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Pleas, Demands

Senator Hillary Clinton wrote a letter to rival Barack Obama today pleading with him to count Michigan and Florida. Because, you know, she needs a bit of a boost to win this thing. An unfriendly excerpt: “Your commitment to the voters of these states must be clearly stated and your support for a fair and quick resolution must be clearly demonstrated.” Really, Hillary? [HuffPo]

By:           Andrew Belonksy
On:           May 8, 2008
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  • 35 Comments
    • Max
      Max

      She is hilarious!!! I can’t wait for Amy Poehler to have fun with this on SNL. Even if you hate her, you gotta love her!

      May 8, 2008 at 5:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael Duquette
      Michael Duquette

      oh geez…I love her and I voted for her in March and will not vote for Obama in November, but writing a letter to Obama? Thats either highly ballsy or desperate. I am not sure which. I do believe they should be counted though. We’ll see how this all plays out.

      May 8, 2008 at 5:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Darth Paul
      Darth Paul

      Yessum, Miss Hillary!
      What a b!tch. She shouldn’t tread into who “must” do what…

      May 8, 2008 at 5:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • afrolito
      afrolito

      That’s right Hillary….

      Bloody the messiah before his november crucifixion.

      May 8, 2008 at 5:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • William
      William

      I don’t understand how you could divide up votes in Michigan at all without a re-vote. To just assume the “uncommitted” votes would go to Obama is not at all fair to Edwards, Richardson, or the voters who voted uncommitted.

      It makes much sense to me to give every delegate from Michigan to Hillary. This of course would be totally unfair, but to just assume Obama would get those votes is not what democracy is all about. And I’m an Obama supporter.

      As a resident of a state that played by the rules, I think its completely unfair for Florida and Michigan to break the rules and then be able to DECIDE the election.

      If the votes were counted AT LEAST the superdelegates should be stripped of their votes. After all these people are the ones that made these reckless decisions.

      It may be a moot point in the end, as it looks like even with the votes counted as is, Hillary might end up behind.

      May 8, 2008 at 5:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rae
      rae

      if she truly feels so strongly about the fairness of the democratic process in these states, she would voice her opinion to have the votes counted prior to those primaries. and can you even count michigan since the other nominees weren’t even on the ballot?

      May 8, 2008 at 6:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Pissed Off in Kentucky
      Pissed Off in Kentucky

      If the nomination process was about democracy and fairness, then all the primaries would be held on the same day so that everybody’s vote would carry the same weight. As it is, we haven’t even been given a chance to have our voice heard in Kentucky and the whole things been decided! WTF!?!?!

      May 8, 2008 at 6:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bob
      Bob

      Love how people on here call Hillary a bitch. Betcha a million dollars they’d freak out if someone called Obama the N word. Racism is bad, but sexism is just fine. Bunch of freakin’ hypocrites.

      May 8, 2008 at 6:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Z
      Z

      This got ridiculous! It is like reality show!
      It will never end!!! I’m not following this none-sense anymore!!!!

      http://www.ilovezeren.com

      May 8, 2008 at 6:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Just remember Florida and Michigan who’s fighting for your voices to be heard.

      I completely agree with Pissed Off in Kentucky.
      I think that had all the primaries been held on a same day Hillary would be the nominee.

      May 8, 2008 at 7:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CPT_Doom
      CPT_Doom

      Funny, Senator Clinton and her campaign staff had no problem with ignoring the votes in Florida and Michigan, just as the 2004 early primary in DC was ignored, back in January when she thought she had the nomination in a lock. Now, suddenly, her opinion has changed. How wonderful for her.

      May 8, 2008 at 7:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sergei
      sergei

      hey zeren dude, it’s all good for you to promote your blog, but just put it in your signature, no need to spam otherwise pretty readable threads. thanks.

      May 8, 2008 at 7:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gc
      gc

      If they have a national primary day, then no one will ever campaign in Kentucky. In that scenario, Florida, Ohio, Penn, and California will get all the attention.

      Maybe some kind of rotating… like have them happen in bigger groups and rotate which group goes first or something.

      But no, Mich and Florida should not count. They knew the rules and opted to have worthless primaries. If voters don’t like it, they should replace their state officials.

      May 8, 2008 at 8:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom
      Tom

      She reminds me of that doll from the horror movie “Chuckie.” She just won’t die. She will be kicking and screaming all the way to election day in November. God! I hope he does not pick her as his running mate. I can’t imagine he’d want to see her annoying, puffy face after this campaign.

      May 8, 2008 at 8:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Marco Channing
      Marco Channing

      I used to like Mrs. Clinton.

      Then I was neutral.

      Recently I started to dislike her.

      Now I dislike her immensely.

      If she keeps up what she’s doing, I may end up disliking her as much as I dislike George W.

      May 8, 2008 at 8:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Carlos
      Carlos

      Bob, this is a gay site where if anything WE should know that “Bitch” is gender neutral. So for gays calling Hillary (or anyone for that matter) a bitch has a different meaning and, in my view, nothing to do with sexism.

      Besides, even if used in a derogatory manner, you would not compare the “B” word with the “N” word because “B” would be considered gender specific and “N” is race specific. Removing race from the equation, generally a guy is simply referred to as an asshole. The fact that the “N” word was your first reaction is very telling about you, hun.

      May 8, 2008 at 8:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Richard
      Richard

      Damn y’all! What the hell is going on with all this bitterness? For the record, if anyone expects to be president of the United States YOU HAVE TO RUN A SUCESSFULL CAMPAIGN (JUST THE RULES)! If you go from front runner to I NEED A NUCLEAR OPTION AND A PRAYER FOR THE NOMINATION you are not qualified to be president (just the rules). I, for one, have suffered at the hands of conservatives for too long to throw my vote to them in November, unlike the rest of you crackheads. I will be voting democratic in November regardless of whether it is Obama or Clinton. Have you all not heard of rules. Michigan and Florida didn’t follow them. And Hillary and Barack agreed to them. If you don’t agree, you deserve all the punishment and pain the conservatives will definite dish out to you…….I don’t! Crack is a terrible drug and you bitches need to break the habit!

      May 8, 2008 at 8:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • afrolito
      afrolito

      “Besides, even if used in a derogatory manner, you would not compare the “B” word with the “N” word because “B” would be considered gender specific and “N” is race specific.”

      That’s total bullshit, in addition to making no sense. Gay men can, and often are just as sexist/racist as anyone else. Calling Hillary a bitch is the least of the covert sexism directed at her in this campaign, and it’s fucking ugly.

      May 8, 2008 at 8:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      What would really solve all this is taxpayer funded elections. Remove all the money from private sources…..

      And Marco – Hillary as bad as W? What have you been smoking?

      May 8, 2008 at 8:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • iceblink
      iceblink

      Obama cannot compare to the brilliance of Hillary. She will be our next POTUS. You guys honestly think this nation is going to elect a black man who sat in a racist church and is related to Islamic extremists in Africa? I don’t think so.

      May 8, 2008 at 9:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • steve
      steve

      uh, bob – bitch & n***** are NOT equal

      not even close

      don’t even

      May 8, 2008 at 9:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • wow
      wow

      I love that so many people are refusing to vote for a democrat if their candidate is not on the ballot. So instead, you’d prefer a 72 year old man who wants the Iraq to go on indefinitely and is linked to 2 crazy pastors himself, Hagee and Rod Parsely. The logic is akin to a 6 year old.

      Put your egos aside people and vote for a change be it Hilary or Barack unless you want another 4 years of this bullshit.

      May 8, 2008 at 9:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Marcus
      Marcus

      Hillary has certainly angered me during the course of this primary season (mostly because I know that she’s better than she’s allowing ‘campaign Hillary’ to be) but I would think it the ultimate betrayal to her and the causes and issues dear to her (Women’s rights, accountable gov’t, a rational approach to national security planning, ending senseless war in Iraq, a national commitment to the environment, gas tax relief….ok, well, maybe not that last one) to vote for Sen. McCain in the fall – who will hinder or damage any progress on all these fronts just because of anger at Obama for beating her (and if you really think that she was attacked unfairly, or more than he was, perhaps a breath of fresh air and a little perspective is needed…she gave as good as she got.)

      Oy – that was way too long for one sentence. Time for bed here in NYC.

      May 8, 2008 at 10:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Puddy Katz
      Puddy Katz

      She has lost her mind. This is embarrassing to her and to Democrats everywhere.
      Do you really want someone who would do this in the White House?

      May 8, 2008 at 10:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr C
      Mr C

      By the way even with Florida and Michigan counted she is still behind. So if that be the case. Go ahead and count them. I don’t have a problem with it.

      And keep in mind you might get your wish. But in Nov we still lose! Trust on that, there will be no healing to this Bullshit.

      Afrolito,Question for you: Is your World you are surrounded in is all white folks, Because I have seen criticisms on here. But yours when it comes to Obama seem very “snow queenish” of you. I hate to use that term. But that is how you are coming across.

      With your criticisms like (Bloody the messiah before his november crucifixion)
      The white folks on here that doesn’t like him need to be quiet and allow you to speak for them you’re dong a great job.

      I might be wrong and if I am apologies. But my goodness. Do feel any Black person can lead, or are you the submissive kind?

      May 9, 2008 at 1:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hushpuppies
      hushpuppies

      I know this is a tense back-and-forth primary, but I’m not going to throw away my ideals because the candidate I prefer doesn’t win. What a terrible attitude to have!

      The candidates I prefer haven’t won for a long time now, but that doesn’t mean that I’m not going to be involved. You might as well hand your opposition the election on a silver platter!

      My advice to the people caught up in this stupid Clinton / Obama rivalry? Get over yourselves. And once this contest is decided? GET INVOLVED.

      May 9, 2008 at 2:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Johnny C
      Johnny C

      why do americans put themselves through all of this, no wonder not everyone votes. here in oz we let the caucus decide the leader then we HAVE to vote( you get fined for not voting) for the best party

      May 9, 2008 at 5:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John
      John

      “here in oz we let the caucus decide the leader then we HAVE to vote( you get fined for not voting) for the best party”

      That doesn’t sound like a system I want.

      May 9, 2008 at 7:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jesse
      jesse

      FIne. Hillary Clinton’s an asshole. She’s a dick. She’s a cocky power hungry tool. Is that sexist? haha. I don’t really see the difference between this and calling her a bitch. She is an abrasive polarizing personality. Whatever name you want to call it, it’s all the same.

      I would love to see a woman become president of this country. Generally I find them to be better leaders in many situtions. Hillary Clinton however will never be president of the United States…not now, not in 2012.

      May 9, 2008 at 9:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • afrolito
      afrolito

      mr c (stupid)

      “Afrolito,Question for you: Is your World you are surrounded in is all white folks, Because I have seen criticisms on here. But yours when it comes to Obama seem very “snow queenish” of you. I hate to use that term. But that is how you are coming across.

      With your criticisms like (Bloody the messiah before his november crucifixion)
      The white folks on here that doesn’t like him need to be quiet and allow you to speak for them you’re dong a great job.

      I might be wrong and if I am apologies. But my goodness. Do feel any Black person can lead, or are you the submissive kind?”

      WTF is “snow queenish”? How is refering to him as a messiah about to be crucified, speaking for white people? That makes no fucking sense. My world is full of all kinds of people, but maybe yours is all black. So sorry for you. Nowhere in this thread have I stated that black people can’t lead, but I guess in that pea brain of yours, my dismissal of Barack must mean I feel no blacks should/could lead.

      Barack is simply the wrong person to lead period, and you’re clearly an idiot.

      May 9, 2008 at 12:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom
      Tom

      Afrolito, for you to call anyone “stupid” or an “idiot” truly is the pot calling the kettle black. Your number one response to every post is “That makes no fucking sense.”

      It makes no sense because you don’t get it!

      Stop with the name calling and try to engage people in mature conversations…if that is possible for you.

      May 9, 2008 at 12:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cody
      Cody

      Don’t be stupid people…of course Florida and Michigan should count…they consist of American voters…

      May 9, 2008 at 12:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • shivadog
      shivadog

      I can’t believe all these people that would vote for Mcain if thier candidate doesn’t get the nomination. Are you people crazy or just really fucking stupid? Look what hangs in the balance here, the supreme court, the Iraq war, the economy, the environment. Are you really willing to screw the future of our country because you didn’t get your way? I personally don’t care much for either candidate, but come november I will hold my nose and vote for whoever gets the nomination.I sort of fear that the whole thing is a farce, and we are only voting on a puppet/figurehead for the powerbrokers who really run things, but just in case we really do have a democracy,I will vote for whoever is running against Mcain because I think 4 more years of right wing lunacy will probably screw this country up beyond repair. Get your head out of your ass people!

      May 9, 2008 at 3:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr C
      Mr C

      Thanks Tom. As he is a Non-Descriptive individual.

      But Afrolito all I did was ask you a question since you seem so vicious with your attacks on Obama. However as for calling me stupid and idiot not much home training I see and we don’t even know each other. I’m not bothered and don’t care and Obama will be fine and if not the world is watching and will judge our country accordingly.

      GO BARACK at all cost and he shall prevail!

      May 10, 2008 at 7:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • todd
      todd

      Hill-Billy didn’t care about counting the votes in FL in 2000 and OH in 2004 – why should anyone care if her votes count today?

      May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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