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Please, Bishop Gene Robinson, Won’t You Read Us a Bedtime Story?

So what if this clip was recorded way back on Sept. 7 at the Momentum Conference in San Francisco. We could listen to Bishop V. Gene Robinson all day long, especially when it comes to being AMERICA’S BIG GAY BISHOP. Okay, the part about the death threats and wearing a bullet proof vest aren’t so awesome.

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On:           Sep 24, 2009
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  • 12 Comments
    • Brian
      Brian

      It makes very little difference to the LGBTQ Community that Vicki Gene got a promotion and raise from the Episcopalians. They still believe that “homosexuals are wrong, sinful and deviant.” Welcoming and/or affirming LGBTQ doesn’t help – they need to end the negative branding of homosexuals.

      The gay Bishop has refused to sign the Declaration:

      Homosexuals are Not Wrong, Sinful or Deviant.”

      That would make a real difference. Ask him to sign it.

      Sep 24, 2009 at 2:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WillBFair
      WillBFair

      I can’t believe that many in the glbt community still can’t tell the difference between liberal christainity and fundamentalism. And they justify their ignorance by cherry picking some trivial point about the church as if the entire universe depends on it. Declaration indeed. The Episcopal church is going through scism right now largely because of their stand for lgbt rights. They’ve made Robinson a bishop and will probably make more. But there’s always something else they should be doing that the self ritgheous crowd can complain about.

      Sep 24, 2009 at 9:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brian
      Brian

      @WillBFair: The “courageous” Episcopalians still believe that homosexuality is wrong, sinful or deviant. THAT belief is why we are not “equal.” It isn’t trivial – it is the ONLY thing the LGBTQ Community needs from those “liberal” Christians. Stop making homosexuality “wrong.” We really don’t care about Vicki Gene’s career.

      We’ll never be equal, as long as we’re wrong.

      Sep 24, 2009 at 9:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dsdrane
      dsdrane

      @WillBFair:

      Be forewarned, Brian has a “thing” for Bishop Robinson. Whereas, he seems to be actively engaged with the whole ELCA evolution, he seems stuck in the mud when it comes to the Episcopalians.

      This begs the question: why? It also begs the comment: whatever.

      Sep 25, 2009 at 12:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David
      David

      “The gay Bishop has refused to sign the Declaration:

      Homosexuals are Not Wrong, Sinful or Deviant.””

      Still waiting for evidence of even one explicitly, predominantly atheist organization that is working to achieve civil equality for GLBTQ people.

      In the mean time, how about an atheist org that has signed Brian’s Declaration?

      (sound cue: crickets chirping)

      Sep 25, 2009 at 12:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charles Merrill
      Charles Merrill

      @Brian: I hope the Bishop marches with us in D.C. wearing his pointed hat and high heels making a well earned mockery out of all religious authority. But he won’t. Like Senator Kennedy on his death bed asking the Pope to pray for his forgiveness. Religion makes nuts out of good minds.

      Sep 25, 2009 at 8:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brian
      Brian

      Rick Warren (Baptist) willing to take those dues-paying Episcopalians upset about the gay stuff.

      (AP) The 2.1-million-member denomination has argued vociferously about homosexuality since 2003, when the group approved the election of its first openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson of New Hampshire. Many more conservative Episcopalians and a handful of congregations have begun breaking away from the church in the years since.

      Southern Baptist mega-church pastor Rick Warren, author of The Purpose Driven Life, took sides in his sister denomination’s debate recently by showing up in Texas to encourage about 800 Episcopalians attending the first annual meeting of a conservative breakaway group calling itself the Anglican Church in North America.

      Warren, who spoke out last fall against legal gay marriage in California, said in January that any nearby Anglican congregation that loses its property after breaking with the U.S. Episcopal Church was welcome to meet on the campus of his Saddleback Church.

      Sep 25, 2009 at 1:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WillBFair
      WillBFair

      Thanks dsdrane. And you’re right. It’s a waste of time trying to reason with the anti religious crowd. What’s funny, though, is that they claim to be so ubber rational but rely heavily on rhetorical tricks: cherry picking the historical record, name calling, misplaced emphasis (when they make mountains out of mole hills), irrellevance, mental masturbation, etc…
      I think they just have a victim complex. And they’re hysterical about trashing our freinds because the complex won’t let them admit we have any.

      Sep 25, 2009 at 9:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brian
      Brian

      @dsdrane:
      @WillBFair:

      Equality for LGBTQ dsdrane and willbfair, Equality. We will never be equal, as long as we’re wrong. +70% of Americans believe we are “morally wrong.” They got that from religion – no where else. That fact doesn’t make someone anti-religion. We need to end that Christian belief – it’s untrue, it’s unfair and it’s the cause of ALL LGBTQ pain and suffering.

      But, if you “protectors of religion” actually have a plan to obtain equality for LGBTQ – please share. Simply commenting to “save religion” does nothing for our community. It probably doesn’t help religion, either.

      Sep 25, 2009 at 9:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PopSnap
      PopSnap

      @Brian:

      You are really being ungreatful towards those liberal christians who actively support our rights, befriend us, believe that we are loved by Christ, welcome and invite us into their ranks. Have you ever actually met any of these people? The Religious Left is every bit as influential as the Religious Right. How else have the Democrats won, on ticket that since the mid-80s has been a liberal Christian ticket that supported GLBT people, seperation of church & state, was pro-choice, and pro-sexuality? Why do 51% of Americans approve of the Democrats if 70% are Right-Wingnuts as you claim?

      Why don’t YOU create this declaration, then, instead of whining? You’re literally the only one who seems to care. The rest of us take any help we can get- 20 million of us cannot take on 200-some million alone.

      Sep 27, 2009 at 11:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David
      David

      Two days ago I posted

      “Still waiting for evidence of even one explicitly, predominantly atheist organization that is working to achieve civil equality for GLBTQ people.

      In the mean time, how about an atheist org that has signed Brian’s Declaration?

      (sound cue: crickets chirping)”

      The crickets are getting tired, and there’s still no sign of even one explicitly, predominantly atheist organization that is working to achieve civil equality for GLBTQ people.

      It looks like certain people here are telling lies about progressive Christians and progressive Christian denominations like MCC, because there is no evidence that their own peeps, atheists, have contributed anything substantive to civil equality for GLBTQ people.

      Sep 27, 2009 at 11:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tinkerbell
      tinkerbell

      @David: David, I’m a-theist…meaning literally “I don’t have a god or a religion, or subscribe” to that belief. As to that, unlike most theists, I don’t belong to a theistic (or atheistic) religious organization that feels compelled to get into the gay rights cause (unlike the majority of Christiano-Republican/Christian theistic organizations).

      I’m not even aware that there are “atheistic organizations.” What do they do…meet every Tues night and plan how not to worship a god they don’t believe in? There ARE organizations that think that we should not be a society dominated by a particular (or any) religion. Is that what you are referring to?

      Islam is a religion. Would you want that particular belief in a deity dominating your secular laws? I, for one, want all religion out of my life.

      Your religion has crucified gay folk for centuries and we have finally taken them to task, stood up and said “enough is enough.” Are all Christians to blame for the hatred? Perhaps not, but it is time for those who truly believe we are equal human beings to stand up and say that we are deserving of equal human rights…especially marriage rights.

      Sep 28, 2009 at 2:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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