Need one more reason to discount the National Organization for Marriage? You know, besides this? Then how about NOM chief Maggie Gallagher welcoming her hatred equal Orson Scott Card, who just joined the organization’s board. Who’s Card, you ask?
He’s the science fiction writer and Mormon Times columnist filled with idiot logic. For instance, here’s him explaining why us gays even want marriage rights:
The dark secret of homosexual society — the one that dares not speak its name — is how many homosexuals first entered into that world through a disturbing seduction or rape or molestation or abuse, and how many of them yearn to get out of the homosexual community and live normally.
It’s that desire for normality, that discontent with perpetual adolescent sexuality, that is at least partly behind this hunger for homosexual “marriage.”
And Card also has a tendency, Box Turtle Bulletin points out, to call for the overthrow of government (if Prop 8 were to have failed): “Regardless of law, marriage has only one definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I will act to destroy that government and bring it down.”
Surprised we didn’t see him at any of the teabagging parties.
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Meanwhile, you might recognize Card as the guy who writes obsessively about young boys, with this type of imagery. He’s also the guy who, so afraid of homosexuals(!!!), has no problem expressing his affection for other dudes, as seen above in a photo from Kotaku.
Dennis
Card’s joining NOM is actually a “gift from the goddess above” to us…let all the crazies and whack jobs band together, and inspire each other to new levels of lunacy and frothing at the mouth.
Every time some ridiculous shi*t comes out of their pieholes, we look like champions…it’s the Phelps family phenomenon, each time that insane clown posse shows up somewhere to picket a soldier’s funeral or such, more rational, sane straights and moderates join our cause… go Maggie and Scott (you two closeted maladjusted freaks) let the crazy begin and we’ll have marriage rights sooner than anyone thought possible!
Jim
I read Ender’s Game – I thought it was a stroke book at times. This guy is anti-gay? Can you say Self Loathing?
ColinATL
Card is seriously f*ed in the head about gay issues. His book “Songmaster” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songmaster) explores homosexuality and man/boy love thoroughly, and not disapprovingly. The man needs to deal with his own issues before he starts poking his, um, nose, into our issues…
Rob
Sigh. Ender’s Game was one of my childhood favorites, but OSC’s politics have ruined it for me.
DeseretScion
Dennis,
There’s a difference between protesting at funerals of war vets and joining the board of a national organization that recently was on the winning side of a ballot initiative in the most populous state in the Union. If that’s craziness then perchance you could use some more of it on your side. I never saw a funeral protester win an election in CA.
Jim and Colin,
I’d recommend not reading your views of sexuality into things. I’ve seen people in my faith read others views on our faith into those individual’s actions and it’s neither logical nor healthy. Myopic perceptions can be low maintenance but they don’t pay dividends in the final reckoning.
Dennis
@DeseretScion:
Dude, it’s just a matter of time…enjoy your temporary victories…time, truth, and the younger generation are all on our side. Darkness and fear mongering will eventually surrender to light, love, and fairness.
And “final reckoning” scare tactics don’t work on me…you have no spiritual authority over me, or anyone else for that matter.
sdandy
Does anyone else see some projecting going on here?
Jim
@Dennis: I am sure the KKK had quite the following at one time too. But people learned that love is better than hate.
My view of sexuality was not formed yet when I read Ender’s Game – perhaps it is part of what made me gay. It influenced me – not me reading into it. Also you don’t have to be Freud to see the symbolism in wacko’s quote in the article.
Please keep your mythological threats to yourself.
Jim
sorry Dennis – that was supposed to be in reply to DesertScion
PolishBear
I read the first four books in Orson Scott Card’s “Ender” series and loved them. I slogged through his entire “Homecoming” series and generally enjoyed IT, too … though I was a bit thrown by the Mormon imagery toward the end.
When I learned that Card was a member in good standing of the LDS church, I thought to myself, “So THAT’S where the Mormon imagery comes from.” But it didn’t really bother me. And anyway, the few Mormons I had made the acquaintance of were pretty decent folks.
But the more I started reading about Mr. Card’s real antipathy toward Gay people, the less I wanted to have anything to do with his science fiction. It’s a shame, because his “Ender” series is really quite good, but how can I in good conscience support a writer that has such severe disdain for Gay Americans? What’s even worse is that, rather than seeking to understand the legitimate issues that Gay Americans have, he has dug in his heels and become even MORE hateful.
Well FINE, Orson. You don’t need ME as a reader anymore.
Alec
The politics behind “Ender’s Game” are reprehensible. Deconstructed very well by John Kessel in his essay, “Creating the Innocent Killer,” available here: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tenshi/Killer_000.htm
I’m not one to psychoanalyze writers that often, but I loved Ender’s Game….when I was 13-14. And if you haven’t read it, there’s a damn good reason a 13-14 year old gay boy would like Ender’s Game. What’s less clear is what an adult male would be channeling when he wrote it.
When I first learned of Card’s politics I was disgusted, but now I just raise my eyebrow. His obsession with adolescent boys, and his weird intensity on gay rights, makes for some interesting thought experiments.
Alex
@Alec: What an adult male was channeling is very possibly the 13-14 year old gay boy who made the rather grim decision to choose his faith over his sexuality. One way to read the opening paragraphs of his “Hypocrites” essay is that he chose the LDS church over homosexuality because it was a more righteous community.
His animosity towards open gays and lesbians might be simple jealousy. And his treasonous rage at the possibility of same-sex marriage is even more understandable. If everything he traded a life true to his deepest needs (social acceptance, the stability of a loving family, a strong and supportive community of faith) is now available to gays, he made a terrible mistake. To see the rules change like that must be devastating, so he’ll fight it with everything he’s got. Sad.