Those fags are true vermin. Chittyshitty-Y calling someone a “chimp” He ought to look at his Mother.

I misunderstood because I have no tolerance for bigoted vermin like tallskin and CHURCHILL-Y and don’t mind saying so.

Again, I apologize.

Let me start by saying I wasn’t in the mood to join in the bashing so I preferred to not single someone out but if I did you wouldn’t have made my list, most of your subject related comments are relevant and interesting. I was referring to people with clear rightwing mentalities who do things like start a post by calling you “commie perdue” and continue with a list of insults supposedly meant to counter a valid argument though never directly addressing any relevant issues. Where there is a healthy debate I love actively participating like I do on many other sites but here there seems to be a decided leaning towards being mean and vindictive without bringing much of value to the table. As for your racism statement was that directed at me? I’m South African and in an interracial relationship so I harbour no such sentiments.

Professor Kmiec, in the unlikely event you read this site, thank you for your efforts to elect Barack Obama.

YES to real AMERICAN change:

McCain ★ Palin ’08

Angry bear wrote:

“the supporters of deregulation which has led to this economic meltdown wasn’t John McCan’t a big proponent of deregulation?”

Nice try, but Obama who is the Number Two Recipient of Money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the U.S Senate has a couple of buddies named Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson who surely know something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&NR=1

The biggest problem with the delusional thinking of bonehead dimbulbs like mark is that they always put their partisan loyalty before their commitment to the GLBT agenda. That’s as much a betrayal as their hero Obama repeating every ten minutes or so that he and god agree that we’re second class citizens who have no right to get married. But what else would you expect for a Democrat?

People who vote for their enemies are self destructive.

Cynthia will appreciate getting “A” vote

or go hold your breath for a viable presidential candidate to support same sex marriage OPENLY…do that honey.

Buh hahahahahaha….go back wimpering to your GOP and wander 40 years in the G*D DAMN wilderness,
America will call you f*cktards if we ever want the nation flushed down a TOILET…again

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I love, love, love throwing salt in wounds

I suspect that some of the worst racists like tallskin and CHURCHILL-Y aren’t queer at all, they’re just homosexual ‘gentlemen’ desperate for the approval of rancid rightwigners so the trumpet their racist garbage to be ‘one of the guys’. Roy Cohn had the same outlook and so did J. Edgar Hoover.

And some people just aren’t very bright. For instance thats_so_queer is an idiot. All this talk of politics confuses and frightens him because he’s way out of his league. Racists have much lower IQs than humans. If he wants a racist friendly site maybe he ought to check the KKK or David Duke or something along that line. I’m sure he’d be much more comfortable there.

Since there are no good reasons to vote for Obama mark wants to scare the bejezuz out of us: “If Palin doesn’t scare the F*CK out of you whiney a$$wipes, then you aren’t paying ATTENTION.” The idiots in Germany used to say the same thing, except it was phrased as “Only Hindenburg can save us from Hitler”. After winning Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor of Germany. Centrists always move to the right and empower the right.

The biggest problem with the delusional thinking of bonehead dimbulbs like mark is that they always put their partisan loyalty before their commitment to the GLBT agenda. That’s as much a betrayal as their hero Obama repeating every ten minutes or so that he and god agree that we’re second class citizens who have no right to get married. But what else would you expect for a Democrat?

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/428.html

“Funny how Repugs are the first to point out someone in the other party as a bigot but refuse to recognize their own or address the racism in themselves.

but his problem is that applies equally to the Democrats and especially to race baiters like the Clintons. Both parties are cesspools of bigotry and homophobia.

Then polobear implies that the Republicans alone were responsible for deregulation. That’s a lie. Obama is as clueless and helpless as McCain to understand it or stop it.

In 1933 safeguards were built into the system to prevent a repeat of 1929’s Great Depression in the Glass-Steagall Act. It and other laws were meant to control the rabid profiteering of bankers and Wall Street predators. Bit all of these laws underestimated the greed and stupidity of the interlocking milieu of politicians and profiteering corporate leaders who own the economy and the Democratic and Republicans Parties.

In the 1970 a Democrat, Carter, supported by the Republicans, began to dismantle those regulations. Speculators like Neil Bush target the S&Ls and 1981 Carters deregulation resulted in 3,300 out of 3,800 S&Ls losing big money: 1,000 of them the dust. Bush, along with other fat cat politically connected rabid speculators (of both parties) were bailed out at taxpayer expense by the Resolution Trust Corporation to the tune of about $124.6 billion: a further $36 billion or so was stolen from working people by increasing fees for depositors and jacking up interest rates on loans.

The unregulated speculative raid on S&N led too a decade of increased taxes on working people (not the rich!) and spurred inflation. It’ll be much, much worse this time because, in addition to the war, it’ll cost trillions, not a few hundred billions.

Reagan, the Bushes and Clinton finished what Carter started: they let the financial predators out of their cages who began a feeding frenzy. Clinton and his Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, now Obama’s key economic advisor and CEO of CitiGroup, supported the deregulatory Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial act of 1999, which like DOMA, NAFTA, DADT and the Clinton/Bush genocides in the Middle East sailed though Congress with enormous bipartisan majorities: 90 to 8 in the Senate and 362 to 57 in the House.

A few years ago it all began to come apart. ENRON and WorldCom disintegrated, costing tens of thousand of jobs and revealing that the big auditing firms were little more than paid prostitutes, like the politicians who deregulated them. Those lost jobs were added to the hundreds of thousands lost to predatory profiteers who shipped them overseas with the blessings of Reagan, Clinton and the Bushes.

This year the dominoes began falling in earnest. And this time it’s not just a few S&L’s and a couple of hundred billion at stake. This time it’s FREDDIEMAC, FANNIEMAE, AIG, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and there’s conjecture that CitiGroup, Washington Mutual, Ford and a host of other companies, big and small, national and local are on the edge. And of course hundreds of thousands of jobs.

That’s up in the air for now, as is the awesomely momentous question; “Are we in the opening stages of a new Great Depression?” That’s just not clear yet, but the fact that it’s a real question is an indictment of the Democrats and the Republicans.

Nero soloed while Rome burnt. McCain and Obama are doing a duet; neither they nor anyone in their parties has a clue about how to solve this crisis. Obama’s advisor, Rubin, was Clintons Treasury Secretary who promoted deregulation. McCain’s economic advisors just want us to stop whining and accept wage cuts and a drop in the standard of living.

However many trillions of dollars Congress and the next President toss at the feet of the speculators who their deregulation allowed to run and create this crisis, working people will be footing the bill. Unless there’s a deep recession and a depression with stagflation, in which case all bets are off.

This awful crisis is the work of both parties. And yet some people still deny that the two parties are fundamentally the same when it comes to fleecing working people, starting genocidal wars and pandering to bigots.

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” Abraham Lincoln

This is no time for fools.

No foreclosures, garnishments, or repossessions: let working people keep it all.

Vote for the union led and financed Labor Party or vote Socialist or Communist, or write in some one like Abu-Jamal Mumia for president or just stay home (except where things like Prop 8 are on the ballot). But don’t vote for either of the lesser idiots on the ballot.

Fantastic at emptying their wallets.

“my guess is Barack is too”

The gall of some drones, to compare that hypocrite to Bobby Kennedy!
Sure lets ignore all the bullshit he has done so far. Let’s vote on a guess and not on the facts so far. Go grab 5 more New Orleanians all you want because that’s not where this is going to be decided.

Mary Mary chimps

James Meeks

Jeremiah Wright(who was one of a few who voted against marrying same sex couples in the general synod of the UCC although the majority of churches on the denomination do.) No wonder Obama feels the way he does about marriage.

Douglas Kmiec

add to that the rabid homophobes who now lead the DNC and you a great outcome for those who are pro Prop 8.

I said once and I’ll say it again Barack Obama on the ballot will attract the worst homophobes there are(his supporters) in CA who will end up making Prop 8 the law of the land.

And what will Obama say when that happens:

“I still think that these are decisions that need to be made at a state and local level. I’m a strong supporter of civil unions.”

“You know, I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman”

But hey Obama is the Gays candidate! Yay!!!!

Yay Hollywood elite in the pocket of Obama Gays!!

I guess when one is so filthy rich one can do without the benefits and responsibilities of Marriage, I mean if one even aspires to that. You know perhaps marriage is too below them.

Changey, hopey, Hope he changes! ’08

States are thus not accorded “rights” in the Constitution.

Nope. Marriage is an individual right. There is no such thing as a “state’s right.”

Still better than Palin in a stars and strips bikini holding a moosegun. She may be the first president to also appear in an episode of Girls Gone Wild

The message was indeed “ewwwww.”

Obama has no prominent openly gay friends or close associates, and given his willingness to cozy up to anti-gay bigots, I know I have my reasons for suspecting why that is.

As for the continued ranting against people holding Obama to account based on the facts, how many of them were ranting against John McCain’s close relationship with John Hagee (sp)?

So McCain can be slammed endlessly for the homophobic views of one of his preacher buddies and that’s responsible — but when one does the same with Obama, that’s “right wing?”

Give me a break.

If the Democratic candidate cannot endure internal criticism, and would fail in the election just because of internal criticism, then the Democrats chose the wrong candidate.

Heck, the present polling suggests they chose the wrong candidate. The Democrats slipping behind and then into a tie with the GOP, given the economic and political situation, is absolutely pathetic. This should be the epitome of a can’t-lose election, but instead Barry’s fighting for his life and reaching out to bigots to peel off some of the right-wing crazy vote.

I’m hardly trying to peel off gay support for Obama. He’s the best candidate. Vote for him. Please.

But if his campaign does not feel any pain when they put anti-gay people out to speak for him, then they will continue with the strategy. The Donald Hitchcock mess alone should be enough to convince all gays not to donate to the DNC or the Democratic presidential campaign. The accompanying push to keep words like “gay” out of the platform, to make the party more comfortable for anti-gay bigots should make us very less patient with tactics like this.

Vote for Obama.

Just send your money to support gay candidates, or at least those who are unambiguous in their support of us. And to defeat Proposition 8 and other anti-gay statewide initiatives.

Here’s how it will happen…

1. Karl Rove has already “fixed” voter records to such an extent that the Republicans will win the White House in 2008 no matter what lunatics they run as candidates.

2. John McCain is a very sick man and it is unlikely he will last the four year term.

These are not idle theories.

They’re backed up with all-too solid evidence:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/430.html

Doubtlessly, if another party’s nominee was campaigning with these people (say, Sarah Palin or Ralph Nader), AWJD05 and similar partisan bullies would be rushing to state that this “proves” that the other candidates are homophobic and hatemongers.

The hypocrisy is absolutely galling.

It isn’t, but I can talk about it anyway.

Obama has refused to co-sponsor companion legislation for the MREA in the Senate. Result — the anti-gay military policy persists, due largely to Obama’s inaction.

Obama has been a passionate opponent of marriage equality. He cites his religion as a basis for this. He supports segregation in marriage, a separate-and-sorta-equal “civil unions” arrangement that is no different from the segregated schools and institutions for African Americans of 50 years ago.

Obama has refused to co-sponsor the Uniting American Families Act. As a result, thousands of same-gender families remain separated by discriminatory immigration law. Obama has repeatedly stated that he’s opposed to the law because it could be “abused” by illegal immigrants — a criticism without basis.

Obama has refused to sponsor legislation to end anti-gay adoption laws in states that receive federal funding for adoption laws.

In fact, on the issues that matter, Obama has done nothing but talk.

That’s a manifestly poor record, no matter how AWJD05 spins it.

My job is not to accept the blather of the ridiculous partisan Democrats like AWJD05 who are trying to sell Barack Obama as the Second Coming (and pro-DOMA, anti-gay-military-service Joe Biden as an “advocate of equality”).

My job is to point out the facts about their voting records as an advocate of equal treatment under the law.

So far, AWJD05 and similar partisans have launched endless attacks on me and others who demand a factual approach to gay issues and their candidate. But they haven’t delivered the goods on why their candidate deserves gay support because they cannot.

Their candidates have atrocious records on the issues that simply cannot be avoided, papered over, or insulted/bullied into silence.

If they truly care about the LGBT community, AWJD05 and similar people will put the energy they’ve spent bullying the LGBT community and redirect it towards demanding action from their do-nothing party and do-nothing candidates.

He doesn’t support us, he supports a candidate who’ll continue the mass murder of civilians in Iraq, increase the pace of murder in Afghanistan and who wants to invade Pakistan, a nuclear power. Obama’s only opposes DADT because he’ll need cannon fodder. AWJD05 is a right pro war jackass who thinks that the mauling of GIs and the mass murder of Middle Easterners is ok as long as the US controls the oil. AWJD05 is vile.

AWJD05 supports Obama because he’s a bought and sold hustler answerable to Wall Streets, the jackasses who are ruining the economy. Obama opposes socialized medicine and supports NAFTA-like laws that destroy unions, our only guarantee of prosperity and economic equality. AWJD05 is a right wing shill who supports that.

The Democratic Party is a cesspool of homophobia. DOMA, DADT, ENDA, Hate Crimes, Obama’s strategy is based on pandering to bigots and he’s still doing it. AWJD05 is a right wing closet case who loves his partisan closet.

Thankfully the Left and the LBGT Left have plenty of resources to repair the country after McCain/Obama and their supporters finish wrecking it. AWJD05 is a right wing sick joke who’ll oppose that, but he doesn’t count so that’s not a factor.

Vote for the union led and financed US Labor Party of for socialist or communist candidates as a protest. If not join the scores of millions who sit it out because they’re smart enough to refuse to vote for the lesser bigot, the lesser warmonger or the lesser evil. And don’t forget to vote against all the anti-GLBT referenda and initiatives.

If civil unions/civil partnerships were the norm for everyone we could support them. If marriage as an instituiton promoted and sanctioned by superstitious cults were abolished we could support that. Then and only then could we support civil unions/civil partnerships, because then we wouldn’t be second class citizens, but equal before the law.

As it is civil unions without benefits, which is what Obama and Peter Pan support, are only for the closeted: they exclude the rest or our communities.

The Democratic and Republican parties are the last closets. It’s time to break down the closet door and come out into the real world fighting, Peter Pan. It’s never too late.

Go back to your hateful, right-wing blog, where you can wallow with your backwards, prejudiced friends. But I suspect the folks on this blog and others are too bright to be susceptible to your empty, factually unsupported assertions.

So again, I say, BRING IT. Bring on any criticism of Obama and tell us all how you substantiate it. Because frankly, we all know you don’t have anything. Tell us all the other “right wing religious extremists” that you claim feel comfortable with Obama. And then, when you’re done attempting (and likely failing) to come up with something better than McClurkin, tell us–LGBT Americans–the politican you think should be our next president who has a better (and longer-standing) record of equality.