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Of Course The AFA Blames The Gays For Penn State’s Pedophile Scandal

 

We’ve kept fairly mum on the whole Penn State debacle this week—mainly because we were too disgusted by everyone’s behavior to crack wise, but also because we knew it was just a matter of time before someone roped the gays in as being the real culprits.

Thank you AFA shill Brian Fischer!

“It’s a simple stubborn fact that homosexuals molest children at much higher rates than the heterosexual population,” Fischer explains. Except that it’s a simple stubborn fact that accused molester Jerry Sandusky identified as heterosexual and was married with children. And also it’s a simple stubborn fact that that most molesters are men who prey on girls.

Fischer trots out the old canard that gay men are “ten times” more likely to be child molesters, but he doesn’t really back up his claim. He just throws out the names of a new British journals whose research methods have been called into serious question. (They only surveyed convicted pedophiles, for example.)

So yes, some homosexuals molest children but not because they’re gay.

That’s all besides the point, though—Sandusky (who is a straight married man with two sons by the way) is a monster no matter what his orientation. His crimes are not what make this whole situation so outrageous. In fact, men like Sandusky barely make the newspaper anymore. It was the organized cover-up by people in charge—people who should’ve known better—that is so reprehensible. (Gosh, that sounds awfully familiar.)

So where is the outrage from Fischer, Maggie Gallagher, etc. at the Penn State staffers, the rioting students and the knee-jerk sportswriters putting a damn football game ahead of the welfare of innocents?

After all, as Jesus said in Matthew 19:14, “Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of Heaven.” We’re pretty sure the Son of God didn’t say “no one cometh unto the Father, save through Saturday’s big game.”

Fischer needs to get his priorities straight.

By:           Daniel Villarreal
On:           Nov 11, 2011
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  • 33 Comments
    • James UK
      James UK

      Fischer et al have got their priorities straight.

      Their priority is to bash the gays. They don’t give a shit about the kids.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • v
      v

      This sick het sports culture…football as religion and a holy calling,then the leadership closes ranks to protect that sick fuck Sandusky and the “sanctity” of Penn State and ST.JoePa. More like the $$$$$

      Nov 11, 2011 at 2:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      QUEERTY claimed, “Fischer trots out the old canard that gay men are “ten times” more likely to be child molesters, but he doesn’t really back up his claim. He just throws out the names of a new British journals whose research methods have been called into serious question. (They only surveyed convicted pedophiles, for example.)”

      The link to a UC Davis web page listed a study that surveyed convicted pedophiles, but none of the men in the study were attracted primarily to adult men (it’s hard to get data on not-yet-convicted pedophiles since they have a strong self-interest in not admitting to criminal behavior). I’ve enclosed a quote below. The distinction between fixated and regressed is that fixated refers to a primary attraction to children whereas regressed refers to people who are usually attracted to adults but under stress or some other unusual condition find themselves temporarily attracted to children. The quote follows:

      “Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as “fixated;” 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that “in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women….There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males…” ”

      So, of the 13% who were bisexual, they were more attracted to women than to men. They didn’t find anyone in a sample of 175 adult males convicted of a sexual assault against a child who was primarily attracted to adult men. 13% is, given the expected sampling error, roughly the fraction of bisexuals in the population as a whole (and this is with a rather loose definition of bisexual since occasional but rare sexual encounters with other men would be enough to qualify).

      Nov 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • roger
      roger

      i knew it was a matter of time beore some football jerk vomited up this kind of homophobia, i say they should scrap all the football/sports programs and concentrat on education. thses school spend way too much money on sports when they should spend it on students educations. he could benefit by being educated instead of making ignorant remarks. im glad heads are rolling at penn state. he is a prime example of the mentality that would look the other way so as not to jeapordise his football program. its the fault of a pedophile and those who made the decision to look the other way, not gays

      Nov 11, 2011 at 2:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jacob Woods
      Jacob Woods

      fischer is nothing but a master at skewing statistics. He claimed that gay and bi men were more likely to die younger, he was using information from a journal researching aids/hiv in gay and bisexual men. What a nut job. The sad thing is, there is a type of illiteracy out there where people don’t critically consume what they are reading. It’s totally absurd.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 3:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • christopher di spirito
      christopher di spirito

      What took place at Penn State is an example of America’s sports culture run amok.

      Mike McQueary, a Penn State assistant coach told a grand jury he had witnessed former defensive coach Jerry Sandusky, now 67, raping an 8-year old boy in the showers.

      He reportedly told legendary coach Joe Paterno and Paterno failed to call the police.

      The game must go on. Nothing can interfere with a win. Even child rape.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 3:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Robert in NYC
      Robert in NYC

      I wonder what the AFA and others would be saying if all of the victims had been females?

      Nov 11, 2011 at 3:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • macmantoo
      macmantoo

      @Robert in NYC: He would say it was the lesbians that were making him do it. This guy (and others like him) will use any excuse to blame us for a prblems. I’m waiting for the collasp of the financial world to be blamed on us. Just give it time.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      What happened here, is the failure of the eye witnesses to immediately go to the police. You see an adult doing something to a kid, you go to the cops, not your boss.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 5:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jim Hlavac
      Jim Hlavac

      Oh, brace yourselves gentlemen — the accusations against “homosexuality” are just beginning. Fischer is just the first. Oh, wait till the story gets clearer, and the police reports issued, and the trials approach — and what is going to happen is that thousands of posts across hundreds of blogs are going to bring up “see, this is what happens when homosexuals …” you fill in the blank. The FRC, NOM, every preacher against us — even many in the press — there all going to get into the slug fest against us gay guys — and how we shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near … fill in the blank. And the psychiatrists and psychologists and experts galore are going to be brought forth to discuss “homosexual rapes of children.” This is just the beginning.

      Right now it’s shock, and the cover up, and the firings and the riots — but soon it will move to other things. And not a gay person in the world will be brought into the fore to say a word. We’re the guilty — for what these hetero family men did — that will be the take.

      And if gay rights groups had a brain they would start issuing statements condemning this — and they would assign a staff member to find every single study and statistic that all show that gay men are not molesters or molested — and have it at the ready to counter the coming onslaught. Egad, this man Sandusky has wrecked our struggle in ways we can barely imagine it.

      And no where in all of this will be the searing reality that not a boy molested by the hetero married men and the clergy galore has ever turned out gay. Oh, it’s going to get ugly.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 8:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Hal Shipman
      Hal Shipman

      @Jim (related to Brian?) – Yes, and part of your last sentence is also key. Show me one of these assholes that’s out. They need to make the point that it’s the “straight” married dudes that are the issue. Not the openly gay men.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 9:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MKe
      MKe

      They want to blame this on us but this Sandusky pedophile was living in a ‘non gay’ lifestyle. People know that being comfortable and honest about your sexuality, whether youre straight or gay, is the best defense against pedophilia.

      Nov 11, 2011 at 9:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ewe
      ewe

      Rape of young boys is done mostly by heterosexually identified males.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 2:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Henry
      Henry

      @ewe: Listen to Charles Rozier, he would know.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 1:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Greg (other Greg)
      Greg (other Greg)

      ‘We’re pretty sure the Son of God didn’t say “no one cometh unto the Father, save through Saturday’s big game.”’

      A 10 year old boy is too young to cometh. As I recall (dimly), when you’re ten you can beateth off, and playeth around, but you can’t cometh yet.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 4:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      Get caught in a scandal? Blame the gays! It’s the bigots’ M.O. Not surprised at all.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 4:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mario
      Mario

      I wonder what Bryan Singer thinks about this.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 5:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      And let’s not forget the straight guys (married with children) who seek out porn with titles such as “Schoolgirl Fantasies” or “Pigtails at Bedtime”.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 6:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      Robert in NYC,

      Yes, exactly right. If the victims were females, Bryan Fischer and the mainstream media would be less outraged.

      Also, if it was a female coach doing this to boys or girls, there’d be less outrage.

      The mainstream media, along with Bryan Fischer, has a double standard which reeks of male-specific homophobia. Male-specific homophobia is very common in America, and stretches all the way from the porn industry to the mainstream media.

      There needs to be less confected media outrage and more concentration on the how and why of allowing predators like Sandusky near children in the first place.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 6:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • innocentbystander
      innocentbystander

      @Robert in NYC: They’d be saying that they asked for it and deserved it, of course. If there’s anything that fundies hate more than gays, it’s women.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 6:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael
      Michael

      Wow, it’s getting really old hearing these closet cases try to blame this on being gay when the plain fact is this coach was NOT gay. It’s really a shame we can’t bring a class action lawsuit for defamation against these organizations because they know damn well they’re spreading lies.

      Nov 12, 2011 at 8:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jnik
      jnik

      After reading the report on what happened, I am SHOCKED!
      Who knew Penn State was a Catholic school?

      Nov 13, 2011 at 3:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ...
      ...

      Predatory homosexual. No way around it. Your tapdancing only makes the case more pathetic and your sidestepping more embarrassing. Just own it.

      Nov 13, 2011 at 5:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @jnik: That was a pretty bigoted and stupid remark. You make the same silly generalizations that people make when they deaw conclusions about us based on what one person did.

      Nov 13, 2011 at 5:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Caliban
      Caliban

      This was my response to comments on Yahoo trying to blame gays for this:

      “Child abuse statistics are clear. It is NOT openly gay men who parents need to fear around their children. They’re already told you who they are and what they want, other consenting adult men. It’s men like Sandusky, married STRAIGHT-identified (what their sexuality “really” is is a matter of debate) who are “so good with kids” and go out of their way to spend a lot of time with them, especially alone. Coaches. Scoutmasters. Priests.

      If you think about it, it only makes sense. If you are a predator, in order to get close to your prey you have to make yourself seem as harmless as possible. Thanks to erroneous stereotypes, parents are generally more watchful of gay men around children so that is NOT a successful strategy for a pedophile. They aren’t going to identify as gay because it doesn’t fit the “cover” they need in order to abuse children, which is their primary goal.

      According to child sexual abuse statistics, as a rule openly gay men don’t abuse children. Not that it has never happened, but statistically it’s rare. Also, most victims of sexual abuse are girls but you don’t hear anybody citing that as an indictment against all straight men. So stop using this as an excuse to hate gay men. Jerry Sandusky is a MARRIED man who would probably have punched you in the face if you called him gay.

      And think about this: How much do you want to bet that if that big, tough ex-quarterback who walked away from Sandusky raping a child had walked in on two college-age men in the showers he would have thrown a FIT and they’d be kicked off the team? He, Paterno, and all the other Penn State sports “heroes” would kick openly gay players off their team in a NY minute, congratulating themselves on how “moral” they are, but they let a KNOWN pedophile continue abusing children for YEARS rather than endanger their lucrative football program and their own “hero” status.

      But something like this happens and who do people want to blame? Gay men. Well F U, because no matter what goes on in Sandusky’s sick head he sure as heck NEVER claimed to be gay. You were more than happy to claim him as one of your own before this, so don’t be trying to put him on anybody else now you know what he’s been up to. This one is YOURS, baby because we don’t know him.”

      Nov 13, 2011 at 2:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      Paul Cameron created the pseudo science behind this “simple stubborn fact”, but who’s to say the lie isn’t the truth? I mean he is the guy who invented the “smoking ban” and has been largely successful implementing it throughout the US. Nobody likes gays, so we’ll make up some lies, defeat gays. Simple, kinda like being Karl Rove without the public persona.

      Shit heads like this win everyday in America, I know tons of straight peeps who would take delight in this fact, while spewing “I have nothing against you, BTW”. When will gays realize how stupidly regressive American breeder culture really is, and stab the connivers back in the fucking throats, where they live and breathe? Time’s comin’, people.

      We need to talk about breeding while broken. Unemployed Christians running rackets to destroy the American hetero family, homos first. Real shit. Pull your heads out.

      Nov 13, 2011 at 3:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the crustybastard
      the crustybastard

      There’s another pedo scandal unfolding over at The Citadel. Yet another married straight man used teaching, sports and (seriously!) invitations to Bible Study “lock-ins” in order to prey on boys. http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011/nov/07/child-molester/

      Parents: Watch your kids very closely when they’re around Christian heterosexual married male coaches.

      And Jason, as usual, you are wrong. The reason that man-on-boy attacks are treated with extraordinary gravity is because — unlike male attacks on women and girls — nobody is willing to manufacture a reason why the boy would have provoked their rape.

      In other words, boys wouldn’t be presumed to “dress too provocatively,” boys wouldn’t be presumed to “falsely claim rape from regret or revenge,” boys wouldn’t be presumed to seduce a superior to “get ahead,” etc.

      You are also wrong about female perps in pedo scandals. Probably the most infamous pedo scandal of all involved Mary Kay Latorneau who did 7 years in prison then married Vili Fualaau, the now-adult victim. There was also media furor over the cases of Debra Lafave and Pamela Joan Rogers.

      But I know you never get tired of being wrong or hating women. Freak.

      Nov 13, 2011 at 6:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bard
      Bard

      @22 Penn State is NOT a Catholic university.

      Joe Paterno told people who were higher up who should have taken legal action against Sandusky but the board of Trustees did nothing.

      Nov 14, 2011 at 3:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ivan
      Ivan

      Bard, Did St. Joe confront Sandusky about what he was told? Did St. Joe contact the police, does he know how to use a phone? Yes the Trustees did nothing, but St. Joe did nothing too!

      Nov 14, 2011 at 2:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 24 · B (different one from the one who posted No 3) wrote, “@jnik: That was a pretty bigoted and stupid remark. You make the same silly generalizations that people make when they deaw conclusions about us based on what one person did.”

      … just to make it clear who said what.

      Nov 16, 2011 at 1:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 13 · ewe wrote, “Rape of young boys is done mostly by heterosexually identified males.”

      Not exactly. The article I cited above in No 3 stated that “Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as “fixated;” 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that “in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women….There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males…””

      In other words, 40% were heterosexual men. Of the rest, 13% were bisexual men but more attracted to women then to men, and 47% did not have an adult sexual orientation (which is what “fixated” means — their development was arrested before the point where a normal attraction to people of the same or opposite sex occurs).

      They didn’t find any men in their sample that were purely gay in their adult sexual orientation, but that does not mean there aren’t any – the sample only contained 175 individuals making it easy to miss categories that account for 1% or less.

      Nov 16, 2011 at 2:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 29 · Ivan wrote, “Bard, Did St. Joe confront Sandusky about what he was told? Did St. Joe contact the police, does he know how to use a phone?”

      You’ll have to ask him about the phone, but according to http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-sandusky-allegedly-admitted-inappropriate-behavior/story?id=14912372&page=2 “Paterno released a statement Sunday saying he ‘did what (he) was supposed to do’ by reporting the incident only to his supervisor, Curly. Curly and his supervisor, Gary Schultz, did not report the incident to police. They then told Spanier that Sandusky had been seen acting inappropriately with a boy in the showers and had therefore restricted his access to campus grounds. Spanier approved, and did not contact the police. Under Pennsylvania state law, only Curly and Schultz were responsible for contacting the police to report the incident, according to the attorney general.”

      Exactly what went on isn’t clear, and the precise reason he was fired is not known publicly. Meanwhile Sandusky is denying that any sexual abuse took place, but
      admitted that there was some “horse play” (whatever that is supposed to mean), and it
      took the grand jury several years to decide to indict him, suggesting that the case
      must be a pretty complicated one. It’s probably wise not to try to guess – it doesn’t hurt to wait until all the facts come out during a trial.

      Nov 16, 2011 at 3:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Disgusted
      Disgusted

      I love how everyone here seems to be ignoring the very cushy relationship LGBTs have had with NAMBLA. Look it up. These guys routinely marched in gay pride and were only pulled out after the media took it up as issue in the 90s. I was never convinced by the distancing language gays esp gay men use because they were clearly only ditched when it became apparent to you that they were a hinderance to winning over public opinion. So yes, I agree that paedophilia is primarily about power. However, gays especially gay men just simply do not have the same aversion to this crime as NORMAL people do. Discuss.

      Nov 16, 2011 at 6:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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