– Daniel C. Davis

I’m not sure what I think of this. Silly Bible translations are all well and good, but this is taking it a bit too far, really.

I could not agree with you more. Kissing the ass of people who would just as soon see you dead, makes absolutely no sense at all and is a total waste of time, as you so well pointed out.

What I would like to know is, how come so many gays, who have been the victims of Christian persecution for some 2,000 years, try so hard to be accepted by the very church that vilifies and condemns them?

How fucking long will it take them to get the message that the Church does not like them and this will never change?

Writing a parody bible has to be hella hard work though, particularly if you’re going to do cross-referenced commentary. It may be decades…

They are like turkey’s voting for an early christmas.

That said, Tallskin, we shouldn’t paint “religion” and “the religious” with an overly-broad brush. Episcopalians are a good example — while some are leaving the mainstream denomination because of their illogical bible-based beliefs, many are in favor of pretty much all of our “agenda.”

Questionable as is any religion, it’s the jihadists (of every faith) who are our true enemy.

Vatican opposes de-criminalising same sex unions
New UN declaration puts pressure on states that do not recognise same sex marriages, according to the Vatican
Richard Owen in Rome
The Vatican has said it opposes a European Union proposal for a United Nations declaration formally condemning discrimination against homosexuals, which it claims would “de-criminalise” same sex unions.

Monsignor Celestino Migliore, the Holy See’s permanent observer at the UN, said the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church forbade “unjust discrimination” against homosexuals. However outlawing discrimination by means of a UN declaration meant that states which did not recognise same sex marriages would come under pressure to do so.

All countries of the European Union have signed a draft declaration drawn up by France, which currently holds the rotating EU Presidency, condemning “discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity”. France is due to submit the draft declaration at the UN General Assembly on 10 December, the sixtieth anniversary of the UN declaration of human rights.

Over 80 countries in the world currently outlaw same-sex relations, with punishments range from short prison sentences to life imprisonment and even death by execution. The UN declaration will not be binding, but gay rights movements hope it will lead to a UN resolution. The French minister of human rights and foreign affairs, Rama Yade, said that the EU should also “take the lead in stopping violence against women worldwide.”

The Vatican fiercely opposes same sex unions, and has also taken steps to root out active homosexuals from the clergy in the wake of sexual abuse scandals. In October it went further and issued a statement declaring that even chaste gay men should be barred from the priesthood.

The document, “Guidelines for the Use of Psychology in the Admission and Formation of Candidates for the Priesthood,” released by the Vatican’s Congregation for Catholic Education, reiterated that men with “deep-seated” homosexual tendencies were unworthy of ordination, and urged seminaries to enlist the aid of psychologists in screening candidates for homosexuality and other “psychic disturbances.”

The Catholic Church has been plagued by clergy sexual-abuse scandals since 2002, when allegations of abuse surfaced in Boston and later spread to dioceses. The scandal, in which thousands of victims have alleged they were molested or raped by priests, has cost the church in the US alone more than two billion dollars in legal settlements.

The Catholic Church teaches that while homosexual acts are sinful, homosexual “orientation” is not. However Cardinal Zenon Grocholewski, head of the Congregation for Catholic Education, said homosexuality was a “deviation,” “irregularity” and “wound” that conflicts with the “spiritual paternity” essential to the priesthood.

A 2005 Vatican document said men with “deep-seated” homosexual tendencies should not be ordained. However those with a “transitory problem” could become priests if they could show they had overcome them for a period of at least three years.

The religiously afflicted will always feign offence at mockery yet in their very next breath will heap abuse on us simply for being gay.

Thing is we can crawl on our bellies, pleading for them to like us, respect us, love us, but it will have no effect. They will still hate and abuse us no matter what we do, no matter how polite or “respectful” we are to them.

No, it’s far more effective to abuse and mock them for their insane beliefs in an invisible friend, not simply because of their stand on gay issues but also because they are fucking insane.

The gay issue is but one part of their evil effect on society and respecting them simply makes them think that their beliefs are ok and equal to humanism/atheism/science . Well, from a whole range of issues, from stem cell research ,to abortion to evolution/science etc they have to be contested and contested hard at every possible opportunity.

To recap: Respect given to the religious means they think their absurd ideology is equal to the rational and scientific. It isn’t and they should be told it isn’t.

And what they are saying to us is not insulting?

Get a grip, Gretta!