This is Josh Peters. He is a model. He can be seen here, wearing very few clothes and barely obscuring his penis with his hand. This morning, we featured him in our daily Morning Goods slot. This afternoon, he emailed us:
Subject: Remove me now
“I am getting Sick of finding myself on these stupid gay sites.”
Certainly, it’s every model’s right to want to choose where he appears. It’s also utterly ridiculous for a male model to agree to near-naked photographs that barely cover his penis and then not expect gay men might have an interest in taking a peek. So we replied: “You’re a male model who poses naked grabbing his dick and finds it surprising that gay men like to look? You’re surely making the ‘male models are idiots’ stereotype come true.”
Mr. Peters responded: “I don’t care.”
How about we take this to the next level?
Our newsletter is like a refreshing cocktail (or mocktail) of LGBTQ+ entertainment and pop culture, served up with a side of eye-candy.
We’ve complied with Mr. Peters’ request to have his photos removed from Queerty. But not before reminding all casting directors and model agencies out there — many of whom, you won’t be surprised to know, are gay and gay-operated, and read this site daily — of Mr. Peters’ feelings toward the gay community.
(On Mr. Peters ModelMayhem.com profile, meanwhile, he writes: “I am with an agency in london cosmic models. There okay for now, but ideally want a better agency.” Good luck with that.)
Update: Peters writes in again: “I guess you have to be a bumboy to find what you put on that site funny. you think a model is stupid? Well i think your [sic] the stupid one, you should know you cant write an article with my photo that is copywrited [sic] by my photographer.” We’ll let the accusation of upholding the “male models are stupid” stereotype stand without further comment.
Joey
Look a new guy! Now people can stop talking about this Brent fellow.
Suburban
very nice….and everyone else will have nothing but complaints!!
PJ
I don’t know if I am “in love,” but I have a serious case of lust going on here.
Tom
body gets an 8, face a 4.
faghag
ewwwwwwwwwwwww
has this guy never heard of manscaping?
Bob R
I live in an area where Josh is a very popular name. I don’t recall ever meeting an ugly Josh, although I’m sure there must be a few. Well, this particular Josh is thin, but fun I would imagine. The boy also has huge feet. If that means anything.
John
Omfg! Those hips are making me cry.
Okie
Lately the Morning Goods choices make me feel like Mr. Herbert from The Family Guy, “Would You Like To Come In For A Cupcake And A Glass Of Wine”?
Ray
click, save, click, save, click, save
mark
I’d lick that
mark
Ray,
You trip him, and I’ll break his fall
[smiles]
hardmannyc
Too lanky for my taste, but def’ly a nice package. Great face. Interesting not just pretty.
donsnyc
A horse walks into a bar, the bartender asks “Why the long face?”
GranDiva
And there you have it.
Matt
He looks like a douche bag and apparently acts like one too.
CitizenGeek
Nice one, Queerty!
Paul Raposo
He writes this on his Model Mayhem site:
“Im really easy to work with, Willing to try anything, Exept full frontal nudity, I am a model not a pornstar! lol.”
Shithead.
Paul Raposo
Oh, Josh, if you want a war, I’m happy to give you one, you rat faced little shit. Start looking for a new job.
As far as shit kicking, I’ll be in the UK in May of 2009. You will be the first person I look up, boy.
Suburban
hey JP. Why are you even on this site and why did you waste your time posting here. I guess calling us faggots makes you fell better, grow up asshole.
WickedGayBlog.com
What a shame (and a bad career move) he had such a homophobic reaction to being on one of the best and most professional gay sites on the net. Sites like Queerty could help catapult his career not hurt it.
Dave, WGB
Eminent Victorian
Josh, why did you get into modeling before knowing how it would be? You have a marketable look, but your agent or agency is really letting you down by not giving you specific guidance and advice about the world of modeling in general. That beings with “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” It’s too bad that your bigotry is what will now likely prevent you from making any money in the field, as LGBT folks are some of the major movers and shakers therein. You’re clearly young and not yet up on some of the ways of the world. Learn quick, or have a good backup plan.
Eminent Victorian
Erm, I meant “begins” . . .
John Santos
Here’s how to contact Josh’s management:
email: [email protected]
Phone: 02075668359
“CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR!”
Katy...
Lets respect every individual’s choice of where his/hers photographs are used. Just because he’s appeared near-nude, holding/covering his penis, and just because it is sexually suggestive to the homosexual community, doesn’t mean he HAS to be okay with it. I mean, since when is it mandatory for a male model to be okay, by choice or not, with gay websites using his pictures only because he’s posing near-nude. Come on, lets be mature, and not take his modeling skills, suggestive or not, for granted. Thanks.
Rob Moore
He has a nice body, but his pictures on Model Mayhem show a young man who has angry eyes. I read his profile and suppose if he wants to be financially successful, his best option might be modeling. He can’t spell and shows a fair degree of ignorance of basic English grammar.
I certainly hope he doesn’t let insecurity and anger gain control of his responses to life. If he does, he will be at high risk of general failure and might stumble down the same path as Amy Winehouse.
John Santos
It seems Cosmic Models is a division of Elite Associates, whose Director is one Jon Blaze.
Email: [email protected]
I also find it funny, that after contacting Cosmic, that this Katy appears and defends Josh’s anti-gay comments.
Well, Katy, it’s not about where a models hand is placed, or where his pictures are placed; it’s that model’s anti-gay–even homophobic–attitude.
Now if you want the full rage of a couple of gays to rain down on you, then by all means please allow Josh to keep up his anti-gay comments. But I guess that Paul and I will not be alone in our condemnation of you and your company.
Now, as the editor pointed out, many gay men work in the industry that employs models. Does a fledging company really want to be known as one that employs anti-gay male models who find gay bashings humorous?
Answer up, Katy.
Eminent Victorian
Katy, if he had simply emailed to request his photos be taken down that would be a different matter entirely. Instead, he included barbs and epithets. I most certainly do NOT have to respect his choice to dislike gay people.
Ray
click, delete, click, delete, click, delete
afrolito
Good for all of you losers who drooled over his pics this morning. LMFAO!
Double loser to anyone with enough time on their hands to call or email his agency over this non issue.
Lexy
Who ELSE but gay men would be interested in these photographs? What an irritatingly stupid twat this guy is.
Anyway, Morning Goods is dumb. Scrap it and you won’t have to deal with idiot pretty boys like Josh. None of the other blogs I read feels the need to pepper daily news stories with softcore filler.
M Shane
I would just quit modeling ; You can’t imagine how humiliating it is to get your ass kicked by a faggot; some people love it; my guess is that josh likes being tied up and fucked, maybe fisted.
John Santos
Good for all of you losers who drooled over his pics this morning. LMFAO!
Double loser to anyone with enough time on their hands to call or email his agency over this non issue.
The only non-issue here is your comment, afro.
M Shane
It’s interesting that Josh would have just passed by here.(Like so much gas) Got to be a fag too.
Evan
Awwww, what a little pussy he is.
Heh.
I personally thought he was okay, but kind of a dime a dozen.
Evan
And, actually, his face?
He’s “that guy” at trendy gay bars who really, really thinks he’s the shit, who tells himself that people don’t approach him because he’s just, “you know, unapproachable, and anyway, I’m really picky.”
Meanwhile, the rest of the world keeps spinning while he’s throwing up the box of Thin Mints he inhaled two hours before.
John Santos
Hmm…Josh has been hard at work. It seems his pics also appeared on this blog this month:
5starman.blogspot.com/2008/09/josh-peters.html
And now the blog posting is gone and so is the cache.
M Shane
Playing hard to get! cute.
Eminent Victorian
You can still make money in porn, Josh. Just: no speaking parts, eh.
John Santos
Playing hard to get! cute.
Yeah, but he missed one; a French site. I won’t post the link because I like the idea of little Joshie squirming over the idea of French bumboys dribbling over his pics.
No
you should post his email address, and let your readers give him a piece of there minds.
No 4
The model isn’t the only stupid person apparently. A lot of you need to learn which version of: your, you’re, their, there, they’re to use when writing comments about a stupid model.
Sam
Eh, out of all the hot morning goods that have been posted so far, there is always going to be at least one bad one.
Keep up the good work, Queerty. It makes my day so much better.
To Josh: You should feel privileged that you were posted on this blog because gay men are very picky when it comes to our likes and dislike, especially if they have bad or homophobic attitude. Plus, you should have your photos out for the world to see if you don’t want them posted somewhere else EVEN THOUGH anything posted on the Internet is free game. On a final note, spell and grammar check does exist. Use it before you make yourself look fooli….too late.
michael
What a fucking idiot. If anyone finds out how to e-mail him I say post it some where, but we can start with his agency, letting then know there will be a campaign against him. We need to become very aware of his face so that when we see him representing a product we can contact the company, He does not deserve success
and its the public that makes his career, of which he has highly insulted.
scott
give him a few years and Jake Cruise will be posting some different pics on Jake’s site.
I agree with Katy, he doesn’t have to like it but sadly, he’s a kid with no idea of how to handle situations. And on top of that he’s a homophobe prick.
Kudos to John Santos for going the extra mile. I wouldn’t have done it. He’s nada to me. Evil people will exist and there’s nothing much one can do about it. IE. Palin.
michael
I just wrote his agency to tell them of what I think of Mr. Peters and of his comments that he has made here. In fact I would hope that all who read these comments do the same. Cosmic model uk is also a subsid. of Elite. Also let your friends know about him. The piece of shit deserves to pick up garbage for a living. I expect him to apologize but we all know it will be a self serving apologize designed to try to save his career.
LikaStarr
@ JP – How long before I have to take the photo off my site? I hope you enjoy the accompanying article 😉
To make it easy for you, the post title is “Morning Douche – Josh Peters”
Jack
Mmm, literate, isn’t he?
‘Im really easy to work with, Willing to try anything, Exept full frontal nudity, I am a model not a pornstar! lol.’
Well, Josh, if you can fit your tiny cock into your clammy little hand, you wouldn’t stand much chance of being a porn star anyway.
‘I am constatly having to search myself on the net to find myself on sites…’
I guess wanking over yourself in the mirror isn’t enough, then?
‘…and everyone who has helped me become what I am, I would be nowhere without you all!!!’
Well I’d find some new friends, because what you are is a twat.
dvlaries
I’ve got no use the little creep either – a little better looking than one or two of last week, but the [i]fourth[/i] morning goods in a row with no ass shot, including whatshisname the porn star. But you’re the ones, queerty, who like shoveling them in here when they look just past the age of jailbait. Sooner or later, one of them was going to turn into a little Brenda and serve you shit like this.
Dick Mills
I can already see the next email:
Peters writes, “I’m not SIC, your the SIC ones!”
Sorry, I just couldn’t stop myself!
Tim
Wow, just wow. Bumboy huh? Nice slur there Mr. male model bigot. Hate much? This illiterate once again proves that ignorance and bigotry walk hand in hand. Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to hate. What a pitiful, sad way to lead an imitation of life.
John
I’ve carefully reappraised, drool and all. I now think he is not “deliciously narrow-hipped” but “boney-assed” instead.
Rough trade who pose for nudies like these have always been a problem for gay men. Maybe he’s from a troubled background, so if he recants, I’ll reappraise and send him my contact info.
Gary G
He has a better body than most guys in his native New Hampshire, but with the same inbred kind of face.
Joseph
Alright! So, he might be a “little” homophobic, when the initial publication went down. Fine, but, to pay particular attention to the “Queer Site” all day long? Well, that to me shows a deep routed hatred towards Uncle Bob… that made me feel the way I do today!
michael
Hey everybody look at No 4! Another Queen hooked on phonics!
Walsingham
Oh. He doesn’t want gay fans?
Well.
I’ll certainly try to keep that in mind tonight, as I repeatedly take him in a manly fashion, before I go to sleep.
ms
Queerty, your not the only one making phone calls about this guy.
The only work he will be getting in the future is that of a bum boy
being gang banged in a 3rd rate porn video. Obviously Mr. Peters
is a very angry, self destructive person. Oh well, if thats what he is trying to achieve, I will just have to help him along!
marcus
I just saw some of his pics. he oozes anger and of course from his post above he obviously is. I wonder if he was raped by his father or someone close as a child and now projects that hatred upon gays. Its funny, because here he is, making photos that he damn well knows is going to be looked at by more gays than straights, cause most straight women don’t care about these sort of photos. He trying,well was trying, to enter a profession that is full of gays. Its like he is trying to recreate the scene of the crime. Well I hate to tell you, but none of us are your Daddy and your not a little boy anymore Josh, so go get some help and stop trying to seduce men to get your needs met, cause that is exactly what you are attempting to do for a living.
Key
Wow, naive much? Fans are a precious commodity granted to a special few. They can make you – or break you. Poor Peters is about to get a taste of the breaking part I wonder if he’s big enough to survive the fallout, somehow I doubt it.
Alan down in Florida
Josh Peters – Coming soon to brokestraightboys.com and a host of other rough trade straight boys laying pipe websites everywhere on the Internet.
At least Leighton Stultz can pretend that he thought Playgirl was intended for straight women. RFLMAO.
kayce.
omg, he is such a lil femme… aww. sucks to be in the closet i guess.
Jack Scribe
First, please review comment #18 by ‘JP’. This is a reminder of the hateful homophobes who would do physical damage to gay men…if they had the chance. Second, Josh is such a naive fool. Bu-bye.
That he doesn’t realize how the male modeling game works is sad – for him. Benjamin, Chad, Kerry…I have no idea what their sexual orientation is, but they appreciate their gay fan base.
Rikard
Someone set this douche up with a little “Come to Janice” meeting with Ms Dickenson, She will tell him where the bears s#!t. I’d love to see her let him talk just long enough to prove how clueless he is, then cut him off with a few choice words and dismiss him.
Ken
Obviously, he needs to a) learn to use spellcheck and b) get a PR person. Usually, people only turn into assholes after they become famous. I guess someone forgot to tell him that rule. And one more “[sic]” you missed: can’t is a contraction so it deserves an apostrophe. And if you’re going to throw around hate in a comment, don’t be stupid enough to make the same grammatical errors so everyone can tell who you are.
I don’t have to be psychic to tell that someones career days are numbered…
Brendan
He might want to use a spellchecker, or learn English. Maybe if he wasn’t so stupid-sounding, he’d get better gigs. Then again, maybe if he wasn’t so prejudiced, he’d get better gigs. I hope this is the only hype he ever gets.
I guess you can’t be both gorgeous and a nice person. Or can you?
Geoffrey
Never heard of the guy before….doubt anyone will in the future. A model turning down free press and a (potentially) devoted fan block? Apparently this particular model really is, ‘stupid’.
Lucky Pierre
We all know why JB is here. He likes looking at the boys, but he hates himself for it. Poor sad little closet case.
jheryn
Apart from his obvious grammatical ineptitude and his cogent arguments that any mentally handicapped goldfish would envy, Mr. Peters seems to have laid to rest all pretense that would lead us to believe that the stereotypical model is obtuse.
I am cognizant that Mr. Peter’s pedagogic abilities are more than likely stunted, so I will explain some of the words I have used above and below. I, in no possible way, want him to become frustrated when he attempts to digest my thoughts. I will even try to misspell words so he does not feel he was discriminated against.
Grammatical = Knowin’ where to put all them periods and commas and stuff. Also puttin’ the big letters at the start of sentences and that kind of stuff. Good spellin’ too.
Ineptitude = Someone who ain’t no good at sumthin’
Cogent = Sumthin’ said that was said real good like so that even Bubba when he’s drunk could understand it.
Pretense = Big ol’ lie
Stereotypical = Clichéd (Oops! Sorry! Another big word with an accent mark as well! We can’t have that!) Try “You know how most people think all cows look alike but that ain’t true cuz a few of ‘em look different.â€
Obtuse = stoopid
Cognizant = knowin’ somethin’
Pedagogic = Book learnin’
Stunted = Comin’ up short
Frustrated = Like how mad ya get people use all them high-falootin’ words.
Discriminated = That’s like when people treat you bad and think you’re stupid just because you’re a male model or when you are actually one of those truly stupid male modes who uses words like “bumboy†and “stupid gay sites.â€
Have a nice day Mr. Peters.
spiffy
Pardon my ignorance; but I thought only the photographers have the say in whether the pics stay since they have the copyrights? If a model signs a release for the shots, he or she no longer has any claim on what the photographer will do with the pics, including publishing them online or otherwise?
Ryan
It’s amazing how you can have one friend at a fashion advertising agency, and you can email them a name and a comment, and then they can be struck stupid by both the absurdity of the comment and also the sheer career ending pugnacity of it. Then they can email every other person they know in the fashion industry and turn it into a self fufilling prophecy. So a hearty round of applause for the rousing photo session that these pictures came from, because aside from Wal-Mart catalogues and Sears, that is pretty much all she wrote for this fine young man’s venture into being a model.
Sometimes I love living in London. You meet the most interesting people in gay bars.
Dani
Wow… this guy may be a tool but you lot sure manage to sound even more unpleasant and hateful than him. Talk about stooping to his level.
Cuz_I'm_The_Mom
They’re always so cute…until they can’t communicate with proper punctuation, grammar, or spelling.
And, BTW, jheryn? You’re givin’ me lady wood, hon. Just a lil’ bit.
BillyBob Thornton
I have emailed both addresses, notifying them of my feelings, and how I express my feelings to any company that utilizes his services or anyone like him. If I get a response, I shall be surprised. I also let them know that a PR apology isn’t enough, nor is sending him to learn “sensitivity” toward others that are different than him. That is all bullsh*t. It only means that he would be sorry he got caught being a homophobic bigot.
I certainly hope that everyone who learns of his behaviour and feel as stronly as I do, contacts his agency, and notify any business they find that uses him. Please pass along information to everyone you know who is receptive.
BillyBob Thornton
My email to [email protected], was returned for “no MX or A records” The sites says it’s under construction and comsic models site says it’s also under costruction. Wonder if they took it down, because of all the response? Don’t know.
themercer
How do we even know that Josh Peters is the one writing this stuff? And even if it is him, most of these guys are only attractive until they open their mouths anyway. Once their thoughts are voiced or on paper… total turnoff.
dani
I also let them know that a PR apology isn’t enough, nor is sending him to learn “sensitivity” toward others that are different than him.
I feel a bit tempted to file a complaint, too. It will read something like this:
“One of your 18 year old models didn’t appreciate the fact that we took his photos without his consent to feature him in the quick morning wank section of a widely read gay website. His behavior was insensitive and discriminating and we expect a public flogging. (And take pictures, please.)â€
He will learn his lesson.
julian
If he’d been respectful and said “hey, can you take my photos down for copyright purposes?” I’m sure no one would have minded. It’s all the homophobic comments that accompanied the request that’s the problem. I mean, seriously. This guy is infuriating.
john musson
I should declare an interest in this ‘debate’as the photographer who shot the image which still heads this blog page, despite the model’s request for his images to be removed.
First things first : the images were lifted from Josh ( the model’s ) model mayhem site without his or my consent, despite the ease with which this could have been requested. This is the issue which simply hasn’t been addressed – for obvious reasons – by the blog team. Creative property rights are there for a reason – to protect the property of parties involved. Retrospectively I received an email from the editor ( look, wasn’t so difficult was it? ) asking for permission to use the images, as I was informed that the blog was running a profile on the model concerned. No mention whatsoever of the context to this ‘profile’, an omission which could be considered at best disingenuous, at worst mendacious.
Beyond that issue though, let’s look at whether the model actually had a right to feel aggrieved at the comments his stolen photos received. Bearing in mind this is a young newbie model with little experience either of the gay world or of the exposure provided by the modelling industry, comments posted – before you guys started to get nasty! – included:
Body gets an 8, face a 4
Has this guy never heard of manscaping?
The boy has huge feet if that means anything
I’d lick that.
You trip him, I’ll break his fall
He looks like a douchebag
Imagine similar comments directed by a group of straight men at a young female model. Is there really very much difference? As gay men ( yes, I am one of the species too!) doesn’t it say a lot about how we’ve become desensitised in our dealings with other men that we can post these sorts of comments with utter disregard for the feelings of the individuals involved?
So the model lashed out, I imagine trying to regain some sort of control over his own image. His comments;
‘ people would laugh at you and kick the shit out of you, so you sit here and dribble over guys’.
were obviously not something I condone. The tone was aggressive and insulting. Yet, on a literal level, don’t they contain a kernel of truth? There is still homophobia out in the big wide world. The blog represents an oasis away from that, an opportunity for some sort of gay solidarity and community. So why are we using it largely for bitchery and sleazy objectification? We all like looking at well-taken photos of great-looking models and passing comment, but are the above comments really appropriate? And as to the accusation that the model’s comments advocated gay-bashing, well that’s about as convincing as suggesting that the ‘you trip him, I’ll break his fall’ post was advocating gay gang-rape. A little perspective required, I think.
And then the floodgates opened. Why did so much venom spume? Suddenly Josh the Adonis was Josh the stupid, illiterate, ugly, angry-looking, closet-case no-hoper. His spelling and grammar were for some inexplicable reason picked to pieces. ( Is this how we gay guys build our self-esteem? By proving laboriously that our composition skills are superior to the hetero’s? Not really a compelling moral argument!.)
As far as I’m concerned Josh said something stupid because he was angry, and didn’t have the metrosexual sophistication to deal with the situation. Ironically most models, however homophobic, would know to voice the platitudes of having gay friends and being flattered by the attentions of gay men as part of their role in the model-fan cash nexus, whereas in his naivety and frustration I truly believe Josh did something tantamount to the reverse – expressing aggressive opinions he didn’t actually hold. He is a genuinely pleasant young guy, and during our shoot was entirely relaxed being photographed by a gay male photographer. He has found the ensuing maelstrom deeply upsetting, and has personally apologised to me for it over the phone and by email. I quote:
’I’m not homophobic. What I said was insulting to gay men, but that was because I knew it would piss them off. ….I just resorted to something I knew would get to them because I couldn’t do anything else.’
So guys, it’s up to us! Do we make this into a witch hunt? Scapegoat an eighteen year old who got inappropriately angry about his image being appropriated and made the target of sleazy, sexually suggestive comments? Or do we actually see this as an opportunity to analyse his and our own behaviour, ditch our PC self-righteousness and come to realise some of our own shortcomings?
And now – a note to the editor – please take down this photo, and in future please ask!
BillyBob Thornton
Re: Dani’s comments
“One of your 18 year old models didn’t appreciate the fact that we took his photos without his consent to feature him in the quick morning wank section of a widely read gay website. His behavior was insensitive and discriminating and we expect a public flogging. (And take pictures, please.)â€
I respect your opinion, however I strongly disagree with his word choices. I DO however expect the agency to educate their models regarding what can and probably will happen when suggestive, erotic photos are published. And teach them the proper way of dealing with it. Unless they are complete idiots, they know that sites such as this one are going to be interested, and that people will comment both positively and negatively on them.
Perhaps it was in anger as John Musson says in his post. Well, I don’t know about your situation Mr. Musson, but I have been at the receiving end of horrible, homophic comments and even felt in physical danger at times. And most of them were when I was young, and the perpetrators were young. No wonder some in our community feel compelled to lash back in the way they do. What do you expect when we feel our guts being ripped apart by another comment, whether it was meant to hurt or not?
I say to him, please tell Josh to prove himself to not only the GLBT community but to others and go beyond a well phrased public apology written by the media department of the agency or take a simple short course in sensitivity training. A reputation is hard earned and easily lost. He can earn my respect, but I won’t just simply give him a pass because of his youth or lack of experience. Bigotry is an affront to all of us, and just because he is young, doesn’t mean that he isn’t bigoted.
Remember, every time we stand up and say ENOUGH, another closeted person is one step closer to being freed.
If another person does the same or similiar thing, I will respond in the same manner that I did when I read about Josh.
LikaStarr
@ John Musson
I want to say that I appreciate and admire your work as a photographer very much. But I find some of what you said here condescending to the nature of your business.
When anyone, even a model, becomes a public figure by putting themselves out there as Josh Peters did he or she is subject to whatever people think of them. It comes with the territory and if he can’t handle it, then it’s his problem and not ours. As they say, it is part of the job.
Your comments about the sexually abrasive remarks before things turned ugly holds no water whatsoever. Straight men do say those things about women every hour and every day of the week. It’s no different no matter how morally wrong it may be. Just because you don’t agree with it (neither do I) doesn’t mean it will ever stop. It also doesn’t mean that Josh Peters should be an exception to this; again it comes with the profession he chose.
It’s almost as if you don’t realize your own photos sell sexuality. I know you do, but please even you of all people must know that a lot of men can be very raw when it comes to expressing their sexual fantasies and that’s exactly what most of those comments were. The exceptions being the rating and big feet comments but even those are a form of judgment. Are you also saying that viewers don’t have the right judge a model? You or the model can’t say “you don’t have the right to look at my photos unless you’ve got something nice to say.†Not all of us are mama’s boys.
I don’t think you would have wasted your time writing this if you weren’t the photographer in this case. As far as copyright goes, the laws are there for good reason. But if it weren’t for blogs spreading photos around the internet then there’s a good chance that most photographers and models wouldn’t ever see an inkling of popularity.
You and I both know that most photographers and models really don’t mind their work being “lifted†because it spreads their work. That is until something turns sour. Where is the fairness in that? The only fairness is that it gives you the right to pull the plug when you see fit and that’s cool as far as damage control. But you also run the risk of losing that right when it becomes a news story.
To clarify, I have no hard feelings against you and I do respect your work and opinion. This is simply my opinion, I am by no means lashing out at you.
dani
Re: Billy Bob Thornton:
I respect your opinion, however I strongly disagree with his word choices.
I do, too, don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t defending him at all. As I said i think he’s a tool and his tone was utterly inappropriatel, but he’s just some teenager, you know? I just can’t get too worked up over this. As I said before, we should know better and not stoop to this level. Like trying our hardest to ruin his career. Thanks for responding, that reply was more reflective than most of the other comments. I just feel uncomfortable around all the hate and name calling, that’s not gonna solve anything.
I still think he has a beautiful, toned body and should be proud of it and not worry so much about WHO appreciates it, or if any of his relatives could see it. But some of the comments John Musson qtoted WERE sleazy and dismissive.
jheryn
After reading the photographer’s comments, I feel compelled to respond.
Mr. Musson was very eloquent in his address of the issue. I respect his opinion but take exception to some of his positions, particularly as a gay man.
Humans are sexual creatures. We all have differing tastes and desires. That is a fact of life. Maybe some are more overt in airing their thoughts, but we all have them.
Many of the comments left by readers reflect their thoughts, suggestive or otherwise, on a public photo. It is indeed a picture that was taken to expose Mr. Peters to the world. It was in no way meant to be a private photo for his own enjoyment. Putting yourself in the public arena invites scrutiny as well as praise. If the model cannot handle that, then he has two choices in my opinion: 1. Deal with it and get over it. or 2. Find another profession.
I would retract everything I said in my post above, if anyone could ever convince me that Josh Peters has not made similar comments about women.
As far as his intolerant and bigoted remarks, there is no excuse whatsoever for uttering such tripe. His young age, anger and lack of sophistication are laughable as justification for his discriminatory words. We have all said things in anger we may regret, but that does not mean that we should not be held accountable for them.
His grammatical prowess is equally up for judgment as far as I am concerned. If you want to make an public written attack, then expect people to fight back and use whatever weapons are at their disposal. If you want to make derogatory remarks about people and use insulting language doing it, then expect backlash. Because he chose to take the fight to a written forum, then his literary skills are as much at risk for scrutiny as his arguments. It isn’t as if we can carry on a vocal debate with him.
One last observation. Mr. Musson you said that Mr. Peters sent you the following:
’I’m not homophobic. What I said was insulting to gay men, but that was because I knew it would piss them off. ….I just resorted to something I knew would get to them because I couldn’t do anything else.’
He knew with full understanding that he was going to insult gay men as a whole with his words. It was deliberate and calculated. By his own admission, he said those things with intent to inflict harm. Many of the above posters, including myself, reacted in kind. I have not one ounce of remorse for responding as I did. I personally made no comments about him before I learned of his correspondence with this site. It was not until I was insulted simply because of my sexuality by this prejudiced and immature young man, that I felt the need for comment. He meant to insult me simply because I am gay. Shame on you for using those words to defend him.
If you truly believe that Mr. Peters is a decent person, then help him out. Teach him to respect. Explain manners. Define discrimination. Be blunt and tell him to grow up. Most of all, tell him that he deserved the reactive comments.
jp
This is me Josh peters, I have a few things to explaine to the queerty readers I have offended.
Iv already sent an email to Queerty apologising to the website for homophobic attitude. I am not a homophobe at all. This webssite drove me to say things I knew would get to them, because of their un-proffesional response to my polite email asking them to remove me from this website.
however they did not tell what they said to me, did they?
What queerty hasnt informed all your readers was the orgninal email i sent to them which was polite and curtious. They then responed with offensive attitude. Which then made me angry, as they wernt being proffesional, when I was trying to be.
I have no problem with gay men in any way.
iv worked with mostly gay men, and they have helped me so much, the very photographers helping me through this, are gay, and are great people. I also appreiciate any kind of support gay or straight.
I wouldnt have minded being on this website, however queerty didnt even ask or inform me of being on it. I found it by googling my name after a photographer warned me of this kind of thing. Now from a models point of view, you can see why i was angry, yes? Granted I over-reacted due to queerty’s un-proffesial behaviour.
Queerty have not published my apology that i sent via email to them, probably because they love the fact people are hating me, and they get people on there website more.
So i will put it here myself.
[email protected]
I apologise to anyone i offended, it was because I had nothing else to do but lash out at queerty for stealing copywrited images, and not taking them down, and instead insulting male models.
I am only just 18, and been modeling for a year.
I had no experience in dealing with this kind of thing.
feel free to email me in response to this comment. I will reply back, unless Im being sent abuse which i am expecting. But for those of you who understand and accept my apology. I will be happy to talk to you.
Josh x
its me
sik sick sick
Mark
Well thank you Mr. Josh Peters. That was very nice of you.
BillyBob Thornton
Mr. Josh Peters,
Thank you for the letter. It’s obvious to me that you put thought into it and that you actually wrote it. I do believe it to be sincere, however once something is said, it’s very hard to take it back or prove you didn’t actually mean it.
If I knew you well, I might have felt as Mr Musson does or I might not. But I don’t know you, neither do the others who have reacted so vehemently when they found out(I include myself in that group).
It’s difficult for straight people to understand what it’s like to go through what most of us have, the hatred, sometimes physical violence, and even some have been murdered because we are different. So we react the only way we can. By our words, and sometimes they are very sharp and vindictive. And by not patronizing people who support bigotry and hatred towards us.
Your letter is a big step in the right direction. But if you really mean it, please don’t stop there. Do something positive now. If it teaches just one person to be more tolerant and accepting, then will have done something wonderful. Show us you really mean it. We are forgiving, if we believe you.
Josh Peters
Thank you for those who have taken thier time to read what i had to say. for those who dont care, I understand why.
This is not an attept to save my career, as someone on here once said i would do.
Im not famous, and not a well known model, so why would I think it would matter.
Im apologising because i didnt think My words would be twisted by the publishers of this site to get people to hate me, and offend thousands of people. yes i did say those things, but like i said they didnt tell you exactly what they were saying to me.
I realise gay men and women dont get an easy time from people beacause of thier sexuality. I know gay men from clubs and through friends. Thier great people and dont deserve the things they get. So i am sorry for making things harder for those who I offended.
I will continue to reply to any emails sent.
Thank you,
Josh.
LM
I am not discussing the legality issue here, simply the human angle: I can’t help thinking that this could have been resolved with a few amicable e-mails along the line but somehow it’s got out of control via name-calling and anger. Tact basically comes with age and experience and we all make mistakes, especially when young. On the internet it’s hard to know how to react because you’re not face to face with someone and we all sometimes get OTT with our views.
Josh, if you stay in modelling you are going to meet a lot of gay people along the way, and other walks of life outside of it. And don’t imagine that a taster of what you have had here represents the spectrum of gay people because there will be many who will not get involved with baiting and fighting and will just live and let live. I wish you had put your better letter together right at the start to explain your views, rather than it coming about becase of the publicity this has caused. In life, we have to be careful of the things we say because we often end up hurting people who don’t deserve it and who never asked to be called names. But I think most people here will appreciate your latest thoughts.
Josh Peters
Thanks very much for the reply,
I hope People understand the way you do.
It was a simple argument that got offensive and over the top, and i hope it can soon be forgotten.
Josh.
Jheryn
Mr. Peters
It takes a person of some character to admit their shortcomings and I appreciate that you are attempting to rectify the harm you have done. I accept your apology, but you still seem to be missing some of our points. I promise to not be harsh, so please pay attention to my next few comments. If you are sincere in your apology, then please take the time to read what I have to say.
You may have asked Queerty politely that your pictures be removed and I will take you at your word that you did. However, for those of us who have been around a bit longer than you, we realize that your adverse reaction was more than just anger at not being asked for your permission to post the pictures or for unprofessional responses. Your response was also because some part of you does not like men looking at you in a sexually responsive way. Angry or otherwise, calling web locations such as this “stupid gay sites†indicates that you do have some problem with gays, even if you do not realize it. Knowing what to say to “get to them†indicates knowledge of and forethought into what to say to hurt gay men. Also an indicator of prejudice.
So, I ask that you please examine what it is within yourself that bothers you about gay men admiring your work. I believe that you do not consider yourself homophobic, but your words seems to indicate that you do indeed harbor some latent, unknown bigotry. Words said in anger are often true reflections of what we really feel but dare not give them voice.
Just so you know, most of us have some bigotries inside us, myself included. The true test of character is realizing what those hang-ups are and working toward expunging them.
Please understand though, because of your words there will be consequences. The gay community will be watching you for any further such missteps. Work at accepting and supporting the gay community and we will support you. If you make another similar mistake, however, there will probably be no second chance.
If your really want this whole mess to soon be forgotten, then be happy when anyone, gay or straight, wants to appreciate the gifts God gave you. You are a handsome man. Make sure that your character is just as attractive. Do that and we will not only forget this incident, but we might wind up being fans. Good luck Josh. I wish you well.
al-eeeeeeei-shia
josh . . . . . .
this is hilarious!
i hope your enjoying kevin!
x
kerry
I think its funny how all of you can judge someone on a few comments and the fact he’s a model without knowing him.
This is bad stereotyping and you are all doing what you have said he has done.
Everyone gets angry when being provoked and like he said you dont know what was being said back to him.
I know Josh and he’s a good person so maybe you should all remember what is like to be painted in a bad light because of other just as you are doing to him.
kerry x
Josh Peters
Hi, Again thank you to everyone giving advice, and support.
jheryn –
I understand where you coming from, I appreciate all comments from gay men, however when comments that are crude and offensive are left, it will anger any person. People are inititled to thier opinion but sometimes best kept to themselves. Which in this experience i have learned myself.
Its just like if A hot women rejected a man in harsh way, the guy would be like ” oh your a stupid slut anyway” … He wouldnt really mean that, hed just be angry.
Thanks again for peoples forgivness and advice.
Josh.
miley crisis
Josh’s last comment cements the fact that he is so very young and has a lot of living and learning to do.
Good luck Josh!
And, honey, learn how to use spell check.
xo
Miley
Robbyrob
Hi Josh,
Part of me sides with you Josh, while the other makes me want to keep my money away from anything you might advertise for in the future. I understand how the anger in you came out when your request was denied to take your images down. I’ve met plenty of male models and follow the industry with the majority of them being so nice and flattered that I would know who they were. I would comment on the great editorials they did for OUT, Genre, GQ, etc. What I find always funny is that some seem SHOCKED that gay men would notice them or take interest in their careers. We also live in the internet world where any picture, especially hot shirtless guys from magazines would have their pictures splashed on them…usually proving that they are a person of interest and to keep an eye on them in the future. Nothing really wrong with that. I mean, the photo wasn’t altered? It’s a great photo of you and you should be proud that you have a large fan base….it certainly hasn’t hurt David Beckham, Brad Pitt, Zac Efron, Jake Gyllenhaal, etc. I respect your anger with the response you got to your initial request but these things happen. Words hurt too and unfortunately, you got thrown into the fire. What we find troubling is that sometimes words said in anger are what really defines a person. I applaud you for your continued concern over this issue and wanting to soothe over any bruised feelings. In any part of entertainment, if you lose the gay support, then your in trouble…because we will always support a pro-gay person. I can see if your angry if a gay guy gropes you or a photographer comes onto you. We are all not like that. I will never ever look like you but I hope you don’t mind being viewed as desirable….by both men and women. Good luck to you and hopefully this will be a lesson learned for all.
Gillian
Josh,
I totally understand where you are coming from on this.
However, your previous comments offended me greatly. As a girl with mostly gay/bi friends i find it offensive that you would say such a thing. If you act this way professionally I would honestly feel sorry for anyone involved with you at a personal level.
Especially in reference to your last comment referring to women; i honstely hope that any girl you have ever said that to gets a sincere apology because no one deserves such aspersions cast upon them; just as you say you do not deserve the abuse that you seem to be receiving.
You are, undoubtedly a fantastic model, however your problem appears to be your ego. If perhaps, you learn to reign it in a little people will have less of an issue with you. Perhaps seek a little advice from those you work with or other friends in the business itself.
I wish you all the luck for the future young man.
And I hope all is well.
x
Jere L Griffin Jr
Om I want to be a model but I don’t want any Fags to look at my pics . Om Big Lots Is Hireing a stock boy down the street! son!
Not only has he Ruioned his careior but the agencies also . Might just want to go back and finish High School and maybe Join the service for some Maturity! Merry Christmass Josh! :)~
Patrick
Come guys leave the poor guy alone.
I think he’s doing a fine job with modeling, and he’s still young and has a lot to learn about people and life.
To Josh i wanna say this: keep your the good work.I think you’re cute, and yes I’m gay, sorry about that.
cock
i really like his body. i really want to see how his penis is big and cute. if it look white and pink, i really want to fuck his penis in my vagina. i like to fuck him on the bed and lick it.
Peter
check josh’s bebo. more homophobia.
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3883474716
bubba
This little turd is responsible for having the plugged pulled on Dreamcaps!
luke fontana
this is real lame josh peters is hot and maybe a great model and obviously we do the sneak a peak for him, but if he’s totally straight what a fuck he is doing on a gay porn site like English Ladsand maybe is stupid yo say but English Lads is the reason why all the gays know him now he really need to think about it.
Milomort
Re the perfectly formed Josh Peters, if you want to see just how homophobic he actually is, have a look at ‘Englishlads’, to date, he’s not that bothered about showing his all, in splendid detail, for the benefit of men, and doesn’t seem to mind being touched by, and cumming for other men!