Comments on: Passage… http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:50:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: um http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-55176 um Wed, 14 May 2008 17:36:36 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-55176 clearly mccain will support the ban in arizona. i was merely pointing out how poorly written the post was. clearly mccain will support the ban in arizona. i was merely pointing out how poorly written the post was.

]]> By: Tom http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54988 Tom Tue, 13 May 2008 20:10:30 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54988 Don't know if I agree with you on marriage being a fundamental right, but I certainly believe that gays have a fundamental right to the civil benefits which are attendant to marriage. I think we stood a better chance of receiving those benefits through civil unions. Twenty-six states now have constitutional bans on gay marriage with more states seeking to follow, including an initiative in California and this one in AZ. Many of these states are now also looking to rollback the gains provided by civil unions. It was a complete miscalculation and put form over substance to push for gay marriage when the prize should be on the benefits received. Bill, considering your Marxist-type analysis of every issue, I am surprised you do not see this. Don’t know if I agree with you on marriage being a fundamental right, but I certainly believe that gays have a fundamental right to the civil benefits which are attendant to marriage. I think we stood a better chance of receiving those benefits through civil unions.

Twenty-six states now have constitutional bans on gay marriage with more states seeking to follow, including an initiative in California and this one in AZ. Many of these states are now also looking to rollback the gains provided by civil unions.

It was a complete miscalculation and put form over substance to push for gay marriage when the prize should be on the benefits received. Bill, considering your Marxist-type analysis of every issue, I am surprised you do not see this.

]]> By: Bill Perdue http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54977 Bill Perdue Tue, 13 May 2008 18:39:44 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54977 Democrats always seem to come through... but not for us. They’re the major political force behind bigoted laws and actions like DOMA, DADT, shredding ENDA and trashing the Hate Crimes bill. Sometimes they take the lead and sometimes it’s the Republicans. But it hardly makes a difference; we’re the ones getting stabbed in the back. Same sex marriage is a fundamental right and GLBT folks who cave in on the question are the GLBT equivalents of Uncle Toms. There, I said it. Rob Moore - "He will probably hide behind a state’s rights shield." Are you implying that he's a fraud like Obama and Hillary Clinton, because that's their position on same sex marriage? Democrats always seem to come through… but not for us. They’re the major political force behind bigoted laws and actions like DOMA, DADT, shredding ENDA and trashing the Hate Crimes bill. Sometimes they take the lead and sometimes it’s the Republicans. But it hardly makes a difference; we’re the ones getting stabbed in the back.

Same sex marriage is a fundamental right and GLBT folks who cave in on the question are the GLBT equivalents of Uncle Toms. There, I said it.

Rob Moore – “He will probably hide behind a state’s rights shield.” Are you implying that he’s a fraud like Obama and Hillary Clinton, because that’s their position on same sex marriage?

]]> By: Rob Moore http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54941 Rob Moore Tue, 13 May 2008 16:17:07 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54941 Um, John McCain will not do anything to alienate the fundies. They are suspicious of him as it is. If he doesn't renounce the support of Hagee, he ain't gonna offer an opinion opposed to such an amendment to the state constitution. He will probably hide behind a state's rights shield. Um, John McCain will not do anything to alienate the fundies. They are suspicious of him as it is. If he doesn’t renounce the support of Hagee, he ain’t gonna offer an opinion opposed to such an amendment to the state constitution. He will probably hide behind a state’s rights shield.

]]> By: um http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54937 um Tue, 13 May 2008 15:58:45 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54937 are you saying that John McCain is going to vote for this bill? because he is not in the Arizona State Senate--he serves in Washington, D.C. Also, McCain opposed the last constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in 2006 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/07/AR2006060700830.html Do you people ever fact check? are you saying that John McCain is going to vote for this bill? because he is not in the Arizona State Senate–he serves in Washington, D.C.

Also, McCain opposed the last constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00830.html

Do you people ever fact check?

]]> By: Tom http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54926 Tom Tue, 13 May 2008 14:57:41 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54926 Hopefully, those two Democratic traitors who supported the measure will lose to more progressive, free-thinking Democrats in the next election. The whole gay marriage movement has been a political disaster. There, I said it. Hopefully, those two Democratic traitors who supported the measure will lose to more progressive, free-thinking Democrats in the next election.

The whole gay marriage movement has been a political disaster. There, I said it.

]]> By: PalePhoenix http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54913 PalePhoenix Tue, 13 May 2008 14:07:31 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/passage-2-20080513/#comment-54913 It still has to go to the state Senate before it appears on any ballots in November. It still has to go to the state Senate before it appears on any ballots in November.

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