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Michael Signorile: Republicans Just Might Hate Mormons More Than Gays

But no matter how much Romney joins in the bullying of gays, he continues to get bullied himself by the same gang of thugs for being a Mormon. Romney didn’t show up at the Thanksgiving Family Forum in Iowa on Saturday because he didn’t want a repeat of what happened at the Values Voters Summit, where Rick Perry backer, Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress, called Mormonism a “cult” and told the media that Christians won’t vote for a Mormon. Only Perry, Jeffress said, could defeat “the most pro-homosexual, most pro-abortion president in history.”

Bob Vander Platts, the Iowa antigay activist and head of the Family Leader, which sponsored the forum, had said if Romney attended his Mormon faith would become an issue. So Romney stays away for fear he’ll be attacked for being a Mormon. And what does he get for staying away? He gets attacked for being a Mormon anyway.

– LGBT Journalist Michael Signorile discussing Republican distrust of Mormonism. Signorile later points out a study showing that half of white evangelical voters believe Mormonism is not a Christian religion.

Image via Gage Skidmore

By:           Daniel Villarreal
On:           Nov 23, 2011
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  • 30 Comments
    • Castorp
      Castorp

      Not only would most religious-right Republicans turn out to vote for Romney against Obama. They also would turn out to vote for a gay Clarence Thomas against Obama too. Don’t kid yourself.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 8:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Riker
      Riker

      @Castorp: Which is why Romney is the only sensible choice. The evangelicals will vote for him anyway, so he won’t be beholden to them. He’ll owe his office to the moderates, so he will be a moderate President.

      If by some freak chance Perry got elected, it would be because of the religious right, so he would do whatever they want.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 8:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tjr101
      tjr101

      We can always count on the GOP base being equal opportunity bigots, hate gays, blacks, Muslims and Latinos on one day and gays, blacks, Muslims, Latinos and Mormons on the next.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 9:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marlory
      marlory

      the GOP hates everyone

      OLD NEWS

      Nov 23, 2011 at 9:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CBRad
      CBRad

      Everybody knows hardcore Christians consider Mormonism a cult. Signorile thinks he’s telling us something new? (Next he’ll be revealing the hidden secret of Catholic versus Protestant hostility).

      Nov 23, 2011 at 9:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • geoff
      geoff

      @Riker: the sensible choice for whom? According to Russ Douthat (NYTIMES) Romney will get the nomination. But which Romney – the moderate republican gov. of MA or the even more moderate senate hopeful from MA. Now that he is running away from himself as fast as he can … who can know which Romney we will get. And there is the question of his allegiance to the morman elders. And Bain & Co. I’m afraid I’m afraid of Willard Romney and am hoping that independents are too.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 10:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Caliban
      Caliban

      Awwww, Mitt Romney is being bullied by the Fundies because he’s a Mormon? Seems to me there’s a phrase that’s applicable here, if I could just think of it. Oh, here it is. Tough Titty.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 10:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ewe
      ewe

      None of the Repuglykunts have convictions. they all turn on a dime. Shallow self serving hypocrites. They would step over your dead body without blinking.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 10:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChrisC
      ChrisC

      I’m so thankful Gay Rights wasn’t even a topic during our last election in Canada. Not to mention that all of the candidates, even the ones I didn’t like, were ones that I would be fine with getting into office. No screaming, No endless debates, No crazy commentators…well…except for Don Cherry, but he’s in his 70s so we just scoff at him like a demented Grandfather of sorts.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 11:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CBRad
      CBRad

      @ChrisC: Yeah, must be nice living in an all-white-and-Asian country.

      Nov 23, 2011 at 11:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Patsy Stoned
      Patsy Stoned

      Geoff is right, Romney is such a soulless, flip-flopping empty suit it is impossible to know exactly WHICH version is actually running.

      At this point I wonder if he even sees his own reflection when he passes a mirror.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 1:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mormons Are Christian
      Mormons Are Christian

      Mormons’ theology is based on New Testament Christianity, not Fourth Century Creeds. For example, the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) views on Baptism, Lay Ministry, the Trinity, Theosis, Grace vs. Works, the Divinity of Jesus Christ comport more closely with Early Christianity than any other denomination. And Mormons’ teenagers have been judged to “top the charts” in Christian Characteristics by a UNC-Chapel Hill study. Read about it here:

      http://MormonsAreChristian.blogspot.com

      Those who question if the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is a Christian denomination usually are mis-informed because New Testament Christianity is closer to Jesus Christ’s teachings than Fourth Century Creeds. Mormons have a better understanding of Christianity than any other denomination, according to a 2010 Pew Forum poll:

      http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx

      11 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence (including several presidents) were non-Trinitarian Christians. Those who now insist on their narrow Trinitarian and salvation only by grace definition of Christianity for candidates for public office are doing our Republic an injustice.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 3:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Phil
      Phil

      This just in: Republicans hate people who are slightly different.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 6:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Mormons Are Christian:

      You seem to have made a mistake. You were obviously scanning the internet on behalf of the church illicitly supporting the Romney campaign and thought you would post your little cut and paste here.

      What you seem to miss is that we don’t care how you define your religion. You are bigots and what you call youselves or who you associate with is irrelevant.

      You refused to allow blacks full membership in your church until around 1980 and only then because of intensely bad PR. You STILL segregate your wards by race “Unofficially of course” And your church illegally spent millions fighting against gay rights.

      You are a bigoted organization and your current behavior is more in line with the KKK than the benevolent flock your false TV ads would like to pretend. But…thanks for playing.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 11:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ted B. (Charging Rhino)
      Ted B. (Charging Rhino)

      Romney isn’t “a just Mormon”; he’s a Bishop in the hierarchy, not just one of the followers down in the pews. What bothers me is the authority of the Mormon Patriarch, and whether that 3am phone-call to the White House is from Salt Lake City.

      I’m not yet convinced that I trust a man sitting in the Oval Office who doesn’t own his own moral and ethical conscience, but who is answerable to the authority of another. Ultimately, the President of the United States is answerable to God and the People…not to the Patriarch and Elders in Salt lake City.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Caliban
      Caliban [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Bingo, Cam. And let’s not forget that Mormonism was invented by a convicted con-man. Joseph Smith was convicted of running a scam to find gold on people’s property using “seer stones.” The story of how he found the golden tablets and translated them is remarkably similar to the treasure hunting scam for which he was convicted. The LDS “church” is basically the Beta version of Scientology, a “religion” pulled straight out of a con man’s ass.

      The church is very wealthy though because tithing is enforced; members have to show their yearly earnings and their yearly tithe is assessed by a church official. If you don’t pay your church access is severely curtailed. They use that money to fund political campaigns (see: Romney, Mitt) and political initiatives and should have their tax exempt status revoked for their abuse of the separation between Church and State.

      While there may be a valid argument to be made that all religions are cults, the Mormons have taken it upon themselves to meddle in politics by funding campaigns to defeat the ERA Amendment back in the 70s and anti-gay political initiatives everywhere, most notably Prop 8 in California. I don’t think we’ll ever know the true extent of their financial and “volunteer” support of that campaign.

      And while we’re at it, Mormonism is “Christian” in that Jesus is in The Book Of Mormon, but only in the same way that “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies” is a Jane Austen novel. You wouldn’t recognize him from the original.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 1:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Caliban:

      1. You referenced their attack on the ERA and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies in the same post. Best comment of the week! LOL

      Nov 24, 2011 at 6:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Henry
      Henry

      @ewe: They’re all effeminate and passive-aggressive like you. The most the Rethuglikkkans can do is attack gay rights and then claim they’re being persecuted for it, like Rick Perry, the GOP’s top white hound.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 7:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChrisC
      ChrisC

      @CBRad: We have all races here. You wish you lived here. Health Care and Full Equality. Suck on that.

      Nov 24, 2011 at 8:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @ChrisC:

      Lets not get too cocky. Not all of us are unaware of some of the problems our friends to the North have. Crazyniess from Alberta Politics, massive crime in Vancouver, some issues with the native tribes claiming discrimination, issues with the Hydro power sources etc…

      So yes, the equality and healthcare are good, but just calm down a bit. ;)

      Nov 24, 2011 at 8:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the crustybastard
      the crustybastard

      @CBRad: “Everybody knows hardcore Christians consider Mormonism a cult.”

      I consider Mormonism a cult, and I’m the furthest thing from a hardcore Christian.

      Mormons rival Scientologists for “Religion with the Highest Absolute Quotient of Vindictive Batshittery.”

      Nov 25, 2011 at 4:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CBRad
      CBRad

      @the crustybastard: I never said others don’t also consider Mormons a cult.

      Nov 25, 2011 at 5:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CBRad
      CBRad

      @ChrisC: You have all kinds of races, of course. But the majority is white. The minorities are almost entirely Asian. No, I don’t wish I lived in Canada, but I do like it (especially Quebec).

      Nov 25, 2011 at 5:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ruhlmann
      Ruhlmann

      @Cam: I lived in Vancouver for seventeen years and there is not a neighbourhood I couldn’t walk through at all times of the day and night, including Main and Hastings. Massive crime? That made me laugh. Alberta is like Texas in terms of it’s conservatism. Two years in Edmonton and two in Grande Prairie and I never saw what I would describe as political craziness. You will have to give me an example.

      We have been in a thirty year process of righting our abuse of our First Nations people. Of course we will never be able to give back what we took from them but we build them homes at no cost, they do not pay any form of tax and any Bands located on reserves having mineral wealth are compensated for said wealth. As an aside, two of my brothers are married to First Nation women who are both lawyers. Perhaps you can give me an example of your Federal or state governments that are assisting your native peoples.

      Canada isn’t Eden, but honestly “political craziness” in Alberta? Even conservatives in Alberta would never let religion or at least the appearence of religious affiliation be the primary reason they vote for a candidate. When a candidate starts spouting religion we vote for the other guy, and having three main and four or five regional parties to choose from we ensure the country doesn’t become polarized into two extreme ideologies.

      Educate yourself for christsakes.

      Nov 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Ruhlmann: said..

      “@Cam: I lived in Vancouver for seventeen years and there is not a neighbourhood I couldn’t walk through at all times of the day and night, including Main and Hastings. Massive crime? That made me laugh.

      ________________________________

      Really, because the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. Recently reported on a study conducted by the British Columbia Progress Board that named Vancouver as having the third worst crime IN NORTH AMERICA. Not in Canada, but on the entire continent. So on A continent with cities like Mexico City and Detroit, Vancouver is in the top three for crime. Here is the link.

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/12/16/bc-progress-board-report-crime-poverty.html#ixzz18KNSVEIk

      ________________________________________-

      You also said…..”Perhaps you can give me an example of your Federal or state governments that are assisting your native peoples.”

      That would be the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which you could look up easily at http://www.bia.gov

      ___________________________________________

      And as for your statement that I should educate myself and there is no political craziness, and that if anybody mentions religion etc… you just vote for the other guy…. Really?

      Well then isn’t it funny that the courts have been blasted by SITTING members of the Canadian Parliament for interfering in religion and that govt. employees should NOT have to issue marriage licenses to gays if it is against their religion. http://www.ottawasun.com/news/canada/2011/01/11/16849806.html

      The one thing left I have to figure out is this. Are you a liar and just trying to blindly defend Canada or do you really know so little about your own country? Canada is great, but people like you coming in, lying about basic facts and making comments like “Well my relative married somebody native so it’s all better” are just foolish.

      Nov 26, 2011 at 9:21 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LOVE it!
      LOVE it!

      I love that the fabulously wealthy born-into-money proud-to-be-homophobic Romney is getting destroyed by his party’s own bigotry!

      He’s the natural choice, rationally, to be their candidate… but all of his achievements, all his ideas, all his money means NOTHING! They look at him and see a filthy Mormon who is damned to hell.

      How ironic — Romney leveraging homophobia to rocket to the top, only to have bigotry destroy his chances. Stew in it Mitt! Enjoy it! You’ve earned it.

      Nov 26, 2011 at 10:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      How long are the Mormons going to stick with a party that hates them? They used to be democrats and more supportive of unions, but switched over to the GOP not that long ago. Just curious how long a group will stay with a party that openly hates them and says they won’t vote for one of them.

      Nov 27, 2011 at 5:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • xander
      xander

      Romney ‘s GOP ‘allies’ will pick a fundy Christian over a Mormon any day*…How could Mitt not know this? The only prayer he’s got (Ha!) is that if he’s the only one who could beat “atheist” Obama.

      *Ever since the hard-right xters took over his party, that is.

      Nov 27, 2011 at 6:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Queer Supremacist
      Queer Supremacist

      Republican or Democrat, the only good Mormon is an ex-Mormon.

      Nov 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Doe
      Doe

      and gays hate blacks and Hispanics more than Republicans..

      May 12, 2012 at 6:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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