However, you were wrong to assume that “no rational, intelligent American” would understand where Obama was coming from. Particularly, his latest speech spoke directly to the issues of racism in the country + what he feels about the divisive (and flat-out wrong) statements made by Wright. I, for one, found it to be genuine, honest, + refreshing.

You are wrong.

I’d rather not dwell on the negative, though, because it’s been making the whole discussion of the campaign here (+ elsewhere) very unpleasant.

Yes, there are some whose actions/comments are racially-driven +/or extremely biased, but I’d rather not react w/ similar ugliness. All of these types of “we vs. them” arguments are divisive + counterproductive.

But that’s cool Charley because your stupid ass should know that Jews come in many colors unfortunately not even their country (Isreal)wants to acknowledge the African Jews but there are many!

But that’s cool Charley since you said this (Do you speak for all black Jesus loud mouthed fanatics taught Christianity by rich white masters ?

THAT’S WHY WE black Jesus loud mouthed fanatics WILL MAKE SURE HILLARY CLINTON ASS DON’T GO NOWHERE AND I MEAN NO FUCKING WHERE BUT BACK TO CHAPPAQUA NY AND JOHN MCCAIN Will fix your ass FOR SURE!

BITCH AIN’T GETTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE!

Sorry, dollface, but that doesn’t work for you like it did for me, because you were actually making generalizations about what all educated, white voters do. I was not making sweeping generalizations of Black Christians. And your biased statements are sickening. I’m ending this discussion now.

But I’m dubious that a black man has to get in bed with the holy rollers to get elected.

And I’m seriously troubled by some of the excuses I’ve seen for Rev Wright’s theology on other leftie sites (Huffington Post, Move On). I’m not bothered by the Reverend’s anger so much as by his ignorance on HIV, history, Judaism, etc. We would not tolerate this for a second coming from a white or Asian pastor.

Obama is set to give a big speech on race. Fine. It won’t answer my concerns. I want to hear him speak on the seperation of church and state.

Or better yet: the US almost had a complete financial meltdown this past weekend. Literally. Without the Bearns bailout the system could have failed, totally. You might have missed it, with all the stupid talk on race. I want to hear a candidate – either of them – say fuck all these side issues let’s focus on the real issues: the mortgage crisis, the falling dollar, and the cost of oil. It’s a triple threat, and has the potential to harm us more than Islamo-fascism, al Qaeda, NAFTA, the war, or one angry preacher.

Do you now speak for all white, educated voters, too? That’s a neat trick.

You don’t speak for all blacks, certainly none of the ones that I know. How dare you generalize that all black persons want or need you to “kiss their ass” + that they “have to evolve”? Black Christians have just as much right to choose their religion as anyone else chooses theirs or makes a choice not to follow any religion at all.

It irks me that you (particularly if you are a member of the LGBT community) would make such a dismissive statement about anyone’s oppression, whether or not it personally affects you.

But I could be wrong….

As far as being associated with those” jesus “people it’s hard to avoid association with crack pots.
The way that some people carry on , you would think that hillary didn’t have equally abominable associates: try Rupert Murdoch her first fund raiser.

It’s like he’s trying to see through her.

As for Clinton allowing the Ferraro ‘scandal’ to fester … it went on for all of three days. That’s not really festering. Plus, one of my major complaints with Bill Clinton was that he did not stand by his friends, that he’d drop them at the first hint of trouble (Lani Gaunier, anyone?). I was hoping Hillary might show more loyalty.

Can you name me two other people that have been more investigated, vetted, reported on, and disected than the Clintons? Remember the Ken Starr Whitewater cluster fuck?

Rezko has been bubbling around for a long time, and Obama has avoided being interviewed by the Chicago press. If he was really that savvy, he would have addressed it when it first became an issue.

Additionally, Obama knew Wright would be a problem a year ago, and he did NOTHING to ease the public into the fact that he’s attended a church run by a bigot for 20 years. He actually thought it wouldn’t be that big of an issue. That is not the sign of a savvy. That is the sign of an arrogance.

The difference is that Hillary Clinton is has never claimed one of these men were her “spiritual advisor” or “mentor”. Nor did she ever dedicate a book to them.

Many gay men who have lost friends to AIDS take great offense that Rev. Wright was claim that the US created AIDS to get rid of black people. Try telling that to a white parent who has lost a child to this disease.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

Wright was a pal of Farrakhan BEFORE Obama met Wright, was already an extremist—and in claiming all of this is news to him Obama is lying as surely as he did when he claimed he passed an Illinois nuclear industry regulation bill that was, in fact never voted on. According to a “Chicago Tribune” article from January a year ago:

“In his 1993 memoir ‘Dreams from My Father’, Obama recounts in vivid detail his first meeting with Wright in 1985. The pastor warned the community activist that getting involved with Trinity might turn off other black clergy because of the church’s radical reputation.” – Chicago Tribune, Jan. 21, 2007.

Was he lying 15 years ago or is he lying now?

Obama seemed to have forgotten that when he told a crowd “earlier this month…’I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial’. He said Rev. Wright ‘is like an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with’, telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.” – ABC News

Such AMAZING loyalty Obama now displays! The man HE has repeatedly identified as his inspiration, the one who married him, baptized his children, and gave him the title of his best-selling book, “The Audacity of Hope,” he now reduces to crazy old Uncle Fester.

Obama keeps forgetting Wright’s warning as he’s kept repeating the “I’m shocked; absolutely shocked” spin over the weekend and expects us to believe that OVER TWENTY-THREE YEARS and over a thousand Sundays he never “personally heard him preach [such things] while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.”

We are to believe that religion-obsessed Obama, who recently proclaimed, “I praise Jesus every Sunday,” and his family never went to church like millions of Amercas the Sunday after 9/11 where he would have heard Wright screech:

“…the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.”

We’re expected to believe that, at least, SOMEONE he knew didn’t TELL him then about it? And that was SEVEN YEARS ago; seven years before Obama denounced Wright’s blaming America for 9/11.

Obama MUST have heard about the time Wright told his parishioners that “we should sing, “God Damn America.” And HOW is that a part of “the gospel of Jesus” that Obama says he got from Wright?

And, contrary to what Obama claims now about why he didn’t disassociate himself earlier, remove Wright from his campaign—that Wright was on the verge of retirement last January when Obama’s official campaign was just starting—ABC News says Wright only announced his retirement last month.

But if Obama didn’t feel the need to formally distance himself from Wright after 9/11 or “God Damn America” or 15 months ago how about FOUR MONTHS AGO when Louis “The white man is our mortal enemy” Farrakahn received the “Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer” Award and Wright said of him,

“Minister Farrakhan will be remembered as one of the 20th and 21st century giants of the African American religious experience. His integrity and honesty have secured him a place in history as one of the nation’s most powerful critics.” Again, see video above.

There IS unfairness to guilt by association [such as that constantly used against Sen. Clinton], but for Obama to willingly continue that association for 23 years, to continue to praise Rev. Wright even as Wright grew more and more extreme….even after Wright called 3000 terrorist murders in New York City, DC, and a Pennsylvania corn field where gay hero Mark Bingham helped bring down Flight 93 just the result of “chickens come home to roost”….even after Wright canonized racist, antiSemitic, homohating Louis Farrakhan this past November…. UNTIL the world finally saw and heard some of Wright’s pathological outrages… AND pretend you’re the ONLY close friend of Wright, the ONLY member of his congregation, the ONLY man in Chicago, the ONLY religious black man in America not to have known all of this for decades reveals a chasm in credibility and a depth of poor judgment in Obama that no one asking us to make him President of the United States should possess.