ZOMG who else is excited to read today’s forthcoming revised guidelines from the Pentagon about what to do about homogays in uniform? With DoJ’s emergency stay granted, I predict those recruitment offices — like this one in Hawaii — are about to become a little less friendly. Either way, re-enlistment hopeful Lt. Dan Choi is soooo over this. And the president: “You have lost my trust, and I am not going to vote for Barack Obama.”
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Kieran
Who can honestly blame gay soldiers like Dan Choi? With “friends” like Barack Obama who needs enemies.
Dionte
Gay people need to stop fighting for the majority of people in this country, they don’t deserve it!
customartist
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Cam
Of COURSE Valerie Jarret thinks we should sit down and shut up, she also thinks that being gay is a lifestyle choice.
I can tell you this right now, if somebody EVER said something to Valerie Jarret that she wasn’t going to get something she wanted because she was a woman or because she was black, the woman would EXPLODE.
She wouldn’t tolorate the same rules she is asking us to tolerate.
Good for Choi, keep the pressure on.
mikeandrewsdantescove
I know someone that was discharged for being HIV positive.
David
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You Must Demand Stuff
I don’t think getEUAL has pissed people off enough. A few more protests, please. The more we get everyone angry at us, the closer we get to our goal – isolation.
Cam
@You Must Demand Stuff: said…
I don’t think getEUAL has pissed people off enough. A few more protests, please. The more we get everyone angry at us, the closer we get to our goal – isolation.
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In what way is Choi pissing off people who will now hurt us? Explain how the Administration is going to retaliate now? Are they going to ask their DOJ to appeal the DADT ruling? Oh wait, they already did that. Are they going to insert hurles against DADT being repealed in Congress just before the bill was voted on? Oh wait, they already did that. Are they going to appeal the ruling stricking down DOMA, and use language comparing gays to incestuous couples? Oh wait, they already did that. Is the White House Rep going to refer to being gay as a “Choice”? Oh wait, they already did that.
Yeah, you’re right, lets not ask for our rights, it might upset people and then they might do things about it.
Cam
Wow, they are flagging everything, No swear words, no attacks, just a spelling out of where I didn’t agree that Choi was hurting our cause and the comment was flagged.
reason
@mikeandrewsdantescove: What is wrong with that? Military service can get really bloody, letting someone with HIV serve would put themselves and other soldiers at risk. You can be disqualified from signing up for having certain types of past broken bones, or any other debilitating illness.
Gary B.
@Dionte: “Gay people need to stop fighting for the majority of people in this country, they don’t deserve it!”
While I’m in support of any issue that helps advance gay rights, this always seemed like an odd one to me. I mean, yes of course gays need to be able to join the military if they want to, but honestly, why would they want to?
glennmcgahee
@Gary B.: Because Gay people would love to serve their country just like any other person .
edgyguy1426
Great interview! @You Must Demand Stuff: Who are they pissing off? Our ‘friends’? You’re speaking as if the Dems and Republicans are two separate parties here, instead of two parties walking in lockstep but with the pretense of idealogical differences.
acem
I hope you clowns boo-hooing about Obama not waving his magic wand to fix everything your way on your command wind up getting another Republican president like Bush. See how well he treats you, and what he does for DADT/DOMA.
the crustybastard
@You Must Demand Stuff:
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Cam
@Gary B.: said..
While I’m in support of any issue that helps advance gay rights, this always seemed like an odd one to me. I mean, yes of course gays need to be able to join the military if they want to, but honestly, why would they want to?
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Because, it is a federal law that allows discrimination against us. It has been used as an example by companies and other organizations that want to discriminate against us. I don’t want to go into the military, but getting the last two on the book federal laws that say we are second class citizens off the books is the most important thing we can do now.
I’m not saying it will stop things like bullying, but how much easier is it to pick on a group of people when your own govt. tells you that they are worth less than you?
Phil Boyd
Obama is a fucking liar. He is a hypocritical homophobe. Not one thing about him is better than Bush…….
Gitmo….Afghan war…transparency…..
He should be impeached. I am ready to let the tea party take over …………While it may be worse…..it will at least be entertaining.
Why in the hell do Black people hate us so much? Why are they so strung up on their religion that it supercedes the very rights they fought for themselves.
IMPEACH PRESIDENT PUSSY.
Jayson
Good for you Dan! Let Republicans take control; the sooner they do, DADT will be repealed.
Stephen
@Gary B.
Who would want to? Me. I was ready to join the Air Force when I was 19, but couldn’t resign myself to living a lie, even though I wasn’t “obviously” gay. I would join NOW, except that my health will not allow me at my advanced age. (Damned blood pressure)
Gay or straight, we want to serve our country. I would have been the fourth generation of career servicemen in my family. The military offers benefits and education it is difficult to obtain anywhere else.
In the end, it’s their loss. I would have made a fine communications officer.
We aren’t all delicate, you know. Some of us like to fight and can shoot a gun… Hmmm…
Tim
Oh for goodness sake.
To make this stick it has to be a law (search youtube for school house rock “I’m Just A Bill” if you need a refresher).
Obama could say don’t observe DADT but it would be temporary and as soon as he is out of office it could be overturned.
Doing things the CORRECT WAY is more often that not the BEST WAY!
SF Dragon
Please support Dan Choi’s efforts by donating to GetEQUAL. They are winning this fight and deserve our financial support so they can hire more fierce activists.
For the first time in many years it looks like we are finally going to have equal rights. GetEQUAL has lead that charge and deserves our thanks and our money. PLEASE GIVE TODAY: http://www.getequal.com
Tim
@Jayson:
…and what?
Replaced with something more discriminatory?
Why didn’t Teapublicans reverse it when they decided ot begin these illegal occupations in the first place?
Devon
BUT, BUT, 2012! REPUBLICANS! PRESIDENT PALIN! OTHER ASSORTED BITS OF FEARMONGERY! Blah blah blah, so on and so forth…
I don’t care what scare tactics the Obamabots drum up. Unless Obama stops fiercely advocating against us and actually starts fighting hard for gay rights, I’m with Choi. I won’t vote Republican, but I sure as hell won’t make the same mistake I made in ’08.
Black Pegasus
Dan Choi, go ahead and vote for the Republicans and see how far you’ll get in your cause! I am so sick and tired of you extremist queens with your demands and woeful ignorance of how this system of LAWS and POLITICS works! In fact, I am done trying to understand you angry queens. Just go to hell and join the Tea Party for all I care! Lets see how our rights will be advanced once the republicans take charge of congress.
Bryan
So if I don’t vote for Obama, I’ll have to go with either Palin, Gingrich or Romney?
Hell to the no thank you.
Devon
@Black Pegasus:
The Republicans would do just as much to advance gay rights as Obama and the Democrats have…
kevinVancouver
just because the guy says he isnt voting for Obama doesnt necessarily mean a vote for republicans… an independant could do the trick but would simply split the vote UGGH!
Mark
I will not vote Republican. But thanks to Obama and the Democrats obvious cowardice and homophobia, I’ll not be voting Dem either.
Obama is a liar. He made a pre-election promise to repeal DADT, and now he chooses to fight its repeal, even though he does not have to.
Telling people ‘Oh you have to vote for us because we’re not as shit as them’ is not a way to inspire confidence and loyalty to the Dems.
Obama has been a pathetic failure on LGBT rights. Once the Dems realise that their cowardly submission to the Republicans will have negative consequences for them, perhaps they’ll grow a backbone.
tpagy
@Black Pegasuswaaaaaaaaaaaa whine much:
WillBFair
@Black Pegasus: Thanks Black Pegasus. You said it better than anyone.
If this crowd doesn’t understand the two party system by now, they never will. They’re so incredibly selfish, gay rights are the only issues they care about. And they’re so incredibly selfish, they don’t care what’ll happen if the republicans take over both houses.
It makes my skin crawl.
tpagy
One of the Sad things about this roller coaster another young gay kid Killed himself yesterday because he did’nt understand why he was treated differently after he came out. The answer to that when the Goverment in this country says your not equal or good enough to Serve in the Military or get Married then it allows hatred to flourish! I’ve been in this fight for 33 yrs and am getting really tired Its just Time it really is.
Yellow Bone
@acem: “See how well he treats you, and what he does for DADT/DOMA.”
Barack Obama is defending both. So how would it be any different from what a Republican would do?
Yo Choi
Dan, honey – Obama is up for a vote until 2012. If you really want to make a difference, I would suggest a dramatic hunger strike or something with handcuffs. Those are effective.
I’m tired of the attention queens who think they are so important. It is painful to watch. It used to be funny, but now it is very painful.
Dan Choi should get a job. Wait, GE is paying him $70,000, right. Oh well, the lesson is cry and get paid – I guess.
Yo Choi
Dan, honey – Obama isn’t up for a vote until 2012. If you really want to make a difference, I would suggest a dramatic hunger strike or something with handcuffs. Those are effective.
I’m tired of the attention queens who think they are so important. It is painful to watch. It used to be funny, but now it is very painful.
Dan Choi should get a job. Wait, GE is paying him $70,000, right. Oh well, the lesson is cry and get paid – I guess.
SoylentDiva
I didn’t vote for Obama in 2008 and I won’t vote for him in 2012. I never fell for that “fierce advocate” bullshit. Barack Obama don’t care about LGBT people.
Mixner Knows
GetEqual and Dan Choi are the answer. Study history. We won’t win without demanding our Rights. Obama has been destroyed by our anger. The Republicans are next. Many politicians will quit and gay can run for office. See, incredible strategy.
Soon, the only politicians will be radical queers. That’s why you need to make a donation tonight – www get equal .com Give something real, not $5 or $10 but something that means you are serious. We don’t need half-ass closted pussies, we need real support. Give NOW. We can with this with your $$$$$. Do it now.
I have seen a lot in my life. This is the Year. GetEQUAL has the balls to piss off enough people to make a real difference. Plus, Kip is hot. He;s thin and hung. Wow. Sorry. I want to give, too. Can you blame me? Just give. I did.
Jayson
Should we be angry absolutely! But we should not be stupid, in the senate who voted to repeal DADT, all but 2 democrats, and ALL the republicans. Not voting for a democrat this election is just stupid.
As for Obama I will not vote for him during the primaries in 2012, I will donate my time and money to someone who supports full equality, but I am smart enough to know that voting republican is not just bad for us as a community but it is bad for us as a country.
Jayson
Should we be angry absolutely! But we should not be stupid, in the senate who voted to repeal DADT, all but 2 democrats voted to repeal it, and ALL the republicans voted to keep it. Not voting for a democrat this election is just stupid.
As for Obama I will not vote for him during the primaries in 2012, I will donate my time and money to someone who supports full equality, but I am smart enough to know that voting republican is not just bad for us as a community but it is bad for us as a country.
Mixner Knows
Buffet Dan Choi? Come on, you need to put on some weight (like me) so a hunger strike can last for months.
DONATE to GetEqual if you are serious about winning. We are the answer. You already owe us for our efforts. Pay up. We risk our lives for you, do your part and conribute.
damon459
This reminds me of the episode of Family Guy where Brian ends up liking Rush Limbaugh, Lois Points out how he changed sides just so he could be mad at someone and let me tell ya people bitched when GW was in office and doing NOTHING to help us and now your pissed Obama isn’t doing ENOUGH. Well guess what it’s not all about the LGBT community in case anyone didn’t know there is a whole country full of issues needed to be tackled Rome wasn’t built in a day and our cause can’t be fixed with a simple stroke of a pen. It takes time to address all the things that need to be addressed and I haven’t seen the GOP doing anything right now let alone anything to help our causes. So vote for them if you like but be prepared to reap what you sow!
Devon
@damon459:
The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Gays have been voting practically in lockstep for the Democrats for years and we have nothing substantial to show for it. We’re still second class citizens and in the past two years, with a Democrat in the white house and democratic super-majorities in both houses, the Democrats have done nothing to change that. Instead we’ve been pushed aside, tossed under the bus, and told to shut up, wait for our turn, and blindly support the president.
Voting is the only real way we can put pressure on these people. What reason do the Democrats have to push hard for gay rights when they know that no matter how little they do for us we’ll just hold our noses and vote for them anyway?
soul_erosion
February 1, 2013
Dear President Romney & Vice President Huckabee,
Will Majority Leader Boehner be bringing up ENDA anytime soon?
Your executive order to reinstate DADT seems ill timed what with Secretary of State Palin confirming that Iran has a WMD. Everyone here in Salt Lake appreciates you mentioning your strong stance against gay marriage in your State of the Union address and are looking forward to your first appointment to the United States Supreme Court. Your naming Senator Demint as Secretary of Education was brilliant. It’s so encouraging to have our country back in the RIGHT hands. My only criticism so far is that I think you should have put up a sign that you had electrified the White House fence before that poor Dan Choi was so horribly shocked.
Casey
I think the most positive outcome is for the Democrats to lose a lot of seats in the midterms and to inform them that this was in large part thanks to their betrayal of their LGBT constituency and the barefaced lies told by Obama prior to his election.
Until this point the Dems have known that they can ignore LGBT issues as we will vote for them automatically.
This strategy has failed for us.
Despite having a Dem President and Democratic control over both Houses, our legal rights have not improved over the past 2 years.
The Democrats need a sharp short shock to the system.
The LGBT community may a minority, but we need to let these politician idiots know that opposing our equality will have consequences for them.