People wanted to say that (gay is the new black) came from the white gay movement, and it was provocative. OK, but you didn’t have anybody from the white gay movement on the panel. So to me it wasn’t relevant. I didn’t want to be on a panel at the NAACP when I represent the black LGBT movement, and be beating up on the white gay movement. We were pointing a big finger outside the room, when there was a big finger that needed to be pointed within the room. I say empower the black gay community and let them have the power to know that we have the backing of the greater black community. And then we can go to the white gay movement as an empowered community with a strong constituency behind us, and we will be a critical part of the movement.
—Sharon Lettman, the new-ish executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition, explaining her remarks at a NAACP panel that gay is not the new black [via]
adman
I can’t tell if this weird headline alone lost me, or if she did. Ummm…it’s early, I must need coffee.
Pip
Honestly, this is the same kind of rhetoric that came out of the Obama campaign. Race before anything else, and in other words—divide constituencies and consume power for African Americans. Homosexuality transcends ethnicity, financial status, gender, sex, age, and skin color. Race is a very linear, unsophisticated way of looking at oppression in modern civilization.
The whole idea of “advancing colored people” is concoction of the 60s that really isn’t even relevant anymore. There are different ways in which people identify themselves now, that are more important, and more in need of representation.
Do black gay people need to be more visible in the LGBT community,a and more represented in general? Yes. It wouldn’t hurt Queerty for instance to simply include some sexy black male models in their prolific pic postings.
But the betterment of black LGBTs needs to start in the Black community. “Pointing fingers in the room,” and creating in fighting is just going to lead to turmoil, and hurt gay rights overall.
DEREK WASHINGTON
I don’t really understand what PIP means. Can you say it some other way? I’m not bagging on you, I’m trying to understand what your point is. Can I ask (and you don’t have to say) what race you are? I’m just really interested in what you are trying to say. I’m getting some mixed messages ,but, I’m sure I’m just not processing it right.
Thanks.
Jorge
I think the reason people become upset about that statement, “gay is the new black,” is due to an obsession with measuring the circumstances against each other. Why is it relevant to establish which group has been discriminated against more severely, past and present? The fact is, in this current moment, the LGBT community is suffering from institutionalized discrimination in the same way that African-Americans have in the past. In that way, I think it is entirely fair to say that gay is the new black.
The situations are comparable, not completely analogous. And to be honest, I think it is petty to become upset by the comparison of LGBT and African-American struggles.
David Ehrenstein
http://www.laweekly.com/2008-12-25/columns/black-is-the-new-white/
afrolito
Gay is not the new black, and will never be the new black. Anyone who compares the systematic oppression, and discrimination against black people in this country, to that of fags who want to marry their latest boyfriend, or join the army to oppress foreign people, is a MORON.
Racism is very real, and still exists, despite the post racial rhetoric bullshit. Not only do black people deal with racism from the larger society, but also from the WHITE DOMINATED GAY COMMUNITY. who never tire of showing their disdain for blacks. Any topic on this site involving black people brings out the racists in droves, since it’s a scientific fact that blacks are the greatest homophobes on earth, and the true oppressors of gays everywhere.
David Ehrenstein
@afrolito: –which post makes clear.
As my piece linked above shows homophobic blacks like you want to erase LGBT blacks from black history. (Cause Teh Ghey is a white thang — according to you.)
Chitown Kev
And homophobia is very real in all communities as well, including the black community.
And I have to agree with her statement that to be gay AND black really is “the old black” (she said this at an NAACP panel in my hometown of Detroit) because of the “DADT policy” about being gay in the black community (as well as racism throughout society included the gay community at-large (read: white).
She also said that basically equality is just a matter of waiting for old folks to die at this very panel.
And afrolito, in this instance, all I have to say is…well, bitch please (in this instance, anyway).
A
@DEREK WASHINGTON:
Derek, PIP is White. I can tell by what he said about racial identities. He said that today “There are different ways in which people identify themselves now, that are more important”. I am white, so I understand where he is coming from. White people are not constantly racialized by society. We can be white and never have to think about what that means if we dont want to. It’s one of our privileges, and its called the Transparency Phenomenon.
PIP, just because race isn’t important to you, and you see it as a weaker identity than your LGBT-identity, doesn’t mean that race is less important.
Also to what Jorge said, I see where you are coming from and I believe that Sharon Lettman does to. It isn’t as much that there are there parallels in the struggle for Black and LGBT equality, rather the struggle for equality is and was the same for all marginalized people. By saying Gay is the new Black, you are implicitly saying that the struggle for Black equality is over. IT IS NOT, no matter how many times Fox news tells us because Obama is Pres. we are in a post racial society. If you are White or perceived White, examine the privileges you have because the color of your skin!
Secondly, by saying Gay is the new Black it basically says that the Gay community is White. Which it is not, it is a very diverse community, and by characterizing or struggle as all-White is oppressive to Black Gays who have always been Black and are still part of the LGBT community.
PIP, you really saw Lettman as pointing fingers in the room? She was just saying:
that the White Gay community needs to try harder to work together with the Black Gay community? If that’s offensive to you then you have really thin skin. If were trying to change laws and change how society perceives us, we need all the help we can get.
Lastly, PIP you say “But the betterment of black LGBTs needs to start in the Black community”. I have no idea what this even means…
delurker again
@A: “Lastly, PIP you say “But the betterment of black LGBTs needs to start in the Black community”. I have no idea what this even means…”
Blacks hate the gays, blacks defeated prop 8, the marriage prop in Maine, and everything else. Lather, rinse, repeat.
delurker again
Er, I should say, they helped pass prop 8 and the marriage prop in ME. You know what I mean…
Chitown Kev
@A:
Uh, leitman wasn’t pointing fingers at the white gay movement at all.
She was saying that at THAT particular meeting (an NAACP meeting on gay issues in Detroit where the Detroit City Council president is black and openly gay), the white gay movement was completely irrevelant in that context.
http://pridesource.com/article.html?article=41296
Andy
@afrolito: So what level of oppression is okay? Would you be okay with laws passed to discriminate against black men marrying their latest girlfriends or to join the military?
I don’t hear gay Jews with lines like “Well, the Holocaust was worse than this, so I’m not supporting this.” Where’s the logic?
Pointing out that black people in general are more likely to be against gay rights isn’t racist. It’s reality. Maybe such “racists” wouldn’t exist if you didn’t put *your* skin color ahead of their rights and dismiss them as “wanting to marry their latest boyfriend.”
Chitown Kev
And to be fair to afrolito here, queerty always takes pro-gay commentary from black leaders horrifically out of context to cater to their calvacade of racist trolls (gay and straight) here.
“I would say being black and gay is the old black because the black LGBT community is the invisible ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ staple of the black community,” remarked Sharon Lettman, executive director of the National Black Justice Collation, a Washington, D.C.-based black LGBT advocacy organization.”
That’s EXACTLY what Lettman said at that meeting and don’t get it twisted.
As if I give a rats ass whether someone give me a thumbs down.
Chitown Kev
Now while, yes, she did say that in a follow-up interview, you need to accurately report the context in which she made that statement.
delurker again
@Chitown Kev: “And to be fair to afrolito here, queerty always takes pro-gay commentary from black leaders horrifically out of context to cater to their calvacade of racist trolls (gay and straight) here.”
This is so fucking true. I viscerally hate this about the queertard editors, more than I do the unfunny, poorly-edited posts with atrocious grammar. They know the there are homo-racists here and they definitely cater to that constituency.
For example, there can’t be post about Laura Bush or the one of the Cheney ghouls with out also in the same breath trashing Michelle O.
Chitown Kev
@delurker again:
I mean…
At that NAACP meeting, there were homophobic bigots that tried to blame white gays for everything. But Lettman and City Council President Pugh and other black gay activists were having NONE of that hot mess.
It was a “family discussion” amongst black folks.
Which is positive enough that Queerty could have reported on that, alone. Twisting the context was unnecessary.
A
@delurker again:
wow you are so informed about prop 8, that you got it mixed up!
HAHA
It wasn’t the Black community who passed prop 8.
Instead of spewing racist attacks about which you know nothing. why don’t you investigate the spurious claims you make:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/prop-8-myths.html
You are a racist, and I would say the worst kind. The kind that faces oppression because of your LGBT-identity and even STILL oppresses other minority communities.
Wade MacMorrighan
Personally, I think we might be able to “sell” our cause better to the masses, and to the black community, if we’d actually say, instead, that “Gay is the *old* black!” Far too few black Americans comprehend that Bayard Rustin was Gay, and that Coretta Scott King was one of our most magnanimous advocates! Hell, we must remind them of history–not only that the laws that targeted us were direct parallels in the spirit of the Jim Crow Laws, but that we were down there fighting for their rights in the dangerous South alongside them, and often loosing the lives of our Brothers and Sisters as a consequence. Wee need the names of these brave men and women so that we can show them their faces and encourage a very strong and moving point that we were there for THEM! After all, there is often a “disconnect” between us that we must fill with heart and determination.
BTW, what astonishes me is how many African Americans are active and fundamentalist Christians, when the southern churches were, historically, one of their greater oppressors, particularly during the time of slavery! In order to subjugate them, the Church and slave owners taught proclaimed that blacks didn’t have souls!
Bill Perdue
@Pip: Honestly, this is the same kind of rhetoric that came out of the Obama campaign. Race before anything else, and in other words—divide constituencies and consume power for African Americans…
What utter bullcrap. You’re confusing the natural elation of people at the election of an African American as president with what Obama actually said and does. Obama did not run a campaign that addressed the effects of institutionalized racism. His actions since winning flow from the inadequacies of his campaign.
What he did do was to bust the UAW and drive down wages and benefits, betray health care, and along with Congress impose draconian austerity programs and cuts in social services in a period marked by massive unemployment and homelessness.
His social policies are a direct extension of Reaganomics, further entrenched in law by Clinton and the Bush’s. Obama Preserves Entrenched Power, Sidesteps Racial Disparities by Glen Ford at Black Agenda Report. http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-preserves-entrenched-power-sidesteps-racial-disparities
What Obama did find time for was giving the obscenely bloated rich a few trillion to tide them over during the depress… oops, the recession from hell.
And to sabotage the defense of same sex marriage in California.
And to conduct racist wars of agression from Palestine to Pakistan.
Kyle
Afrolito is the idiot here. The issue is visibility, and, for obvious reasons, race was always visible, and so, more attended to as an issue. Gays HAVE been oppressed for centuries– milennia, in fact. It’s just that it’s harder to track as it’s less visible. But anyone who thinks being forced to “pass” constitutes not-being-oppressed is an ass.
Moreover, his comment about gays– and this includes me– wanting to marry my “latest boyfriend” is precisely the kind of homophobic rhetoric used in the 1960s to refuse the gay liberation movement.
Afrolito: you’re part of the problem, and you offend me.
Chitown Kev
@Wade MacMorrighan:
The first paragraph, I largely agree with.
The second paragraph…well, you (and, admittedly, a lot of black people) would have to know more than a little something about black church history to understand
For example,it was black slave pastors like Denmark Vesey and Nat Turner that led slave revolts would be one thing; another thing would be that while “The Black Church” remains probably the sole institution that survived integration, even “the Black Church” went through a process of assimilation with other churches in the 1970’s and 1980’s.
D'oh, The Magnificent
Yeah, it took me a second- but her point is that blacks are a part of gay community already, and thus, the whole frame is wrong. That if you look at this as two separate communities, then you are missing the point since there are gay people who are also people of color and people of color who are also gay.
This is a frame that is lost in the attempts to say things like gay is the new black because it implies that blacks can not be gay from the nature of the statement. Wanda Sykes who is black, is not a lesbian. Just to name one way the statement is off putting on the level of being black and gay.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@afrolito: You don’t understand her comment.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Wade MacMorrighan: I have addressed “how can you be a Christian fundamentalist hater considering these are the same people who used to oppress you” and they will respond that those weren’t ‘real Christians.” The real issue with black fundamentalist is the same as with white ones. They are Christianists who make shit up as they got to justify the bigotry and closed system in which they choose to live. I had black fundamentalist praising Sarah Palin as “misunderstood because she’s a Christian.” They really don’t want to hear that slavery was justified by the story of Hamm in the Bible or that slavery is not condemned by the BIble. They don’t want to hear that they were enslaved into the slaver owners religion or that the religious traditions from which their ancestors came from actually had a much better view of sexuality and sexual orientation. They want to believe the lies they have been told for centuries because like anyone else they are trapped by their lack of having been pushed to think about it as a part of the Christian majority in the US.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Chitown Kev: None of what you write changes the fact that Christianity was forced onto slaves by their slave owners. You are discussing the middle period rather than its history, and you certainly aren’t discussing the period prior to the birth of new variants of Christianity that later said that slavery was wrong. before that slavery was understood to be right because the Bible said that whites were superior to blacks, and blacks need to be taken care of because they were cursed by God. Look up as I have mentioned the relationship of the story of Hamm to slavery. Look up also the justificatons for Jim Crow. The KKK was largely and remains largely a Christianist terrorist group.
Pip
@A: To clarify, my point is that race as the concept of black versus white is antiquated. “Black” people as an ethnic group are increasingly more of a minority, as America becomes more of a melting pot—more Latinos take residency, etc. Its not really adequate or relevant to say “the white and black communities need to work together,” when you also have Latinos, Asians, Pacific Islanders, etc.
A
@Pip: i understand what you are saying here, but i disagree. LGBT Whites need to make a good effort to work together with the LGBT Black community. This doesn’t negate the fact that the white-LGBT community needs to make an effort in working together with other minority communities including, as you said, the Latino, Asian-American communities etc.
Does that make sense? You also didn’t respond to anything else I said…
Lamar
I am gay and black myself and I think comparisons between black rights and gay rights are quite similar. For example hundreds of thousands of blacks have been killed because of the color of their skin and so have hundreds of thousands of gays. People claim that gays want special rights because they can become straight if they want to and blacks can have procedures to make themselves appear white (but nobody says blacks shouldn’t have rights because of it) etc etc.
Many black people I know are offended by comparisons of suffering between blacks and gays but in many ways I think that gays have suffered more and for longer. For instance how often do you hear blacks commiting suicide because of the color of their skin compared to gays because of their sexuality. How many times have blacks been kicked out of their homes because of their skin compared to gays kicked out because they’re gay? How often do you hear preachers saying how gay marriage is immoral compared to the amount of times interracial marriage is said to be immoral (certain Bible texts suggest this)?
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Lamar: Considering the overlap that the writer tries to discuss above, your comment seems to miss the point. Some of those gay people being kicked out are black people.
Luxury
It would’ve been nice of Queerty to include what she was responding to exactly… Instead of of posting some random response out of context… ugh..
and even out of context, there’s nothing wrong with what she said. It actually seems to be encouraging. I don’t understand some of the negativity towards her comments.
AlwaysGay
First, Sharon Lettman is heterosexual. Heterosexuals are the reason gay people are in the situation we are in just to be who we are, in peace and with all our rights. Only gay people can challenge the heterosexual supremacist status quo. Sharon is ignorant of the extent of anti-gay bigotry (totally expected). She said in the article anti-gay political campaigns go back to Ralph Reed in 1997 which is absurd. Has she every heard of Anita Bryant or Joe McCarthy? Anti-gay political campaigns go back thousands of years and have happened all over the globe. The fact is wherever heterosexuals exist anti-gay bigotry exists. Heterosexuals, depending on their heterosexual supremacist views, have a desire for everyone to be heterosexual or to have every aspect of life to favor heteorsexuals so completely that it makes life very hard for gay people to have happy, fullfilled lives. Second, same sex attraction is all you need to be gay. You don’t need an invation (from white gay people) or outreach to be gay. So this idea black gay people need to amass power and then come to white gay people is ludicrious. Third, Sharon makes clear the black family is the focus of the NBJC. Non-black led gay organizations are focused on gay rights issues not racial issues so you can’t “come together” when these organizations are focused on two different things. Fourth, gay is not the new black. Gay people can stand on our own. The gay rights movement happened without the racial civil rights movement.
Luxury
Everyone (black, white, gay , straight, man, woman, etc..) has got to stop talking like Black and Gay are antithetical.
Hilarious
I stopped reading these stupid comments at the “blacks hate gays remark”.
I don’t know how utterly retarded you have to be not to notice that if “blacks hate gays and passed prop 8” then whites hate gays and passed prop 8 too.
Give me a fucking break, climb down off your racial high horse, and get a grip.
There are more homophobic white people in the US than homophobic black people due to sheer population size. That alone should be more than enough reason to stop race based bashing of black people.
And FYI you morons those of us black gay people you keep forgetting exist have black relatives who don’t all hate us and don’t even live in California.
I’m so tired of the prop 8 bullshit it’s ridiculous. The numbers were disproved a long time ago now and idiots still keep trying to use it as some sort of proof that black people hate gays. What the fuck ever. No more than white people. Pull your heads right out of your asses.
jason
Sharon’s words are fine in theory but you ain’t gonna get the “wider black community” supporting black gays. The “wider black community” is one of the most socially conservative and homophobic communities in America. They are on a par with white religio-fascists.
One of the things we didn’t realize when we supported black civil rights was that blacks are very homophobic as a culture, and overly religious as well. It’s a potent mix of gay-hating elements.
I sincerely believe that blacks don’t deserve civil rights if they’re not prepared to concede those civil rights to others.
Pip
@A: I think you’re over thinking the semantics of “gay is the new black.” Black gay people use that expression too. Its meant with a wink and a nod.
Also, I happen to think that addressing the LGBT political movement is the only way “black” advocates can move forward at this point. Certain economic impairments, and discriminatory practices exist regarding race, but there are many powerful advocates against modern forces of racism.
Our own President, if you recall, called a Massachusetts cop stupid over a “racial” incident. Gay people on the other hand are in need of advocates, and actually still have many legislative battles to wage—let alone social and cultural ones.
D'oh, The Magnificent
Jason is a bigot who comments in every article about blacks claiming the same things. When pointed to contra information he claims its irrelevant.
Just thought people would like to know that.
Brutus
@delurker again:
Maine is the whitest state in the union.
delurker again
Ugh. Your people’s sarcasm detectors are malfunctioning. I was satirizing the white homo-racists (like AlwaysGay and Jason) who blame blacks for the passage of prop 8 even though they make up 6% of the electorate, and never give up an opportunity for come down on blacks for any small reason.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@delurker again: Yeah, unfortunately, the problem with satire is that if its too close to reality, and there are no indicators of snark, you might be confused with the real thing. Its not your fault, but it is the way it is. It took me a couple of minutes into Borat to accept that I was watching satire and I knew going in that it was a satire.
David Ehrenstein
As I said before it’s not that “Gay is The New Black” — it’s that Black is The New White.
Luxury
@jason:
Well if we’re going by your theory than no single person on this Earth deserves civil rights..
Good Grief!!
WalkderDC
No. 6 · afrolito
Gay is not the new black, and will never be the new black. Anyone who compares the systematic oppression, and discrimination against black people in this country, to that of fags who want to marry their latest boyfriend, or join the army to oppress foreign people, is a MORON.
..
You’re so insecure that you have to try to hold onto the “NOBODY has been discriminated against but ME” mantra don’t you? Well I just have some questions for you.
How difficult was it for you when your friends and family found out that you were black?
How difficult was it for you when somebody at work found out you were black and told everybody else?
Mormon’s will be excommunicated if they are found out to be gay, were you threatened with ex-communication in your church if anybody discovered you were black?
D'oh, The Magnificent
@WalkderDC: You and the other poster miss the point of the comment. Or rather, it is that you seem to want to miss the point and bicker amongst each other about things that are exactly the opposite of what she says.
delurker again
@WalkderDC: Doesn’t the fact that you are even talking about black people being “found out” to be black destroy your agrument? It really shows you are comparing apples to oranges here. You know when a person is found out to be black? When a person spends a millisecond looking at them. What does that tell you?
Kieran
Yeah, let’s all spend time fighting over who’s the biggest historical victims. The blacks are the greatest victims! No, no the Jews are the worst victims! No, the gays have it worse! American Indians were screwed too! The Palestinians are victims too! What about the damned Armenian victims? What a waste of frigging time.
Chitown Kev
@D’oh, The Magnificent:
Uh, D’oh, queerty doen’t pay me enough to give lectures on how Christianity has marginalized people of color (you can actually go all the way back to the Roman Empire to find that).
Obviously I know enough to know that Denmark Vesey and Nat Turner didn’t pay attention to literal passages in the Bible about how slaves were suppose to treat their slave masters.
You don’t need to give ME a lecture about that.
Actually, what I am really hinting at is how black churches have “assimilated” with white evangelical churches since the time of the civil rights movement. In other words, “The Black Church” has changed and, to some degree, assimilated.
I wasn’t looking at the macro issues you’re talking about, I was lookin at a highly significant micro issue.
David Ehrenstein
@Chitown Kev: And the way the Black church assimilates with the White church is over our dead bodies.
Ronbo
Religious Bigotry is our enemy. If we pointed out the Bible passages supporting slavery, we might find a wedge issue to move the Black community more towards understanding our plight. But allowing them to pound us with their bibles – without asking them to read the Bigotry inherent in the document – is sure to fail.
Read the Bible – it embraces Slavery. It supports Black Bigotry MORE than Gay Bigotry. Sauce for the goose, is sauce for the Gander.
Chitown Kev
@David Ehrenstein:
Well, there’s that David, true, but there’s also the Prosperity Gospel preachers like Fred Price and Co. (Price also was influential in the Pro-Prop 8 campaign).
Granted that these type of preachers always existed in the black church (i.e. Reverend Ike, lol).
Prosperity Gospel preachers with their megachurches (and black churches could occasionally be big but megachurches are kinda sorta a white thing that blacks assimilated to) haven’t done the black community ANY good.
@Ronbo:
Well, slavery has no color in the Bible (as it didn’t in Roman times)
That part about Ham, though, originates with the Christian theologian who castrated himself, Origen. The ancient Jews NEVER interpreted the story of Ham through racial characteristics.
D'oh
@Ronbo: You don’t get it. They will simply ignore you and the references as “non-Christian” or that you are lying or “the devil trying to seduce them from heaven” and on and on. But it will never be that they are wrong or that the faithful are wrong. They are never wrong until history moves on, and then suddenly, hundreds of years later or nearly a century later, like the Catholic Church, they apologize or re-write history claiming that the oppression never happened. This happened again and again in Christian thought. Indeed, Christians, through the story of the passion of the Christ, view themselves rather than others as victims. That’s why, if you ask the fundamentalist or evangelical, they will say you are victimizing them by forcing them to live in sinful society that allows homosexuals to get married. Its twisted. But it is what it is. The thing about closed system is that they are self reinforcing. What that means is that they are circular, and tend to prove themselves right no matter what level of reasoning or facts are used. When I asked an Orthodox Jewish guy one time “What about Dinosaur bones” and his belief in the literal text as happening according to his holy book, he said, “This is just a test by God. There is nothing that says he didn’t make the world look older when he made it.” Thus, reinforcing the belief. You are not going to overcome this with reasoning. Its not about reason.
A
@delurker again: It’s sickening that you are blaming Blacks for the defeat of marriage rights in Maine. Maine is 98 percent White.
You have two options:
Can you please explain how you are not racist?
or,
Can you please be honest about your racist thoughts and feelings.
jason
Black culture is insitutionally sexist and homophobic. You only have to look at modern black music. It’s either young black men singing about ho’s and faggots, or young black women singing about how much they want to please men. What more evidence do you need regarding the backward nature of black culture in America?
Also, have you noticed that black women rarely, if ever, criticize black men? There seems to be a form of racial political correctness within the black community in the form of “we must never criticize each other”.
Personally, I’ve had it with the black community.
James
Jason,
“Also, have you noticed that black women rarely, if ever, criticize black men?”
We are even then. Because I’ve had it with fools who type silly sentences likes yours. Black women rarely criticize black men?!? Get a history book, learn a fact or two, then come back and talk. Just in case you need some books to read, check out the bio on Ida B. Wells, a few essays by bell hooks, and some stuff by Audre Lorde.
Kisses
delurker again
@A: read post 39.
delurker again
@James: Not to mention the numerous black comediennes who base their routines on tweaking black men, black female singers writing songs about low-down no good, cheating partners, blacked-themed movies and tv shows dealing with same. if you completely and totally discount the historical, literary and pop cultural evidence, it is clear black women never criticize black men.
giovanni
Hilarious! Clearly Jason does not know any black women though I suppose this is a given.
James
@delurker again: Good point. I should have known better than to respond to Jason’s racist yammerings. Won’t happen again.
tjr101
My guess is Jason doesn’t personally know or speak to any black person. What else would explain a stupid comment like that?
ewe
This sounds like another committee spokesperson setting up a committee to analzye the situation to death. In other words, stall and do nothing. I do not really need the NAACP to do anything except stop being hyprocritical.