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Pope Benedict XVI Had the Power To Stop Priest Molestations. He Ignored It, It’s Just That Simple

Ya know how You People keep saying President Obama has the power to end terrible things like the dismissal of openly gay soldiers with the stroke of a pen? Well his counterpart over in Vatican City, Popemaster Benny & The Jets XVeye, once had the power to end terrible things like priests abusing children. Of course this was back when he was just Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.

In what the Vatican will surely dub a hit job, the New York Times goes balls deep into Pope Benedict’s responsibility in cracking down on children being molested:

The office led by Cardinal Ratzinger, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, had actually been given authority over sexual abuse cases nearly 80 years earlier, in 1922, documents show and canon lawyers confirm. But for the two decades he was in charge of that office, the future pope never asserted that authority, failing to act even as the cases undermined the church’s credibility in the United States, Australia, Ireland and elsewhere.

Bishop Geoffrey Robinson, an outspoken auxiliary bishop emeritus from Sydney, Australia, who attended the secret meeting in 2000, said that despite numerous warnings, top Vatican officials, including Benedict, took far longer to wake up to the abuse problems than many local bishops did. [...] But the future pope, it is now clear, was also part of a culture of nonresponsibility, denial, legalistic foot-dragging and outright obstruction. More than any top Vatican official other than John Paul, it was Cardinal Ratzinger who might have taken decisive action in the 1990s to prevent the scandal from metastasizing in country after country, growing to such proportions that it now threatens to consume his own papacy.

But hey, I’m sure he wanted to do something about CHILDREN BEING MOLESTED. But like Obama struggling with the debate over unit cohesion and retention and recruitment, then-Cardinal Ratzinger didn’t want to risk upsetting the Catholic Church’s well-oiled machine, or risk losing even more priests or setting up problems for indoctrinating new ones. The mission must come first!

[NYT]

By:           Ryan Tedder
On:           Jul 2, 2010
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  • 44 Comments
    • PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
      PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

      Since day one when he first appeared on the balcony after being chosen I got the creeps about Benedick aka the boy nazi. He sends off such an evil vibe……..

      Jul 2, 2010 at 10:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dvlaries
      dvlaries

      Last night I watched the Oscar-nominated, 2006 documentary “Deliver Us From Evil.” It’ll boil your blood. We should hope that the next pope elected is as unaccountable and doctriaire as this one; three in a row like that ought to be enough wise up enough more people to cripple this criminal organization once and for all.

      Jul 2, 2010 at 11:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • christopher di spirito
      christopher di spirito

      Pope RatNAZI should be prosecuted in the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity. But alas, Catholics will rally around him and this cretin will hide behind the “head of state” provision that basically protects him into perpetuity.

      Jul 2, 2010 at 11:39 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      With respect to the statement, “Well his counterpart over in Vatican City, Popemaster Benny & The Jets XVeye, once had the power to end terrible things like priests abusing children.”

      … not exactly true – Ratzinger did not have the (unqualified) “power to end terrible things like priests abusing children” as he could only do something after an incident of abuse was reported. What he could have done is to reduce the extent of the problem by ordering that all evidence of criminal conduct be turned over to civil authorities and keeping these priests (the ones whose abuse was reported) away from children. The Bible says, “give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” and in this case “Caesar” (i.e., the state) had a right to the evidence.

      His only defense is that it takes a long time for the Vatican to get things done – like the 400 years or so it took for them to reopen Galileo’s case. Try running that one by the IRS as an explanation for not filing your taxes and see what happens!

      As an institution, the Roman Catholic Church put its self interests, avoiding embarrassment, above the welfare of children to the extent of covering up criminal behavior. And Ratzinger helped enable that. In a sense, he’s roughly a modern-day equivalent of Amfortas in Wagner’s opera Parsifal, suffering from “a wound that will not heal”.

      Jul 2, 2010 at 2:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • smurfhousing
      smurfhousing

      The key purposeful error in the NYTimes new attack on Pope Benedict:

      http://wdtprs.com/blog/2010/07/the-key-purposeful-error-in-the-nytimes-new-attack-on-pope-benedict/

      Jul 2, 2010 at 3:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      ‘B’ is dissembling again, trying to take the edge off the criminality of Der Papenfuehrer and his predecessors.

      Even when Ratzinger knew about child rapists under his discipline he refused to act. According to Southern California Public radio “Pope Benedict XVI has apologized to abuse victims in Ireland, but has yet to speak out about the growing church abuse scandal in his native Germany.

      He has been silent about the case of a priest who was treated for molesting boys in Munich in the 1980s, when the current pope was archbishop of Munich.

      The doctor who treated the abusive priest says his warnings went unheeded.” http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/03/28/pope-remains-silent-on-abuse-case-in-germany/

      The papacy is a theocratic monarchy and the popes could have ended this ongoing scandal any time in the last two millennia, but they didn’t.

      We should emulate the Belgians where cops raided catholic headquarters because the police said the catholic cult has been withholding information.

      • Arrest the pope and his American accomplices as accessories to rape and for aiding rapists. Arresting a few hundred priest is just eh tip of the iceberg. We need to go after the papacy and the bishops.

      • Sue the US roman cult for all its assets to pay for HIV/AIDS meds to compensate for their deliberate attempts to spread HIV/AIDS in Africa and to compensate young victims of rape everywhere.

      • Demand the extradition of cardinal Bernard Law and other criminals currently hiding in the vatican to face RICO charges for aiding and abetting rapists

      Here’s a BBC account of the vast spread of abuse around the world; http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8576268.stm

      [img]http://bp1.blogger.com/_kp2FrgCoRfs/ReEaUh4wSnI/AAAAAAAAAU8/7cnR5z5lL1Q/s400/pedophile.gif[/img]

      Jul 2, 2010 at 8:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David
      David

      He was never a Nazi, he joined the Hitler youth which was the common thing for all children in Germany, it had very little to do with anti sematism and focused on sports something the majority of children like to do.

      Jul 2, 2010 at 10:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      The HitlerJugend was a Nazi organization and people went from it to the NSDAP, SS, etc.

      it had very little to do with anti sematism (sic)

      [img]http://www.gothicstamps.com/inventory/thumbnails/41090t.jpg[/img]

      Stop lying. “The Hitler Youth, known in German as Hitler-Jugend (HJ), was founded in 1926, … Its origins come from the Jungsturm Adolf Hitler (Adolf Hitler Boy’s Storm… As the war progressed, the group took on the work of men drafted into the armed forces, manned anti-aircraft defenses and also produced many soldiers… for the Waffen SS, notably the 12th SS Panzer division under Kurt Meyer. …”http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitleryouth.html

      Sports! Sports? Since when is shooting down Allied aircraft a sport?

      Ratzinger joined the HitlerJungend. He was assigned to a Luftwaffe AA battery. He finally left the Nazi military in April 1945, along with millions of other Ratzingers deserting the sinking ship. It was just a few days before the Nazi’s unconditional surrender.

      Ratzinger’s father was in fact a sworn, serving officer of both the Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei) and the German national Regular Police (Ordnungspolizei). He stayed in the force after Kristallnacht and after the Ordnungspolizei were absorbed by the Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei).

      There is no record of any of the Ratzinger family escape the dragnets for the camps. Ratzingers father must have witnessed much illegality by the Nazi’s as a Gestapo officer, but he didn’t lift a finger to help people on his own street who committed suicide or were killed. (A few hundred yards away from the Ratzingers’ house, a family hid Hans Braxenthaler, a local resistance fighter who shot himself rather than be captured again.) The SS regularly searched local homes for resistance members, so the Ratzingers couldn’t havebeen unaware of what was going on.

      The Ratzingers, father and son, may not have been camp guards but they were loyal participants in the sickness of Nazi society. Like many other Germans and Austrians they did nothing died in camps.

      Like father, like son.

      [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7Bqr1I5gzyk/SjW-S4_47CI/AAAAAAAADqQ/QdMkq-MI9b4/s400/a+nazi+pope+ratzinger.jpg[/img]

      Jul 2, 2010 at 10:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jas
      Jas

      Particularly funny since seventy percent of the abuse was perpetrated by predatory homosexual men who targeted teenaged boys. Epic fail.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 12:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ash
      Ash

      @dvlaries: I watched Deliver Us From Evil a few months ago. It disgusted me. I can’t believe how apathetic they all were. It’s not like abuse scars children forever or anything…

      All friggen pieces of human trash. They are the ones going to Hell, should it exist.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 12:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ash
      Ash

      @Jas: Umm, there’s a HUGE difference between homosexual adults who date other adults and pedophiles that rape children.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 12:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Jas: No monsignoir, most of them were breeders like you. Most of them pray, excuse me, prey on boys and girls indiscriminately.

      “6 percent are pedophiles, 32 percent ephebophiles, 15 percent 11 & 12 year olds only (both male and female), 20 percent indiscriminate, and 27 percent mildly indiscriminate”. From The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests and Deacons in the United States, a 2004 report by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, based on surveys of Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States. Wiki

      If you Google “priests molesting girls” there are 371,000 results.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 1:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lucius vorenus
      Lucius vorenus

      If the devil really existed, he would have a permanent place at the head of most religions existing on earth today.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 4:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lucius vorenus
      Lucius vorenus

      Can’t you see that he is like the twin brother of the Emperor in Star Wars? The resemblance is uncanny. The first commenter is absolutely right.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 4:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jeffree
      jeffree

      Remember the movie “The Devil Wears Prada” ?! It could’ve been about Pope Benedetto XVI.

      The RC church in the US is facing a financial collapse. Parishioners are switching to other denominations. Large donations aren’t getting thrown into the passed plate like they used to.

      The Belgians had the right idea: go after the evidence — sieze records, computers & see at long last who has been covering up what, for & from whom, for how long.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 8:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alexander J A
      Alexander J A

      I was in a catholic wedding this weekend, and being in that church and seeing this man’s picture plastered all over the walls gave me the willies. Worst yet, there was a book right next to the pamphlets titled “The Vatican and Pedophilia”. I assume that it was the church’s stance on the whole thing, and what they want people to THINK they are doing to prevent it, but it was literally the size of an airport novel. Bizarre. (Oh, and the church’s mission had the motto: “Following HIS Desire.”) Do Catholics not have proof-readers?

      Jul 3, 2010 at 6:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ray RAY DUBUQUE
      Ray RAY DUBUQUE

      @smurfhousing:
      Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is for you Catholics to accuse the New York Times of being “biased” ( AGAINST the Catholic Church), as though all of you Catholics who don’t like what the Times has published are NOT BIASED ( in FAVOR of the Catholic Church) ?
      The issue isn’t bias, but integrity. And it’s laughable for Catholics with the record they have established on this issue to question the integrity of the NYT.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 10:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ray RAY DUBUQUE
      Ray RAY DUBUQUE

      @Jas: , As a former R.C. priest (who has never even been accused of any sexual wrongdoing) and a seminary professor in the 1960′s the reason there has been much less abuse of females is that everybody KNEW that girls weren’t safe near priests, but they had the mistaken idea that it was wholesome for BOYS to be associated with male priests, as great “role models”. So it was much, much easier for pedophiles in the priesthood to exploit boys rather than girls, just as it is for males in prisons to have contact with other males – which doesn’t make them homosexual.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 11:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rev Ray Dubuque
      Rev Ray Dubuque

      Just noticed the error in my name in preivous two posts.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 11:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ewe
      ewe

      He should be hauled by way of subpoena into court to testify in front of the world and then escorted to prison in handcuffs for the rest of his life.

      Jul 6, 2010 at 5:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 6 cyberstalker Bill Perdue lied again by saying, “‘B’ is dissembling again, trying to take the edge off the criminality of Der Papenfuehrer and his predecessors.”

      Bill Perdue posts such rubbish because he has a grudge and will lie through his teeth to further it. The fact – I merely pointed out that Ratzinger did not have the “unqualified” power to “end terrible things like priests abusing children” for the same reason that a “tough on crime” judge cannot eliminate crime – there is a steady influx of new priests as old ones retire, die off, are kicked out, or in some cases are carted off to prison. Some fraction (hopefully small but in practice nonzero) will be child abusers and nobody, Ratzinger included, can do anything about it until there is some evidence or accusation.

      Bill Perdue’s statement assumes that Ratzinger must have supernatural abilities – the ability to read his priests’ minds – because that’s the only way to catch a pedophile priest before he acts out in some way. By contrast, I’m assuming Ratzinger’s only human and should be criticized only for not doing what a decent human being would have done (report the child abusers to the police) and not for failing to do something that is physically impossible (telling that someone is going to be a child abuser before that person does or says something that would indicate that there is a problem).

      Jul 7, 2010 at 1:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 8 · Bill Perdue included a picture of a Nazi poster. All it said was “Hitler Youth – Germany’s future”. I’m not sure what he thought it proves.

      Then he says, “Sports! Sports? Since when is shooting down Allied aircraft a sport?” Reality: at the time the Nazis were going down in flames and getting their asses kicked. They were fighting on two fronts, and were short of men and supplies. So, they had younger teenagers man anti-aircraft guns. It was for a simple reason – they had no other option other than surrender and surrendering wasn’t in the self-interest of the guys at the top as they all must have known that they would be tried for war crimes if caught.

      Ratzinger was probably told to join by his parents and went along without thinking about it, if only to stay out of trouble – after all, at the time he was just a kid. All you can conclude is that he wasn’t getting any divine guidance or assistance.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 2:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @ewe: If they did it to the Nazis at Nuremburg certainly they can do it to someone who is an accomplice, accessory and abettor to child rapes.

      ‘B’ you pompous windbag, will you ever stop defending right wing scum like scum like Rekers, McCain, Ashburn and making excuses for religious rapists. You tell us it takes time to deal with their massive rapist problem but that’s not an excuse, it’s just dissembling.

      Der Papenfuehrer was drafted into the Luftwaffe to kill Allied fliers in 1943 well before it was clear the Nazis would be defeated by the USSR and two year before the Nazi regime began to unravel. There are no indications that he refused to fire on Allied planes or that his Gestapo father ever disobeyed an order and I think we’re all – except ‘B’ pretty clear on the Gestapo’s methods and goals. The Nazi state demanded and got total obedience and the penalty during wartime for disobedience in the military and the Gestapo was death.

      You attempt to paint Der Papenfuehrer as a victim of Nazism instead of a loyal accomplice isn’t going anywhere. Give it a rest.
      Virtually every time ‘B’ posts people call him on his dishonest attempts to minimize the criminality of the cults or the harm done by homohating scum like Rekers, McCain and Ashburn. Do all those dozens of people have a grudge? Or are they, like me, sick and tired your whining and playing the victim all the time.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 5:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rev Ray Dubuque
      Rev Ray Dubuque

      @B:
      B says: “Ratzinger was probably told to join by his parents and went along without thinking about it, if only to stay out of trouble – after all, at the time he was just a kid. All you can conclude is that he wasn’t getting any divine guidance or assistance.”

      THAT is the real issue, isn’t it!
      That “one, tru, holy Catholic church” which CLAIMS to represent “divine guidance” was AOL throughout this tragic period.
      “” When Dr. Eduardo Senatro, the correspondent of L’Osservatore Romano in Berlin, asked Pius XII whether he would not protest the extermination of the Jews, the Pope is reported to have answered, “Dear friend, do not forget that millions of Catholics serve in the German armies. Shall I bring them into conflicts of conscience?” The Pope knew that the German Catholics were not prepared to suffer martyrdom for their Church; still less were they willing to incur the wrath of their Nazi rulers for the sake of the Jews whom their own bishops for years had castigated as a harmful influence in German life. In the final analysis, then, as Poliakov has also concluded, “the Vatican’s silence only reflected the deep feeling of the Catholic masses of Europe” – those of Germany and eastern Europe in particular. – The failure of the Pope was a measure of the Church’s failure to convert her gospel of brotherly love and human dignity into living reality.”
      [The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany"by Guenter Lewy, p. 304]

      The real problem with elevating Ratzinger to the papacy isn’t that he was a former “Nazu Youth” member, but that in lieu of “divine guidance” during his youth, he was educated in schools and even seminaries that met the approval of Nazi Germany’s overlords.
      See much more at my http://jesuswouldbefurious.org/RCscandal.html web site about the shameful role of the Roman Catholic church in the Jewish holocaust.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 9:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Queer Supremacist
      Queer Supremacist

      The Christian “god” is the Devil in disguise. He asks you to accept evil beliefs and ideas and call them good.

      Pope NaziKraut must die and Christianity must be obliterated by any means necessary, including military force. Remember, the Nazi Holocaust was a horrible thing because it was an attack on INNOCENT PEOPLE based on made-up evidence. Hitler used lies to justify killing the Jews and gays. However, there is tons of confirmed historical evidence with which to condemn Christianity to a well-deserved extinction. But unlike Hitler, do not believe Christian apostates should be executed. Just the opposite: they should be celebrated and encouraged to speak out against the evils of the beliefs that were forced upon them.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 10:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 23 · Bill Perdue continues his idiotic lies about Rekers, and several others (completely irrelevant to the topic under discussion) and then goes on to accuse me of “making excuses for religious rapists.” Perdue is lying through his teeth – I merely said that a single person cannot possibly stamp it out completely (some [hopefully small but unfortunately nonzero] fraction of newly minted priests are going to be ones who abuse children, and you can’t tell who they are until some indication of the problem shows up). Ratzinger deserves criticism not because he was not 100% effective (no one can be) but because once he learned of it, he didn’t report the crimes to the police and send out an order to keep these priests away from children until the police could haul them off to jail.

      Then Bill Perdue goes on to show us his ignorance of history as he pontificates about World War II. I’ll refer him to http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/war-in-europe/western-europe/western-europe-index-1943.htm which has a time line for 1943 of the war in western Europe. The first entry for January of 1943 states, “Romanian dictator Ion Antonescu meets with Hitler and expresses concern about the unfolding disaster at Stalingrad.” Near the end of the month, “The whole of the German workforce is mobilised for ‘total war’. All men aged 16-65 and women aged 17- 50 to be registered.” And one day before the end of the month, “With the German Sixth Army in its death throes at Stalingrad, Hitler does the seemingly unthinkable and allows the 10th anniversary of the Nazi seizure of power to pass without speaking to the nation. It is the first unmistakable evidence of Hitler’s retreat from public appearances as the tide of the war turns.” In April of 1943, “Hitler spends the rest of April summoning to Klessheim the leaders Vichy France, Norway, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia and Croatia for a series of pep talks. With the war’s tide clearly turning against the Axis, the Fuhrer has limited success.”

      Meanwhile, the current pope was in fact in his teens. He just acted like his peers. Bill Perdue tries to spin that into, “Der Papenfuehrer as a victim of Nazism instead of a loyal accomplice isn’t going anywhere.” Earth to Perdue: a teenage boy drafted into his country’s military while said country is being bombed is not a “loyal accomplice” and is no more of a “victim” than any other German kid at the time.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 5:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @David: Here we go again.

      ‘B’, Queerty’s resident talking head for Fox News is pissed that people call him on his defense of Rekers, McCain, Ashburn, and just about any homophobe who’s the subject of a news story at Queerty.

      The ‘B’ must stand for Bill, as in O’Reilly. They’re both outrageous rightwingers, they both twist facts and when more honest folks criticize them they fly off the handle and begin to whine. Richard Nixon was the same way “I am not a crook, sniffle, whimper, whine.” According to ‘B’ O’Reilly all of his dozens of critics are idiots. The other Bill O’Reilly blames ‘teh gayz’ and Nixon blamed everyone.

      In just one of his defenses of Rekers all but one of the comnments jumped ‘B’ O’Reilly for defending sucm like Rekers, just as now he’s dissembling about Der Papenfuehrer.

      These are from http://www.queerty.com/george-alan-rekers-was-ready-to-give-jo-vanni-roman-5-stars-on-yelp-20100514/ and you can see that of the six or so commenters all but one are, according ‘B’ O’Reilly idiots with a grudge against poor ‘B’ O’Reilly, permanent victim.

      I didn’t include ‘B’ O’Reilly’s comments because it’s dinner time and I don’t want people to vomit.

      Posted: May 14, 2010 at 6:50 pm • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 2 • WalkderDC

      The point is, Rekers is claiming Jovani advertised as a travel companion. Yet not only has he not produced any other ad, nor the website where he found him. But Jovanni has said that he only advertised on Rentboy. B you have now been on 4 threads defending Rekers. What is your agenda?

      Posted: May 15, 2010 at 10:03 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 3 • romeo
      Yeah, B, I’m for freedom of speech and all, but you really need to stfu. Rekers is indefensible.

      Posted: May 15, 2010 at 11:44 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 4 • schlukitz
      @WalkderDC: “B you have now been on 4 threads defending Rekers. What is your agenda?”

      @romeo: Yeah, B, I’m for freedom of speech and all, but you really need to stfu.

      Gentlemen, B sees himself as a self-appointed moderator whose agenda is to make everyone who posts on these threads, including Queerty.com look dumb, while attempting but failing to make himself look smart, flag posters he disagrees with and trying to get folks like 1EqualityUSA and myself banned from this site.I have no doubt that B is the person responsible for every post that 1EqualityUSA and I make being moderated for the past several months now.

      B apparently believes that he alone is entitled to freedom of speech but that is all other posters on this site that should stfu. For that reason both 1EqualityUSA and I rarely post on Queerty anymore.

      B takes all the fun out of it.

      Posted: May 15, 2010 at 11:49 pm • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 6 • Bill Perdue
      If it’s rightwing, if it defends bigotry and religion, if it denigrates the LGBT communities – then B is for it.

      Posted: May 16, 2010 at 12:45 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 8 • Bill Perdue@B: There are dozens of us who say the same thing and we’re pleased not to have your respect. If you liked us it’d be very damaging to our reputations.

      Posted: May 16, 2010 at 3:05 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 14 • WalkderDCNo B You aren’t Just trying for accuracy. What you are doing is inventing scenarios to pretend that he isn’t lying. First you attack the reporters for not contacting him, then when it was pointed out to you in another post that he was contacted you immediately scramble and say “But maybe he didn’t understand what they were talking about!” So you are desperately trying to find any reason as to why he is somehow the victim here, and I am curious as to why.

      Posted: May 16, 2010 at 10:47 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 17 • Bill Perdue
      @schlukitz: Glad to see you comment got uncensored. ‘B’, pro bono lawyer for racism and any self loathing scum that comes down the pike must not like you much.

      Posted: Jun 15, 2010 at 7:00 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 19 • schlukitz
      @Bill Perdue:

      Truth be known, I never got the impression that ‘B’had any special love for me (or anyone else on these threads, for that matter), from day one. And that’s what I get for having the unmitigated gall to disagree with “B’. Who do I think I am? ;P What I find particularly noteworthy, Bill, is the fact that ‘B’ has never once denied that he might have had anything to do with getting OneEquality1 and my comments moderated on this forum”.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 8:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 27 · Bill Perdue is trying to turn another thread into a useless string of baseless personal attacks (he’s in reality simply miffed that he continually makes a fool of himself with his factually challenged statements and is acting out). You’ll find a whole load of nearly identical “contributions” from this character starting at http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-315566 with about 30 separate comments showing his obsession with me following that. Many are long lists of garbage that he cut and pasted (frequently quoting himself).

      Jul 7, 2010 at 9:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Seven Star Hand
      Seven Star Hand

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      The Vatican is being set up for a much bigger fall than most are expecting. Some amazingly damaging information about pivotal religious assertions is about to become widely available and understood. This child abuse scandal is merely proof of their absolute lack of veracity, before the real controversy is unsealed. Here’s an early peek a draft-preview of my upcoming new book for parties like yourself, who are more likely to make good use of the information.

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      Jul 8, 2010 at 1:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @christopher di spirito: Please see my comment no 27. It’s not worth replying to someone playing the victim. Like Bill Riley and Nixon no one can satisfy ‘B’ill O’Reilley’s neediness to be seen as the injured party.

      Jul 8, 2010 at 4:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 30 · Bill Perdue is still up to his old tricks (he’s trying this ploy on another thread too, playing games with apostrophes – see http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-321683 and nearby comments for an example and explanation of what is going on).

      Jul 8, 2010 at 7:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Please see my comment no 27. It’s not worth replying to someone playing the victim.

      Like Bill Riley and Nixon no one can satisfy ‘B’ill O’Reilley’s pathological need to be victimized.

      Jul 9, 2010 at 3:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 32 · Bill Perdue is continuing his silly games, basically repeating what he said previously.

      Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rev Ray Dubuque
      Rev Ray Dubuque

      “B”, since you have ignored my post above, lets try again.
      You wrote: “Ratzinger was probably told to join by his parents and went along without thinking about it, if only to stay out of trouble – after all, at the time he was just a kid. All you can conclude is that he wasn’t getting any divine guidance or assistance.”
      THAT is the real issue, isn’t it!
      That “one, true, holy Catholic church” which CLAIMS to represent “divine guidance” was AOL throughout this tragic period.
      “” When Dr. Eduardo Senatro, the correspondent of L’Osservatore Romano in Berlin, asked Pius XII whether he would not protest the extermination of the Jews, the Pope is reported to have answered, “Dear friend, do not forget that millions of Catholics serve in the German armies. Shall I bring them into conflicts of conscience?” The Pope knew that the German Catholics were not prepared to suffer martyrdom for their Church; still less were they willing to incur the wrath of their Nazi rulers for the sake of the Jews whom their own bishops for years had castigated as a harmful influence in German life. In the final analysis, then, as Poliakov has also concluded, “the Vatican’s silence only reflected the deep feeling of the Catholic masses of Europe” – those of Germany and eastern Europe in particular. – The failure of the Pope was a measure of the Church’s failure to convert her gospel of brotherly love and human dignity into living reality.”
      [The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany"by Guenter Lewy, p. 304]
      The real problem with elevating Ratzinger to the papacy isn’t that he was a former “Nazi Youth” member, but that in lieu of “divine guidance” during his youth, he was educated in schools and even seminaries that met the approval of Nazi Germany’s overlord, at a time when his “supreme pontiff” thought that the best advice he could give his German subjects was NO ADVICE..
      See much more at my http://jesuswouldbefurious.org/RCscandal.html web site about the shameful role of the Roman Catholic church in the Jewish holocaust.

      Jul 10, 2010 at 12:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 34 · Rev Ray Dubuque wrote, “‘B’, since you have ignored my post above, lets try again.” Hey, you just repeated your previous post. What makes you think I have an obligation to comment on it?

      After all, what I basically said was that Ratzinger, when he was a kid, simply acted like a typical kid and most likely did what his parents told him to do without really thinking about it. That’s independent of how the Catholic Church behaved regarding the Nazis, but does sort of question the idea that the Pope is somehow the earthly representative of a deity.

      Jul 10, 2010 at 3:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rev Ray Dubuque
      Rev Ray Dubuque

      After having been thoroughly impressed with the lofty claims of the Roman Catholic church for the first 33 years of my life, I’m not surpised by the number of people fooled by those claims, but I’m spending the rest of my life trying to expose this institution which is anything BUT the one, true, holy church !
      ‘The pedophilia scandal may be the R.C.’s most RECENT, but it is faqr from its worst.
      Check out my http://JesusWouldBeFurious.Org/ site.

      Jul 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @christopher di spirito: ‘B’, Bill O’Reilly wannabe and defender of the faith, is, as usual lying.

      He tries to excuse Ratzinger by telling us that Ratzingers Nazi and Luftwaffe ties were based on the fact that he was “he was a kid, simply acted like a typical kid and most likely did what his parents told him to do without really thinking about it.”

      He was not a little kid. He was 17, had been a Nazi for three years when he was drafted right out of the seminary, hot beds of Naziism and anti-Semitism. The only part of ‘B’s Faux News BS that might be right is that the future Papenfuehrer took the advice of his father, the Gestapo officer.

      [img]http://www.the-bastard.com/images/articles/813.jpg[/img]

      Jul 13, 2010 at 9:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 37 · Bill Perdue once again made a fool of himself objecting to the observation that Ratzinger was still a kid, claiming he was (gasp) 17. In all but 11 states in the U.S., he was still too young to be tried as an adult except under special circumstances.

      At 17, he’d still be in high school in the U.S. Then Perdue says Ratzinger had been a Nazi for three years – i.e., since the age of 14. LOL – he was no more of a Nazi than any other German kid. It’s not like he was running the show or like Hitler was consulting him for advise. Get real.

      Perdue thinks pointing out the obvious fact is “excusing” Ratzinger. Of what? Doing what nearly every other German kid his age did at that time? He was living in a country that was in the middle of a war and was drafted. All you can conclude is that no alleged Deity was giving him any special guidance or help. It’s not like he could look like Charlton Heston (playing Moses) and say in a booming voice, “Thou shalt not kill,” immediately being surrounded by a glowing yellow light as an army of angels and archangels zap the real Nazis standing around him.

      Jul 15, 2010 at 2:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Ratzinger, Der Paperfuehrer, ‘God’s Rottweiler’, still refuses to order “bishops to report abuse to police and doesn’t include any ”one-strike and you’re out” policy as demanded by some victims’ groups.

      The document also listed the attempted ordination of a woman as a ”grave crime” to be handled by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, just as sex abuse is.” http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/07/15/world/europe/AP-EU-Vatican-Church-Abuse.html?_r=1

      Why does ‘B’ continue to pimp for this proven accomplice of child rapists?

      [img]http://www.thebriefingroom.com/archives/daily%20mirror4_cropped.jpg[/img]

      Jul 15, 2010 at 11:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 39 · Bill Perdue, presumably having no answer to the fact that blaming a 17 year old kid for behaving like all the other 17 year old kids in the country he lived in, is trying to counterattack by writing, “Why does ‘B’ continue to pimp for this proven accomplice of child rapists?” That question shows Bill Perdue’s dishonesty (It’s a “when are you going to stop beating your wife” question).

      See No. 4 for what I actually said about the pope regarding the child-abuse cases:

      “What he [Ratzinger] could have done is to reduce the extent of the problem by ordering that all evidence of criminal conduct be turned over to civil authorities and keeping these priests (the ones whose abuse was reported) away from children. The Bible says, ‘give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s’ and in this case ‘Caesar’ (i.e., the state) had a right to the evidence.

      “His only defense is that it takes a long time for the Vatican to get things done – like the 400 years or so it took for them to reopen Galileo’s case. Try running that one by the IRS as an explanation for not filing your taxes and see what happens!”

      Since Bill Perdue is very dense, I should point out that the 400 years statement is sarcasm – hence the wisecrack about the IRS that followed.

      Jul 15, 2010 at 4:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      ‘B’, pimping for the pope says “Ratzinger did not have the (unqualified) power to end terrible things like priests abusing children’ as he could only do something after an incident of abuse was reported.”

      Ratzinger ignored reports and continues to refuse to cooperate with police and prosecutors.

      Why does ‘B’ try to make excuses? What’s his agenda?

      Jul 15, 2010 at 4:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 41 cyberstalker Bill Perdue lied by saying, “‘B’, pimping for the pope says “Ratzinger did not have the (unqualified) power to end terrible things like priests abusing children’ as he could only do something after an incident of abuse was reported.”

      Bill Perdue is lying because this statement is not at all “pimping for the pope”. Ratzinger could only do something after an incident of abuse was reported for the same reason that the district attorney cannot stop crimes before something is reported. Once a criminal in found, you can throw the guy in jail for the maximum sentence allowed by law to stop future crimes, but it is nearly impossible to stop someone from committing his first crime.

      The assumption is that the pope is not some supernatural being who can tell what people are going to do before they do it.

      Jul 15, 2010 at 6:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      ‘B’, pimping for the pope says “Ratzinger did not have the (unqualified) power to end terrible things like priests abusing children’ as he could only do something after an incident of abuse was reported.”

      Ratzinger ignored reports of abuse as a German archbishop and to this day refuses to cooperate with police and prosecutors.

      Why does ‘B’ try to make excuses? What’s his agenda?

      Jul 15, 2010 at 11:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No. 43, cyberstalker Bill Perdue repeats himself – what he said in No 41 – and totally ignores the response to that in No 42. Bill Perdue does that because he shares a trait with Joseph Goebbels – the tendency to repeat a lie over and over as a propaganda trick. Perdue is as sick as they come.

      As I said, “Ratzinger could only do something after an incident of abuse was reported for the same reason that the district attorney cannot stop crimes before something is reported. Once a criminal in found, you can throw the guy in jail for the maximum sentence allowed by law to stop future crimes, but it is nearly impossible to stop someone from committing his first crime.

      “The assumption is that the pope is not some supernatural being who can tell what people are going to do before they do it.”

      So, it is fine to criticize Ratzinger for inaction after he knew of a case of abuse (which is what I said in No 4), but you can’t blame him for all abuses – with a steady stream of new priests, you don’t know which ones are going to abuse children until they do something. That should be obvious to nearly anyone, but Bill Perdue is too stupid to understand that (or alternatively he is just playing dumb).

      Jul 16, 2010 at 2:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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