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	<title>Comments on: Obama: Prop 8 &#8220;Unnecessary,&#8221; But Doesn&#8217;t Believe In Gay Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: strumpetwindsock</title>
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		<dc:creator>strumpetwindsock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alissa

I get your point. It is like someone being personally opposed to abortion but supporting choice.

Unfortunately when anyone is in public office he or she isn&#039;t just voicing a personal opinion (unless specifically stated). It is a POLITICAL opinion, which carries the weight of that public office and the responsibility for acting in the common good. 

And that goes double for the head of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alissa</p>
<p>I get your point. It is like someone being personally opposed to abortion but supporting choice.</p>
<p>Unfortunately when anyone is in public office he or she isn&#8217;t just voicing a personal opinion (unless specifically stated). It is a POLITICAL opinion, which carries the weight of that public office and the responsibility for acting in the common good. </p>
<p>And that goes double for the head of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Alissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the heck don&#039;t you guys get??? All of you people are ridiculous. I&#039;m in the same position as Obama and its completely understandable. I&#039;m a straight woman and honestly thought of two women or two men being together sickens me. But the U.S. constitution states that we should keep religion and state apart. Laws should never be made because of religious beliefs! Its just down right wrong. SO.. Obama does NOT support Prop 8, but he doesn&#039;t believe in same sex marriage. ITS NOT THAT HARD TO GET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the heck don&#8217;t you guys get??? All of you people are ridiculous. I&#8217;m in the same position as Obama and its completely understandable. I&#8217;m a straight woman and honestly thought of two women or two men being together sickens me. But the U.S. constitution states that we should keep religion and state apart. Laws should never be made because of religious beliefs! Its just down right wrong. SO.. Obama does NOT support Prop 8, but he doesn&#8217;t believe in same sex marriage. ITS NOT THAT HARD TO GET.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;m shocked. I would have thought if any president would be in favor of same-sex marriages, Obama would be. I understand the religious reasons, so I don&#039;t say he is as bad as McCain, but still. Saying that he is not in favor of same-sex marriages is going a little too far. He might as well just not talk about it. He should at least make it so th people decide if they should allow them. I also think that having a religious issue with it is a better reason than just being ignorant. Religion is all about beliefs, but being ignorant about gay marriage is just wrong and there is no reason for it. Its almost like when African Americans were persecuted because of skin color. No wait, it is exactly like that. Since when should sexuality define whether or not you deserve the same rights as others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;m shocked. I would have thought if any president would be in favor of same-sex marriages, Obama would be. I understand the religious reasons, so I don&#8217;t say he is as bad as McCain, but still. Saying that he is not in favor of same-sex marriages is going a little too far. He might as well just not talk about it. He should at least make it so th people decide if they should allow them. I also think that having a religious issue with it is a better reason than just being ignorant. Religion is all about beliefs, but being ignorant about gay marriage is just wrong and there is no reason for it. Its almost like when African Americans were persecuted because of skin color. No wait, it is exactly like that. Since when should sexuality define whether or not you deserve the same rights as others?</p>
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		<title>By: Emmett thee boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmett thee boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on! He is just another homophobe. 
I don&#039;t get to vote on hetero marriage.
Why do heteros get to vote on mine? 
What a load of the same old tired BS. 

Obama&#039;s comment? So, he does not favour my lifestyle. I don&#039;t need governmental permission to fu*£ who I want to fu*£. 
To love who I want to love.

Simply a watered-down version of the &#039;Gods Hates Fags&#039; brigade as I see it.

Don&#039;t they know that queers bash back?

Up the QUEERS!

Emmett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on! He is just another homophobe.<br />
I don&#8217;t get to vote on hetero marriage.<br />
Why do heteros get to vote on mine?<br />
What a load of the same old tired BS. </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s comment? So, he does not favour my lifestyle. I don&#8217;t need governmental permission to fu*£ who I want to fu*£.<br />
To love who I want to love.</p>
<p>Simply a watered-down version of the &#8216;Gods Hates Fags&#8217; brigade as I see it.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they know that queers bash back?</p>
<p>Up the QUEERS!</p>
<p>Emmett</p>
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		<title>By: Indran Fernando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indran Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92388&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;crazylove&lt;/a&gt;: 

No, that&#039;s not the issue. Purism would be not voting for Obama because I&#039;m a vegan and he eats animals--the animal rights movement is too young for me to have such high expectations of presidential candidates--your question, &quot;Who is this serving?&quot; would apply here. 

But in this day and age, it&#039;s not &quot;radical&quot; to believe that marriage should be about love, not religion &amp; politics. It&#039;s not &quot;radical&quot; to believe in the separation of church and state (for God&#039;s sake the First Amendment came into effect in 1791!!). It&#039;s not &quot;radical&quot; to want and end to the homophobia that has metastasized throughout our society*, of which Prop 8 is a deceptively benign-looking symptom. Hell, Bill Clinton even acknowledges that Prop 8 &quot;unfair and wrong&quot;--is he a radical?

*Matthew Shepard in &#039;98, Lawrence King in &#039;08... What will 2018 look like? If we approach homophobia with the centrist cowardice that you see in this interview segment, the only &quot;change&quot; will be in the name of the victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-92388" rel="nofollow">crazylove</a>: </p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s not the issue. Purism would be not voting for Obama because I&#8217;m a vegan and he eats animals&#8211;the animal rights movement is too young for me to have such high expectations of presidential candidates&#8211;your question, &#8220;Who is this serving?&#8221; would apply here. </p>
<p>But in this day and age, it&#8217;s not &#8220;radical&#8221; to believe that marriage should be about love, not religion &amp; politics. It&#8217;s not &#8220;radical&#8221; to believe in the separation of church and state (for God&#8217;s sake the First Amendment came into effect in 1791!!). It&#8217;s not &#8220;radical&#8221; to want and end to the homophobia that has metastasized throughout our society*, of which Prop 8 is a deceptively benign-looking symptom. Hell, Bill Clinton even acknowledges that Prop 8 &#8220;unfair and wrong&#8221;&#8211;is he a radical?</p>
<p>*Matthew Shepard in &#8217;98, Lawrence King in &#8217;08&#8230; What will 2018 look like? If we approach homophobia with the centrist cowardice that you see in this interview segment, the only &#8220;change&#8221; will be in the name of the victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-98308&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kat in your hat&lt;/a&gt;: THank you. What was everyone reading the whole time we were doing primaries???!!! If I see one more Obama rainbow sticker I&#039;m going to lose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-98308" rel="nofollow">kat in your hat</a>: THank you. What was everyone reading the whole time we were doing primaries???!!! If I see one more Obama rainbow sticker I&#8217;m going to lose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fredo777&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92437&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fredo777&lt;/a&gt;: 
Fuck you. YOu think gay rights are secondary and are not as important as civil rights? I&#039;m sick of gays with Obama rainbow stickers and other &quot;liberal&quot; voters who refuse to see the obvious in this. I&#039;m not about to make excuses for anyone and its sad to see this constant &quot;well-at-least-its-not-Mc-Palin&quot; spouted out for everything. At least Palin was honest enough to say what she believed from the start. Obama waited till he won to say what he thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-92351" rel="nofollow">fredo777</a>: @<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-92437" rel="nofollow">fredo777</a>:<br />
Fuck you. YOu think gay rights are secondary and are not as important as civil rights? I&#8217;m sick of gays with Obama rainbow stickers and other &#8220;liberal&#8221; voters who refuse to see the obvious in this. I&#8217;m not about to make excuses for anyone and its sad to see this constant &#8220;well-at-least-its-not-Mc-Palin&#8221; spouted out for everything. At least Palin was honest enough to say what she believed from the start. Obama waited till he won to say what he thought.</p>
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		<title>By: My View</title>
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		<dc:creator>My View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ JH - Obama is owned! He and his master as well as his handler, Rahm, does not care about what happens to some queers. Let&#039;s hope that he falls flat on his lying face on or before 1 December 2008 when he has to produce his original birth certificate!

http://obamacrimes.com/

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=80931

But maybe Rahm will come to our aid? You never know:

Rahmbo The Killer
11-16-8
 

&quot;Let me tell you right now, no exaggeration. Rahm Emanuel is the devil. He is . . . a Goebbels, a Mengele, a perfect Cromwell who would, without the faintest evidence of hesitation washing across his face for even a millisecond, order and even personally execute each and every human being he or Obama perceived to be an enemy of the regime. And if you ever personally offended him, and he had the opportunity to kill you, he would probably do it by starting with your children as you were made to watch. He is a bad guy.&quot;

- American war journalist Pat Dollard
 
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/rahm_emanuel_157.html

America is an Obamanation, oops, Obama nation .

&quot;The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars;
the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.&quot; H.L.  Mencken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JH &#8211; Obama is owned! He and his master as well as his handler, Rahm, does not care about what happens to some queers. Let&#8217;s hope that he falls flat on his lying face on or before 1 December 2008 when he has to produce his original birth certificate!</p>
<p><a href="http://obamacrimes.com/" rel="nofollow">http://obamacrimes.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=80931" rel="nofollow">http://worldnetdaily.com/index.....geId=80931</a></p>
<p>But maybe Rahm will come to our aid? You never know:</p>
<p>Rahmbo The Killer<br />
11-16-8</p>
<p>&#8220;Let me tell you right now, no exaggeration. Rahm Emanuel is the devil. He is . . . a Goebbels, a Mengele, a perfect Cromwell who would, without the faintest evidence of hesitation washing across his face for even a millisecond, order and even personally execute each and every human being he or Obama perceived to be an enemy of the regime. And if you ever personally offended him, and he had the opportunity to kill you, he would probably do it by starting with your children as you were made to watch. He is a bad guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>- American war journalist Pat Dollard</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/rahm_emanuel_157.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanfreepress.n.....l_157.html</a></p>
<p>America is an Obamanation, oops, Obama nation .</p>
<p>&#8220;The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars;<br />
the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.&#8221; H.L.  Mencken</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida and Arizona outlawed gay marriage, civil unions, and even private contracts between couples that created the conditions of de facto marriages.  Arkansas passed a law that will keep the surviving gay uncle of an orphan from adopting or foster-parenting his own nephew if the parents die.  Obama hasn&#039;t denounced the results in California, Florida, Arizona or Arkansas.  Let&#039;s face it, folks: he takes more enlightened positions than McCain did, but even those positions he doesn&#039;t care much about.  When something clearly violates his stated principles, he doesn&#039;t even speak out against it.  How much less can we expect him to act on those stated principles.  We&#039;re on our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida and Arizona outlawed gay marriage, civil unions, and even private contracts between couples that created the conditions of de facto marriages.  Arkansas passed a law that will keep the surviving gay uncle of an orphan from adopting or foster-parenting his own nephew if the parents die.  Obama hasn&#8217;t denounced the results in California, Florida, Arizona or Arkansas.  Let&#8217;s face it, folks: he takes more enlightened positions than McCain did, but even those positions he doesn&#8217;t care much about.  When something clearly violates his stated principles, he doesn&#8217;t even speak out against it.  How much less can we expect him to act on those stated principles.  We&#8217;re on our own.</p>
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		<title>By: kat in your hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat in your hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama-Biden-Palin-McCain-Hillary are ALL said they were against gay marriage.  Well, Hillary said the states should decide.

Hillary was the one who you knew you could have counted on.  Hillary has always been the one to care about lgbt rights.

NOT OBAMA!  I cannot believe that there was even one gay who voted for Obama over Hillary.  Just so....stupid!  grrrrrrrrrrrrr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama-Biden-Palin-McCain-Hillary are ALL said they were against gay marriage.  Well, Hillary said the states should decide.</p>
<p>Hillary was the one who you knew you could have counted on.  Hillary has always been the one to care about lgbt rights.</p>
<p>NOT OBAMA!  I cannot believe that there was even one gay who voted for Obama over Hillary.  Just so&#8230;.stupid!  grrrrrrrrrrrrr</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-97109&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clearview&lt;/a&gt;: Newsflash: Clinton was for civil unions, too.

*hisssss*

That&#039;s the sound of the air being let out of your argument.

; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-97109" rel="nofollow">clearview</a>: Newsflash: Clinton was for civil unions, too.</p>
<p>*hisssss*</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the sound of the air being let out of your argument.</p>
<p>; )</p>
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		<title>By: clearview</title>
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		<dc:creator>clearview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, why couldn&#039;t the 150 million in Sept candidate fund robo calls like Clinton&#039;s to defeat hallmark civil rights issue of our generation? Or tape an ad? He did so for state measures attacking race based affirmative action . . . .

Please. Any gay person who voted for Obama and not Clinton deserves the second-class citizen stigma Obama dishes out. As for the rest, straight or gay, we want what&#039;s right for gays.

And yes, a federalist perspective/McCain is better than a religious-based ban/Obama. At least then we can all live in a state or two where bigots aren&#039;t in charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, why couldn&#8217;t the 150 million in Sept candidate fund robo calls like Clinton&#8217;s to defeat hallmark civil rights issue of our generation? Or tape an ad? He did so for state measures attacking race based affirmative action . . . .</p>
<p>Please. Any gay person who voted for Obama and not Clinton deserves the second-class citizen stigma Obama dishes out. As for the rest, straight or gay, we want what&#8217;s right for gays.</p>
<p>And yes, a federalist perspective/McCain is better than a religious-based ban/Obama. At least then we can all live in a state or two where bigots aren&#8217;t in charge.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-95813&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clearview&lt;/a&gt;: 

Obama won. I&#039;m glad.

Get over it.

Also, that whole &quot;drinking the Kool-Aid&quot; bit was tired by the early part of this year. And blatant lying isn&#039;t a good look on you, either. If you bothered to look up Obama&#039;s church website, you&#039;d have known that they offered a service inclusive of same gender loving singles, along with their other ministries for single members. Obama has also been quoted plenty of times for his comment about homophobia in a black church. 

All this is futile, though, since he is no longer campaigning for our votes. He got them + I&#039;m still glad he did, considering the alternative of a McPalin administration. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-95813" rel="nofollow">clearview</a>: </p>
<p>Obama won. I&#8217;m glad.</p>
<p>Get over it.</p>
<p>Also, that whole &#8220;drinking the Kool-Aid&#8221; bit was tired by the early part of this year. And blatant lying isn&#8217;t a good look on you, either. If you bothered to look up Obama&#8217;s church website, you&#8217;d have known that they offered a service inclusive of same gender loving singles, along with their other ministries for single members. Obama has also been quoted plenty of times for his comment about homophobia in a black church. </p>
<p>All this is futile, though, since he is no longer campaigning for our votes. He got them + I&#8217;m still glad he did, considering the alternative of a McPalin administration. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: necole marcum</title>
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		<dc:creator>necole marcum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im for obama but him being against gay marriage is not right 
im only 16 years old and nobody may agree with me but i think that my opinion matters in this country too.
were all suppost to have equal rights in this country and he is basically going against what the constitution is saying. 
my mom voted for obama and if i could i would have too but i think that i would be the one to have spoke what i have to say inorder to have gay marriage approved in all states.
i mean he could atleast have a U.S vote. kind of how they do when they voted him in to the white house..anyone who disagrees with this is iliterate. how can you possible kill a unborn child but be against someones happiness?

Ne&#039;Cole Marcum 
Louisville,Kentucky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im for obama but him being against gay marriage is not right<br />
im only 16 years old and nobody may agree with me but i think that my opinion matters in this country too.<br />
were all suppost to have equal rights in this country and he is basically going against what the constitution is saying.<br />
my mom voted for obama and if i could i would have too but i think that i would be the one to have spoke what i have to say inorder to have gay marriage approved in all states.<br />
i mean he could atleast have a U.S vote. kind of how they do when they voted him in to the white house..anyone who disagrees with this is iliterate. how can you possible kill a unborn child but be against someones happiness?</p>
<p>Ne&#8217;Cole Marcum<br />
Louisville,Kentucky</p>
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		<title>By: clearview</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-95814</link>
		<dc:creator>clearview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO JOE! Everyone who ever wants gay issues to be taken seriously needs to read comment 41! Every other minority group had their votes courted this election because they demanded it. We silently settled and did what they had done for decades--be taken for granted and therefore have our interests ignored. 

Vote for folks who don&#039;t dodge gays &#039;in order to be elected&#039; or for some darker reason, as Obama did. Saying the word &#039;gay&#039; once in a speech is NOTHING. What does that get you? By the way, that&#039;s old news Clinton bet his whole election campaign by being there with us and then his presidency in fighting for us as one of the first things he did. And then, there was no active movement to dehumanize gays as there is now and which Obama will silently, maybe even happily, see pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO JOE! Everyone who ever wants gay issues to be taken seriously needs to read comment 41! Every other minority group had their votes courted this election because they demanded it. We silently settled and did what they had done for decades&#8211;be taken for granted and therefore have our interests ignored. </p>
<p>Vote for folks who don&#8217;t dodge gays &#8216;in order to be elected&#8217; or for some darker reason, as Obama did. Saying the word &#8216;gay&#8217; once in a speech is NOTHING. What does that get you? By the way, that&#8217;s old news Clinton bet his whole election campaign by being there with us and then his presidency in fighting for us as one of the first things he did. And then, there was no active movement to dehumanize gays as there is now and which Obama will silently, maybe even happily, see pass.</p>
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		<title>By: clearview</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-95813</link>
		<dc:creator>clearview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latest lesson in &#039;careful about what you wish for, you just might get it&#039;.

There were too many red flags regarding Obama&#039;s ambivalent, even hostile, position toward gays to ignore------

Obama defended his &#039;traditional black church&#039;--which would include the well known black religious tradition of the most extreme faith based homophobia. Beyond that he defended his vitriolic, bigoted preacher Wright-- before he denounced Wright once his sharp tongue was directed at Obama rather than others deserving of traditional &#039;black christian&#039; hate. 

Obama did one profelactic interview with the Advocate when nobody was looking and when he was looking for votes in the couch cushions. Then he never spoke to gay press, volunteered an opinion on the civil rights isssue and group of modern America despite filming ads in support of affirmative action, and lied about equal access to gay press among all minorities. This despite his hope and rose colored glasses campaign and claim of constitutional law scholarship.

Yet, gay Obamanuts backed him. Even rejecting Clinton---a known fighter for gays who openly met with and included gays in her campaign.

Koolaid doesn&#039;t come in rainbow color. So why were you all lapping this guy up??? Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest lesson in &#8216;careful about what you wish for, you just might get it&#8217;.</p>
<p>There were too many red flags regarding Obama&#8217;s ambivalent, even hostile, position toward gays to ignore&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Obama defended his &#8216;traditional black church&#8217;&#8211;which would include the well known black religious tradition of the most extreme faith based homophobia. Beyond that he defended his vitriolic, bigoted preacher Wright&#8211; before he denounced Wright once his sharp tongue was directed at Obama rather than others deserving of traditional &#8216;black christian&#8217; hate. </p>
<p>Obama did one profelactic interview with the Advocate when nobody was looking and when he was looking for votes in the couch cushions. Then he never spoke to gay press, volunteered an opinion on the civil rights isssue and group of modern America despite filming ads in support of affirmative action, and lied about equal access to gay press among all minorities. This despite his hope and rose colored glasses campaign and claim of constitutional law scholarship.</p>
<p>Yet, gay Obamanuts backed him. Even rejecting Clinton&#8212;a known fighter for gays who openly met with and included gays in her campaign.</p>
<p>Koolaid doesn&#8217;t come in rainbow color. So why were you all lapping this guy up??? Thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlito</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-95158</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amy, if the back of the bus is the dunce section, you have a permanently assigned seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amy, if the back of the bus is the dunce section, you have a permanently assigned seat.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-95144</link>
		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being that he&#039;ll actually utter the word &quot;gay&quot; in a public speech? Yes.

He&#039;s, by default, more pro-gay than grampa.

And, btw, don&#039;t ever suggest that I go to the back of the bus. Or that I get on a bus at all, for that matter. Hmmph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being that he&#8217;ll actually utter the word &#8220;gay&#8221; in a public speech? Yes.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s, by default, more pro-gay than grampa.</p>
<p>And, btw, don&#8217;t ever suggest that I go to the back of the bus. Or that I get on a bus at all, for that matter. Hmmph.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-95141</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92343&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fredo777&lt;/a&gt;:   ha!  obama, more &#039;pro gay&#039; than mccain?  bullocks!  and you fell for it and voted for this guy?  get to the back of the bus where obama wants you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-92343" rel="nofollow">fredo777</a>:   ha!  obama, more &#8216;pro gay&#8217; than mccain?  bullocks!  and you fell for it and voted for this guy?  get to the back of the bus where obama wants you.</p>
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		<title>By: denny1699</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-94774</link>
		<dc:creator>denny1699</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that Bill Clinton made mass &quot;automated&quot; calls to California voters urging them to vote No on Prop. 8.

Why couldn&#039;t the Barrack Obama people do the same, with all their vast financial resources and armies of volunteers ? ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that Bill Clinton made mass &#8220;automated&#8221; calls to California voters urging them to vote No on Prop. 8.</p>
<p>Why couldn&#8217;t the Barrack Obama people do the same, with all their vast financial resources and armies of volunteers ? ?</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-94724</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>End government marriage.

It was a dumb idea in the first place. 

What business is Caesar doing in God&#039;s sacraments?

Replace government marriage with something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End government marriage.</p>
<p>It was a dumb idea in the first place. </p>
<p>What business is Caesar doing in God&#8217;s sacraments?</p>
<p>Replace government marriage with something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-94262</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly believe that Obama does support gay marriage. He just had to say what he did to get elected. It&#039;s sad, but due to Prop 8 passing, it proves that Americans are still prejudice. More about it on my blog.

The fight wont stop until homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals, I can promise you that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly believe that Obama does support gay marriage. He just had to say what he did to get elected. It&#8217;s sad, but due to Prop 8 passing, it proves that Americans are still prejudice. More about it on my blog.</p>
<p>The fight wont stop until homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals, I can promise you that.</p>
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		<title>By: Faghater</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-93619</link>
		<dc:creator>Faghater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuckin fags...go fuck urself and die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuckin fags&#8230;go fuck urself and die!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-93447</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that president elect Obama is personlly opposed to gay marriage. But on the weekend before the vote to a select audience he said he didnt think the coonstituion should be changed to restrict liberty. In a state he won 61 to 37 he could have done more to help gays and lesbians NOT have their freedom restricted. He didn&#039;t lead here. Why no outrage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that president elect Obama is personlly opposed to gay marriage. But on the weekend before the vote to a select audience he said he didnt think the coonstituion should be changed to restrict liberty. In a state he won 61 to 37 he could have done more to help gays and lesbians NOT have their freedom restricted. He didn&#8217;t lead here. Why no outrage?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe USA</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-93374</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitter sweet victory. The first African American president. Gay rights denied.

We voted for Animal rights and won. Yet we voted for Gay rights and lost. 

As I said a very bitter sweet day for many gay Americans. Colin Powell said of Mr. Obama, he is a good man a great man that happens to be black. I to am a good man and possibly a great man who happens to be gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter sweet victory. The first African American president. Gay rights denied.</p>
<p>We voted for Animal rights and won. Yet we voted for Gay rights and lost. </p>
<p>As I said a very bitter sweet day for many gay Americans. Colin Powell said of Mr. Obama, he is a good man a great man that happens to be black. I to am a good man and possibly a great man who happens to be gay.</p>
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		<title>By: crazyfool</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-93263</link>
		<dc:creator>crazyfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling on all gays, move to California and reverse this nonsense. I&#039;m appalled not only by the result of this vote but also that it only takes a majority of those who even bothered to show up and vote to amend California&#039;s constitution. If I understand correctly, increased tax measures or bonds and the like require 75% of the vote. Unbelievable, placing the importance of money over basic human rights.

crazylove, while I agree with your sentiment, you rob your points&#039; potency with a hackneyed argument. You should speak in a language that can be understood by what should be your intended audience. Activists can understand your gibberish but others? I&#039;m not so sure. And that&#039;s who you needed to convince and need to convince in the future. Please step back and remove yourself from your narrow life&#039;s immersion and learn to speak to those outside your agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling on all gays, move to California and reverse this nonsense. I&#8217;m appalled not only by the result of this vote but also that it only takes a majority of those who even bothered to show up and vote to amend California&#8217;s constitution. If I understand correctly, increased tax measures or bonds and the like require 75% of the vote. Unbelievable, placing the importance of money over basic human rights.</p>
<p>crazylove, while I agree with your sentiment, you rob your points&#8217; potency with a hackneyed argument. You should speak in a language that can be understood by what should be your intended audience. Activists can understand your gibberish but others? I&#8217;m not so sure. And that&#8217;s who you needed to convince and need to convince in the future. Please step back and remove yourself from your narrow life&#8217;s immersion and learn to speak to those outside your agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: NoOn8</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92809</link>
		<dc:creator>NoOn8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama isnt being very clear about prop 8
he says he doesnt support it but then he talks about how he doesnt support gay marriage
that kinda cancels each other out
but hey as long as he votes NO on prop 8 then its all good and he&#039;s obviously a better choice than McCain
only redneck assholes vote for McCain
notice all of the state that only have like 1 or 2 representatives are McCain states and Obama has all of the states with like 53 or 25 representatives 
 the Electorial College has the votes that count and right now Obama is up by 110 votes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama isnt being very clear about prop 8<br />
he says he doesnt support it but then he talks about how he doesnt support gay marriage<br />
that kinda cancels each other out<br />
but hey as long as he votes NO on prop 8 then its all good and he&#8217;s obviously a better choice than McCain<br />
only redneck assholes vote for McCain<br />
notice all of the state that only have like 1 or 2 representatives are McCain states and Obama has all of the states with like 53 or 25 representatives<br />
 the Electorial College has the votes that count and right now Obama is up by 110 votes</p>
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		<title>By: ZeeLee</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92752</link>
		<dc:creator>ZeeLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. Both Obama and Clintin seem to have one common belief; marriage is between a man and woman. 
They both sound OK, but if I had to vote I&#039;d probably vote Obama. (I&#039;m a canadian... YAY!)
ZeeLee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. Both Obama and Clintin seem to have one common belief; marriage is between a man and woman.<br />
They both sound OK, but if I had to vote I&#8217;d probably vote Obama. (I&#8217;m a canadian&#8230; YAY!)<br />
ZeeLee</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92720</link>
		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole rant is a non-issue.

He&#039;ll get in, make some positive changes + I&#039;ll look back on it + be glad I voted for him.

The End.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole rant is a non-issue.</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll get in, make some positive changes + I&#8217;ll look back on it + be glad I voted for him.</p>
<p>The End.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Perdue</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92704</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fredo777 - DADT and DOMA are recent news, and so is the Democrats refusal to repeal them during the last two years they&#039;ve controlled Congress. There is, after all, at least some continuity in the Democrat party. Especially regarding bigotry. For instance Biden voted &lt;b&gt;for&lt;/b&gt; both DOMA and DADT, as did scores of other Democrats who&#039;ll be in the next Congress. 

The gutting of ENDA by a &#039;liberal&#039; named Barney Frank is even more recent, and so is their contemptible decision to empower thugs by refusing to press the hate crimes bill while hate crimes against us are soaring. (Google the FBI hate crimes story of a few weeks ago.) 

But the most recent news of all is the enduring bigotry of candidates like McCain and Obama regarding same sex marriage and the gleeful use of that by other bigots supporting attacks on same sex marriage. 

Your issue regarding the &lt;b&gt;age of their betrayal&lt;/b&gt; is a non-issue, an absurd attempt to deflect from their &lt;b&gt;pattern of betrayals, &lt;/b&gt;  in which Obama and Biden have both played ugly roles. Itâ€™s useless to try to con people with sophistry like that; too many of us are fully aware of whatâ€™s been done to us, and even more became aware during this campaign. 


Don&#039;t worry; Obama is going to win big. And then heâ€™s going to betray us. Then everyone except a few crumb collectors are going to be very angry. And then the Left will organize them. I can&#039;t wait.

I voted early in Nevada for &#039;None of these Candidates&quot;. That&#039;s just one of the reasons I like Vegas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fredo777 &#8211; DADT and DOMA are recent news, and so is the Democrats refusal to repeal them during the last two years they&#8217;ve controlled Congress. There is, after all, at least some continuity in the Democrat party. Especially regarding bigotry. For instance Biden voted <b>for</b> both DOMA and DADT, as did scores of other Democrats who&#8217;ll be in the next Congress. </p>
<p>The gutting of ENDA by a &#8216;liberal&#8217; named Barney Frank is even more recent, and so is their contemptible decision to empower thugs by refusing to press the hate crimes bill while hate crimes against us are soaring. (Google the FBI hate crimes story of a few weeks ago.) </p>
<p>But the most recent news of all is the enduring bigotry of candidates like McCain and Obama regarding same sex marriage and the gleeful use of that by other bigots supporting attacks on same sex marriage. </p>
<p>Your issue regarding the <b>age of their betrayal</b> is a non-issue, an absurd attempt to deflect from their <b>pattern of betrayals, </b>  in which Obama and Biden have both played ugly roles. Itâ€™s useless to try to con people with sophistry like that; too many of us are fully aware of whatâ€™s been done to us, and even more became aware during this campaign. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry; Obama is going to win big. And then heâ€™s going to betray us. Then everyone except a few crumb collectors are going to be very angry. And then the Left will organize them. I can&#8217;t wait.</p>
<p>I voted early in Nevada for &#8216;None of these Candidates&#8221;. That&#8217;s just one of the reasons I like Vegas.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92697</link>
		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama hasn&#039;t told anyone anything different. He&#039;s always said he doesn&#039;t personally believe in gay marriage, but that he&#039;s for more rights in the form of civil unions + that he acknowledges that his own beliefs might not be perfect.

Anyway, DADT was a compromise, which you probably already knew. Clinton was met with resistance + had to settle for DADT. That&#039;s old news. I&#039;m looking forward now + I&#039;ve already &#039;Baracked the Vote&#039; today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama hasn&#8217;t told anyone anything different. He&#8217;s always said he doesn&#8217;t personally believe in gay marriage, but that he&#8217;s for more rights in the form of civil unions + that he acknowledges that his own beliefs might not be perfect.</p>
<p>Anyway, DADT was a compromise, which you probably already knew. Clinton was met with resistance + had to settle for DADT. That&#8217;s old news. I&#8217;m looking forward now + I&#8217;ve already &#8216;Baracked the Vote&#8217; today.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Perdue</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92677</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes seitan-on-a-stick, Obama tells us one thing and the bigots another, just like Clinton did. 

Clinton gave us DADT and DOMA and we&#039;ll just have to wait to see what nasty tricks OBama will pull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes seitan-on-a-stick, Obama tells us one thing and the bigots another, just like Clinton did. </p>
<p>Clinton gave us DADT and DOMA and we&#8217;ll just have to wait to see what nasty tricks OBama will pull.</p>
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		<title>By: seitan-on-a-stick</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92668</link>
		<dc:creator>seitan-on-a-stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Obama is against Proposition 8 but the dastardly &quot;yes on HATE&quot; people are mis-using his stance on Gay Marriage as a Green Light for their Prop-on-8. 

No on Proposition 8
Yes to Barack Obama as President

PS - I really noticed a lot of old people voting at 6am but no young people in sight....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Obama is against Proposition 8 but the dastardly &#8220;yes on HATE&#8221; people are mis-using his stance on Gay Marriage as a Green Light for their Prop-on-8. </p>
<p>No on Proposition 8<br />
Yes to Barack Obama as President</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I really noticed a lot of old people voting at 6am but no young people in sight&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92574</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the no on prop 8 ads itself:  &quot;no matter how you feel about marriage, don&#039;t take away a person&#039;s fundamental rights&quot;


he feels a certain way about marriage, fine.  that isn&#039;t a crime.  but is he going to let his feelings trump the rights of those people, hell no.  vote obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the no on prop 8 ads itself:  &#8220;no matter how you feel about marriage, don&#8217;t take away a person&#8217;s fundamental rights&#8221;</p>
<p>he feels a certain way about marriage, fine.  that isn&#8217;t a crime.  but is he going to let his feelings trump the rights of those people, hell no.  vote obama.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92552</link>
		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why do we keep blindly supporting candidates...?&quot;

Speak for yourself, Joe. Not all of us are &quot;blindly&quot; doing anything, but have researched the candidates + are weighing the pros + cons which still point to certain candidates being better for LGBT citizens than others. Not perfect, obviously, but better.

Check out the Washington Blade articles NY Diva posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do we keep blindly supporting candidates&#8230;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Speak for yourself, Joe. Not all of us are &#8220;blindly&#8221; doing anything, but have researched the candidates + are weighing the pros + cons which still point to certain candidates being better for LGBT citizens than others. Not perfect, obviously, but better.</p>
<p>Check out the Washington Blade articles NY Diva posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we keep blindly supporting candidates who don&#039;t support our key issues and then do backflips to rationalize our choices? Just because someone is a liberal, doesn&#039;t make them our friend.  After all, the most demonic conservative of our generation, Dick Cheney, is the only national candidate to openly support gay marriage and other key issues to our community - - why Obama and not Cheney?  We&#039;ll never get anywhere by giving away our votes to those that don&#039;t help us and then turn our backs on those who do just because they don&#039;t have the magic &quot;d&quot; next to their name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we keep blindly supporting candidates who don&#8217;t support our key issues and then do backflips to rationalize our choices? Just because someone is a liberal, doesn&#8217;t make them our friend.  After all, the most demonic conservative of our generation, Dick Cheney, is the only national candidate to openly support gay marriage and other key issues to our community &#8211; - why Obama and not Cheney?  We&#8217;ll never get anywhere by giving away our votes to those that don&#8217;t help us and then turn our backs on those who do just because they don&#8217;t have the magic &#8220;d&#8221; next to their name.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92537</link>
		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My View&quot;, you are off your rocker.

As always, I&#039;ll be voting for the candidate that is best for my interests as a gay man.

That is Obama/Biden.
And NO on 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My View&#8221;, you are off your rocker.</p>
<p>As always, I&#8217;ll be voting for the candidate that is best for my interests as a gay man.</p>
<p>That is Obama/Biden.<br />
And NO on 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Perdue</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92535</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The bigotry of the Obama and McCain tickets about same sex marriage is the one single factor that hurts us the most in California, Arizona and Florida, the three states where anti-GLBT initiatives are on the ballot. &lt;/b&gt;

From day one McCain and Obama have relentlessly competed to win the trophy for pandering to bigots using same sex marriage as a wedge issue.  The polls say that Obama won that race. His tedious petition of his prejudices about same sex marriage is a green light to bigots to vote against us. When Obama attacked same sex marriage using the phrase â€œgodâ€™s in the mixâ€ he that same sex marriage is a sin and secondly that the clueless bigotry of the christians is sanctioned from â€œOn Highâ€. Letâ€™s have a big down home hallelujah for Brother Obamaâ€¦ the bigot. 

And his supine apologists, whoâ€™ve believe anything, accept anything and defend anything he does, over and over, are getting just a little old, and more than a little pathetic.   

The right wing and the christist bigots are so enthused by Obamaâ€™s bigotry that theyâ€™re running ads quoting him against us. That&#039;s becasue Obama constantly says that same sex marriage is a sin, and that civil unions, which cements our second class status, are all that we deserve. And like George Wallace, another bigoted Democrat and enemy of civil rights, Obama is quite content to let the â€˜stateâ€™s rightsâ€™ dogma, which had it origins in the slavocracy&#039;s demand to be allowed to extend slavery, to be his guide, allowing state DOMAs to mistreat us. 

With Democrats like that who needs Republicans?  

Donâ€™t get caught voting for bigots. Vote against McCain and the other Republican bigots. Vote against Obama and the other Democrat bigots. If the union led Labor Party gets on the ballot despite the roadblocks placed by the Democrat party then vote for them, or for any socialist or communist candidates or write someone in or just skip it like millions of disgusted working people do every four years. 

&lt;b&gt; &lt;i&gt; WHATEVER YOU DO, IF YOU LIVE IN ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA OR FLORIDA VOTE AGAINST THE BIGOT BALLOT ITITIATIVES.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The bigotry of the Obama and McCain tickets about same sex marriage is the one single factor that hurts us the most in California, Arizona and Florida, the three states where anti-GLBT initiatives are on the ballot. </b></p>
<p>From day one McCain and Obama have relentlessly competed to win the trophy for pandering to bigots using same sex marriage as a wedge issue.  The polls say that Obama won that race. His tedious petition of his prejudices about same sex marriage is a green light to bigots to vote against us. When Obama attacked same sex marriage using the phrase â€œgodâ€™s in the mixâ€ he that same sex marriage is a sin and secondly that the clueless bigotry of the christians is sanctioned from â€œOn Highâ€. Letâ€™s have a big down home hallelujah for Brother Obamaâ€¦ the bigot. </p>
<p>And his supine apologists, whoâ€™ve believe anything, accept anything and defend anything he does, over and over, are getting just a little old, and more than a little pathetic.   </p>
<p>The right wing and the christist bigots are so enthused by Obamaâ€™s bigotry that theyâ€™re running ads quoting him against us. That&#8217;s becasue Obama constantly says that same sex marriage is a sin, and that civil unions, which cements our second class status, are all that we deserve. And like George Wallace, another bigoted Democrat and enemy of civil rights, Obama is quite content to let the â€˜stateâ€™s rightsâ€™ dogma, which had it origins in the slavocracy&#8217;s demand to be allowed to extend slavery, to be his guide, allowing state DOMAs to mistreat us. </p>
<p>With Democrats like that who needs Republicans?  </p>
<p>Donâ€™t get caught voting for bigots. Vote against McCain and the other Republican bigots. Vote against Obama and the other Democrat bigots. If the union led Labor Party gets on the ballot despite the roadblocks placed by the Democrat party then vote for them, or for any socialist or communist candidates or write someone in or just skip it like millions of disgusted working people do every four years. </p>
<p><b> <i> WHATEVER YOU DO, IF YOU LIVE IN ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA OR FLORIDA VOTE AGAINST THE BIGOT BALLOT ITITIATIVES.</i> </b></p>
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		<title>By: logan767</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92533</link>
		<dc:creator>logan767</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t believe you all are trying to justify obama&#039;s non-support of gay marriage.  first of all, if marriage is solely a religious sacrament to be carried out by the church, then get rid of ALL marriage performed by the government, or for that matter anywhere outside a church.  this justification is absolute bullshit.  marriage is a legal contract, and has mostly been for the sake of binding families, passing wealth, and securing power.  there are a million benefits - including social recognition - that come with marriage.  and the fact is separate will never be equal, as barack and all of us posting here should know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t believe you all are trying to justify obama&#8217;s non-support of gay marriage.  first of all, if marriage is solely a religious sacrament to be carried out by the church, then get rid of ALL marriage performed by the government, or for that matter anywhere outside a church.  this justification is absolute bullshit.  marriage is a legal contract, and has mostly been for the sake of binding families, passing wealth, and securing power.  there are a million benefits &#8211; including social recognition &#8211; that come with marriage.  and the fact is separate will never be equal, as barack and all of us posting here should know.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoodle</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#comment-92524</link>
		<dc:creator>Snoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that while he personally does not support gay marriage, it&#039;s nice to see he doesn&#039;t try to impose his beliefs on other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that while he personally does not support gay marriage, it&#8217;s nice to see he doesn&#8217;t try to impose his beliefs on other people.</p>
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