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Pastor Sean Harris: I Was Just Kidding When I Told People To Punch Their Gay Kids

Pastor Sean Harris of the Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, North Carolina, is claiming he misspoke when he told parishioners to “give a good punch” to their effeminate sons during a sermon on Sunday.

In his homophobic homily, Harris gave parents “a special dispensation” to “squash like a cockroach” any gay tendencies in their boys:

“Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see that son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give them a good punch. Okay? You’re not going to act like that—you were made by God to be a male and you’re going to be a male.”

He went on to tell his flock that, if a four-year old boy, for example, starts acting “a little girlish,” his father should tell him to “man up, son, get that dress off you get outside and dig a ditch—because that’s what boys do.”

Seriously? When we were four, most boys were playing tag and watching episodes of Sesame Street. Not a lot of ditch-digging going on.

His advise for parents of tomboys was less violent but equally abhorrent:

“And when your daughter starts acting too ‘butch,’ you rein her in. And you say, ‘Oh no. Oh no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play ‘em, play ‘em to the glory of God, but sometimes you’re going to act like a girl and talk like a girl and talk like a girl, and smell like a girl, and that means you’re going to be beautiful, you’re going to be attractive, you’re going to dress yourself up’.”

When the media jumped on Harris’ hate speech, though, he changed his tune tout suite. He told The Fayetteville Observer:

If I had to say it again, I would say it differently, no doubt. Those weren’t planned words, but what I do stand by is that the word of God makes it clear that effeminate behavior is ungodly. I’m not going to compromise on that.”

We understand—it’s not like it’s Harris’ job to give a well-considered speech on spirituality and morals every Sunday.

Harris was speaking in favor of North Carolina’s Amendment One, which would ban recognition of same-sex marriages, domestic partnerships, civil unions and any relationship outside of heterosexual marriage. He told the Observer that though the Bible makes it clear homosexuality is a sin, there was “not an ounce of hate being communicated,” in his sermon.  Oh, of course not.

What we want to know is if Harris can be brought up on charges. He literally incited his listeners to inflict bodily harm on four-year-olds. If we stood on a street corner and made similar suggestions, we’d probably have to answer to the cops. Why should Harris be protected because he was standing at a (bully) pulpit?

To make matters worse,  Berean Baptist Church operates a school from kindergarten to 12th grade. Harris swears teachers at the Berean Baptist Academy never lay hands on the students, but after Sunday’s rant, we think social services or the Department of Education should start sniffing around.

has a code of parental discipline on its website, supported by biblical references, that endorses spanking but adds that “we reject the idea that bruising is ever the objective when disciplining a child.”

If you have the stomach for such things, Good as You has the full audio of Harris’ sermon.

By:           Dan Avery
On:           May 2, 2012
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  • 70 Comments
    • Tom
      Tom

      Oh great the “just kidding” defense? I am sure that kids who get the shit beat out of them for “not being a real man” for having “limp wrists” (because there are definitely no gay athletes ever in the history of the world) are glad he was just kidding. I absolutely hate how people can say things promoting child or spouse abuse with a just kidding.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • desdemona
      desdemona

      um where does it say in the bible that effeminate behavior is ungodly?? It’s amazing how people just literally pull stuff out of their ass and claim it’s gods word. Why the hell is effeminate behavior ungodly? If someone is effeminate, it’s because it comes to them natural- nobody puts that kind of stuff on- especially a god damn four year old! This hacks the ungodly one.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Spike
      Spike

      Southern translation for ‘I was just kidding’ . . . No I wasn’t, but aren’t I charming.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rob
      Rob

      http://www.bbcfnc.org/seniorpastor.php

      May 2, 2012 at 11:17 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Clueless
      Clueless

      Great – contact details missing ! Anyone know where we can contact his employers and / or the school he works at ?

      May 2, 2012 at 11:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • xamthor
      xamthor

      Matthew 25: 40 “Truly I say to you , as you did it to one of the least of my brethren, you did it to me.”

      May 2, 2012 at 11:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Robert in NYC
      Robert in NYC

      Typical republican bigot!

      May 2, 2012 at 11:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dame
      Dame

      Is he in 5th grade or something? Just kidding???

      May 2, 2012 at 11:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gigi
      Gigi

      @Clueless: I e-mailed him and sent him a message yesterday on the church Facebook page before they deactivated that option. I don’t buy the “those weren’t planned words” argument. They don’t have to be planned to make them hateful, hurtful and ultimately very dangerous.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • steve
      steve

      well said!

      May 2, 2012 at 11:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rainbow
      Rainbow

      Can I punch paster Harris in the balls and stick my fist up his bum? Oh I’m “just kidding”….I didn’t plan these words……… He needs more then gods words to help him!!

      May 2, 2012 at 12:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WillBFair
      WillBFair

      @desdemona: I think it was said somewhere by that creep Saul of Tarsus, also known as St Paul. He has some kind of dig against effeminacy. I just can’t remember the actual line.

      May 2, 2012 at 12:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stupid
      Stupid

      Count down to Sean Harris being discovered with (a) male Craigslist trick in a hotel room (b) plainclothes cop in public restroom (c) gay hooker and a lot of meth. 10, 9, 8 ….

      May 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scott Rose
      Scott Rose

      Spread the word about this action. At the link below is the Berean Baptist Church’s Child Adoption website page. Click on the links to adoption agencies, call the adoption agencies, get to the executive director’s office of the agency and then ask if they will be insisting that the Berean Church remove the link to their adoption agency from the church’s website. Explain that the pastor is giving the parishioners instructions to beat children:
      http://www.bbcfnc.org/orphans.php

      May 2, 2012 at 12:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ogre Magi
      Ogre Magi

      I hate christians

      May 2, 2012 at 12:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris
      Chris

      @desdemona: This is a weird one. There’s a passage (“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (malakoi), nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (arsenokoites)” -1 Corinthians 6:9, KJV) which uses two words that are so obscure that no one knows what they mean. They don’t mean “homosexual” because there was a perfectly good word for that and Paul choose not to use it. However the modern homophobic translations always say homosexual. Historic translations have been all over the place.

      Literally malakoi means “soft men.” In other contexts the word means sniveling cowards. It is not clear what it means in this context.

      The other word, arsenokoites, appears to be a curse word, sort of like “motherfucker,” but an ancient commentator claimed it was a temple prostitute.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      I swear religion makes people stupid. Dangerously stupid. Here is just the latest in a long line of countless examples.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      Gee, what a shock a bigot was encouraging others to do his dirty bigoted work.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SWALLACE
      SWALLACE

      Rev. Sean should know better…he must need money, so something like this is now a joke??? People like that should be shot…they infect too many people, with their “‘jokes'”. No wonder this country is in such a mess.
      He should fuck himself.

      H

      May 2, 2012 at 1:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • loafersguy
      loafersguy

      Berean Baptist Church

      517 Glensford Drive Fayetteville, NC 28314

      (910) 868-5156

      Feel free to give them a call!

      May 2, 2012 at 1:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lizcivious
      lizcivious

      I would like to punch that smug look off his holy face! I listened to his sermon and it made my hair stand on end. He obviously harbors a hatred for women. The way he spits out the word “FEE-MALE” with such vitriol is frightening. I can’t believe any clergyman gives sermons that haven’t been carefully written beforehand. What a piece of scum this man is. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have a contact section on his Berean site. (Has it been deactivated, I wonder?) I would like to send him the link to one of those articles claiming that the more homophobic a person is, the more likely he is to be a latent gay.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kenny
      kenny

      Dearies…he’s gay.

      Someone ought to let his wife know.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Common Sense
      Common Sense

      The Bible does talk about being effeminate maybe you should read it some times. The teachers never harm students at Berean Baptist Academy. It was a joke. Honestly you people need to find something else to get all riled up about. It doesn’t involve or affect you.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Clueless
      Clueless

      @No. 23 – it’s called compassion and charity, virtues that Pastor Harris is obviously unfamiliar with considering his endorsement of violence. And why are you posting here ? It doesn’t involve / affect you !

      May 2, 2012 at 2:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dan
      Dan

      He’s on Twitter and has a blog: http://pastorseansblog.blogspot.com/

      @Pastor_Sean

      May 2, 2012 at 2:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Darlie Brewster
      Darlie Brewster

      He is a liar! He lies about everything! His apology says he is sorry and then he repeats his bullshit about it being a crime against god. What an asshole !

      May 2, 2012 at 2:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Andy
      Andy

      TAX CHURCHES: No special rights for bigots.

      May 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HM
      HM

      “The Word Of God” to men like this is simply every word coming out of their own meglamaniacal mouth…..

      May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HM
      HM

      @ ‘common sense’. The Bible talks about touching the skin of a dead animal. Honestly, you people need to lay off the gays and start picketing NFL games…

      And the Bible doesn’t talk one word. It’s a book. Books don’t talk.

      Fucked up idiots talk. And then they claim the Bible for their own, and talk…and talk, and talk…about how their their interpretation is ‘Gods Word’

      May 2, 2012 at 3:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • micha
      micha

      @Common Sense:
      Um.. In case you didn’t notice, this is an LGBT-oriented blog. When a ‘religious leader’ publicly advocates inflicting physical harm on people -children, in fact- for being effeminate/butch/different, it does involve or affect readers and commenters of this blog.

      Oh and I may not be a Christian anymore but I’ve read the Bible. And Jesus said a lot more about compassion and tolerance than persecution and condemnation. Or were you referring to the Old Testament where it was a sin to eat pork and shellfish? Maybe the next time you read your Bible you try understanding it instead of being an ignorant sheeple.

      And I don’t buy the whole “it was a joke” excuse. I’m sick of people with (religious, political, or whatever) power saying irresponsible shit then getting away with it. The man has to be held responsible for his words, one way or another.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dewin
      dewin

      @Andy: I’m for that!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dewin
      dewin

      @micha:
      You make the most sense and your tolerant response is to your credit!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris
      Chris

      @Common Sense: No, your translation renders it as “effeminate.” The actual meaning in context is unknown. It may or may not mean effeminate as we would understand it today.

      If it was a joke then the next question is why the pastor thought that he could get away with making an offensive joke. Many, many people here have been harmed by parents who tried to get them to conform to pointless gender stereotypes. I don’t see how you can say it doesn’t effect people when it effects people all the time.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chakracon
      Chakracon

      This is so sad… and just days ago people were complaining about Dan Savage’s anti-bullying speech at a high school. The most he did was say the word “bull____” in regards to some Biblical philosophies and hypocrisies, and call some kids “pansy-ass” when they walked out of his speech – for which he apologized later. He didn’t call anyone to physical violence. The Christian students were “hurt” that they had been bullied. I honor their feelings. Does this “enlightened” man not understand the words have power to “create” or to “destroy”? I just watched a film on Charles Manson last night… words and sex, that’s what he used.

      Now, would the “Christian” community please begin to police your own who are SO quick to trounce on the feelings of others, and even condone violence? This is what Jesus would do, really?! Well, in His behalf I would like to say – He certainly would NOT! Know your Jesus, and stop the insult. LOVE! There is NO joy in this…

      May 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul F
      Paul F

      @micha: Oh, he WILL be held responsible for his words and the harm they cause. The sad part is it will be too late for the victims of his words to do any good, as he has to die first and the damage will have been done by then. (Ya know, free will and all that) It’s up to the members of “his” church to put a stop to it NOW before it goes any further, as in give him the boot, for preaching the gospel of the enemy. Isn’t it special that these so called christians love the parts of the Bible that BRACKET the gospels (Mat. Mark Luke & John) and pointedly ignore the one section that suposedly is the basis of their faith. I could have sworn that the point of being a Christian was to follow Christ and “ignore” all other comers be they before or after. (That includes the asshat that appropriated my name so he wouldn’t be remembered for what he did to the first Christians, yeah I’m talking about you, Saul of Tarsus.)

      May 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brad Grady
      Brad Grady

      The Pastors.. views.. ARE.. ANCIENT, ARCHAEIC,.. NARROW MINDED. He is part of THE BIG BOYS CLUB.. WHERE BEING.. BIG, BRAWNY and MACHO.. are THE IN.. thing to be. What kind of “LOVE” did Jesus.. have for “THE DISCIPLE.. that JESUS LOVED?!?!?” DID HE NOT.. Love his other DISCIPLES?!?

      May 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Idi Amin Dada
      Idi Amin Dada

      Fascinating that Pastor Sean Harris doesn’t seem to know that it is a sin to lie, which it is obvious he’s doing with his “just kidding” remark. Listen to audio. This was (and is) no joke.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Frank
      Frank

      Someone should beat the living crap out of him…and then say “Sorry…I was just kidding”

      May 2, 2012 at 4:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JON
      JON

      And he’s a pastor. How pathetic!

      May 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lemon-lime
      lemon-lime

      @desdemona: some translations translate arsenokoites as “effeminates” and others “homosexual offenders” or even more vague: “abusers of themselves with mankind”. Sadly he isn’t pulling it out of his ass. That would be the translators. Nobody knows exactly what arsenokoites means, but it probably doesn’t mean homosexuals because there were plenty of other words and phrases used during the time which would have have made things much clearer.

      May 2, 2012 at 7:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LaTeesha
      LaTeesha

      @Common Sense: To encourage a parent to harm a child for any reason affects every one – every member of society. Re-read your screen name and try to find some before making yourself look so foolish.

      May 2, 2012 at 7:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Houston Bill
      Houston Bill

      @Common Sense: BS. He meant it. And the people at his church are filled with hatred for Gay people. Even their own kids.

      May 2, 2012 at 7:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LaTeesha
      LaTeesha

      Hey, Pastor. Is this what you wanted…

      From a 2010 news report: According to WPIX-TV, suspect Pedro Jones, 20, of South Hampton has been charged with first-degree manslaughter for hitting Roy A. Jones so hard with his fists that the infant went into cardiac arrest and died at a local hospital. Police say Jones said he was “trying to make him act like a boy instead of a little girl.”
      Source: http://www.advocate.com/news/daily-news/2010/08/04/man-kills-baby-boy-acting-girl

      May 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LaTeesha
      LaTeesha

      Or maybe this parent makes you happy, Pastor?

      January, 2005, three year old Ronnie Antonio Paris died of injuries after being beaten by his father, Ronnie Paris, Jr. Ronnie’s father, Ronnie Paris, Jr., was convicted of second degree murder. News reports give us the impression Ronnie Antonio Paris’ father was trying to make Ronnie Antonio tough and to teach him to fight, because he did not want Ronnie Antonio to grow up to be gay.

      May 2, 2012 at 9:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • InscrutableTed
      InscrutableTed

      He advocates punching 4 year olds?

      I will now feel no guilt about punching him when I see him.

      May 2, 2012 at 9:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mary Boyle
      mary Boyle

      Hatred like this is from a gay man hiding. Read the NYTimes article. He hates himself for being gay, too bad, he should just be himself.

      May 2, 2012 at 10:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Danny
      Danny

      For some insane reason, some religious leaders think religion gives them a right to violate other people’s human rights – including other people’s right to freedom of/from religion. They are just insane humans using religion as an excuse for their own sociopathic behavior. If religion didn’t exist they still be cruel and evil, just as others who protect human rights would be kind and good. Religion provides no defense for violating human rights – never has, never will.

      May 3, 2012 at 1:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sam
      sam

      What are the qualifications to be a ,,,, PREACHER,,,,,,?
      ANYONE,,,,,,,,, ANYONE CAN BE A PREACHER.
      It is a scam ,,, same as Joseph Madoff,,, just a big,,, confidance SCAM.
      So many,,, millinos/billions of people,,, believe and follow these PREACHERS,,,, it is amazing.
      Ask Joseph Madoff to show me the money/proof,,, ? He would not be able to do it.
      Ask a PREACHER to show me the proof,,,, ? He will not be able to do it.
      Some day the millions/billinos of people will figure this out,, as they did with Joseph Madoff.
      Sam.

      May 3, 2012 at 1:30 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scooty
      Scooty

      The kingdom of God is not in word (Bible), but power…it’s not food and drink…but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit….St Paul.

      The kingdom of God is within you…..Jesus.

      The great prayer says, “thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven”.

      As time goes on we’ll learn more about these things concerning “the kingdom” and then we’ll learn not to be so enthusiastic about anything or everything that’s written down in scripture from old times.

      Jesus said, “the Holy Spirit will guide us into all things”. Thankfully, that is what’s going on in the world today. And many are not happy about it. They are fearful to go beyond what is written, yet that is one of the callings of modernity or the “guidance of the Spirit”.

      May 3, 2012 at 5:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daez
      Daez

      @WillBFair: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

      This is only really quoted this way in the KJV. However, most Baptists swear by the KJV as the only translation of the Bible “inspired by God.” The KJV was actually more inspired by a self-hating homosexual homophobe than by God, but they would never admit that.

      You are right that it comes from Paul. The hatred of women also comes from Paul. What can you expect from a former tax collector who turned prophet?

      May 3, 2012 at 7:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daez
      Daez

      @Danny: Actually, you are wrong, because if this type of hatred and stupidity came from any other source it would be a scandal worthy of the national news. Can you imagine if the principal of a school said something like this? They would be out of the job, and it would be all over the cable channels. This will be glossed over because along with being the principal of a Christian school (which assumes like most church ran schools, the pastor serves as the principal) he is also a pastor.

      Religion often provides an excuse to be a hateful bigot. Without religion, more people would call hateful bigots on who they are.

      May 3, 2012 at 7:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeff
      Jeff

      Somebody needs to beat the shit out of him!!!

      May 3, 2012 at 10:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • steve
      steve

      Just called the church to let them know how I feel… they are now denying that the pastor has ever said the words that are in the audio and video tapes… Geez… isn’t lying a sin? This is how brainwashed they are! SAD

      May 3, 2012 at 12:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Danny
      Danny

      It is obvious that many politicians and religious leaders in the USA are genocidal towards LGBTA Americans and their children.

      May 3, 2012 at 12:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scott in NYC
      Scott in NYC

      This guy is almost comical. We’re all made in God’s image…how dare he stand in judgment of HIM and tell him that millions of his creations are unGodly.

      May 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 1 · Tom wrote, ‘Oh great the “just kidding” defense?’ … He can even try to back it up with the recording – there was laughter in the background. I’m not sure what the laughter represented, but hopefully it meant that his audience wasn’t taking what he said seriously, or at least not literally. Maybe they have more sense than he does. If so, we can be thankful for small favors.

      May 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bryan
      Bryan

      I’d gladly punch his face and do jail time. Asshole.

      May 3, 2012 at 3:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Allen
      Allen

      There is no way on Goddess’s great earth that this man is NOT a raging homosexual. I’m so sick of this queer-on-queer bashing.

      May 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scooty
      Scooty

      @sam: It does seem like a scam doesn’t it? And it’s true that anyone can become a preacher. I’m not convinced that is because they’re led by the spirit either.
      But consider this. The Bible, with all its faults, is all we have. There ain’t nothin’ else of any value. Christianity with all its faults is also all we have that’s any good. It allows us, by virtue of its influence on every modern culture, to be and do what we feel is best for ourselves.
      Christianity is the “best thing in town” for all LGBT folks the “world over” and we must not ignore that. We are all the greater people because of it.
      Praise God for all of his blessings he has bestowed upon us lgbt people and those blessing are NOT gonna go away either.

      May 4, 2012 at 1:12 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sam
      sam

      @Scooty:
      My friend,

      We all like to have a crutch to lean on, a helpful hand.
      In religions the crutch is called “faith.”
      I call faith “hoke poke.”
      The same with “luck,”
      I believe we make our own “luck” success/failure.
      By being prepared, such as: doing well/poorly in school, etc. ,, things in life.
      I wish the masses of religious people, especially the leaders/preachers/”THE POPE” would apply more common sense to their interruptions of bible “stories” and remember ALL stories are just “stories” and not always accurate.

      Including, scientific formulas have been found to be in error and require correction as we learn and grow.

      Bible, “Go forth and multiply.”

      That was probably a good ideal at the time, 1000’s of years ago.

      But, common sense tells us that is not always the best ideal today.

      Example:

      I know a 25 year old girl here with 5 children.

      She is LIVING WELL on public assistance.

      She has no husband and no clue of who or where is the father of the 5 babies.

      The Pope and preachers and the masses of church people praise her.

      The same people condim gays for the gays minor infraction of the Bible = “THE LAW OF THE LAND.”

      Does that make sense?

      Wow! It is amazing, what a bunch of sheepish people without common sense.

      They are suckers for the SCAM artist such as Joseph Madoff = preacher,,,,,,,, .

      Make them show you proof,,, they can NOT…

      They will all tell you must have “FAITH” my son, read the good book and pray,,,

      (and most of all give $ to the church).

      Respectfully, Sam.

      May 4, 2012 at 11:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scooty
      Scooty

      @sam: My friend also,
      Yes, the Bible is “full” of stories. Some of them seem valuable and others don’t.
      But they’re such strange stories.
      They can get some of us worked up about them cause they are so different than most things.
      There IS something unique about its contents. But how do we make it become useful to us?
      Is it worthy to be made useful and applicable?
      I can’t fully understand why I have an interest in this Bible stuff.
      And I can’t fully understand why others don’t.
      I love gin and tonic for a spirit lift once in a while.
      I can’t understand why others prefer whiskey. I hate the smell of that stuff.
      But why? Why do any of us have differing tastes?
      The answer to that is beyond the scope of this post, but I do ponder things like that.
      What’s wrong with a crutch? If we need it, then we should ‘go for it”.
      You say “hoke poke” cause you’re simply not interested enough in it to learn about it.
      It does not have your respect “yet”, but it’s possible that it will one day.
      The reason it has limited admiration is really a major problem within Christianity.
      Some of Christianity’s worse enemies are from within its own ranks.
      Its adherents often express words and deeds too hypocritical and too judgemental.
      That “turns people off”.
      Forget what others say. Create your own understanding.
      St Paul said, “work out “YOUR OWN” salvation” or understanding.
      Make the Bible a guide not a God.
      Here’s some ideas, comments or suggestions from the Bible itself so often overlooked.
      It’s a plea for folks to “Be Curious” as the PBS ad says —
      The kingdom of God is not in word (the Bible), but power(the Spirit)…it’s not food and drink…but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit…St Paul.
      The kingdom of God is within you….Jesus.
      The great prayer says, “thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven”.
      As time goes on we’ll learn more about these things concerning “the kingdom” and then we’ll learn not to be so enthusiastic about anything or everything that’s written down in scripture from old times.
      Jesus said, “the Holy Spirit will guide us into all things”. Thankfully, that is what’s going on in the world today. And many are not happy about it. They are “too fearful” to go beyond what is written, yet that is one of the callings of modernity or the “guidance of the Spirit”.
      Respectfully also,
      Bill (Scooty is my cat….lol.)
      PS — follow me, if your interested, as I try to generate an interest in Bruce Barton. See — http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jaweed-kaleem/faith-shift-what-religion-stories_b_1412331.html .
      My handle is Billysees and the logo is my cat Scooty. It’s kinda quiet there now but I will be posting more pleas soon to cause an interest in the books Mr. Barton wrote.
      Cheers….

      May 5, 2012 at 2:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Queer Supremacist
      Queer Supremacist

      Somewhere at a gun shop in North Carolina there’s a bullet that’s just itching to be lodged into one of Miss Harris’s major arteries. Anyone here from NC, please see that it gets there.

      And no, I’m not kidding. We’ve tolerated these breeders way too long. It’s time to start getting up in their faces. Time to start speaking loudly, carrying big sticks, and bashing bigots with them. Hard. Until they bleed to death. No jury in the world will convict us, and if they even try it, they’re next.

      May 5, 2012 at 4:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sam
      sam

      @Queer Supremacist:
      Be cool my friend,,,, violance will not help the gay cause.

      May 5, 2012 at 5:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scooty
      Scooty

      @Queer Supremacist: Let’s act like better Christians than they are.
      It’s easier than you think.
      Let’s overcome “their” evil or immature words with “our” good words.
      They are “gainsayers” and we’re not.
      They’ll have their bit o’ fame for a while and get much attention.
      But we only have ourselves to offer.
      That’s good enough.

      May 5, 2012 at 8:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sam
      sam

      @Queer Supremacist:
      Your screen name, SUPREMACIST,,,, ..
      I associate that word to “skin heads” “KKK” and such.
      That screen name and your words sadly display the complete opposite of the gay objective.
      Which is only “EQUALITY.”

      I agree with you in this sense:
      It is shocking that such a thing as “EQUALITY” would be put up for POPULAR VOTE by the citizens in the UNITED STATES.

      I suggest for you and all gays be prepared for loosing in the North Carolina election on Tuesday.
      We must be calm, because the US Constution will not allow this to previal.
      But,,, WHEN!!!!! will it be resolved? ,,,,
      As we all know the goverment wheels turn slowly.

      Being an old guy,
      I have seen BIG IMPROVEMENTS with regards to “EQUALITY.”
      Blacks, women, etc.,,, it is a slow process.
      The recent one GAYS must give Clinton and Oboma credit for gays serving in the military.
      I believe Oboma’s heart is in the right place.
      I believe Oboma will do all he can for “EQUALITY.”

      Before we go to vote,,,
      Help to register at least two or more of our allies to vote.
      And, we must VOTE SMART,,, find out who is against “EQUALITY”,,, VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE.
      Sam.

      May 5, 2012 at 10:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sam
      sam

      wOw!!!!!!!!
      THIS IS A MUST READ: “Thank a Homosexual for Your Bible”
      http://www.libchrist.com/other/homosexual/kingjames.html
      I am by far not an athority on the Bible, so you be the judge …
      This will scar the hell out of the Bible thumpers in North Carolina and a few other places, lol.
      Sam.

      May 6, 2012 at 12:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scooty
      Scooty

      @sam:
      Hi Friend,
      About equality and the popular vote.
      You say,”We must be calm, because the US Constution will not allow this to previal.”
      But I would say,”as time goes on, the Holy Spirit will do what is right and best for us.”
      That’s an example of this thing called “righteousness” or simply doing good things.
      Or doing what is right and best.
      But…this process seems so long and drawn out. Wonder why?
      It’s like we’ve heard before, 3 steps forward and 1 step backward.
      Many years ago, SCOTUS voted that gay sex was legal. I heard it on the car radio.
      I was so “flipped out” by that simple decision I had to pull off to the side of the road.
      I knew then “once again” that, “If God be for us, who or what can be against us.”
      My observation here may not easily be understood, but to me it is real and important.
      LGBT things are bigger and greater than North Carolina.
      I’m an “old guy” too…..Lol……lol…..
      And I’ve also seen the things you’ve seen over the years.
      And it does take time doesn’t, this thing called “equality”.
      It’s like “a nation’s greatness” is so big and important, we dare not go “too fast”.
      We could go too fast and miss something. God forbid.
      All of what you’ve said is this — “thy kingdom come thy will be done” at work.
      A mighty work “in progress” it is.
      Obama is “the best” and I love him.
      I love all “good liberals”.
      Good for you to suggest registering our allies.
      Cheers,
      Billw

      May 6, 2012 at 4:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scooty
      Scooty

      @sam:
      Hi Sam,
      I’ve seen and known this for some time now.
      It made its rounds years ago.
      It is interesting.
      But will it really matter?
      Who knows.
      ——————————————–
      We all need more of “the best of things”.
      You know…there’s good…better…and best.
      Liberals need to know more than they do.
      Fundamentalists need to be less angry and quarrelsome with what they do know.
      The Book says,better to live in the wilderness than with an angry and a quarrelsome woman.
      Fundamentalists are like this woman.
      And they listen too much to angry and quarrelsome preachers. They make them what they are.
      The Book also says, “don’t give your money to a rich man or you won’t have anything”.
      St Paul writes, “follow after the things that make for peace”.
      A great example of this is — “don’t provoke one another”.
      And “be peaceable and considerate”.
      Fundamentalists need to treat all LGBT folks with these great attitudes.
      Bullies (or more accurately TORMENTERS) and young suicides will ceast to exist.
      We can’t wait for that to happen.
      It has to happen now.
      Bill

      May 6, 2012 at 11:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Uzor
      Uzor

      May the blessing of The Almighty God be upon you, Pastor Sean Harris.

      My name is Uzor from Nigeria, Africa. While watching the news on cable tv, I listened as tapes of your sermon to your congregation about how to correct their kids if they notice them leaning to the gay side of life was replayed. You were praised by friends of mine who watch along side me and we prayed that the Love of Christ and the Blessing of the Most High continue to strengthen you all the days of your life.

      We need more of you as we take on the battle between good and evil. Christianity warned about the end times and we are obviously approaching these times. My reason being that, everything seems to be going against the tenets of Christ. We now have world leaders openly supporting sick minded people.

      Why should we tolerate people who are mentally unstable and possessed by demonic forces. Would these gay idiot’s have had the chance to pollute earth with their demonic acts if they were not conceived naturally? It is obviously unnatural and even the gay fools know this. May God forgive and correct all who indulge in such cursed acts.

      It is our duty to help correct these ills of society by counselling or if need be, by enforcing it. The Good Lord will reward us as we help the sick.

      May God be with you all.

      May 11, 2012 at 5:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Youssuf
      Youssuf

      What a douche , this pastor should know by now that lying is a sin and also where the nearest library is so that he can look up the phrase: ‘return of the repressed’. Again what a douche.

      May 12, 2012 at 7:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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