL.</p>
<p>&#8211; Daniel C. Davis</p>
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		<title>By: WeTheSheeple</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeTheSheeple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I may not be as snarky as the previous commentor, I must agree that the appropriate place to put pressure in on Congress.  If anything, the various nations gay organizations should put emphasis on educating the gay (and straight supportive) community on how laws are made &amp; how the court system works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I may not be as snarky as the previous commentor, I must agree that the appropriate place to put pressure in on Congress.  If anything, the various nations gay organizations should put emphasis on educating the gay (and straight supportive) community on how laws are made &amp; how the court system works.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Frances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leland Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Shakespeare: &quot;a lot of noisy political children signifying nothing.&quot;

1. The only Americans who weren&#039;t already aware of the issue of gay marriage would have to have been in a coma for the past decade. 

2. The focus itself is retarded by nature of its narrow focus. The cry should be for &quot;CONGRESS and Obama to repeal DOMA&quot; because it&#039;s a federal LAW not simply a policy and he can&#039;t do anything [besides advocate for change] until Congress does.

3. While it wouldn&#039;t hurt, how much repeal of the FEDERAL version of DOMA would help is relative. All but a handful of states have their own version of DOMA, therefore only those couples who live in Massachusetts or those few states with civil union/domestic partnership laws could hope that the federal government minus DOMA would then, for instance, recognize their joint income task returns. It would also open the way for the POSSIBILITY of the foreign born partner of a gay American citizen becoming a citizen, but again, only relative to those few states that have some kind of legal recognition. But, hey, children, and that&#039;s EXACTLY the mentality driving the Impact clown car, are not ones for nuance and facts.

4. The saddest part of your commmentary shares the core self-delusion of Amy Impact and her homo homeys: that media attention = change. It CAN but NOT in 10-second sound bites. The repetitiveness of these same-old, same-old tired approaches to change long ago began to fall on the proverbial deaf ears; as annoying as the endless &quot;better do somethin&#039; cause yer TV is gonna die in February&quot; PSAs.

5. When will someone uncover how much these people are being paid by the Right Wing to distract gays from actually ACTing UP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Shakespeare: &#8220;a lot of noisy political children signifying nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>1. The only Americans who weren&#8217;t already aware of the issue of gay marriage would have to have been in a coma for the past decade. </p>
<p>2. The focus itself is retarded by nature of its narrow focus. The cry should be for &#8220;CONGRESS and Obama to repeal DOMA&#8221; because it&#8217;s a federal LAW not simply a policy and he can&#8217;t do anything [besides advocate for change] until Congress does.</p>
<p>3. While it wouldn&#8217;t hurt, how much repeal of the FEDERAL version of DOMA would help is relative. All but a handful of states have their own version of DOMA, therefore only those couples who live in Massachusetts or those few states with civil union/domestic partnership laws could hope that the federal government minus DOMA would then, for instance, recognize their joint income task returns. It would also open the way for the POSSIBILITY of the foreign born partner of a gay American citizen becoming a citizen, but again, only relative to those few states that have some kind of legal recognition. But, hey, children, and that&#8217;s EXACTLY the mentality driving the Impact clown car, are not ones for nuance and facts.</p>
<p>4. The saddest part of your commmentary shares the core self-delusion of Amy Impact and her homo homeys: that media attention = change. It CAN but NOT in 10-second sound bites. The repetitiveness of these same-old, same-old tired approaches to change long ago began to fall on the proverbial deaf ears; as annoying as the endless &#8220;better do somethin&#8217; cause yer TV is gonna die in February&#8221; PSAs.</p>
<p>5. When will someone uncover how much these people are being paid by the Right Wing to distract gays from actually ACTing UP?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Triska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Triska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The protest in Boston was freezing but pretty cool - Barney Frank showed up and we got free bagels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The protest in Boston was freezing but pretty cool &#8211; Barney Frank showed up and we got free bagels.</p>
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		<title>By: Losangelessur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Losangelessur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good synopses!</description>
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		<title>By: blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe one day some one will protest for ENDA or the Matthew Shepard Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe one day some one will protest for ENDA or the Matthew Shepard Act.</p>
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