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Newt Gingrich: “There is a Gay and Secular Fascism in This Country”

Fascism and homosexuality are like peanut butter and jelly in the eyes of “alternate history author” and onetime Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who kicked off his 2012 Presidential campaign by burnishing his fag-bashing credentials on, where else? The O’Reilley Factor. Here’s the whole quote:

“Look, I think there is a gay and secular fascism in this country that wants to impose its will on the rest of us, is prepared to use violence, to use harassment. I think it is prepared to use the government if it can get control of it. I think that it is a very dangerous threat to anybody who believes in traditional religion. And I think if you believe in historic Christianity, you have to confront the fact. And, frank — for that matter, if you believe in the historic version of Islam or the historic version of Judaism, you have to confront the reality that these secular extremists are determined to impose on you acceptance of a series of values that are antithetical, they’re the opposite, of what you’re taught in Sunday school.”


Is this annoying? But as usual, the gay bashing has little to do with gays. Fox News, aware that it has little more than a month before it loses its status as White House mouthpiece, is searching for a new identity for itself– and also the G.O.P. Ask Hannity, O’Reilley or any of the usual blowhards what direction they think the Republican party should go in, they’ll tel you it’s back to the good old days of the culture war. Issues like gay marriage, abortion and “an effort to take “In God We Trust” out of the Capitol Visitors Center”, which is what Newt says is the ultimate goal of the evil gay fascist organization.

So, let’s get this right– After a stunning defeat by a candidate who ran on a campaign of inclusiveness and moving past the divisive and largely irrelevant issues of the past 40 years, the G.O.P.’s comeback plan is — Newt Gingrich.

Bring it on.

By:           Japhy Grant
On:           Nov 18, 2008
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  • 29 Comments
    • ggreen
      ggreen

      Newt Gingrich serial marriage expert, adulterer, plagiarist, dingbat deluxe and architect of the Contract on America. Why would anyone give a fat rat what this ass hat says?

      Nov 18, 2008 at 9:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • reversion
      reversion

      This is a secular country, so fuck you, Newt Gingrich. And Newt brings up “the historic version of Islam”? There are a number of Muslim men who have multiple wives. “Radicals lost the vote”? WHAT ARE THESE GUYS TAKING?

      Bill brings up boycotts and people losing their jobs? Not only do we have the right to use our money as we please (I would think Bill would understand this being a conservative, but guess not), but gays get fired from their jobs all the time just for being gay, not to mention the harassment and bashing that often goes on.

      Both of you just FUCK OFF.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 9:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Wolf
      Wolf

      @ggreen:

      You left out “Drug Addict”.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 9:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • REBELComx
      REBELComx

      This is almost a repost from me. But yes, Newt, lets talk about “history.”

      BCE – Before Common Era
      CE – Common Era, often AD

      Christian demonization – 64CE after Nero blames them for the Great Fire of Rome. The Christians are seen as (and for the most part, act like) terrorists and are rounded up and executed.
      Christianity in charge – 324CE after Emperor Constantine declares himself to be a Christian. It becomes the official state religion, despite the fact that Christianity is still only a minority religion throughout the empire, in 380.
      Time between Worst Point and In Charge – 260 years

      Black Slavery begins in US Colonies – 1654 CE when slavery for life is officially legal within the boundries of the colonies.
      Black Man elected US President – 2008 CE when the country elects Barack Obama to its highest office.
      Time between Worst Point and In Charge – 354 years

      Gay is OKAY – As early as 12,000 BCE, there is record of ancient man creating artifacts and artwork suggesting an appreciation of homo eroticism. Before and outside of ancient Judea, homosexuality was not uncommon. Most of the ancient world was fine with, even sometimes saw as holy, homosexual activity. Homosexuality and gender-swapping stories exist in every ancient cultures’ myths and legends. Many biblical scholars and historians often state that the law against homosexuality in Leviticus (dating back to around 550 BCE) was created as a secular law (not a spiritual one) in order to further set the Hebrews apart from their Caananite neighbors and to enforce the idea of a tight knit family and reproduction for the small, often invaded community. So, besides the post-Exodus Jews, no religion or nation in the ancient world had express laws against homosexuality. The first officially documented same sex marriages occur around 27 BCE.
      Gay Demonization starts in the West – 342 CE after the Christian Emperors of Rome (Constantine’s sons Constantius II and Constans) pass the first law against homosexual marriage. 48 years later, Emperors Valentinian II, Theodosius I, and Arcadius declare homosexual sex to be illegal and those guilty to be burned alive in public. The empire continues to collect taxes on male prostitutes, however, for another 108 years. In 529, Emperor Justininian I says homosexuals are the cause of famines, earthquakes, and pestilences.
      Time from No Problem to Mass Demonization by the Christianized Roman Empire – 12,342+ years.

      It has been 1,667 years since the first laws against gay marriage were passed by an increasingly conservative religion controlled government. And now, coming up on 2009, we aren’t even treated as equals, let alone In Charge.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 9:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Inertia_90
      Inertia_90

      Well, if they’d like to continue to marginalise themselves, by all means, let them have at it.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 9:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • L
      L

      The right is much more prone to use violence (Klan, skinheads, abortion clinic bombers). And the traits of fascism (militarism, ultra-nationalism, finding an “other” to scapegoat, disdain for artists and intellectuals) line up very closely with what America’s right wing says and does. Conservatives have lost track of the concept of liberty – leaving people alone – and hopefully people can see right through their bullshit.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 10:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marco hussein channing
      marco hussein channing

      Wow. What an educational year for Fox News viewers. First they learned about Socialism. Then Communism. The Marxism. And now Fascism.

      Too bad Fox still can’t quite figure out Democracy.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 10:21 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sarah R.
      Sarah R.

      @ggreen: Indeed, I’d love for this sorry tired fuck to bring it on. Let’s debate family values, Newt; yours seem to involve dumping your cancer-stricken wife on her hospital bed.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 10:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kdogg
      Kdogg

      “I think there is a gay and secular fascism in this country that wants to impose its will on the rest of us”

      This does not even remotely make sense… We are imposing gay marriage on U.S. citizens, DEFINETLY NOT….

      WE ARE DEMANDING THEY NOT IMPOSE THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ON US AND DEMAND THE RIGHT TO MARRY WHO WE LOVE LIKE EVERY OTHER NORMAL HUMAN BEING DEMANDS!

      Nov 18, 2008 at 10:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sdandy
      sdandy

      Huh, I’m confused. How many boycotts and threats of boycotts do the religious freaks, errrr, ‘people’ use to push their will upon others? Why don’t people call them out on that fact whenever they cry like victims?

      Nov 18, 2008 at 10:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChicagoJimmy
      ChicagoJimmy

      Do you think Newt’s lesbian sister just hates him?

      Nov 18, 2008 at 11:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy_d
      andy_d

      As usual, Newt has it bass ackwards. According to wikipedia:

      “Fascism is a totalitarian nationalist ideology that seeks to form a mass movement of militants who are willing to engage in violence against their political opponents and groups or individuals that the movement deems to be enemies. Fascism opposes the political ideologies of communism, liberalism and conservatism as well as political concepts and systems such as democracy, individualism, materialism, pacifism, and pluralism.”

      When the Gingrich family next gets together, Candice needs to slap some sense into her supposedly literate, but demonstrably ignorant, brother.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 11:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Trenton
      Trenton

      To paraphrase Maya Angelu: I would not piss on that man’s heart even if it were on fire.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 12:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Trenton
      Trenton

      *Angelou

      Nov 18, 2008 at 12:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Eugene
      Eugene

      The Religious Right is not fascist at all. They don’t want me to teach at my Sunday School what I believe. They want to deny GLBT people, the poor, black people, Hispanics and other “undesirables” housing, jobs, equal opportunity, medical care and more. That is not fascist, right? I mean, there are no actual ovens involved, just pistol whipping, being tied to fences, being stabbed to death, being shot and all those good ol’ boy things.

      And as for those secular fascists, I think they are just awful. How dare they force me to live in a society where they try to create room for as many people as possible, including those who do not share my beliefs. Lebensraum was never supposed to mean that. Evil, evil people these secularists. I shudder to think that the God I worship is a secularist. Well, I don’t suppose everyone, not even God, can be perfect like me an the Religious Right.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 12:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charles J. Mueller
      Charles J. Mueller

      Newt and O’Reilly are just two more examples of the pot calling the kettle black. Accusing every one else of what they themselves are guilty of.

      Let he who is without sin, blah, blah, blah.

      Fuck him and his brainwashing, Sunday School.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 12:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mickey Rubinoff
      Mickey Rubinoff

      Replace “gay secularism” with “christian fundamentalism” and he’s talking about the last eight years.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David
      David

      Romans 1:

      18For(AJ) the wrath of God(AK) is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19For what can be(AL) known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature,(AM) have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they(AN) became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22(AO) Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23and(AP) exchanged the glory of(AQ) the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
      24Therefore(AR) God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to(AS) the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25because they exchanged the truth about God for(AT) a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator,(AU) who is blessed forever! Amen.

      26For this reason(AV) God gave them up to(AW) dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another,(AX) men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

      28And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God,(AY) God gave them up to(AZ) a debased mind to do(BA) what ought not to be done. 29They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Though they know(BB) God’s decree that those who practice such things(BC) deserve to die, they not only do them but(BD) give approval to those who practice them.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 2:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • REBELComx
      REBELComx

      David clearly is too lazy to do some fact checking. He’d rather sit there like a zombie and listen to his priest on a Sunday morning.
      Lazy Ignorance…a sad, sad thing.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 4:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rick
      rick

      isn’t newt the guy that likes to cheat on his wives and dump them on a regular basis? i love how the moral police on the right are so moral. not one of them are. chris matthews is evidently taking newt and his comments on tonight on hardball.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 5:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rick
      rick

      “of what you’re taught in Sunday school” the last thing i remember learning at catholic ccd class while i was in high school is that if you want a good hamburger, go to a bar. i liked my cathecism teacher that year. gave me str8 a’s and sent a note home to my mother saying that while i had opinions i was not opinionated. she called him to make sure he was talking about the right kid.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 5:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charles J. Mueller
      Charles J. Mueller

      @David: Apparently, this is something about something?

      Nov 18, 2008 at 5:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charles J. Mueller
      Charles J. Mueller

      Actually, what I meant to say was,

      “Apparently, this has something to with something?”

      Nov 18, 2008 at 5:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Trig Palin
      Trig Palin

      That bitch has been married three times, so I guess he knows all about the ‘sanctity of marriage’.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 6:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • john
      john

      My family LOVES Newt Gingrich. They have pictures on their wall at home of the times they have met him. My family is the religious right people who think gays all just woke up one morning and CHOSE this life to piss everyone else off. My own mother still asks my old friends “is John done with LIFE yet? when do you think he’s going to come to his senses”…THIS IS THE MINDSET that gay people have to fight, thats the enemy right there, the ignorant belief that we somehow chose this because we are tempermental little children trying to get back at our parents for not buying us a sports car for our 16th birthday by sucking dick and going to discos. Thats all my family thinks being gay is, it’s about the sex for us. I tell them being gay is beyond sex, it’s wanting to spend your LIFE with a member of the way heteros WANT to spend their life with a member of the opposite sex, you can’t explain why you have this desire/need, you just do and you can’t change it, the sex is just gravy, it’s the fact that this is for LIFE.
      Thats what we have to get through to everyone, that this is our LIFE, not a life “style”, being rich is a life “style”, being gay happens to be my life, fucking love it or leave it I don’t care, but don’t discriminate against me for something I can’t change. And you religious people need to realize there are many people who don’t share your belief is super beings and men who build big boats for animals and other fairytales..you can believe in whatever Santa Claus bullshit you want to but don’t expect me to act like you are in charge just because you FEEL your bizarre ideology is actually true. You treat me like a human being and I wont treat you like you are insane for believing in your religion.

      Nov 18, 2008 at 7:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • greybat
      greybat

      @David: Romans 28 describes Newt perfectly! But how does the rest of it apply here?

      Nov 19, 2008 at 11:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • AZgaybe
      AZgaybe

      shit like this is spewed from pulpits on sundays around this “cuntry” and not very independent thinkers say OMG while some of us laugh and think what universe are all of you from.

      Nov 19, 2008 at 11:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David
      David

      @REBELComx: I appreciate the loving responses, yet no one has shown me the error in my post from scripture.

      Nov 19, 2008 at 12:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Newt!!
      Newt!!

      Finally, someone connects the dots between the gay movement and fascism. If we could remember how prominent homosexuals were in the Nazi Movement, we’d be half way there.

      Nov 20, 2008 at 4:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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