gasp, blush, gasp…

Most of us are hoping that today’s outrage and recriminations will begin to fade in the months to come; that our great-aunts’ threats to cast a ballot for John McCain—the man who voted against equal pay for women—will prove mere threats. But even if we can all manage to realign ourselves as likeminded feminists by November, it would be a mistake for us to skate past the Recent Ugliness without making an effort to address it. Having spent five months pounding on one another like men, it’s perhaps worth now attempting to bridge the feminist divide like women. That would mean listening instead of shouting and recognizing the common interests that outweigh our differences.
The worst of the intergenerational bickering of the past months has resulted from a failure of empathy; a breakdown in our capacity to acknowledge that the experiences of others are as compelling as our own. In a sense, we have simply been doing battle over whose stories are more legitimate—the second-wavers or their Pottery Barn daughters— or whose perceptions of gender discrimination are more accurate. Forgive me for saying that this is an argument that is singularly unworthy of us as women. Aren’t we supposed to be great and gifted listeners and connectors?

We took a couple of weeks off and went home to Pennsylvania to “get involved”. I made no influences on their choice but because she was a woman they initially wanted Hillary. In the course, we got the chance to see and/or hear Hillary three times and Obama twice. After the two weeks we had changed our minds, why?

My youngest daughter put it best when she said it was due to the “gay issue”. When Hillary mentioned “gay rights” it came across as part of her rhetoric, just another item on a laundry list of issues that had to be mentioned at least once even if the audience wasn’t very receptive to it. Whereas in contrast, Obama not only mentioned it but elaborated deeper on what “gay rights” meant and to audiences that were anything but comfortable with the idea “gay rights”.

Perhaps we have lived too long in a country (Netherlands) where “gay rights” isn’t even an issue and as my daughter best put it, “What a sad day for America, when the privileged white lady really doesn’t get it because she’s busy playing politics and a black man is preaching to an all-white conservative audience about basic human rights.”

Obama lost Pennsylvania but he got our 3 votes.

I support all rights for all Americans and think civil unions which are a legal mechanism are an unconstitutional and immoral excuse for marriage WHICH IS AN EXPRESSION OF LOVE between two people.

In my humble opinion ANY ONE who had supported Hillary Clinton and would not support Barack Obama is a fool.

He will advocate for your full inclusion and representation in our society in a way that few others and certainly not McCain would.

Additionally our government is being destroyed by the cancer of Republican rule, not just as it applies to Gays, but as it aplies to all Americans of conscience.

Even if you feel that Obama has not spoken to you directly yet and even if he does not to your satisfaction if you truly support the policies of Hillary Clinton you have no option but to vote for Obama, unless you are just a poser.

This is too important to the future of America and the World to be boiled down to Gay pride.

To the large number of gay men who support Clinton, I’d like to point out that Obama made a very blunt speech about gay and lesbians to an audience of the black community (not sure who was there) in which he criticized attitudes toward us in his and their community and the need to support us. This was a political risk and I thought was impressive.

Bring your coat hangers girls to the voting booth– you show that filthy elitist Obama who’s better.

Go ahead and vote “write-in”, which is a vote for McSame, he thinks you’re all creepy abominations of satan incarnate. Baa Haa Haaaaaa!

Obama, the newcomer, has been making so many attempts to reach out to LGBT– maybe it’s up to us now.

No Democrat and no self-respecting LGBT person could cast a ballot for John McCain. You might as well just report to a concentration camp for “re-education” now.

Obama will be on the next call his LGBT outreach team holds. Go to barackobama.com and sign up so you will get the invitations.

Obama associates with people from every end of the political spectrum and with people of every orientation. This is because he is interested in being President of ALL Americans, not just the 50% + 1 supporters in key electoral college states. His campaign is energizing Democrats in every town and city across America and will help to sweep in a bigger Democratic majority in Congress. ONLY THEN can we expect significant movement toward the goals that he has so clearly articulated for this country.

Don’t tell me we have a “home” with Obama when he doesn’t upport Gay marriage. I want the right to marry, which also comes with easier adoption rights and joint tax returns, just like every heterosexual in a marriage has. When Obama goes to a southern state to campiagn and then talks about Gay Rights (and I’m not just talking about Atlanta or Dallas and other big cities there), and when he supports Gay marriage, I’ll consider voting for him. Other than that, on election day, I’ll stay home.

He kept quiet when he knew very well what Wright said about Aids and a U.S. conspriracy to kill blacks yet it was Gays who were the prime victims of AIDS and the black community didn’t give a hoot until it affected them. That’s something they have to come to terms with and they haven’t.

It’s fine that Obama is against discrimination against Gays in the military but I want to also know what he’s going to do about it. He hasn’t mentioned that. Will he issue an Executive Order overturning Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell? That’s the only way this is going to be overturned because a lot of right-wing dems and the GOP will never vite to overturn it.

Again, GAY MARRIAGE, not civil unions.

Please…

They are having another call in a month and he will be in on that one-that’s what they said at this call.

And some of these posters saying they will write in Clinton or vote for McCain are just psychotic-and yes, I don’t care about insulting you because you are too far gone to be reached as a rational human being. I just hope and pray for the rest of the world’s sake that there aren’t that many of you.

Obama has spoken directly to LGBT audiences. He also spoke to non-gay audiences about LGBT issues when there was not reason to do so other than to show his support of gays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGdj8h9PH7Q

What an eye opener!

Well what do you call people that are willing to suffer themsleves to a person and party that doesn’t stands for what they most desire because their QUEEN MOTHER didn’t win.

SUPPORTERS?????

HAHAHAHA

OBAMA/CLINTON 08′
The CHANGE and EXPERIENCE we need!

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/08/my-final-

For all the hate-filled crap the repugs have dish out while in power, we as a community have manage to accomplish important advancements towards equality the last great one being the California Republican majority Supreme court ruling (which I fear with Obama on the ballot on November will be reversed due to the amount of african Americans who will come out to vote for him) because our enemy(repug politicians) did not hide or camouflage themselves with empty phrases that were not meant to include us. We knew who they were and we fought. Now with the Obama cult we will remain stagnant in order to keep him in power, we already are starting to see it from his supporters
“we have an election to win here, not just a point to make about equality and goodness and purity.” And by the company he likes to keep:

http://www.obamameeksrecord.wordpress.com/

Messiah For Change, Barack Obama
Bilderberg boys will decide who’s Obama’s “chosen” Veep

By Judi McLeod Friday, June 6, 2008

Obama and the BilderbergAlthough coming on like a freight train as the Messiah For Change, Barack Obama’s just another poodle of the powerbrokers when it comes to who will be his Veep.

Visit to Mrs. Clinton notwithstanding, Obama’s in no position to play favours in the vice president department, the big boys will decide who fills that slot.

“It has been announced that Bilderberg luminary and top corporate elitist James A. Johnson will select Democratic candidate Barack Obama’s running mate for the 2008 election and in turn potentially act as a kingmaker for America’s future president.” (Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet, May 23, 2008)……

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3395

However, for all that your argument was thorough and well thought-out. I just fear another “taking-our-marbles-and-going-home” backlash like we just went (are going) through if we make too many demands and conditions at this point. No other candidate for president has had a VP choice dictated, neither should Obama.

It’s done. Hillary has conceded and thrown her support behind Obama with all the zeal and earnestness we expected. Beyond the mixed emotions I was experiencing, sadness at the end of all our shared aspirations with Hillary, and a new delicate hope that we could be about to put a democratic president in the White House, I was finally and ultimately struck by the history of the moment, as I think Hillary was.

Today on the floor of Washington’s National Building Museum I was watching a person who had come full circle, a woman who had come full circle, and who finally embraced her womanhood. Yes, Hillary Rodham Clinton came smashing out of the closet as a woman and it felt great all around,
“As we gather here today in this historic, magnificent building, the 50th woman to leave this Earth is orbiting overhead. If we can blast 50 women into space, we will someday launch a woman into the White House.”
She went on to say, “Although we weren’t able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it’s got about 18 million cracks in it… and the light is shining through like never before, filling us all with the hope and the sure knowledge that the path will be a little easier next time”
When history looks back it may be at this point that people really get a true sense of who Hillary is, it may even be the point where Hillary got a true sense of whom she is, a woman who ran for president.

Early on in her campaign she expressed discomfort about running as a woman; at early campaign rallies she often would say, “I’m not running because I am a woman, but because I think I am best suited to get the job done.”

Hillary has proven herself an exceedingly strong woman, one who forged a successful career and a public persona on terrain that has been unwelcomingly male. Not surprisingly the Hillary who ended her presidential bid today, was not the Hillary who began it. It wasn’t until the first blow was dealt in Iowa, jolting her, and the first tear that flowed in New Hampshire humanized her, making her seem real, accessible and perhaps vulnerable for the first time. Yes, women cry and also get things done and make tough decisions.

It could be argued that the damage to her presidential bid was done in 2002 when Hillary voted for the resolution authorizing President Bush to take military action in Iraq. I believed then and I believe now she calculatingly made that decision to send a message to all Americans that a woman, could make the tough decisions a Commander-in-Chief had to when called upon. Of course that very decision may have been the beginning of the end for her presidential aspirations because it really is the wedge which allowed Obama to get a foothold in this race.

We will never know if things would have turned out differently if Hillary was able to embrace her femininity as well as her masculinity in this campaign from the beginning, but of course that is the very disabling and inhibiting nature of sexism.

What was evident to me though as I reviewed all of Hillary’s accomplishments throuhout her long career, and her seemingly longer run for the democratic nominee, from being the first First Lady to run for president, to garnering the most popular votes in a primary for any candidate ever to run, is the truly groundbreaking road she paved for all other women who follow.

As I was experiencing the full emotion of the moment it dawned on me, no it smashed me in the face, the realization that Barack Obama now has but one choice to make, and that is the choice to invite Hillary to join him on the ticket, because it is now up to this one man to further the cause of feminism and humanism all in one fell swoop. Hillary would be the first ever woman vice-president, over qualified for the job, but with the potential not only to use the position to restore a democratic president to the White House but to also, and just as importantly, put another huge crack in that glass ceiling, no, a skylight, a beacon, a blinding message to all democrats and republicans, women and men, that as Hillary said today “there are no acceptable limits and no acceptable prejudices in our country in the 21st Century”.

I call on you Barack Obama to now do what only you can do. Choose Hillary as your running mate, and do what is best for all democrats and all women in America. You are proudly making history for all African – Americans and you hold it in your power to make history for every woman in this country as well, white and black, and every proud color in between. To not do so Senator Obama is unconscionable and undemocratic.

Thanks for sending me his e-mail address and a letter of indroduction to the campaign, also Michelle’s and Obama’s address. I am sure they are all LGBT friendly, but are hesitant and just don’t know what to say right now. They are leaving it up to the so called “gay leaders” to organize and send money, then they will thank them in private, and move on.

I mean, honestly: If these people are so politically shallow and superficial that their vote is tied to a person and not a set of issues, then they’re probably repubs to begin with (since I assume that personality-cults tend to occur in nonprogressive movements for the most part).

Hillary was a fine candidate, representing progressive ideas. She did that poorly, made some surprising political mistakes, and suffered from the baggage of 8 years of her husband’s presidency, which — while infinitely better than Bush — was a mixed bag. So she lost.

Obama represents virtually the idential progressive ideas as Hillary, so if a voter is actually voting on a rational political basis then it’s a no-brainer. Disappointed that your candidate lost? Sure. But SHE’S gotten over it, why can’t you?

If someone is truly progressive, voting for McCain doesn’t enter the equation. Voting for McCain because Hillary’s not the candidate, or writing her in, is a silly, self-important, immature response to a serious political decision.

The Obama-hating Hillaryites have had more than enough time to vent their frustrations; it’s time to move on.

I think he and Hilary were preparing for the Bilderberg meeting (where the few decide for the sheeple on how best to harvest planet earth and how to have the most fun doing it).

It has! The world knows now that, according to Obama, Israel is sacrosanct, Iran will be bombed (probably by Israel with one of it’s 150+, illegally gained, nuclear ware heads) and that the US is actually a province of Israel!

I just hope that, should Iran be bombed, Iran, Russia and China will retaliate, with an almighty bang that reverberates around this planet, against whoever is the originator of the bombing!

And, secondly, that the world will shun the US until it has punished and rid itself of the dual citizenship criminals and slave-master who determine US foreign policy (amongst others), run it’s Federal Reserve Bank (Rothschild private Bank) and head it’s Department of home security (an Israeli citizen). This might be a good idea whether Iran gets bombed or not!

BTW. McCain is an Obama in another cloaking. They are both remote controlled by those who shun the light! I think the people of the US will, very soon, rue the fact that they did not take the unique opportunity to vote for Ron Paul as president!