Comments on: New Law Bans Employers From Testing for the Gay Gene http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:02:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: 1EqualityUSA http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236889 1EqualityUSA Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:28:39 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236889 He was into heavy petting...go ahead Romeo... He was into heavy petting…go ahead Romeo…

]]> By: romeo http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236884 romeo Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:25:18 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236884 LOL 1Equality, I'm tempted to make a really dirty but funny joke about that Labrador, but I don't know you so I don't know if you'd think it was funny. LOL LOL 1Equality, I'm tempted to make a really dirty but funny joke about that Labrador, but I don't know you so I don't know if you'd think it was funny. LOL

]]> By: 1EqualityUSA http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236881 1EqualityUSA Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:18:01 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236881 Romeo, My partner, her brother, sister, and Father are all gay. Familial ties must play a role in it. In my family, only the Labrador was queer. Go figure. Romeo, My partner, her brother, sister, and Father are all gay. Familial ties must play a role in it. In my family, only the Labrador was queer. Go figure.

]]> By: romeo http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236876 romeo Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:08:24 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236876 @1Equality #10: I saw that,too, about the mother's immune system, but that doesn't explain me, I'm a firstborn. Also doesn't explain my father, a sister and then him. My brother had some angst, but finally decided to go with women, he's a very button down conventional soul, and he's already been married twice so far. LOL I think they're going to find that it has multiple biological causes for most gays, and maybe even some individuals that are on our team from purely environmental conditioning. I think that's what screws people up when they're trying to evaluate it. It just isn't easy to figure out. LOL Bottom line, Nature is relentless in putting us out there. Reminded of one of Heraclitus's aphorisms that always fascinated me: "Nature loves to hide." In any case, time for America to just fucking grow up and deal with our reality. We've all suffered enough. @1Equality #10: I saw that,too, about the mother's immune system, but that doesn't explain me, I'm a firstborn. Also doesn't explain my father, a sister and then him. My brother had some angst, but finally decided to go with women, he's a very button down conventional soul, and he's already been married twice so far. LOL I think they're going to find that it has multiple biological causes for most gays, and maybe even some individuals that are on our team from purely environmental conditioning. I think that's what screws people up when they're trying to evaluate it. It just isn't easy to figure out. LOL

Bottom line, Nature is relentless in putting us out there. Reminded of one of Heraclitus's aphorisms that always fascinated me: "Nature loves to hide."

In any case, time for America to just fucking grow up and deal with our reality. We've all suffered enough.

]]> By: Rainfish http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236860 Rainfish Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:37:48 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236860 @ TRAV ...Below is a link with more detailed information about the search for the "gay gene". http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/genomics/2002/Pierce/gaygene.htm @ TRAV …Below is a link with more detailed information about the search for the "gay gene".

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Co.....aygene.htm

]]> By: 1EqualityUSA http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236858 1EqualityUSA Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:36:41 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236858 60 Minutes did a piece about gays in which twins were featured. (Google video 60 Minutes, Gay, twins.) This segment, headed by Leslie Stahl, spoke of physiological components to one's sexual orientation. Studies are being conducted about orientation being influenced by the mother's own immune system. The more boys a mother has, the greater the chances that one of her youngest will be gay. (Population control? I wonder.) The mother's immune system, subjected to the "y" chromosome, sees it as a foreign substance, so that by the 3rd or 4th male, physiological responses are often set into motion, a combination of genetics, hormones, and immunological systems are being studied, as to why some turn out gay. I cannot comprehend anyone being able to point a judgmental finger at these youngsters. Back in Biblical times, had they known, what we are just now beginning to comprehend, perhaps Paul (Saul) would have had a deeper understanding. Perhaps any religion that discriminates against gays would benefit from this research. 60 Minutes did a piece about gays in which twins were featured. (Google video 60 Minutes, Gay, twins.) This segment, headed by Leslie Stahl, spoke of physiological components to one's sexual orientation. Studies are being conducted about orientation being influenced by the mother's own immune system. The more boys a mother has, the greater the chances that one of her youngest will be gay. (Population control? I wonder.) The mother's immune system, subjected to the "y" chromosome, sees it as a foreign substance, so that by the 3rd or 4th male, physiological responses are often set into motion, a combination of genetics, hormones, and immunological systems are being studied, as to why some turn out gay. I cannot comprehend anyone being able to point a judgmental finger at these youngsters. Back in Biblical times, had they known, what we are just now beginning to comprehend, perhaps Paul (Saul) would have had a deeper understanding. Perhaps any religion that discriminates against gays would benefit from this research.

]]> By: FakeName http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236857 FakeName Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:36:39 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236857 "Twilight of the Golds" is about a pregnant woman who learns her fetus is pre-disposed to homosexuality. Brendon Fraser plays her gay brother. Not completely satisfactory but still worth seeing. "Twilight of the Golds" is about a pregnant woman who learns her fetus is pre-disposed to homosexuality. Brendon Fraser plays her gay brother. Not completely satisfactory but still worth seeing.

]]> By: romeo http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236853 romeo Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:26:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236853 Interesting, from what I've heard about what they're finding out, the evidence is becoming overwhelming that it's biological, but complex. No single gene that can be pointed to, or, more importantly, eradicated. It occurred to me that with possible multiple biological causes and degrees, that may explain the differences we see in gay people, butch/fem, etc.. We'll see. In any case, even the Catholic Church is starting to accept the idea of a biological cause in some of its quarters, and, of course, preparing anti-gay rhetoric accordingly. Some of the so-called elites in this country are starting to deal with it, but there is still, I think, a great deal of fear and loathing about "normalizing" homosexuality. They're just not ready for that quantum leap. But ours is to persist and endure. We owe that to our brothers and sisters in the future, and those who have suffered and also endured in the past. I screw around a lot on this site and others, but bottom line I take being gay very seriously. Many of us do, but many don't, and that's a pity. Interesting, from what I've heard about what they're finding out, the evidence is becoming overwhelming that it's biological, but complex. No single gene that can be pointed to, or, more importantly, eradicated. It occurred to me that with possible multiple biological causes and degrees, that may explain the differences we see in gay people, butch/fem, etc.. We'll see.

In any case, even the Catholic Church is starting to accept the idea of a biological cause in some of its quarters, and, of course, preparing anti-gay rhetoric accordingly. Some of the so-called elites in this country are starting to deal with it, but there is still, I think, a great deal of fear and loathing about "normalizing" homosexuality. They're just not ready for that quantum leap.

But ours is to persist and endure. We owe that to our brothers and sisters in the future, and those who have suffered and also endured in the past. I screw around a lot on this site and others, but bottom line I take being gay very seriously. Many of us do, but many don't, and that's a pity.

]]> By: romeo http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236837 romeo Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:55:37 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236837 I hate to ask this, but where have you guys been? There's all kinds of research being done, mostly in Europe. The last I heard there is more than one gene and/or combinations that contribute as well as a fairly common (common enough anyway) chemical process that happens in the womb. There's a major BBC special hosted by Barrowman that's scheduled for PBS some time this year that will update the findings so far. Needless to say, nothing much is creeping in to American media about this. They need to keep it all a "mystery" so they won't have to actually do anything for us. All in all, I guess I'm glad I was born an American, just wish I didn't feel like I need to take a shower all the time because of it. I hate to ask this, but where have you guys been? There's all kinds of research being done, mostly in Europe. The last I heard there is more than one gene and/or combinations that contribute as well as a fairly common (common enough anyway) chemical process that happens in the womb. There's a major BBC special hosted by Barrowman that's scheduled for PBS some time this year that will update the findings so far. Needless to say, nothing much is creeping in to American media about this. They need to keep it all a "mystery" so they won't have to actually do anything for us.

All in all, I guess I'm glad I was born an American, just wish I didn't feel like I need to take a shower all the time because of it.

]]> By: trav http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236827 trav Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:34:47 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236827 http://hea.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/5/3/373 In the 1990's there was found a gene that supposedly meant one would be more likely to be gay. There's still debate about it, and it's validity. So this is probably the gene they'd be looking for. http://hea.sagepub.com/cgi/con.....ct/5/3/373

In the 1990's there was found a gene that supposedly meant one would be more likely to be gay. There's still debate about it, and it's validity. So this is probably the gene they'd be looking for.

]]> By: Wade MacMorrighan http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236793 Wade MacMorrighan Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:10:46 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236793 What about testing a fetus for the gay gene before it's born? Just imagine how many parents would abort their child if they knew, claiming that it was for the baby's own good, so that he/she wouldn't be teased and live a "normal" life! In fact, I have heard many religious women claim that if they DID know their child would be born Gay, than they WOULD abort the pregnancy! Wouldn't this be a form of genocide? What about testing a fetus for the gay gene before it's born? Just imagine how many parents would abort their child if they knew, claiming that it was for the baby's own good, so that he/she wouldn't be teased and live a "normal" life! In fact, I have heard many religious women claim that if they DID know their child would be born Gay, than they WOULD abort the pregnancy! Wouldn't this be a form of genocide?

]]> By: dan http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236782 dan Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:42:33 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236782 What's the bets the religious make up an exception for their abortion rule for gay gene testing? What's the bets the religious make up an exception for their abortion rule for gay gene testing?

]]> By: Keith Kimmel http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236775 Keith Kimmel Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:31:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236775 Well now, this is one piece of good news. Well now, this is one piece of good news.

]]> By: WTF? http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236713 WTF? Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:18:18 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236713 I would imagine so, since it hasn't been entirely vetted by the scientific community. I would imagine so, since it hasn't been entirely vetted by the scientific community.

]]> By: ksu499 http://www.queerty.com/new-law-bans-employers-from-testing-for-the-gay-gene-20091116/comment-page-1/#comment-236697 ksu499 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:40:10 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=74665#comment-236697 I'm sure the US Council of Catholic Bishops will manage to get some exemption put in for those with religious objections. I'm sure the US Council of Catholic Bishops will manage to get some exemption put in for those with religious objections.

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