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	<title>Comments on: Merv Griffin&#8217;s Sexual Relations with Rock Hudson, Marlon Brando, and All of Tinseltown</title>
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		<title>By: TeeHee</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeeHee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-515096&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mike&lt;/a&gt; lol..There is no such thing as &quot;a aids test&quot; you hillbilly redneck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-515096" rel="nofollow">mike</a> lol..There is no such thing as &#8220;a aids test&#8221; you hillbilly redneck.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merv had a lovely bunch of coconuts . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf670orHKcA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merv had a lovely bunch of coconuts . . .</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf670orHKcA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf670orHKcA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/merv-griffins-sexual-relations-with-rock-hudson-marlon-brando-and-all-of-tinseltown-20090506/#comment-485140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is marlon brandon?</description>
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		<title>By: Rich O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/merv-griffins-sexual-relations-with-rock-hudson-marlon-brando-and-all-of-tinseltown-20090506/#comment-465853</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merv actually did give money to an Aids Foundation and to expect him to come out-a man of his era is simply preposterous. I do not believe the story of Mr Signorile about Merv firing out gay men-and if he did, shame on him. But remember,by his own admission-Mr Signorile himself used to be a gay basher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merv actually did give money to an Aids Foundation and to expect him to come out-a man of his era is simply preposterous. I do not believe the story of Mr Signorile about Merv firing out gay men-and if he did, shame on him. But remember,by his own admission-Mr Signorile himself used to be a gay basher.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 03:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this changes the fact that Merv may well have been the greatest talk show host in Hollywood history and my grandma&#039;s fave. Owning his own shows, he outdistanced the great Carson, became a game show mogul and head of a billion dollar plus real estate empire. When one considers his vast contribution to entertainment pop culture and the diverse wealth of personalities who graced his talk show as guests over the years, to trivialize his life story by publicizing his private sexuality as his showbiz legacy is a rank tabloid pursuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this changes the fact that Merv may well have been the greatest talk show host in Hollywood history and my grandma&#8217;s fave. Owning his own shows, he outdistanced the great Carson, became a game show mogul and head of a billion dollar plus real estate empire. When one considers his vast contribution to entertainment pop culture and the diverse wealth of personalities who graced his talk show as guests over the years, to trivialize his life story by publicizing his private sexuality as his showbiz legacy is a rank tabloid pursuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Author Darwin Porter&#039;s niche is posthumously outing celebrities. He did it for Marlon Brandon.&quot;? I think it&#039;s Marlon BRANDO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Author Darwin Porter&#8217;s niche is posthumously outing celebrities. He did it for Marlon Brandon.&#8221;? I think it&#8217;s Marlon BRANDO!</p>
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		<title>By: K.J. Brownday</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.J. Brownday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-159287&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BobP&lt;/a&gt;: 

that sounds like something that helped out people with aids by giving them the access to their life insurance policy when they were alive and needed it...i know some info on this type of business and merv was simply an investor in a company that bought out the life insurance policies of terminally ill people and allowed them to enjoy the money while they were alive, like i said before...it was not restricted to people with aids in no way, shape or form. i am sorry but your comment was a perfect example of someone twisting reality to prove a liberal agenda. and there was nothing wrong with buying out &quot;terminally ill&quot; patients insurance policies because they benefitted and so did the company that purchased them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-159287" rel="nofollow">BobP</a>: </p>
<p>that sounds like something that helped out people with aids by giving them the access to their life insurance policy when they were alive and needed it&#8230;i know some info on this type of business and merv was simply an investor in a company that bought out the life insurance policies of terminally ill people and allowed them to enjoy the money while they were alive, like i said before&#8230;it was not restricted to people with aids in no way, shape or form. i am sorry but your comment was a perfect example of someone twisting reality to prove a liberal agenda. and there was nothing wrong with buying out &#8220;terminally ill&#8221; patients insurance policies because they benefitted and so did the company that purchased them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaroslaw</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/merv-griffins-sexual-relations-with-rock-hudson-marlon-brando-and-all-of-tinseltown-20090506/#comment-245208</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaroslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deanna &amp; Eric - why are you even on this blog? This is a blog primarily for Gay people and Gay friendly people.  If you can&#039;t understand that hiding who you are when you are Gay and letting the world think you are straight is a problem then you have no business being here.

How can you be unaware that people put their (straight) wedding announcements in the paper, announce the births of children etc.?  This is all very public, but being Gay, when hidden, means it is a dirty secret.  You must understand this but your comments pretend that you don&#039;t.  Idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deanna &amp; Eric &#8211; why are you even on this blog? This is a blog primarily for Gay people and Gay friendly people.  If you can&#8217;t understand that hiding who you are when you are Gay and letting the world think you are straight is a problem then you have no business being here.</p>
<p>How can you be unaware that people put their (straight) wedding announcements in the paper, announce the births of children etc.?  This is all very public, but being Gay, when hidden, means it is a dirty secret.  You must understand this but your comments pretend that you don&#8217;t.  Idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/merv-griffins-sexual-relations-with-rock-hudson-marlon-brando-and-all-of-tinseltown-20090506/#comment-245066</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admired Merve Griffin&#039;s talent greatly over the years.  How he lived his private life is of no concern to me.  He had a right to privacy as we all do.  He gave us so many wonderful laughs over the years I wish there were more like him.  I do miss the Merve man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admired Merve Griffin&#8217;s talent greatly over the years.  How he lived his private life is of no concern to me.  He had a right to privacy as we all do.  He gave us so many wonderful laughs over the years I wish there were more like him.  I do miss the Merve man.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Ebacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Ebacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone want to slander the dead? I know I surely wouldn&#039;t; in fact, I wouldn&#039;t slander any person, living or dead, even if what I had just said eventually turned out to be true. In fact, afterwards, I would be wishing I had just kept my mouth shut. Nobody actually knew that Merv Griffin was gay or bi-sexual, unless he revealed a secret himself before he passed; even then, he probably would have wanted it to remain a private matter. So, as I said, how do we know that he was truly gay or was bi-sexual? In his obituary, it was revealed that he left behind a widow and I think he also had a child/children early on in his adult life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone want to slander the dead? I know I surely wouldn&#8217;t; in fact, I wouldn&#8217;t slander any person, living or dead, even if what I had just said eventually turned out to be true. In fact, afterwards, I would be wishing I had just kept my mouth shut. Nobody actually knew that Merv Griffin was gay or bi-sexual, unless he revealed a secret himself before he passed; even then, he probably would have wanted it to remain a private matter. So, as I said, how do we know that he was truly gay or was bi-sexual? In his obituary, it was revealed that he left behind a widow and I think he also had a child/children early on in his adult life.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former rent boy to the stars, I found all of this knowledge to be fascinating when I first learned of it during the 70s. Though I never had sex with Merv Griffin, I was told all about him from my pimp who provided hustlers for Merv, among others. This pimp had quite a lengthy Heidi Fleiss-like record of providing boys to celebrities and the rich and powerful -- going back to the early 60s, with clients like WALT DISNEY of all people. Poor Tommy Kirk ... such hypocrisy, Uncle Walt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former rent boy to the stars, I found all of this knowledge to be fascinating when I first learned of it during the 70s. Though I never had sex with Merv Griffin, I was told all about him from my pimp who provided hustlers for Merv, among others. This pimp had quite a lengthy Heidi Fleiss-like record of providing boys to celebrities and the rich and powerful &#8212; going back to the early 60s, with clients like WALT DISNEY of all people. Poor Tommy Kirk &#8230; such hypocrisy, Uncle Walt.</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Herbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those orgies must have been the livin&#039; end.
Merv also had a stylish beard, dahlink -- Eva Gabor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those orgies must have been the livin&#8217; end.<br />
Merv also had a stylish beard, dahlink &#8212; Eva Gabor.</p>
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		<title>By: Stamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, you must admit, that&#039;s one hell of a life.</description>
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		<title>By: mb00</title>
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		<dc:creator>mb00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh who gives a fuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh who gives a fuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you have part of the legend, Queerky.

The original story was not that Clark Gable &quot;had to allow himself to be blown by George Cukor,&quot; but that like a lot of 20-something meat fresh to Follywood, he peddled himself a bit, road the casting couch whatever...and that later, after he&#039;d become a star, he was behind Cukor&#039;s firing as the first director of &quot;Gone With the Wind&quot; because he didn&#039;t want a daily reminder of those days.

Another story went that it was Gable&#039;s doing but only because Cukor was famous as a &quot;woman&#039;s director&quot; and he feared he&#039;d be lost in Cukor&#039;s effort to make Vivien Leigh shine. Allegedly Cukor continued to privately coach Leigh and Olivia de Havilland during filming.

Correspondence indicates Cukors leaving was really because of a fight for control between him and GWTW producer David Selznick or for other studio politics reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you have part of the legend, Queerky.</p>
<p>The original story was not that Clark Gable &#8220;had to allow himself to be blown by George Cukor,&#8221; but that like a lot of 20-something meat fresh to Follywood, he peddled himself a bit, road the casting couch whatever&#8230;and that later, after he&#8217;d become a star, he was behind Cukor&#8217;s firing as the first director of &#8220;Gone With the Wind&#8221; because he didn&#8217;t want a daily reminder of those days.</p>
<p>Another story went that it was Gable&#8217;s doing but only because Cukor was famous as a &#8220;woman&#8217;s director&#8221; and he feared he&#8217;d be lost in Cukor&#8217;s effort to make Vivien Leigh shine. Allegedly Cukor continued to privately coach Leigh and Olivia de Havilland during filming.</p>
<p>Correspondence indicates Cukors leaving was really because of a fight for control between him and GWTW producer David Selznick or for other studio politics reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: KPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that anyone with any sense of awareness to body language and basic human communication clearly saw that Griffin was a self-absorbed, pompous and insecure individual.  Smart no doubt, but he always gave me the creeps and made me very uncomfortable.  None of his alleged behavior comes as a surprise.  I am reminded of what Johnny Carson said, &quot;Nobody gets on Merv (his show) unless they get on Merv first.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that anyone with any sense of awareness to body language and basic human communication clearly saw that Griffin was a self-absorbed, pompous and insecure individual.  Smart no doubt, but he always gave me the creeps and made me very uncomfortable.  None of his alleged behavior comes as a surprise.  I am reminded of what Johnny Carson said, &#8220;Nobody gets on Merv (his show) unless they get on Merv first.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Southern Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southern Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you but I will wait until the 1st of june and get it at the stand set up on the street by the homeless people in the village for a buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you but I will wait until the 1st of june and get it at the stand set up on the street by the homeless people in the village for a buck.</p>
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		<title>By: BobP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the early days of AIDS, I remember reading that Merv started a company which purchased life insurance policies from gay men with AIDS. The insurance policy holders had access to the money, which allowed some to live out their days without having to go on welfare. 
The policies were bought (by Merv) at a discount and when the person died, Merv cashed in the policy at full value.
So, not only did he never step up to the plate and do the right thing, but he actually figured out a way to profit from AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early days of AIDS, I remember reading that Merv started a company which purchased life insurance policies from gay men with AIDS. The insurance policy holders had access to the money, which allowed some to live out their days without having to go on welfare.<br />
The policies were bought (by Merv) at a discount and when the person died, Merv cashed in the policy at full value.<br />
So, not only did he never step up to the plate and do the right thing, but he actually figured out a way to profit from AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Queerky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queerky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone sympathizes with female starlets being used by casting agents and producers, but there was also a male equivalent. I&#039;ve heard Clarke Gable had to allow himself to be blown by George Cukor, when he was starting out. It&#039;s never been easy to be beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone sympathizes with female starlets being used by casting agents and producers, but there was also a male equivalent. I&#8217;ve heard Clarke Gable had to allow himself to be blown by George Cukor, when he was starting out. It&#8217;s never been easy to be beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaroslaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaroslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard for me to believe than none of these rich and powerful closeted Gay men&#039;s did NOT have friends who knew the truth.  As such, couldn&#039;t at least one of them suggest that they come out after death?  Leave some money to an AIDS charity or something?

As Michaelangelo says so poignantly above, Merv for only one example was extremely powerful voice and could have made a huge difference both as a media person AND as a person who had the president of the USA&#039;s ear at the time.

SUPER Sad and it bears repeating - this selfish, greedy, hypocritical lifestyle should never be forgotten when discussing Merv Griffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard for me to believe than none of these rich and powerful closeted Gay men&#8217;s did NOT have friends who knew the truth.  As such, couldn&#8217;t at least one of them suggest that they come out after death?  Leave some money to an AIDS charity or something?</p>
<p>As Michaelangelo says so poignantly above, Merv for only one example was extremely powerful voice and could have made a huge difference both as a media person AND as a person who had the president of the USA&#8217;s ear at the time.</p>
<p>SUPER Sad and it bears repeating &#8211; this selfish, greedy, hypocritical lifestyle should never be forgotten when discussing Merv Griffin.</p>
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		<title>By: John Santos</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merv was a sexual predator who once tried to sexually assault Danny Terrio, then threatened to ruin his career if he talked.  Oddly enough, when he died, the homocons on Gay Patriot praised him on high--because he remained closeted until his death.  Typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merv was a sexual predator who once tried to sexually assault Danny Terrio, then threatened to ruin his career if he talked.  Oddly enough, when he died, the homocons on Gay Patriot praised him on high&#8211;because he remained closeted until his death.  Typical.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griffin was irresistibly charming and his old talk show was like a feast of the best chocolate truffles and champagne because it featured all the greatest stars [read with TALENT not just flavors of the moment] who ever agreed to do TV.

BUT he was a Card Carrying Pig because not only did he not come out LONG after he was untouchable because of his wealth but also because I know of no evidence that he ever gave a dime of that billion to anything gay rights-related or AIDS related AND was one of the insufferable queens like Outsports Cyd Ziegler who thought Reagan, his close friend, was God.

Micheangelo Signorile described [and documented] him best:

&quot;First off, Griffin&#039;s closet kept him shockingly silent while he had access to the president of the United States as his own people were dying. This man was intimate with the Reagans (and Nancy Reagan in particular) during the height of the AIDS epidemic in 80s, with few treatments available and fear-mongering having gripped the media. Griffin&#039;s gay brothers — his friends, his lovers, his people across America, around the world — suffered and met horrific deaths. And yet, because he was closeted it is highly unlikely he ever made the connection for the Reagans (between himself and those who were suffering and dying), pointed out the government negligence, or even talked openly as a gay person. They likely knew, but it was unspoken, and that allowed all involved to just rationalize things –to say to themselves that, well, Merv, is not like those other people, and to always believe that maybe it wasn&#039;t true anyway, and that he was truly dating Eva Gabor. He also stayed silent about the epidemic in the media — ironic since he was a man very much at the center of the media industry and in shaping communications and television in this country — when his voice would have made a huge difference.

Secondly, Griffin&#039;s closet had him engaging in workplace sexual harassment, something that, as I showed in my 1993 book Queer in America, is common among closeted powerful men, who often are simply seeking outlets for sex. That was not only focused on in the Denny Terrio lawsuit against Griffin but also was something that several Hollywood gay men told me about, offering first hand experience, while I was researching Queer in America back in the early 90s and some of this (though, for legal reasons not all) is reported on in the book.

Finally, Griffin&#039;s closet had him firing gay men who&#039;d actually made it up through the ranks of his own company, simply because they were openly gay. There is a story in Queer in America about a man identified as &quot;The Mogul&quot; who did just that. I can now reveal that The Mogul is Merv Griffin. Open homosexuality is a threat to the closeted, and powerful people in the closet like Merv Griffin will often do whatever it takes to squash those who are open and who might advocate that all among the powerful should come out.

Merv Griffin accomplished a lot and is, in his death, being held up as a example of a stellar Hollywood businessman. But he should also be held up as man who, like Malcolm Forbes before him, was hugely influential and powerful and yet still allowed the closet and homophobia to manipulate his life, and to cause him to do harm to his own people. That should not be forgotten.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffin was irresistibly charming and his old talk show was like a feast of the best chocolate truffles and champagne because it featured all the greatest stars [read with TALENT not just flavors of the moment] who ever agreed to do TV.</p>
<p>BUT he was a Card Carrying Pig because not only did he not come out LONG after he was untouchable because of his wealth but also because I know of no evidence that he ever gave a dime of that billion to anything gay rights-related or AIDS related AND was one of the insufferable queens like Outsports Cyd Ziegler who thought Reagan, his close friend, was God.</p>
<p>Micheangelo Signorile described [and documented] him best:</p>
<p>&#8220;First off, Griffin&#8217;s closet kept him shockingly silent while he had access to the president of the United States as his own people were dying. This man was intimate with the Reagans (and Nancy Reagan in particular) during the height of the AIDS epidemic in 80s, with few treatments available and fear-mongering having gripped the media. Griffin&#8217;s gay brothers — his friends, his lovers, his people across America, around the world — suffered and met horrific deaths. And yet, because he was closeted it is highly unlikely he ever made the connection for the Reagans (between himself and those who were suffering and dying), pointed out the government negligence, or even talked openly as a gay person. They likely knew, but it was unspoken, and that allowed all involved to just rationalize things –to say to themselves that, well, Merv, is not like those other people, and to always believe that maybe it wasn&#8217;t true anyway, and that he was truly dating Eva Gabor. He also stayed silent about the epidemic in the media — ironic since he was a man very much at the center of the media industry and in shaping communications and television in this country — when his voice would have made a huge difference.</p>
<p>Secondly, Griffin&#8217;s closet had him engaging in workplace sexual harassment, something that, as I showed in my 1993 book Queer in America, is common among closeted powerful men, who often are simply seeking outlets for sex. That was not only focused on in the Denny Terrio lawsuit against Griffin but also was something that several Hollywood gay men told me about, offering first hand experience, while I was researching Queer in America back in the early 90s and some of this (though, for legal reasons not all) is reported on in the book.</p>
<p>Finally, Griffin&#8217;s closet had him firing gay men who&#8217;d actually made it up through the ranks of his own company, simply because they were openly gay. There is a story in Queer in America about a man identified as &#8220;The Mogul&#8221; who did just that. I can now reveal that The Mogul is Merv Griffin. Open homosexuality is a threat to the closeted, and powerful people in the closet like Merv Griffin will often do whatever it takes to squash those who are open and who might advocate that all among the powerful should come out.</p>
<p>Merv Griffin accomplished a lot and is, in his death, being held up as a example of a stellar Hollywood businessman. But he should also be held up as man who, like Malcolm Forbes before him, was hugely influential and powerful and yet still allowed the closet and homophobia to manipulate his life, and to cause him to do harm to his own people. That should not be forgotten.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Landon Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landon Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-159126&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matthew Rettenmund&lt;/a&gt;: 

Matt, you never saw Repo Man and heard those John Wayne rumors?  The movie&#039;s a classic! The Duke&#039;s real name was Marion, you know. 

But I agree with your basic point completely-- all of jibes with the facts as I know them.  I&#039;m not sure I believe the Ryan Seacrest as Merv&#039;s boy whore rumor, though.  Seacrest&#039;s not dead, so I guess this book won&#039;t cover it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-159126" rel="nofollow">Matthew Rettenmund</a>: </p>
<p>Matt, you never saw Repo Man and heard those John Wayne rumors?  The movie&#8217;s a classic! The Duke&#8217;s real name was Marion, you know. </p>
<p>But I agree with your basic point completely&#8211; all of jibes with the facts as I know them.  I&#8217;m not sure I believe the Ryan Seacrest as Merv&#8217;s boy whore rumor, though.  Seacrest&#8217;s not dead, so I guess this book won&#8217;t cover it.</p>
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		<title>By: KitKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>KitKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;And as any law student knows, you can&#039;t libel the dead. 

There are some interesting and untested legal theories for defamation of the dead. Personally, I like juicy gossip too much to want any of these theories upheld in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;And as any law student knows, you can&#8217;t libel the dead. </p>
<p>There are some interesting and untested legal theories for defamation of the dead. Personally, I like juicy gossip too much to want any of these theories upheld in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Rettenmund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Rettenmund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ending of this piece harping on how you can&#039;t libel the dead is passive-aggressive to the extreme. What part of any of this sounds made up? It all fits. If someone wrote a book posthumously outing John Wayne or something NOBODY had heard stories about, then I&#039;d get the doubting Thomas act. But this sounds perfectly legit to me.

Own it yourselves, Queerty! :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ending of this piece harping on how you can&#8217;t libel the dead is passive-aggressive to the extreme. What part of any of this sounds made up? It all fits. If someone wrote a book posthumously outing John Wayne or something NOBODY had heard stories about, then I&#8217;d get the doubting Thomas act. But this sounds perfectly legit to me.</p>
<p>Own it yourselves, Queerty! :0)</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I need a laugh, I&#039;ll probably read this.</description>
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