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Over 400,000 Traditionalists Participate In Violent Anti-Gay Marriage Riot In Paris

samuelparis_1714029cFrench police have confirmed over 400,000 people in attendance at the mass anti-gay marriage protest held in Paris this weekend. The event, which converged at Les Invalides on Sunday, was regarded by many protestors as a last-ditch effort to combat a new law legalizing same-sex marriage.

The bill, signed into law by President Francois Hollande, made France the 14th country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage. Though it was officially adopted last week, France’s first gay wedding is set to take place this Wednesday.

Over 4,500 riot police were dispatched to handle the increasingly unruly crowds. Countless arrests were made, most often in connection with illegal teargas canisters and fireworks being used as weapons.

The Independent reports:

About 200 young people, many of them masked, pelted police lines with bottles, stones, fireworks and flares. The crowd – led bizarrely at one stage by a lone bagpiper – chased and beat up TV crews and press photographers. Police and gendarmes responded with tear gas and baton charges.

There were surreal battle scenes on the Esplanade des Invalides beside the foreign ministry as 200 gendarmes in riot gear formed into defensive squares to beat off attacks from running bands of protesters. Although a hard core of about 200 hard-right youths started the fighting, many hundreds of other, soberly dressed, middle-class protesters cheered them on.

Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayraul warned politicians in favor of the mass demonstration, reminding them of “a heavy responsibility” taken by “sparking tension and radicalisation.”

Today, Paris police are tasked with cleanup efforts and restoring normalcy in the town center. France’s first same-sex marriage is still scheduled for this Wednesday.

By:           Matthew Tharrett
On:           May 27, 2013
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  • 25 Comments
    • Dakotahgeo
      Dakotahgeo

      sounds like the police need a few “street sweepers over there to control the crowds. That would do the trick!

      May 27, 2013 at 10:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alexoloughlin
      alexoloughlin

      Wait a minute, yesterday the French police confirmed it was 200,000. The BBC received reports it was 150,000. Manif pour Tous said it was in excess of 1 million. Either way, miniscule for a population of 65 million.

      May 27, 2013 at 12:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alexoloughlin
      alexoloughlin

      According to today’s Le Figaro a right wing French paper, Frigide Barjot has called for an end to the demonstrations, saying Manif pour Tous is over. Sure, the coward couldn’t take the heat for the violence she helped unleash and being tarnished with that religious loon who shot himself in the head last week. Brian Brown beware!

      May 27, 2013 at 12:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • whatisthis
      whatisthis

      This shit pisses me off. What the hell is wrong with people? Becoming this fucking violent over GAY MARRIAGE? Of ALL things? It’s absolutely disgusting.

      That’s all.

      May 27, 2013 at 12:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • litper
      litper

      Homophobes know they loose thats why they’re so angry

      May 27, 2013 at 12:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo
      2eo

      I wholly condone the reprisal attacks that have resulted in 2 deaths of high ranking right wing Vichy scum nutters, I hope they continue until every one is bleeding in the gutter where they belong.

      Should have gassed them during the war. Least my grandad killed a load of them.

      [Yes, I am serious]

      May 27, 2013 at 12:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Caleb in SC
      Caleb in SC

      My advice to virulently straight people: If you don’t believe in gay marriage, don’t go to one.

      In any regard, the French are a stinky and rude people. The only thing that redeems them is their use of better and cheese.

      May 27, 2013 at 12:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ogre Magi
      Ogre Magi

      @whatisthis: That is what Christianity is all about

      May 27, 2013 at 1:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charles175
      Charles175

      For now we are gaining equality. As long as societies are living in relative comfort, the gains will continue. I know that there are some that will think that I’m nuts but this is my prediction:

      When the economy collapses, a similar thing but in a different way will occure. What happened to Germany post WWI will happen here, just in a repackaged way and form. That country was beaten down and at it’s most vulnerable low point. Desperate Germany hastilly accepted anything to come out of her situation. In this extremists seized upon oportunity and a dictator with wonderful promises for her to rise from her ashes took over the country. During our relatively prosperous times, times of unconcern, the pendulum has swung to the left, and at times, to the far left. Soon it will swing to the equal yet opposite far right. It will be the resurgence in, as well as the new acceptance of, religious based Fundamentalism. This along with the widespread creation and mindset of a new sect of ultra-conservatism. These two being bedfellows, will seize power. History always has (in one way or another) found a way of repeating itself.

      May 27, 2013 at 1:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sweet Boy
      Sweet Boy

      @Caleb in SC: The French maybe rude and stinky, but they have done something the US has not done….granting equal rights to all of its citizens

      And to those stinky rude demonstrators…ALLEZ VOUS FAIRE FOUTRE!!!!

      May 27, 2013 at 2:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      For a lot of people in this world, being born heterosexual is the only thing they’ve got going for them in this life. They want to keep gays second class citizens so that they can feel superior….atleast as far as sexuality is concerned.

      May 27, 2013 at 7:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dugout
      dugout

      @ Charles175 It’s already happened here in the US. Or at least the corporations think it has. But, the Libertarians are torn. They want their centrists back! and They’ll be the ones to fight or flee the “secular religion” of ultra cons in the US. We’re just the expendable punching bags, of course. Most of them hunker down and keep sanding the faces off of their silver ingots. The others are completely out of touch loons starting personality cults via counter cultural rip offs and crappy misinformation/communications networks. There’s a reckoning going on over on the right, but the confusion will gel into something. You’re right on that point. Meanwhile, somewhere in Austria can ‘o beans means one can for you, “cans” for me. As many as I wants, sugar.

      May 28, 2013 at 1:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • NotStr8Acting
      NotStr8Acting

      @Kieran: I always believed gays and lesbians are the superior. From my personal experiences, we gays and lesbians are more compassionate, worldly, artistic, passionate, educated, loving, interesting, intriguing compared to our straight counter parts. When people ask “would you be straight if you could?” I always answer no. I love being gay because I genuinely find the LGBT community more interesting than heteros. I really do.

      May 28, 2013 at 2:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tardis
      tardis

      I can’t believe this story is coming out of France. I always thought they were more progressive. This reaction is way over the top. I don’t understand what influence or affect the marriage of a handful of minorities is going to have on the marriage of the minority. And this is France!

      May 28, 2013 at 3:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Billysees
      Billysees

      @NotStr8Acting: No. 13

      Nice comment.

      Truthful.

      May 28, 2013 at 3:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Merv
      Merv

      @alexoloughlin: Let’s not be in denial. These are massive demonstrations by any standard.

      May 28, 2013 at 5:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • frankiefrancisco
      frankiefrancisco

      How bizarre!! Whatever happened to “Gay Paris”, the capitol of fashion and good taste. The majority of the demonstrators must not be born and raised Parisians. How tasteless! Oh well I guess even France has gone caca!

      May 28, 2013 at 7:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      I thought this article was interesting. My favorite line, “Gay men were probably our first spiritual leaders. Our Shamans. In that social position, they would have been free to expect that their words would be heard, they would have been able to exploit their cognitive skills to the maximum, and they would have been able to access many altered states of consciousness that would’ve been unavailable to others.”

      Thinking about Gay Male Brains.

      Todd Murphy, 1999

      There is one brain part, called the anterior commissure, that’s bigger in gay men’s brains than in those of heterosexual males. Most of my thoughts here are about looking at what that might mean, and how it might appear. (Reference)

      So, what’s it do?

      It connects two structures together. The amygdala on each side of the brain.

      So, what does the amygdala do?

      Its a very, very emotional structure. And it’s fast. If you suddenly notice a bus heading toward you, and you feel a ‘burst’ of fear, that’s your amygdala; the one on the right. If you feel a burst of elation when someone looks at you with attraction in their eyes, that’s your amygdala, too; the one on the left.

      A gay man’s brain has more connections between the opposite emotional centers than other brains.

      The amygdala does an important kind of recognition, too. It recognizes other people, or more importantly, how they’re feeling. It responds to facial expressions, tones of voice, and, I’d guess, body language as well.

      My guess is that its important in seeing potential mates, and so, its the part that knows who you’re attracted to, gay, straight, transsexual, bisexual or whatever.

      The gay male brain uses the same parts to be attracted to a man that I use to be attracted to a woman.

      I cannot help but wonder if the extra connections might allow extra recognition skills, and a wider sense of what a person’s meaning might be. When a male brain selects people of the same gender as the focus for sexual feelings, it gives its owner a set of concerns and needs in common with women. Men become the people they want to be with, forcing them to pay attention to men’s needs, and women become the object of identification, at least in some ways. At the same time they ARE men, so they still have to identify there, too. As a straight man, an attractive woman ‘means’ something very different to me than she does to a gay man. And guess what? The amygdala mediates our experience of ‘meaningfulness’.

      Such a person would be able to empathize with a very large portion of the total population; larger than heterosexuals of either gender.

      Most evolutionary biologists will agree that if a species preserves a trait, its because that trait helps that species survive, or at least did so when it first emerged.

      One of the traits of the human species is that close 10 percent (the number changes according to who does the counting) of our populations are gay. If Darwin (and some others) are right, the our species needed gay males when we first appeared, and we might need them now.

      What for?

      Well, gay men do not compete with straight men for one thing, but they understand many, if not most, uniquely male concerns, because they are men.

      And they share enough in common with women that they understand women’s concerns, too. Many lesbians are a bit taken aback by how indifferent many gay men are to feminist political concerns, but those aren’t the women’s concerns I mean. I’m talking about such things as ‘cognitive style’, ‘linguistic patterns’ and other things that you need a special dictionary to get.

      Gay males might have enhanced their tribe’s ability to respond to danger quickly. Their voice in the councils of the first human tribes could have been a profound advantage.

      There are two things that help an individual be heard in human cultures. One is to be the boss, and the other is to have as few conflicts with others as possible.

      Gay males, being less interested in war than other males, do not conflict with their tribal neighbors.

      They do not compete with straight males for sexual opportunities,

      And, they do not compete with women over the resources for their young. A hundred thousand years ago, this was probably VERY important. It takes a decade to raise a child, at least. In a ten-year period, most of our young probably had to live through at least one lean season. When it was going on, the gay man only had to find food for one. But he was quite strong and intelligent to find food for several, just like anyone else, if it was to be had at all.

      Our species arose 100,000 years ago, and we were hunters and gatherers. Most of these societies today are a loose kind of democracy, and the chiefs don’t really have the power to command obedience from anybody. Decisions were and are made in councils. In our earliest history, these decisions were sometimes a matter of life and death. Making sure that our populations produced some individuals who had extra empathetic skills might have given us more intelligent leadership than otherwise. The larger anterior commissure implies that gay males might be more able to perceive meaningfulness, too. “Meaningfulness” is an amygdaloid function – innocuous things become omens, possibly selected because the event taken as the omen has some association with a concern among one’s people. (Stimulate your amygdala – learn more here)

      One example might be what a storm cloud means when its windy outside. The extra left/right connectivity in gay males would give them a greater sense of the nuances and subtle implications of events in their world. Being men, however, they would have a greater ability to articulate their subtler perceptions, because the male brain is more ‘single-tasking’ than the female brain; it is more likely to use one or two areas at a time – including the language centers.

      Because gay males have more communication between the hemispheres, they perceive non-verbal information (including the sort we call intuitive) more readily then straight males. Because they still possess male brains, their cognitive processes are more focused (less multitasking) than they would be in women, allowing them an advantage in getting non-verbal information into words, where it can be shared with others. An intuition becomes a channeled voice. A dream contains spoken instructions. A gay male, all other conditions being equal, was more able to go from a sense-that-something-is-wrong to seeing and describing a specific danger. They might also be better able to find ways to improve things, be more comfortable, and stay healthy.

      Consider the stereotype that gay men are ‘esthete’ – they are gourmets when eating, film critics when seeing movies, interior designers at home, and fashion and grooming experts in front of mirrors. Nothing but the best. Now, imagine that same trait 100,000 years ago, and add to it the caveat that people acted for their tribe as much as for themselves, there being little one could claim as one’s own. Nothing but the best and most sheltered campsite. Nothing but the clearest water. Everyone should be clean and attractive (by whatever standard his nation held) – as much as possible. With their extra emotional sensitivity, they would encourage people to be nice to one another. Further, freedom from many of the usual social obligations – like the need to let others save face – could allow gay males to be more vocal than other males might be. Someone demanding the best for himself in those days would have had to demand the best for the whole tribe.

      I know I’m making many generalizations here, and many gay men do not fit the stereotype, but my point is that gay male traits, though held by only a few, can benefit many.

      When a gay male had an opinion, a hundred thousand years ago, his people probably listened.

      In our earliest evolutionary history, as hunter/gatherers, we were better able to survive our crises, and to avoid them when we could, by having a group with a different set of cognitive skills who tended to avoid the conflicts that were most pressing to everybody else. They probably were important peacemakers in our first cultures. And peace is one thing that we need to survive, and to raise our young.

      One study found that women who were pregnant in Berlin at the end of World War Two delivered a slightly higher percentage of gay male children than others. Perhaps the response to war is to try and deliver more peacemakers.

      That may be why our gene pool contains instructions for making our populations include 10 percent gay males.

      So why should this man, and not that man, be gay?

      There is a process that could create this difference. The emergence of a recessive, neotanous trait.

      Neotany is the name used when an adult in a species retains a childhood trait. The best-know example is human curiosity. Other primate species are as curious as our children, but it stops with puberty. Our adults are capable of retaining the trait their whole lives.

      Brains don’t grow uniformly. They grow in steps. First one part grows outstrips the others, then another gets bigger. Then another. Then another.

      My guess (speculation) is that there is a phase in the growth of every male brain when the anterior commissure has outstripped its neighboring structures. I also guess that there is a trigger that signals when its time for the anterior commissure to stop growing.

      And that, in gay males, this trigger is absent. This kind of adaptation is called “Neoteny”

      Some gay men say that they’ve ‘always known’ they were gay. Others have said that there was a single decisive sexual experience that brought it out.

      Its possible that the anterior commissure has two growth spurts when it might be able to shed its ‘stop growing’ trigger. One during in the womb, and another after birth, but before puberty. Perhaps there are several such ‘windows of opportunity’ in the development of a man’s brain. There isn’t enough evidence at this point to prove or disprove the case. The simplest thing I can imagine is an environmental ‘cue’ of some sort, either in the womb or in the environment.

      One more thing about the anterior commissure. Its in the limbic system, and the limbic system is now the strongest contender as the source, within the brain, of religious and mystic experiences. There are scores of studies to support this, most of them published in medical journals, and are still unknown in spiritual teachings.

      Nevertheless, a conclusion appears: Gay men were probably our first spiritual leaders. Our Shamans. In that social position, they would have been free to expect that their words would be heard, they would have been able to exploit their cognitive skills to the maximum, and they would have been able to access many altered states of consciousness that would’ve been unavailable to others.

      The trust and respect that a skilled gay shaman might have been able to command might allow him to induce the placebo effect in other during times of illness, too.

      Gay men may once have healed their people, led them spirituality, soothed interpersonal conflicts, and help them anticipate and avoid threats to their survival.

      Who knows? Perhaps gay male sexual preference is a by-product of a specific group of cognitive and emotional skills that helped us survive – skills that may be expensive for the individual gay man, but were essential for the population as a whole.

      A 100 percent heterosexual population might have gone extinct.

      But then, we don’t have a 100 percent straight population, do we?

      May 28, 2013 at 8:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alexoloughlin
      alexoloughlin

      @Merv: @Merv: Massive? Out of roughly 65 million people, 400,000 equals 0.006% of the population. 4 million would have been massive and more significant.

      May 28, 2013 at 8:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Avenger
      Avenger

      Doesn’t matter if France has 65 million citizens, 400k people showing up to any kind of protest rally is still an astronomical number.

      Good for them too. The people of France are pushing back against legalized depravity.

      May 28, 2013 at 12:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • erasure25
      erasure25

      @Avenger: What legalized depravity? That its ok to use violence? How neanderthalic. The only depravity here would be people like you using violence like uncivilized cavemen to try and change politics. But then, your side has always resorted to cavemen violence haven’t they. Your kind beats up gays, kill “witches’, lynch blacks, all in the name of religion. How I pity your small mind and small heart and small brain.

      May 28, 2013 at 12:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dakotahgeo
      Dakotahgeo

      @erasure25: You give Avenger too much credit. He has neither of the three aforementioned.

      May 28, 2013 at 12:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LandStander
      LandStander

      @erasure25: Didn’t you see the sign? “Please do not feed the trolls.”

      May 28, 2013 at 5:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Pete
      Pete

      At the risk of being extremely politically incorrect, the size of this demonstration may speak to France’s larger problem of having far too many Muslims, especially in the Parisian banlieue.

      May 29, 2013 at 12:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Billysees
      Billysees

      France is in Rome’s backyard, and the CC can’t cope with Gay marriage so close by.

      This religious propaganda media empire will do anything to stop it where they can have any influence.

      May 29, 2013 at 11:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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