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Plan For LGBT School In Toronto Meets With Opposition From Gay Community

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By:           victor hoff
On:           Sep 28, 2012
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    • Thomathy
      Thomathy

      I won’t answer the loaded question the author asks at the end of the article, but I will say that this is a terrible idea, the idea of a segregated school for LGBTQ students.

      It’s a bad idea first and foremost because it won’t stop bullying. It may stop bullying directed at a particular trait or characteristic, but it won’t stop the bullying of these kids altogether. This ignores the problem of closeted students who get bullied because of their perceived sexuality, gender expression or sex or straight students in the same position. It doesn’t help students who, for whatever reason can’t come out at home, but who are out at school. It also sends exactly the wrong message to the bullies and to society at large. That message is that the people who are different from you, whom you are bigoted toward are others who can just be kept separate from you. Simply, this does nothing to address the attitudes that result in the bullying of people because of their sexuality, gender expression or sex and it does nothing to keep safe those who are, arguably, the most vulnerable members of the LGBTQ community.

      Ontario just passed a particularly good piece of anti-bullying legislation that includes provisions with thinking toward LGBTQ students. Clearly, if there is a problem, and there certainly is, then what needs to be done is to step up anti-bullying education and the normalisation of the LGBTQ community through extant programmes such as history and social studies.

      It doesn’t help to segregate anyone and it doesn’t address larger societal issues like bullying and the acceptance of LGBTQ people to create a place, however well intended, that merely keeps some students safe from some kinds of bullying.

      Sep 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tidalpool
      tidalpool

      As a man who went thru the better part of my schoolhood days being poked fun at, harrassed, bullied and physically attacked for my orientation, I can appreciate the need to avoid all that if possible. For heavens sakes, I was called a ‘fag’ before I even knew what it was. I never even met a gay person untill I had been out of HS for 3 years. I never even dreamed about a man or had a fantasy untill I was 18, due to the extreme fear I had in aknowledging I was gay. The damage done to my spirit and soul was incalcuable, and even though I can see where gay kids being segregated in their own school could make them targets, if any of them could avoid the ordeal I went thru, and many just like me in othe schools, in other towns, I vote for the protection of a school, perhaps with gay teachers as well. To be able to go to school and breath is a wonderful thought, to be able to ask dumb questions about your own sexuality w/o getting bashed! I can only imagine. Its not the best solution, its not the right solution, but in a world of str8 kids with the attitudes I was confronted with, its still a huge plus!

      Sep 28, 2012 at 5:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GregJamesNewman
      GregJamesNewman

      I have to agree with Irene Miller in the article. We are looking at the wrong end of the spectrum here! I think we need to remove the bullies from the school. Where I went to high school, troubled students were in a different school. We need to create COMPLETE ZERO TOLERENCE schools! NO bullying will be tolerated. Harsh as it may be, these students wont be seperated for life. Life will knock them down after they get out of high school unfortunately

      Sep 28, 2012 at 5:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • balehead
      balehead

      It’s just as sad as the black nly school they created…segregation is wrong…plus most bullys were all gay’s…

      Sep 28, 2012 at 5:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jsmith
      jsmith

      So the answer to bullying is to put all the afflicted into one location? This just spells genius maneuver. Gays come n all shapes and sizes. If they weren’t bullied before you’be gone ahead and placed a target on their back. Bullying is wrong, so why make it easy for them?

      Sep 29, 2012 at 3:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Little-Kiwi
      Little-Kiwi

      the general consensus in the city is pretty much this: that this is even being talked about shows there’s a need that is not being met.

      two things need to happen:

      1. LGBT Inclusivity workshops, dialogues, education need to start happening. At an elementary school level.

      2. Until that education produces the culture of understanding we’re all working toward there should absolutely be a safe-haven educational facility for students who are slipping through the cracks, who do not feel safe, so they can complete their education, and become empowered.

      we need to curb anti-gay prejudice and that starts with education, at a young age, before children learn to hate and discriminate. because HATRED is learned.

      and until that kicks in money should be pumped into the alternative programs to aid the at-risk kids.

      Oh, and one little correction: the Millers – that’s my mum and i. we are related ;)

      Sep 29, 2012 at 3:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ait10101
      ait10101

      Segregate the bullies. Schools for bullies only.

      Sep 30, 2012 at 8:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bascha
      Bascha

      We need to fix the bullies. My 10 year old nephew sometimes acts like gay things are “weird” when they are brought up on TV or in public somewhere, almost like he is plain ol’ freaked out by them. I know it’s not his parents giving him reason to think this way, and it probably isn’t what he watches on TV and in movies since all of that stuff tries to be inclusive and politically correct all the time. Most likely, it is him talking to other kids his age and hearing hateful and mocking things from them, which they most likely hear from their parents. You’re never going to change all of the adults in the world with their anti-gay mindsets, but if we educate the kids at an earlier age hate like this will be weeded out over time.

      Oct 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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