WATCH THIS VIDEO — This nation has always been rabid with great orators. Americans just elected one of these talents to the presidency. And now, it’s time to bring out the microphones for the rest.. The Human Rights Campaign on Saturday threw a gala awards dinner (photos here), welcoming celebrity star power like Wanda Sykes and Neil Patrick Harris. But one man stood out from the rest. Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP, put into words the type of inspirational sentiment and coming-togetherness between gays, blacks, and humanity that we all feel. Says Bond, a gay marriage supporter: “Black people, of all people, should not oppose equality, and that is what gay marriage is. … At the NAACP, we pledge to do our part.” And that’s just the beginning of this eloquent indictment of homophobia.
• “God seems to have made room in his plan for interracial marriage, and he or she will no doubt do the same for same-sex marriage.”
• “When someone asks me, ‘Are gay rights civil rights?’ My answer is always, ‘Of course they are.’ Civil rights are positive legal prerogatives. The right to equal treatment before the law. These are the rights shared by everyone. There is no one in the United States who does not or should not enjoy or share in enjoying these rights. Gay and lesbian rights are not special rights in any way. It isn’t special to be free from discrimination. It is an ordinary universal entitlement of citizenship.”
• “The fact that many had to struggle to gain these rights makes them precious; it does not make them special and it does not reserve them only for me or restrict them from others. Because when others gain these rights, my rights are not diminished in any way. My rights are not diluted when my neighbor enjoys protection from discrimination. He or she becomes my ally in defending the rights we all share. For some people, comparisons between the African-American civil rights movement, the movement for gay and lesbians rights seems to diminish the long black historical struggle with its suffering, sacrifices, and endless toil. However people of color ought to be flattered that our movement has provided so much inspiration for others. That our movement has been so widely imitated. That our tactics, our methods, our heroes, our heroines, and even our songs have been appropriated or served as models for others.”
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• And in a special message geared toward certain individuals: “Many gays and lesbians worked side-by-side with me in the 1960s civil rights movement. Am I now to tell them, Thanks for risking life and limb helping me win my rights, but they’re excluded because of a condition of their birth, that they can’t share now in the victories they helped me to win, that having accepted and embraced them as partners in a common struggle I can now turn my back on them, deny them the rights they helped me win, the rights I enjoy because of them? Not a chance. No.”
• “You know President Bush, you remember him? He said marriage is the most fundamental institution of our civilization. Is that precisely why we should support, not oppose gay marriage? We’ve amended the U.S. Constitution only 17 times since the adoption of the Bill of Rights. Aside from prohibition, which was quickly acknowledged to be a mistake and repealed, we’ve amended the Constitution only to expand and protect people’s rights, never to restrict them, never to take them away.”
• “Rampant homophobia’s not just wrong. It’s dangerous to our national security.”
• “We’re all okay. And someday, marriage for all of us, will be okay too.”
rogue dandelion
The first genuinely heartening thing I have seen in a while.
Chitown Kev
Oh, SNAP.
and thanks Mr. Bond. Now if some of your knucklehead constituents just realize this.
flightoftheseabird
This was a barn-burner speech. The highlight of the evening, for sure.
Ted B. (Charging Rhino)
Nice speech, but….
As long as the Southern Baptist Conference and the Roman Catholic church, both rock-rib backbones and DNA-sources of the NAACP, continue to oppose “gay” marriage and often even civil unions is just that…nice words. Even more-so than the LDS, the Black Churches are a vast reservoir of discrimination against the G/L communities for social and workplace rights, adoption and marriage/civil unions.
They can’t denounce us from the pulpits with an “Amen” from the choir on Sundays, then claim to support us on Mondays.
getreal
Im inspired! Thank you Mr.Bond for reminding us why were are here. It is wonderful to see marriage equality becoming an issue that all justice minded Americans care about. It is an American issue not just a gay issue. It’s a matter of justice.
Chitown Kev
@Ted B. (Charging Rhino):
yeah, tell me about it. Though that reservoir is not as “vast” as you think, it is vast enough.
strumpetwindsock
@Ted B. (Charging Rhino):
I get your point about other black organizations, but why are you trying to blame Bond for that? He is on our side.
We certainly don’t all think the same. It is equally ridiculous to assume that all blacks are in one camp and responsible for each others’ actions.
Go back and read the man’s inspirational words. Can you find ANYTHING there you disagree with? If not, then why are you reaching to find something to complain about rather than working to bring his words into reality.
strumpetwindsock
@Ted B. (Charging Rhino):
Just re-read my post. Sorry if it was a bit heavy.
We should realize though that he is probably speaking as much to his own organization and support base as he is to the nation as a whole.
Despite the differences in opinion in his community I wouldn’t assume he is being hypocritical at all.
andy_d
Mr. Bond has always been a hero of mine, ever since I was a teenager many many many many years ago. He has always been true to his principles, IMO. The man has never, in my memory, wavered from promoting equal rights for EVERYBODY.
I am thankful that there are people like him in the world, and, more importantly, in this country.
Mister C
PERSONALLY, I am so tired of Queerty to continue to irritate a mostly WHITE GAY MALE audience with these threads. This is just a irritance and not nothing for solutions.
Why you don’t question the HOMOPHOBIA of predominately WHITE faiths i.e The Southern Baptist Movement, and The World Famous Catholic Church to name a few where 95% of them in America are WHITE and the majority of the faith is against Gay Marriage PERIOD….Why you don’t have more post on them. Instead you guys are always posting these threads reagarding Blacks as if they’re the key to Gay Equality……PLEASE Girls you know that is not the case.
Then again I get it. It makes for great race baiting when it’s not your own race just to keep anger amongst us all. You’ll see it in the comments.
Just plain STUPID to me. To thine ownself be true!
Regardless of Prop 8, or no Prop if you’re not fond of The African American Community just keep the shit real and let us all move on. Neither side isn’t going to lose sleep over this.
HOMOPHOBIA is wrong regardless of what RACE, OR RELIGIOUS GROUP enacts it.
THIS SHIT IS OLD ENOUGH ALREADY.
Chitown Kev
@Mister C:
See, this shit gets on my nerves.
http://www.queerty.com/tag/pope-benedict-xvi/
here’s a link to Queerty stories on Pope Benedict. Actually you could have gone to the next page and found his latest.
Here’s another link for your dumb race baiting ass on all the posts with religion tags. Most of the faces that I see on them are white (I looked through the first three stories. Anf the number of posts they’ve had on the Mormons alone…Dude get out of here with that weak shit. And I’m a black guy saying this.
http://www.queerty.com/tag/religion/
No, you stop being angry.Brother.
bb
The YouTube cut out on me, but I was already starting to tear up about 4 minutes in.
I still have some issues with the “gay is the new black” meme, partially because I hate memes in general, but my unease mostly comes from the meme’s implication that the situations of blacks and queers are somehow identical (which I don’t feel they are, because, for instance, the history and sociology are different) rather than somehow analogous, but what I do believe in quite strongly is the notion that discrimination is always wrong and that it is something the (frequently overlapping) queer communities and communities of color are often fighting, and Mr. Bond’s opening a dialogue that can hopefully help us fight together is, I think, truly wonderful and a demonstration of the absolute best in the American spirit.
Landon Bryce
Mr. Bond should have prevented his organization from giving an Image Award to Isaiah Washington or spoken out against the STANDING OVATION Washington got when getting getting his award for advocacy weeks after his odd, gay-baiting performance at the Golden Globe Awards. Instead, he threw up his hands and did nothing. So long as the NAACP stands shoulder to shoulder with bigots and rewards them for attacking gays, this is a nice speech that is full of hypocrisy and deserves none of the praise heaped upon it.
Mister C
@ ChiTown Kev post#11
First, and foremost. BITCH PLEASE! I’m not sure who the FUCK you’re talking too. Back up queen because I’m not your friend. And I’ve been on Queerty long enough to see that these post that dealing with Blacks brings the most horrific and insensitive comments and not the ones with the Mormon’s etc, The only ones with the comments dealing with Mormon’s was due to Prop 8 and Prop 8 only. Anytime anything was posted where Blacks attacked homosexuals, either in America, or abroad it got crazy responses. And never when it’s about Catholics or Whites attacking in Gays in European countries,or anything else. Maybe the questions is QUEEN Why does the threads with Blacks get the MOST negative comments and attention? since you’re representing the forces.
Obviously you dumb ass weren’t on here during the Presidential primaries and seen a lot of race baiting coming from folks such Rick Roberts, Churchill-Y and many others. They always comment when it’s an African American who has been accused, or have committed something but never when it was a white person. And since your dumb ass wants to represent them. Then why there aren’t a lot of responses to this one http://www.queerty.com/life-sentence-for-harlow-cuadra-20090316/
No one is angry here and unlike you my family loves me regardless of them not accepting my lifestyle. It’s okay to have your beliefs as long as it doesn’t turn to H8 and we don’t have that. Also unlike you I’m Black then Gay. Also unlike you I just don’t look at discrimination from my family only. I look at it from all sides just like in this Gay community as well. So you need to slow the fuck down with your unnecessary vulgar language queen. And I’m NOT about to go back and forth with this nonsense with you I’m too old and don’t have time for it.
Check yourself and get on down the road if you’re a SNOW QUEEN God bless your ass and enjoy life! Being so quick to put your race out their because of their HOMOPHOBIA doesn’t give you any more brownie points. Because ALL RACES pratice HOMOPHOBIA idiot……Not just your family as you have stated before!
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OKAY DONE!
Chitown Kev
@Mister C:
You know what, I read this, I have a reply but I gotta get to work.
First of all, I am not simply a snow queen (damn that’s kinda racist), ethnicity is very, very rarely a factor in terms of my sexual choices. It’s more of a body type (swimmer’s build) and smarts that attracts me.
2nd of all, that link is a story about a porn, after all. I’ve seen those comments by those racist quuens too and I’ve gone back and checked most of these threads here and at other places and it’s some ugly racist shit. My feeling…standing up to racism is the easy shit, after all racism is just so STUPID. Standing up to your own cultural institutions that perpetuate the shit is hard. The Latino gay community goes through pretty much the same shit.
Take Landon’s comment, for instance. We’ve talked before and he’s actually acknowledged some of his racism and, IMO, he’s trying to work on it. But I think that his view is a valid view nevertheless, many (can’t say most, won’t say all) in black communities do reward the most outrageous homophobic bullshit. But when white gays call the black community out on that shit, they get charged with racism. We (and I mean black gays) are so well adapted to defending the black straight community against racism-in fact against anything- that we can’t see or don’t care that many in black communities are stomping on us as well. You might not be tired, you may have a co-dependent relationship with “black communities”, and not everyone in my family is unsupportive, my own Mom thinks these are some of the biggest hypocrites in the word, for her own reasons which really have nothing to do with this.
See, what we really need is a black Signorile or some shit like that to call them out. Maybe then both white gays and the black straight community will start respecting us
Landon Bryce
Thanks, Kev.
What keeps you from being the black Signorile?
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
Good question. I was asking myself that question last night as I was browsing through “Queer In America.”
I’m not in touch enough with “the black community” for all the real lowdown, though I do hear things. Many things.
The disgusting thing to me: black folks would barely have a culture if it wasn’t for our LGBT’s, and that ranges all the way from The Harlem Renaissance to the Civil Rights Movement to hip-hop (quiet as that’s kept). Our church choirs wouldn’t be world-famous if it wasn’t for gays and lesbians. And pop and soul music, PLEASE!
Now Julian Bond is cool and he’s always been cool as far as GLBTs concerned, and I could list a whole lot more.
Actually, this is really a subject that Mr. C and I should take somewhere else. But…we will need allies and we do need help so, I don’t know…
Landon Bryce
“Queer in America” really proves the need, though, doesn’t it? I found it to be frustratingly focused on the upper class– not even middle class. The gay community– including Michelangelo– need to be called out on their classism.
Julian Bond _is_ cool. He also gets too much credit from the gay community for occasionally, timidly standing up to homophobia while tolerating it the vast majority of the time.
strumpetwindsock
@Chitown Kev:
I don’t mind you guys continuing this conversation right here. It is hardly as pointless as some things I’ve read here, and I’m getting an education.
SO carry on, if my vote counts.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
Yeah, but you have to remember Signorile’s focus was on the hypocrisy of people in power like Pete Williams and like Congressional staffers and Congressmen who are gay but don’t support us (or like the racist rich queens in Portland, Ore. they do it very, very quietly…and I’ve actually walked up that hill with my then boyfriend in Portland. All we saw were youngish queens getting suntans!).
Same thing in black communities really. But where would one (maybe me, maybe not) go to do that?
You would go into the churches. THAT is what pisses me off.
Michael
I was fortunate enough be there that evening for Mr. Bond’s speech and I have to tell you – it was one of the best nights of my life.
That man is not only brilliant, but “gets it.” He gets that we are all the same, that the struggle the LGBT community is facing now most certainly parallels the American civil rights movement and that we should all come together as one, against discrimination, bigotry and ignorance.
I’m not sure if a lot of the QWEERTY readers know this or not, but PROP 8 passed, at least in Southern California, largely due to the overwhelming number of Black and Hispanic demographics who voted yes.
Mr. Bond is saying that CIVIL RIGHTS, no matter which group they’re for – are a NATIONAL (or even GLOBAL) issue, not just an issue specific to one group.
Mister C
@ ChiTown Kev,
I was expressing an opinion and then your reply was an UNNECESSARY attack at me…BOTTOM LINE. It wasn’t called for and I didn’t appreciate it. And you caused me to come totally out of character with calling me an idiot and I had to respond as such!
And why are you still so HELL BENT on saying THE BLACK STRAIGHT COMMUNITY as if no one else has homophobia going on in there lives and communities? You really think that WHITE STRAIGHT people are NOT HOMOPHOBIC????? And what makes you think that Gay Blacks don’t stand up to BLACK HOMOPHOBES????
Unless I’m misunderstanding you.
And @ Michael you said
QUOTE:I’m not sure if a lot of the QWEERTY readers know this or not, but PROP 8 passed, at least in Southern California, largely due to the overwhelming number of Black and Hispanic demographics who voted yes.:UNQUOTE
It sounds like ONCE AGAIN lets blame the minorities for this. To remind you it was also reported that 21% of Gays and Lesbians in California DID NOT EVEN VOTE in Nov! So I guess their equality didn’t meant SHIT to them!
So there is much blame to go around. But we need to forget that and move towards SOLUTIONS!!!!!!
Chitown Kev
@Mister C:
This is why I said this conversation probably needs to go on in another space.
Do gay blacks, as a collective, stand up to straight black homophobes, as a collective? Because I see white gay people, as a collective, standing up and speaking out against their institutions and I admire that, personally.
strumpetwindsock
@Chitown Kev:
Okay, I stand corrected.
Landon Bryce
Kev:
I’ve been thinking about your last comment, and I want to see if you have any response to this. You say that you see white gays standing up together against white institutions and that you admire that. Does it surprise you to learn that I don’t see that at all? That is, I rarely see white gays standing against white institutions in any way that gays of color do not stand against the same institutions. Do I stand up to Mormons in any way that you do not? (Well, yeah, I do, but not in a good way.) I am happy to take blame for white homophobia and white racism because I am part of that culture, am shaped by it, and benefit from it. But I feel no conflict in rejecting it. I’m white, most evangelicals are white, but I define myself as NOT evangelical.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
First of all, Landon, I want to know what you mean when you say that white gays aren’t standing up to white-dominated cultural institutions.
The churches are the overwhelming barrier to LGBT progress in both white and black and Latino and some Asian communities. White-dominated institutions, of course, would be just about anything in American and even world society. So I think I need a definition of the term.
This is interesting in terms of how different ethnicities perceive things.
For example, I see black gay people stay in some of the most homophobic churches at every level from a simple congregant to being the pastor. (and I’ve been cruised in front of conservative black churches, Haggard’s New Life Church is the tip of the iceberg). I haven’t had a problem rejecting the church but I do understand why many black gay people do; it’s long been the place that you can go to and be somebody.
Chitown Kev
@strumpetwindsock:
Your vote counts. It’s just that I am very understanding and respectful of times when African-Americans really need their own spaces to talk about shit away from the dominant society. And we need to do it in our own language. It’s a protective mechanism (one that I’ve, for the most part ditched personally, but it takes a LOT of work.)
Mister C
@ ChiTown Kev
You see white Gay people as a collective standing up and speaking out. How??? Through HRC,and GLAAD? They’re suppose to stand up for all Gays last I remembered even though I don’t see much of them in the minority trenches.
That goes to show their concerns about African American LGBT and their issues because we all have different issues that are more important than others. And by the way Blacks do stand up and speak out against it. I have seen many Black ministers and Black LGBT leaders who have dialogued at meetings before. Everything doesn’t have to be a shouting match.
Chitown Kev
@Mister C:
You have a point about HRC and GLAAD, to be completely honest. I mean, there are even a lot of white gays that would say that HRC and GLAAD don’t stand up for them.
Oh, and of course there are some black ministers that speak out. I am not a church goer (haven’t been for over 20 years) but it’s one of the reasons that I love me some Jeremiah Wright and I hate that Obama dumped him (though I understand why). He’s been speaking up for black LGBTs for years and years. Amos Brown is another. Barney Frank himsellf has complemented the Congressional Black caucus. But there seems to be a disconnect between black leadership and black communities and, in my opinion, the real issue amongst ourselves is class (and I have tons of biases in that area).
Landon Bryce
Kev:
When I read your message, I think we see things in very similar ways but are struggling to find the language that we can both agree on. I meant to say that wherever I see white gays standing up to white-dominated anti-gay institutions, I see gays of color by their sides: I don’t see us fighting any fight that you aren’t fighting just as hard.
I think mostly what I mean is that I think white gays have a responsibility to stand up to white dominated anti-gay institutions, but that we do not deserve the same credit for it that gays of color do. Our societal advantages mean that we don’t tend to feel conflicted about resisting them unless we come from religious minorities. In fact, you have much more in common with white gay Mormons than you do with me. In order to make that point, I think I need first to acknowledge that it is an unfair comparison: to identify as Mormon is to have embraced an anti-gay ideology; to be black in the United States makes it likely (but hardly inevitable) that you have been exposed to (but are unlikely to completely embrace)an anti-gay religious ideology. But you both have a set of problems that I do not have as a middle class, secular white gay: there is a great deal of bigotry that effects both of you and does not effect me. And you are the best ones to fight that bigotry.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
Comparing a white gay Mormon (you could say an evangelical also) to a black gay…Hmmm…let me think about that….
geoff
Ummm, thank you Mr.Bond for taking our side and can we all get back to focusing on what counts? Equal rights for all. I mean seriously, can’t we take our allies when we can get them without acusing them of an ulterior motive? We should be one sided for our equal rights instead of fighting each other. This is gonna sound so stupid, but can’t we all just get along?
f. Boykin
No wonder blacks peole are behing the curve– this leader equates immorality with civil rights- thats stupid– He obviously doesn’t study his bible– these liberal sodomites will addopt our black boy because of their penis size and black men as we wish we knew would be destroyed even more. The naacp supported prop 8 in Ca.(told to vote no) but most blacks (67%) are looking for a public apology for this stupidity– The naacp has been and even more now starting to look like the new Klux Klux Klan– death to black by black– Religion has been the main backbone of black survival– to suggest God equates sodomites with marriage is foolishness on the part of all naacp leaders nation wide– If God had wanted a man to marry a man he would have made a wo-man (woman) Take back the black share of america and give our children hope- get rid of foolish -people pleasing leadership that show stupidity in it’s decisions to lead our people forward– sad shame
getreal
@f. Boykin: Speak for yourself. I am black and certainly not behind the curve. I am a straight black christian gay rights activist. Why? I believe all Americans deserve the same rights period. There is enough scientific evidence that proves people are born gay or straight one has no moral superiority to the other. The silly thing about calling gay people sodomites is that the term sodomy technically covers all oral AND anal contact which any sex survey will show you straight and gay people both freely engage in. If you really consider yourself a Godly person why don’t you concentrate on feeding the poor and helping those in need like a God christian. Trying to stop American citizens from having the same rights as you because they were born different than you is EXACTLY what racists did to black people in this country. So stop trying to do it to gay people. Gay marriage and full equality are about equal rights and love why are you making it about sex? Your life won’t be any different if gay people have equal rights so stop embarrassing yourself with your bigotry. As a black person there are few things that anger me more than a black bigot. We know the sting of discrimination so we have NO EXCUSE to not come to the aide of others being discriminated against and to actively discriminate against others as we have been discriminated against is an abomination. Stop being a disgusting bigot. Take a hard look in the mirror and change what you see.
f.boykin
getreal — another young stupid black– fooled by the lack of leader shipamong the black community– Oh let not forget to give civil rights to tje pedifile and the mutiple murder they to should have civil rights better yet lets make all immorality a cause for civil rights —sad sad
MinorityQueer
@f.boykin: If people are adopting “your children”… that’s because the state doesn’t see you as a fit parent. The process to make such a determination is clear. It has nothing to do with objections regarding the race of the biological parents since our laws restrict that. Moreover, as a child who was born into the social welfare system and raised in foster care I will tell you that EVERY case worker I had was black (like myself) as were the vast majority of family court judges I encountered in my youth.
If your frustrations rest in the immorality of the lgbt community and the threat they poser to your theoretical children, a solution may be to take responsibility for these young people instead of getting pissed at how the state determines they are cared for. The gov’t only steps in once a parent has failed. What’s your solution?
As far as I can tell, you’re the only “stupid black” here. You’ve misrepresented yourself as the voice of our race with criminally poor spelling and grammar, then managed to top things off by taking a leap in logic regarding your faith that is wholly unrelated to constitutional law (i.e. the matter at hand).
What I really want to know, is how or why you even came across this story and what your intention was in lashing out at all the gays and their supporters here? Do you frequently find yourself “researching” homosexual behavior online? There’s a term for that sort of person: latent homosexual. To be clear, I’m guessing you’re also one of these “immoral fags” (of the self-hating variety). If you dislike someone or something, fine. That’s your prerogative. Taking the additional time and effort to seek out ways proudly spew negative sentiments and hatred when that energy could be better utilized in support of something positive is sad. So you hate us all. Good for you. Why not spend your time and energy finding things you DO value and supporting those? What you have shown us all here is that you harbor a great deal of hatred in your heart that you choose to devote and commit an amount of energy to. THAT is evil.
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