Jehovah's Witnesses are centrally controlled by the fundamentalist New York Watchtower headquarters.These are uneducated old men who rule and dictate from their limp ivory tower.

The shunning that the Watchtower enforces is absolute,my own JW mother was required to 'treat me as dead' when i exercised my religious freedom to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses .
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Danny Haszard~been there an expert witness on the jehovah witness

I worked at Watchtower headquarters from 1974 to 1980 and can testify to their repressive religion. It is wonderful to be free and to help set otehrs free from this corrupt religion that is now known to harbor pedophiles that go door-to-door. www.silentlambs.org

the jw's drop by my house about once every couple of weeks to witness and drop off leaflets. i love to have fun with them so while they are talking to me, i am playing with my nipples which makes them a bit uncomfortable.

i tell them how i worship farrah fawcet majors and that i put no other god before her.

i had one that got so pissed off at me, that she shot me the finger in front of her child.

i am sure that logo will purchase the jehovah witness chain in order to gain more positive exposure for
their sexy twin cocksuckers. i wouldn't be surprised to see jehovah himself/herself on the cover of the advocate soon. it is gay global incest.

jack jett

Ahhhh, the utter hyprocrisy of the Watchtower cult. For 100 years they declared they had NO TOLERANCE for other beliefs.They disfellowshipped and 'treated as dead' a million loyal members who dared to question in good faith.

Now,that their false prophecies have been exposed, they do a passive/aggressive bait and switch and whine how they should be treated no worse than the other "false religions".

Yes,now admitting they're false too,1914 generations issue,whole blood issue,United Nations involvement coverup scandal...

JW Jeff

I used to be a Jehovah's Witness,too. I converted to Judaism 5 years ago and now belong to a Reconstructionist Synagogue. We welcome Jews of all sexual orientation who want to belong to our Synagogue. I have no problems with individual Jehovah's Witnesses, as long as they aren't pedophiles and don't let their children die from lack of a blood transfusion. Even the Orthodox Jews who try and keep all of the 613 laws in the Hebrew Bible agree that a blood transfusion is not the same as eating blood. All the blood tranfusions in the world will not save the life of a starving man. Blood is not food unless it is eaten. Think about that when your child is dying, members of Jehovah's Witnesses. The blood transfusion ban is from men , not God.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are a religion, nothing more-nothing less. We have our rules and it's a voluntary thing. If you don't like it there's a host of "nice" religions to choose from. We go by the Bible only. That's why we don't celebrate pagan influenced holidays or have lifestyles akin to this morally corrupt world. We are willing to let our children die to obey God while others choose to let their children die to serve their respective countries. You do the math. Most of those who talk nasty about the JWs are just upset because they want to have the best of both worlds. The clean morals of the JWs and the twisted ways of the world. Most were kicked out of the org. for conduct non-becoming a JW and are bitter to the extreme. These twins made a decision and they will live by it till they return to the faith(if ever). It's entirely their decision.

Jehovah's Witness lie --""The Jehovah's Witnesses are a religion, nothing more-nothing less." (You do claim do be the superfine one true religion)

"We go by the Bible only" (you go by the Watchtower's countless man made doctrines")

"Most of those who talk nasty about the JWs are just upset because they want to have the best of both worlds." ( We are men women and children some born 3rd generation JW who are repulsed by Watchtower cult abuses)

the One said: "We are willing to let our children die to obey God-"
Wow, the truth from a JW for a change! That's what Jehovah's Witnesses said when there used to be a Watchtower ban on organ transplants, too. In 1980, God changed the rules and told JW's it now was OK to have an organ tansplant. And the WT never said "We're Sorry" for the JW deaths that could have been avoided. As long as JW's have this willingness to sacrifice their children to please their Watchtower overlords then the public must be educated about this dark satanic-like side of JW Kingdom Hall mind control. Is it any wonder that 99.9% of the world's population has rejected the preaching work of Jehovah's Witnesses ? The only ones who don't get it are the Jehovah's Witnesses. Next time you go door to door Mr. One, be sure and explain to the householder how willing you are to let your kids die. See how many indoctrination studies you get telling the truth about yourself.

"Most of those who talk nasty about the JWs are just upset because they want to have the best of both worlds. The clean morals of the JWs and the twisted ways of the world. Most were kicked out of the org. for conduct non-becoming a JW and are bitter to the extreme. "

A lot of those that have anger towards the JW's are upset because they were abused sexually, physically, psychologically by elders, ministerial servants, other family members and nothing was done about it. It was only glossed over. Maybe some were kicked out due to "conduct unbecoming", but a lot of abusive people, even pedophiles, have been left in with little or no reproof and definitely no legal authorities contacted. Yes, this is a religion....why is it then that these twins and countless other people, homosexual or not, are treated like they are dead by their own parents and other family members? No religion should condone that.

Jehovah's Witness do NOT study the bible. They study the Watchtower, Awake and the many books this religion publishes. That is why they can teach something different than other churches.
All I have seen this religion do is tear families into pieces. It may be 10 or 15 years later but it would seem to me that pain is the reward in the end.
For those who are doing a "study" with a Jehovah's Witness, beware. Important items like the degree of shunning [if you differ from even the slightest points that the Watchtower teaches] a glossed over when the person is going through the 7 step Watchtower conversion.

This religion will tell you at first that all your family will appose you. That is right, because your family for the most part loves you.
They will tell you not to read any critical information about them. Don't read anything that will challenge the belief system of the Watchower.
This is a very very HIGH CONTROL group.

Beware.

From someone who cares.

Now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Jehovah's Witnesses are a very special type of people. They believe the Bible, every word of it, and strive to live their lives as Jesus did, preaching and teaching and explaining to all the way they dedicate their lives to Jehovah God. No one, not family nor government nor outsiders, can come between them, the Bible, Jehovah, and Jesus. If you belong to another religion, do you actually know what the teneants of that religion are, I doubt it. Most people say they are the religion that their parents are, why? Can you name any other religion that refuses to kill their fellow man? Do you know that Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the big reasons why we now have bloodless surgeries? That they are behind some of the biggest reasons for your freedoms to still be secure, especially in the U.S.A.? The next time you have a Witness stop by your door ask to see their Transfusion DVD or the new Whole Association of Brothers and then have a friendly conversation with them, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprise.

The only reason that members of the Jehovah's Witness stay is because the organization makes up a lot of nonsense about it being God channel of communication on the earth. Jehovah's Witness when debating will circle from one topic to the next and the person debating them will have no effect. Not because their positons are so strong, but because they are so scared that the organization is Jehovah's. The truth is that much of what the Watchtower has said over the years has turned out false (they cover up using the Light is getting brighter" arguement like some other minority religions).
By the way the Mennonites doen't kill people either.
As far as Jehovah's Witness winning freedoms in the courts for everyone, I have to suggest that doesn't mean a thing when the average member of the Watchtower is not given any freedom from their High Control Group.

The JW's are benign in all the sense of the word. The shunning is a loving bible principle to instill the person who stumbled to get back up. It also protects the congregation. I have a brother who's been dis-fellowshipped for over 20 years and right now he's living with my parents and he's being cared for as much as possible. We as a family shun him only to a degree necessary to help him.
The blood thing has been taken out of the ball park. We follow bible principle as far as blood is concerned and if there's a decision concerning a child the parents are the ones who decide unless the courts intervene, in that case we reluctantly have to concede.
Jehovah let His Son die for an important reason and I don't see anyone calling Him a criminal for doing so, on the contrary, most people are very appreciative for that ransom.
We do not control peoples minds. We teach them the bible and let them decide if they want to live their live according to bible principle.

Guard Against Deception by Apostates

6 Satan has long used apostates in his efforts to seduce God’s servants. (Matthew 13:36-39) Apostates may claim to worship Jehovah and to believe the Bible, but they reject the visible part of his organization. Some even return to the God-dishonoring doctrines of “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion. (Revelation 17:5; 2 Peter 2:19-22) Under divine inspiration, the Bible writers used strong words to expose the motives and the methods of apostates.

7 What is it that apostates want? Most are not content to leave the faith that they once perhaps viewed as true. Often, they want to take others with them. Rather than going out and making their own disciples, many apostates seek to “draw away the disciples [that is, Christ’s disciples] after themselves.” (Acts 20:29, 30) Regarding false teachers, the apostle Paul sounded this urgent warning: “Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey.” (Colossians 2:8) Does that not describe what many apostates try to do? Like a kidnapper who carries an unsuspecting victim away from his family, apostates prey upon trusting members of the congregation, seeking to carry them away from the flock.

8 What methods do apostates use to achieve their aim? They often resort to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehoods. Jesus knew that his followers would be victimized by those who would “tell all kinds of evil lies against” them. (Matthew 5:11, Today’s English Version) Such malicious opposers would tell what is not true with the intent to deceive others. The apostle Peter warned about apostates who would use “counterfeit words,” spread “deceptive teachings,” and ‘twist the Scriptures’ to their own ends. (2 Peter 2:3, 13; 3:16) Sadly, apostates succeed in “subverting the faith of some.”—2 Timothy 2:18.

9 How can we guard against being deceived by apostates? By heeding the advice from God’s Word, which says: “Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17) We “avoid them” by steering clear of their reasonings—whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet. Why do we take such a stand? First, because God’s Word directs us to do so, and we trust that Jehovah always has our best interests at heart.—Isaiah 48:17, 18.

10 Second, we love the organization that has taught us the precious truths that so plainly separate us from Babylon the Great. At the same time, we recognize that our knowledge of God’s purpose is not perfect; our understanding has undergone adjustments over the years. Loyal Christians are content to wait on Jehovah for all such refinements. (Proverbs 4:18) Meanwhile, we will not abandon the organization that God is pleased to use, for we see the clear evidence of his blessing upon it.—Acts 6:7; 1 Corinthians 3:6.

Guard Against Self-Deception

11 Imperfect humans have a tendency that Satan is quick to exploit—self-deception. “The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate,” says Jeremiah 17:9. And James wrote: “Each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire.” (James 1:14) If our heart gets enticed, it may, in effect, wave sin enticingly before us, making it appear attractive and harmless. Such a view is deceptive, for giving oneself up to sin ultimately leads to ruin.—Romans 8:6.

12 Self-deception can easily ensnare us. The treacherous heart may rationalize away a serious personality flaw or make excuses for a grave sin. (1 Samuel 15:13-15, 20, 21) Our desperate heart may also look for ways to justify questionable conduct. Take, for example, the matter of entertainment. Some entertainment is wholesome and enjoyable. However, much of what this world offers—in movies and television programs and on Internet sites—is obscene and immoral. It is easy to convince ourselves that we can view seedy entertainment without any harm. Some even reason, “It does not bother my conscience, so what’s the problem?” But such individuals are ‘deceiving themselves with false reasoning.’—James 1:22.

13 How can we be on guard against self-deception? To begin with, we need to remember that the human conscience is not always reliable. Consider the case of the apostle Paul. Before becoming a Christian, he persecuted Christ’s followers. (Acts 9:1, 2) His conscience may not have bothered him at the time. Obviously, though, it had been misdirected. “I was ignorant and acted with a lack of faith,” said Paul. (1 Timothy 1:13) So the mere fact that certain entertainment does not bother our conscience is in itself no guarantee that our course is right. Only a healthy conscience properly trained by God’s Word can be a safe guide.

14 If we are to avoid self-deception, there are some helpful suggestions we need to keep in mind. Analyze yourself prayerfully. (Psalm 26:2; 2 Corinthians 13:5) Honest self-analysis may open your eyes to the need to make some changes in your viewpoint or ways. Listen to others. (James 1:19) Since self-examination tends to be subjective, it is wise to listen to the objective words of mature fellow Christians. If you find yourself making decisions or acting in ways that are questionable in the eyes of balanced, experienced fellow believers, you might ask yourself, ‘Could it be that my conscience has not been properly trained or that my heart is deceiving me?’ Regularly feed on the Bible and Bible-based publications. (Psalm 1:2) Doing so will help you to keep your thoughts, attitudes, and feelings in harmony with godly principles.

Guard Against Satan’s Lies

15 Satan uses a variety of lies in his efforts to deceive us. He tries to convince us that material possessions bring happiness and satisfaction, yet the opposite often proves true. (Ecclesiastes 5:10-12) He would have us believe that this wicked world will go on forever, although there is clear evidence that we are living in “the last days.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5) Satan promotes the idea that there is no harm in pursuing an immoral life-style, even though pleasure-seekers often reap bitter consequences. (Galatians 6:7) How can we avoid being deceived by such lies?

16 Benefit from Biblical examples. The Bible contains warning examples of individuals who were deceived by Satan’s lies. They loved material things, lost sight of the times they were living in, or gave themselves over to immorality—all with bad results. (Matthew 19:16-22; 24:36-42; Luke 16:14; 1 Corinthians 10:8-11) Learn from modern-day examples. Sad to say, occasionally some Christians lose their sense of urgency and come to believe that by serving God they are missing out on something good. They may leave the truth to pursue a life of so-called pleasure. However, such individuals are “on slippery ground,” for sooner or later their ungodly conduct will catch up with them. (Psalm 73:18, 19) We are wise to learn from the mistakes of others.—Proverbs 22:3.

17 There is another lie that Satan has effectively used—the lie that Jehovah neither loves us nor values us. Satan has had thousands of years to study imperfect humans. He well knows that discouragement can weaken us. (Proverbs 24:10) Hence, he promotes the lie that we are worthless in God’s eyes. If we are “thrown down” and become convinced that Jehovah does not care about us, we may be tempted to give up. (2 Corinthians 4:9) That is just what the great Deceiver wants! How, then, can we guard against being deceived by this satanic lie?

18 Personally take to heart what the Bible says about God’s love for us. God’s Word uses some touching word pictures to assure us that Jehovah notices us and loves us as individuals. He puts your tears in his “skin bottle,” meaning that he sees and remembers the tears you shed in your struggle to remain faithful. (Psalm 56:8) He knows when you are “broken at heart” and is near to you at such times. (Psalm 34:18) He knows every detail about you, including the number of “the very hairs of your head.” (Matthew 10:29-31) Above all, God “gave his only-begotten Son” in your behalf. (John 3:16; Galatians 2:20) At times, you may find it difficult to believe that such scriptures apply to you personally. We must, however, take Jehovah at his word. He wants us to believe that he loves us not only as a group but as individuals.

19 Recognize and reject the lie. If you know that someone is lying, you can protect yourself against being deceived. So, too, just knowing that Satan wants you to believe the lie that Jehovah does not love you can in itself be a powerful help. In response to a Watchtower article that warned about Satan’s tactics, one Christian said: “I never realized that Satan tries to use my feelings to discourage me. Knowing this gives me the motivation to fight these feelings.”

20 Consider the experience of a traveling overseer in a South American country. When making shepherding calls on fellow believers who are downhearted, he often asks them, ‘Do you believe in the Trinity?’ The discouraged one usually answers, ‘Of course not,’ realizing that this is one of Satan’s lies. The traveling elder then asks, ‘Do you believe in hellfire?’ Again comes the answer, ‘Of course not!’ The traveling elder then tells them that there is another satanic lie that is usually not recognized as such. He directs their attention to page 249, paragraph 21, of the book Draw Close to Jehovah, which exposes the lie that Jehovah does not love us as individuals. The traveling overseer reports positive results from thus helping discouraged ones to recognize and reject this satanic lie.

Safeguard Yourself Against Deception

21 During this final part of the last days, it is to be expected that Satan will continue to launch an avalanche of lies and deceptions. Thankfully, Jehovah has not left us in the dark regarding Satan’s deceptive tactics. The Bible and the Bible-based publications of “the faithful and discreet slave” clearly expose the Devil’s evil methods. (Matthew 24:45) Being forewarned, we are forearmed.—2 Corinthians 2:11.

22 Let us, then, keep on guard against the reasonings of apostates. May we be determined to avoid the subtle snare of self-deception. And let us recognize and reject all of Satan’s lies. By doing so, we will safeguard our relationship with “the God of truth,” who detests deception.—Psalm 31:5; Proverbs 3:32.

Please Google "Jehovah's Witnesses and see for yourself the vast array of informational pages,and why high control cults like the JW's shun the internet.

Who are Jehovah's Witnesses?

Up close and personal Jehovah's Witnesses can be wolves in sheep's clothing.

Think about this-When the devil comes knocking on your door he may not have the 'dark goth look'.They could be smartly dressed and wielding the Christian Bible.

I have Jehovah's Witnesses family in the USA who practice the Watchtower JW enforced ritual shunning that i have not seen or heard from in 15 years.

The central core dogma of the Watchtower is Jesus second coming (invisibly) in 1914 and is a lie.Jehovah's Witnesses are a spin-off of the man made Millerite movement of 1840.

A destructive cult of false teachings, that frequently result in spiritual and psychological abuse, as well as needless deaths (bogus blood transfusion ban).

Yes,you can 'check out anytime you want but you can never leave',because they can and will hold your family hostage.

Jehovah's Witnesses are often a mouth that prays a hand that kills.The Watchtower is a truly Orwellian world.
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Danny Haszard Jehovah's Witness X 33 years and 3rd generation

"Stuart" above is a longtime Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower cult apologist who demonstrates what happens when a JW is confronted with facts.

Come in and spam copyrighted and illegal watchtower magazine cut & paste full of Bible thumps.

See,tactics like this is why JW's get the door slammed in their faces.

I feel so sad for these Jehovah's Witnesses. I was a 5th generation daughter of an elder. I began to ask questions of Christians to really know what they believe. I decided that they must have scriptures to back up what they said and wanted to know how they were so deceived. I knew that they had men going to colleges for years of their lives but they never could see "the truth". I talked to them and had them explain to me what they belive. I was amazed to see that their doctrine was much more sound than that of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I am happy to report that I am now a true Christian. I have learned that the requirements JWs set out for the true religion were wrong. I learned that the real requirement was that a religion trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. (Acts 16:31; Is 53:6) I learned that they would then demonstrate works, not ONLY door knocking, but also helping the poor, elderly, and orphans. The works would be not an effort to earn salvation but a thank-you for what Jesus has already done. Salvation is a free gift and it is not by works that we are saved so that no man can boast. If it is truely a free gift we can not work for it. (Romans 6:23; Eph 2:8-9)
I think the biggest reason that I left was because I started to read Romans and John from the New International Version of the Bible. The messages contained in those books are amazing. Also, getting away from the NWT for a moment to read other Bibles like the NIV will help you to unlock truth.
The statement Jesus made that you will know my disciples by the love among themselves is really true. I have experienced more love in my church than I ever imagined coming from a kingdom hall. They have been so sensitive to my needs and loving. They have brought me flowers when my father had a heart attack and he wouldn't allow me to visit him. They offer support and pray with me. A friend in my Sunday school started to meet with me once a week in the prayer chapel to pray together. This has been an amazing ride in God's love and I can't wait to see what else he does to help me grow. I can truely feel a difference at how much easier it is to follow God's commandments when He is in my heart to help me along.
Remember though: "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draw him." (John 6:44) Rely on Jehovah and he will truely show you the way to "truth"!!

Michael Jackson is/was a Jehovah's Witness. I think that about says everything that needs to said on this subject.

From Google News today:
A JEHOVAH'S Witness died in a Sheffield hospital after refusing a blood transfusion for a hysterectomy.

Alison Mallinder, aged 44, suffered complications during surgery at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital and died five days after the operation
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The One and other JW's reading this need to stop trying to support your murderous psuedo Bible doctrine that bans blood transfusions to save lives. This lady would still be alive had she realized that blood is food only if it is EATEN. A blood tranfusion gives no nutrition to the body, but glucose does. A blood transfusion does not violate any OT Bible laws against eating blood. The Jews who understand the OT laws know this and so does everyone else in the world. During the time that you read this could another JW have died from refusing a blood transfusion? How many children been sacrified to the blood thirsty Watchtower Society?

Bloodless medicine

http://www.watchtower.org/e/medical_care_and_blood.htm
bloodless medicine
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=EKZ&q=bloodless+medicine&btnG=Search

KNOCKING opens the door on Jehovah's Witnesses. They have won a record number of U.S. Supreme Court cases expanding freedoms for all Americans. In Nazi Germany, they chose the concentration camps over fighting for Hitler. They refuse blood transfusions on religious grounds and embrace the science behind bloodless surgery. They are moral conservatives who stay out of politics and the Culture War. KNOCKING follows two families who stand firm for their often controversial and misunderstood Christian faith. Their stories reveal how one unlikely religion helped to shape history beyond the doorstep.
http://www.knocking.org/ is new PBS documentary
Jehovah's witnesses and civil liberties
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=P3t&q=jehovah%27s+witnesses+and+civil+liberties&btnG=Search

The Watchtower Society as a United Nations NGO
a critical look at the conspiracy theory
http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/

The real question is: why did Jacob and Joshua (and others who've been disfellowshipped) make a dedication and get baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in the first place?

(Don't blame their parents or the elders, either, as they knew that this was a totally personal decision.....and they also knew the consequences ahould they ever break that vow.)

Remember that Jehovah's Witness book back in the early years? MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE.
Well unfortunatly, most of the millions are now DEAD.
Shows you what kind of channel the Watchtower is.
God would never use this organization if that is the best it can do.

'The One' said, "The JW's are benign in all the sense of the word. The shunning is a loving bible principle to instill the person who stumbled to get back up. It also protects the congregation. I have a brother who's been dis-fellowshipped for over 20 years and right now he's living with my parents and he's being cared for as much as possible. We as a family shun him only to a degree necessary to help him. "

THAT'S JUST TWISTED! Any "thinking person" would agree. Shuning is a purely childish, manipulative tactic to shame someone into conforming to their rules. How many times have you heard a 3 yr old say to another 3 yr old while in the presence of Sally, "Let's not play with Sally. She won't let me play with her doll." So what does Sally do? Offer her doll to the other two girls to gain acceptance. Same difference.

Shunning protects the congregation from whom? What are Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY afraid of? Learning something false about their religion!? If they researched the internet and the history of their organization, they may even learn it is a high-demand group (aka a cult) that uses deception and fear to manipulate its members. Read Robert J. Lifton's eight points of mind control. Mind control is all about getting someone to do something they normally would never do. Would a loving mother NATURALLY shun her child for the rest of her life? Absolutely not! My JW mother, who hasn't spoken to me in 25 years simply because I left the cult (NO SIN WAS INVOLVED!!!) once wrote me a letter back in 1981 criticizing a man in another religion for refusing medical treatment for cancer, which resulted in his death. She wrote, "How foolish!" Why can't she see that refusing blood transfusions is also refusing medical treatment? Because cult members are like the monkey (hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil) who blindly follow every directive of its owner for the next "treat" that emerges from the owner's pocket. In this case, the owner is the Watchtower organization and if you tightly tow the line, you are accepted and loved. If you don't, you're like poor Sally--out in the cold. That's conditional love and isn't what Jesus taught us.

If anyone wants more info, please email me. I provide educational newsletters for anyone who wants to learn more about the Watchtower organization and why millions have abandoned ship.

Brenda Lee, "Out of the Cocoon: A Young Woman's Courageous Flight from the Grip of a Religious Cult," www.outofthecocoon.net

The Watchtower world headquarters in New York is staffed by about +1,500 mostly young men (boys) many who are closeted.I know i was one

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE A COCK SUCKING CULT

What they did to Jacob and Joshua is hypocritical of the Watchtower leaders,so what else is new?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=jehovah%27s+witnesses+cult&btnG=Search

GO AHEAD CLICK ME

Shunning is a biblical principle, plain and simple. Not always is being shunned a nice thing to take but it works if the person being shunned is humble enough to accept his/her mistakes and correct them. It's understandable that some JWs have applied shunning in a wrongful way and that can have a contrary effect on the one being shunned, but the bible principles are there and if applied correctly they work. If a Christian purposely misbehaves, God takes away His spirit (shunning), when the person repents and looks for forgiveness God may give that person His spirit again. Can we imagine God giving His spirit to all people regardless of their conduct? ... I don't think so. Or does the bible tell us to go ahead and associate with all kind of people because that way we may "learn" something that perhaps He Himself is keeping from us? ... Unlikely. Otherwise we shouldn't complain if our children want to associate with people which we know can harm them and those people try to convince our children that their parents are wrong and they shouldn't be obeyed.

Sad to say that my conversion to
being a Baptist gave me more pleasure
than ever watching my grandmother
study with the WT.

"Obsession breeds contempt"

JW's have done good job of educating the public about their inability to admit their mistakes and how they dance around inconvenient facts about their overlords, the Watchtower Society. Being Gay for most people is how they were born, and is no reason to shun a family member over. Science is solving the genetic mystery of how this happens to the unborn child and sexual orientation is just what you are born with.
The public is wise to the deceptive and controlling ways of the Kingdom Hall. I have no doubt that former/ex JW's now outnumber active JW's. Go ahead JW's, and stay in the dark- do you really think that you are smarter than the other 99.9% of the world who have figured out that the last 100+ years of Watchtower history proves them to be a false prophet? Just look at what one of your own members of the Watchtower Governing Body said about it. God knows about it-- hell, everybody knows about it except the cowed Jehovah's witnesses in the Kingdom Hall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Franz

""Danny Hazard says:
Sad to say that my conversion to
being a Baptist gave me more pleasure
than ever watching my grandmother
study with the WT.

"Obsession breeds contempt""
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Above NOT posted by the real Danny Haszard

The Jehovah's Witness troll who goes around impersonating me goes to show the sicko pretentiousness of everything about their fraud for God watchtower cult.

They are the door to door spammers of the world!

Lighten up Danny

"Above NOT posted by the real Danny Haszard"

Both of you are off topic.

Heinz

ps. Both you dannys don't even spell your names the same!!

The word APOSTATE

Sorry but the word apostate means someone who abandoned their religion, political party or ideals.
It does not mean someone who left the Jehovah's Witness religion only.
By its definition, it would meen that half the Jehovah's Witness who left their previous religion are apostates

Sorry Watchtower but you can't hide the truth forever.

Bethelite above is spot on they do party hardy at patterson.

It's all night all day gay play

All the smearing and name-calling won't take away the fact that the JWs are the true bible religion. If we accepted blood, celebrated "Christmas", became gay or whatever else these apologetics want us to become we would be just another run-of-the-mill canned religion, easy to digest for people who don't like bible principles. Jesus said we would be hated just like he was hated.

"" Jesus said we would be hated just like he was hated..""

WRONG

Jesus was hated because he was the son of God

Jehovah's Witnesses are rejected because they are an oppressive fraudulent religious cult.

Your core dogma is that Jesus had his second coming (invisibly) in the year 1914 and made the watchtower boss.
It's your own blaspheme of your own doing

So here we have it. Two thousand years had passed, and there was not Truth on the earth. Then a hundred years ago some dude named Russel was all of a sudden Gods channel of communication to the world.
Almost 2 thousand years of darkeness till a bunch of old farts from the governing body of the Watchtower American religion decided that they were Gods secret society. No one can understand the bible without them they want us to believe. Then they come up with a different version of the bible, I mean real different. They can not find anyone who is a known scholar to support it. The former governing body member Franz identifies the New World Translation translators. They have no greek, hebrew or arabic skills except one of them with less than 2 years greek training.

Yea, are they ever the true religion. NOT.

Jesus called the "scholars" of his days hypocrites. The so called scholars of today are the ones saying we came from monkeys and that the "star of David" was benign, among other nonsense.
It didn't take a rocket scientist to see the mistakes in older translations of the bible, just a bit of God spirit was enough. The bible said the true religion would be dormant because of the great apostasy. Today God has cleaned out His house.

If you want a giggle, just google Danny Haszard.

Looks like "The One" is now running out of gasoline.
Now lets take a look at the situation.
The Watchower organization is so easy to get in. First they lie to you about doing a bible study [it is really a book study of one of the organizations books], then you go to the Kindom Hall where everyone can put into practise their "love bombing" skills. After a few lessons where you learn to not challenge the organization because it knows and is supperior to you, then you get baptized because it is what everyone else has done.
By this time you have been encouraged to forget about all your friends and family because they are so called worldly.
Then one day it hits you. This is not the truth and if I sqay a thing I will lose all my new friends and other JW family and will be punished forever.

What a deal folks.

Mathew 11:30
Acts 8:31
Ecl.5:4
Gal. 6:3-5
1Cor.15:33
1John 2:19
1Cor. 5:12

This is a GAY blog!
Why the religious talk?
My grandmother would roll in her grave!

Maybe this subject will make some come out of the
closet where they may have been locked up ~ dealing
with things that rule their lives.

Hopefully we will see all of you give comments on our other blog subjects !

"Obsession breeds contempt"

Alex,
Ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy you stupid moron.

Hey Dan Hazard

Ever wonder why the Watchtower has to use their own publications? Because they build their teachings only around less than 6% of scripture. That way they can use a small amount of the bible and 94% of their own thoughts and colouring. If the Watchtower could only use the bible itt would not be able to stand up to the scriptures.

As far as The One and their scripture sample, why don't they make a habit of reading the whole book of Matthew, then maybe the whole book of Acts etc.
Maybe there is much more of an opportunity for you in here than you think. The only book that you read cover to cover doesn't have to have the Watchtower tract and bible society writen on the inside cover of it.

I hope the young men in the article return to Jehovah. I hope all those who are confused return. For those who aren't confused ... tisk,tisk.

Jehovah's Witnesses think that who ever gets the last post last word wins the argument by default.

This is why we must SLAM the door in their faces when they come to our doors.

The Jehovah's Witness Good News (or Gospel) is that the world is so bad. Then the salvation is only reached by joining the Watchtower secret society since the elderly governing body of men in New York State.
Sounds not too bible based. Sounds very simular to the Mormon church.
These are both doctrines of demons.

Alex - Sounds more like you're hitting the demon rum.

Danny - Maybe he's having what you're having.

Did they ever do any porn together?

I wonder if "The One" is using his log on time on this board so he can top off his minimum requirement of 10 hours a month. The Watchtower organization wants you to think that the door knockers are only motivated to do door to door work out of love. The truth is they have to turrn in a report card every month.
Hey knuckles....stop trying to pretend that you are a Jehovah's Witness tough guy.

Alex - You're wrong about "The One." You can't count time spent on whining apostate losers as field service.

P.S. You didn't answer nikki's question about you and Danny.

The Central CORE doctrine/dogma of the Watchtower cult is 1914.
This is by their own admission that they have printed up in a hundred million of their propaganda publications.

No way they can squirm out of it now.

The reason the Watchtower sect came into existence in 1880 was to declare that Jesus was to have his second coming in 1914.
Jehovah's Witnesses are false prophets of a man-made religion.

He never came then and he never made the watchtower cult the boss.~Danny Haszard

We have nothing to fear from an obnoxious religious cult that 99% of the worlds' population knows are bullshit.

Watch out everyone for knuckles [The One]. He is a Jehovah's Witness tough guy [as if there is such a thing].
Did you get kicked out of the society knuckles for chasing little girls or did they do a cover up for you?

Does anyone remember Beth Sarim?
This was a house the Jehovah's Witness had in Sandiago California that was to be for the resurected Abraham, Iasiac and Jacob back in the 1940's. The drunkered 2nd president Rutherford quietly lived there till the religion quietly sold it.

Just another example of the things that did not come true from the Governing Body. I wonder myself what kind of God would use such a piss poor organization for caring out his purpose. In other worlds the Watchtower has not a thing to do with Truth.

Alex - Now you've got me confused with Danny.
Anton - Here. This site should help you out: http://www.theparentreport.com/resources/ages/toddler/development/799.html

Come come knuckles. Your little fantasy of being a JW enforcer is coming to an end.
Time to go to your boring service meeting.
Don't let one of the elders pinch your butt.

Alex, I wouldn't want to leave here when I still have so much to learn from your Christ-like example and Danny's cult expertise. Too bad Danny's still on his meds.

So says knuckles, Jehovah's secret weapon fighting the forces of evil..

"I shall not speak much with you any more, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me . . . " -John 14:30
Alex, I leave you to your ruler. You know the one I mean. Like all apostates, you have no thoughts of your own originality and when you run out of hate, you run out of anything to say except childish nonsense.

Hey knuckles.....are you related to Michael the archangel?

No wonder the elders gave up on these guys. They are so stone headed, nothing gets in. I'm so glad the elders are doing their job. I don't wish you all wrong, hopefully some of you will recover and just remember your time in the "world" as a time of discipline. If you could just listen to yourselves, it's just so hilarious. It's obvious you don't care about the bible, much less the truth of it. Of course we have an organization, it's not secret and the elders who preside have no self interest whatsoever. They get replaced as they die off or leave for other reasons. Don't pretend not to know that. You guys just didn't want to hack and can't take the heat of being shunned. If you don't like Witnesses so much then shouldn't it be a good thing to be shunned by them. Forget your JW family since they are a bunch of "nuts" anyway.

"The One" is in a high control group.
That is why he can only say what the governing body has programed him to say.
Carry on "The [robat] One".

The Jehovah Witness cult is very anti-gay. This organization wants gays to die and constantly preaches ant-gay rhetoric. I am pro gay rights and I am hurt that this organization is so hostile to homosexuals.

Many gay members of the Jehovah Witness cult have been driven to suicide because of the organizations teachings. This is because the cult says that gays are worthy of death.

Hey, what has happened to the Christian enforcer known as knuckles? You know, the guy who like to think he is a loving Christian, yet uses worldy titles like knuckles and makes porn gay sex jokes about others.
I guess we just have another Jehovah's Christian Hypocrite.

Bye bye tough guy knuckles

Just dropped back in to see how the inmates were doing and what do you know but there they are messing their own cells again. Typical. Now they added another wacko, Sr. Peper. If his website wasn't so gigglishly stupid I'd call him out for the big, fat liar he is. But, to paraphrase a proverb, "Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and, besides, the pig likes it."

Alex, quit begging me to post. Get a life.

knuckles.....do they call you brother knuckles or do you just use this name when you want to pretend you are a tough guy?
Don't forget to add your comment time to the monthly field service report. We wouldn't want this witnessing time to not make it into the yearbook!

Armagedon is just around the corner!
The end is at hand!
False religion end is near!

This is all we have heard from the Watchtower religion for over 125 years.

Stop lying to people. Not a thing that this religion declares comes true. The Watchtower has little credibility.

The Watchtower is just full of BIG TALK.
Not the people, but the dishonest ones in the headquarters. Many have left this high control group because they got them all hyped up, suggesting that the so called "system of things" was near the end.
But guess what. Nothing happened. I remember one Jehovah's Witness girl who told me in 1985 that the Armagedon would be here probably within 5 years, definetly within 10. Well how about 22 years later and still nothing. So what did she get? She shunned her mom and her mother died years later on the operating table. She lost her sister who has seen the lies of this organization. Some Christian religion. Nothing but heartache. That is all people get after being in this group years after. Disappointment and loss of family.

Do your research before joining in a bible so called study,(you will notice that you really end up only studying their own publications).

Has anyone ever seen a Jehovah's Witness turn down their Christmas bonus from their workplace?
I haven't.
Kind of funny how that works.

If one person does somthing bad now you think the rest are all bad,its ridiculous how some people belive that all the Jehovah Witnesses are bad,come on GROW UP!
Iis like little chidren,you tell them somthing and they belive every one is like that;stop making it a big deal!

Vivian.....please note that the Watcthower has the widest brush one could imagine. They are the WORST for labeling and generalizing. It is at the point of being pathetic.

Alex...before you critisize i suggest u visit a Meeting and you should see for your self how the witnesses are,thier loving and kind.The publications are their to helppeople understand about Jehova thas why they go door to door because thier concern for other people;they do what the bible says.Sorry you have that opinion of them.

To:'Vivian' you can't even spell or take the time to dignify your Pro Watchtower cult submission with a quickie spell check.

This demonstrates the sheer arrogance of so many Jehovah's Witnesses who are so profoundly ignorant only 5% of members of college degrees because the Watchtower leadership shuns higher education.

WHY? Because cult leaders want to keep their followers dumb 'barefoot and pregnant'.

Don't be a cult drone,don't bend over and be their little bitch

Look idiot (EX-Bethelite),dont bring others down just because you lost your faith in Jehovah!!!
"Because of everything in the world,the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of the one's means of life,does not originate with the father , but originates with the world.Futhermore, the world is passing away and so it's desire, but he that does the will of god remains forever." (1 John 2:16,17)So,im doing the will of Jehovah;so, have a nice life,(whats left of it) because its passing away.

When is our lives passing away Vivian?
Your Watchtower high control group has been bluffing people for 125 years with that line.

Make sure you get your minimum 10 hours field service time in so you can put it on your field service report!!! Sorry. I forgot. You only put in 10 hour strickly because of your love (more like so you are not black marked by the congregation as being spiritualy week).

One other thing Vivian
I won't be able to make it to your meeting.
To bad. I was looking forward to your congregations performance of LOVE BOMBING that you folks are trained to do.

The Jehovah's Witness religion is so staged.

I dont know what all the fuss is about here. Either you believe in the Bible or you don't. Pretty simple if you ask me. The Bible is Jehovah's Witnesses may tool for teaching. We do have the Watchtower and Awake magazines as Bible STUDY AIDS. If you dont like them, dont read them, but at least read the Bible. We are the way we are because of what the Bible says. Many here seem to have a problem with the disfellowshiping part of being a JW. Im sorry but that is the instruction given in the Bible that is supposed to take place if you commit a sin and are not sincerly repentent. Now i understand that some may feel they were delt with unjustly, and that may be, but are you going to get mad at God for a inperfect elders dicision in the congregation.

Anyways, that probably means nothing to those who already hate Jehovah's Witnesses, but it's like i said, if you read the Bible and follow what it says, you would act and do just like the fine upstanding christians that are in the congregation. Even if you were not a JW. But it's up to you if you want to believe what the Bible says. But you cant have your cake and eat it to. Everyone knows that.

Jehovah's Witnesses DON'T "go by the Bible" they are not benevolent.

Followers are dominated by Watchtower man made rules & dogmas what the real Bible (not their doctored up blasphemous version) call's "doctrines of demons"

HELLO AGAIN on 1914 Tell us all about how Jesus had his second coming in the year 1914 and how nobody saw it except Watchtower cult followers.

We are waiting

cy likes to talk about disfellowshiping as if the person did some great sin. He avoids the subject about when someone is disfellowshiped because they don't agree with some detail of this high control group.
By the way. It is a lie that the JW's only use Watchtower and Awake as bible aids. They use the bible as their secondary reference book.
Nice try.
People are learning the real truth.

even though this has already been said, i would like to say it again because it seems like people just don't get it....the whole disfellowship thing is in the bible... people can call it "messed up" or "twisted" don't whine to the people who follow this rule because they didn't make it up, its written in the bible so if u know how to read and you "believe in God" you should def. read the bible before you argue about it.

Nonsense
The bible does not say that a handfull of old men from New York will be given the power to determine the smallest details of interpretation and ONLY they will be the instrument for God communicating with the world. It does not say that if anyone disagrees with even the smallest of details that these men say, then they have the power to cut them off from all their family and friends for the rest of their life.

Cut the bull.

""" Tell us all about how Jesus had his second coming in the year 1914 and how nobody saw it except Watchtower cult followers."""

It's your CORE doctrine and we are waiting for your answer!!

Danny Haszard Bangor Maine

Like the bible says there will come ridicules with their ridicule;anybody who talks bad about the JW's are ridicules. "You know this first that in the last days their will come ridicules with their ridicule,procieeding according to their own desires and saying were is the promised presence of his?Why from the day are for fathers fell asleep in death,all things are continuing exactly as from creation's beginning." (2 peter 3:3,4)
DOES THIS SOUND FAMILAR!!
AND,What is Jehovah's reaction to the people who don't belive that the "Great day of Jehovah is near"(Zephaniah 1:14)

Like the bible says there will come ridicules with their ridicule;anybody who talks bad about the JW's are ridicules. "You know this first that in the last days their will come ridicules with their ridicule,procieeding according to their own desires and saying were is the promised presence of his?Why from the day are for fathers fell asleep in death,all things are continuing exactly as from creation's beginning." (2 peter 3:3,4)
DOES THIS SOUND FAMILAR!!

Vivian stop skirting and shirking the only real issue with apologetic Bible thumping

WATCHTOWER IS A MAN-MADE CULT

Jehovah's Witnesses are rejected because they claim that Jesus Christ has already had his second coming in the year 1914.

This is blaspheme and we don't like blasphemers now do we?

Yours truly,Danny Haszard

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