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— Fri, Apr 13, 2007 —
Harvey Fierstein Ain't Having Imus Scandal
Removes Gloves To Fight American Hypocrisy

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We're in the middle of costly war. raq's parliament has been bombed. People continue to die in Darfur. Yet, for some nonsensical reason, our news organizations can't shut up about Don Imus' big mouth. Have we entered some sort of alternate universe? Maybe. Or maybe we're finally addressing America's innate self hatred.

As gay actor Harvey Fierstein writes in today's NY Times:

Our nation, historically bursting with generosity toward strangers, remains remarkably unkind toward its own. Just under our gleaming patina of inclusiveness, we harbor corroding guts.
Prejudice is nothing new. Our nation endorsed slavery for over two hundred years. It's the outrage over prejudice that's surprising. What's more surprising, Fierstein writes, is that people are raising such a stink over Imus' relatively benign remarks and not calling for other people's heads.
What surprises me, I guess, is how choosy the anti-P.C. crowd is about which hate speech it will not tolerate. Sure, there were voices of protest when the TV actor Isaiah Washington called a gay colleague a “faggot.” But corporate America didn’t pull its advertising from “Grey’s Anatomy,” as it did with Mr. Imus, did it? And when Ann Coulter likewise tagged a presidential candidate last month, she paid no real price.

...You cannot harbor malice toward others and then cry foul when someone displays intolerance against you. Prejudice tolerated is intolerance encouraged. Rise up in righteousness when you witness the words and deeds of hate, but only if you are willing to rise up against them all, including your own. Otherwise suffer the slings and arrows of disrespect silently.

Indeed. How can a nation - an entire nation - shake a fist at a cadaver of a radio host and not do the same against other offenders? How can people claim to be incensed when they've let other slip-ups slip past? Either Americans really love Rutgers or they've got their heads up their asses. We choose the latter. But at least America's finally talking about its bigotry. Hopefully something good will come of this. If not, it's been a supreme waste of time.

Comments


No. 1
Jerry says:

Wow. First Giuliano, now Fierstein, and still not a peep out of Solomonese. This has got to be some kind of record.

April 13, 2007 12:02 PM
No. 2
Kamasutra Jones says:

I never read that pinko commie New York Times except for their arts coverage, which is phenomenal. But today, this Op-Ed caught my eye. Although I probably do not agree with Harvey on some things political, he nails the head on this one. Funny thing is that Imus didn't even use the N-word. Well, other than "nappy." Meanwhile, that N-word piece of trash Isaiah Washington still collects his million-dollar paycheck after using the "other F-word." Are blacks the only people who can claim foul and win? Certainly looks that way. And THAT is what is wrong with this country. Our singular look at prejudice as an issue of color alone.

April 13, 2007 12:09 PM
No. 3
Martini-boy says:

I think Mr. Harvey should create a duo with Cindi Lauper. That would be grand!

April 13, 2007 12:17 PM
No. 4
James says:

Kamasutra Jones,

Your hypocrisy is amazing. You complain about Washington but then say this: "that N-word piece of trash Isaiah Washington..." Oh but I guess one way to fight hypocrisy is to engage in it yourself.

You are a racist and a little bit of a coward. Just come out and call Washington a "nigger." We know you want to.

April 13, 2007 12:21 PM
No. 5
jack e. jett says:

mr. fierstein is RIGHT ON with this one, and i love the yellow gloves. they look very familiar.

this seems to be much ado about nappy. i have never been an imus fan, but the crimes of washington ( who is being repped by a gay pr firm) far outweigh those of imus. al sharpton is a media whore who has called jewish areas "hymie town". jessie jackson has claimed that he will pay for the education of the slut that accused the lacrosse playerss or rape even if she is found to be a liar.

if i had a dime for every time i was called a nappy headed ho .......just on this blog, i'd be one rich ho.

jackjett

April 13, 2007 1:35 PM
No. 6
James says:

Hey there Jack. If you are going to dog out Revs. Jackson and Sharpton at least get their stories right. It was Rev. Jackson, not Sharpton, who called NYC "Hymie-town" in 1984.

April 13, 2007 1:50 PM
No. 7
jack e. jett says:

James....sorry, that is what I get for blogging before
bonging.

jack jett

April 13, 2007 2:08 PM
No. 8
qjersey says:

Right on Harvey.

About 20 years ago when I was coming out...my mother once said something about those "n*****s* ruining a nearby neighborhood. I immediately read her the right act by saying, well there are way more people in this world who would kill your faggot son over a *n******* any day. She got the point. Ironically she now works for a senior housing complex with mostly black residents and when one of my nephews let the nword slip afew years back, my mother read him the riot act and reminded him that all the old black ladies at the senior center were always very nice to him, so why would he use such a word.

April 13, 2007 2:54 PM
No. 9
Paul Raposo says:

Give 'em hell, Harvey!

"I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."
--Harry S. Truman

April 13, 2007 4:29 PM
No. 10
Kamasutra Jones says:

Hey Jesse, what makes you so sure that I'm not black?

April 13, 2007 5:10 PM
No. 11
James says:

Hey KS,

Jesse, James. I know it's complicated. My name is James. You called Washington an "n-word" because you are too cowardly to use the word nigger. Makes no difference to me your color. You is a coward and racist. Any other questions?

April 13, 2007 5:53 PM
No. 12
el polacko says:

how about if everybody just grows a set ? 'sticks and stones..' and all that. BFD.

April 13, 2007 6:18 PM
No. 13
E says:

How old is that photo of Harvey? I never saw him looking so good. Where is the GLBT community's version of Al Sharp Tongue and Jesse Jackson?

April 13, 2007 6:49 PM
No. 14
Jay says:

Harvey Fierstein has it right: " Just under our gleaming patina of inclusiveness, we harbor corroding guts."

April 13, 2007 7:35 PM
No. 15
Michael says:

Harvey Fierstein got it perfect!! I want to know where was Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton when Imus made homophobic comments.....where was the outrage then and calls to fire Imus?!! Bill Maher made Gay jokes to Al Sharton on "Politically Incorrect" and all Sharpton could say was 'well you made two homophobic comments and I didn't ask to have you fired'. Sharpton makes my point.

Imus has said he was wrong and that he often makes moronic stupid comments...but he has also said he doesn't think being Gay is immoral (this was in response to Peter Pace's comments..whom he called a moron and the fact that Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton didn't object to those comments..Indeed, Obama in his book "The Audacity of Hope" said he personally believes "homosexuality is immoral" based on his religious beliefs)

As Rosie O'Donnnel said "what happens now..who is next in being fired by the thought police?"......

Imus may not be a saint...but then add to the list every other shock jock and add to that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for their hypocriscy...

I am outraged that people like Sharpton and Jackson don't make a comment or a single movement at homophobic comments by gansta rappers and comedians and others (or the likes of Jackson sarcastically commenting that homosexuals choose a lifestyle....while he chooses to have a child out of wedlock, have affairs on his wife, and then rail against the fact that str8 men who watch strippers are one step away from domestic violence.)

The hyprocrisy stinks in this situation.....The First Amendment trampled on....and elected officials and unelected ones using hypocrisy to advance their agendas, while never once complaining when there is rampant homophobia expressed and acted upon in society.

Harvey Fierstein speaks truth to power and to powerful moronic hypocrites....

My anger toward them is far stronger then Imus, who expressed remorse, regret, apologized, had his apology accepted by the Rutgers women's basketball team and over the years has been the first to call Bush out on things like Katrina (which he called racist), his outrage expressed at the Iraq War, strongly supports a green environment and a host of other progressive causes..Yes, he is an old man that had a moron for a producer (Bernard McGuirk said the comment first...Imus was a moron to pick up on it and Bernie should have gone years ago....he eggs on Imus, who usually calls Bernie a moron....but this time stupidly joined in on a beyond horrible comment)

As Harvey said, no one stands up for our community..so as far as I am concerned these hypocrites don't deserve an ounce of sympathy from me....Imus was thrown under the bus today...tomorrow it will be Rosie, then the day after that Bill Maher, and so on..while the First Amendment dies quickly.....in the thought police society we live in......and of course during the entire process.....engaging in homophobia will be the one agreed upon unwritten acceptable rule..which makes me mad as hell and then some.

I also believe deep down Imus is no racist nor a homophobe and he gave an audience to the anti Iraq War, pro veteran and green environmental view points....that is now gone...along with many a liberal politician who claimed to support him then threw the First Amendment under the bus with him..

that scares me...because it also says they would throw us (and often they do) under the bus at the first chance they get.....

April 15, 2007 1:51 PM
No. 16
James says:

Michael,

"Indeed, Obama in his book "The Audacity of Hope" said he personally believes "homosexuality is immoral" based on his religious beliefs."

What are you smoking? Please share it because it must be some strong stuff. Obama never says this in his book. Yes he's for civil unions as opposed to same-sex marriage. If you want to get on him for that fine, but please try not to make stuff up.

April 15, 2007 2:05 PM
No. 17
Michael says:

James...try reading Obama's book...he states that his Christian beliefs are such that homosexuality is immoral. Try reading his comments regarding Peter Pace..when he refused to condemn Peter Pace's comments that homosexuality is immoral....and refused to say anything against Pace's comments!

Obama has said he realizes that his Christian beliefs are such that he sees being Gay as immoral....then he tries to cover it up by saying he understands that is hurtful (pages 222-224 of his book) but the bottom line is he states his Christian beliefs guide his every day life.

I speak the truth...you may not like hearing it..but it is the truth!

April 15, 2007 2:40 PM
No. 18
James says:

Michael,

Good to know you are a truth-teller. Makes me feel a whole lot better: However, how does your vision of the truth deal with this transcript on CNN's "Situation Room."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/28/sitroom.02.html

Here is what Obama said about General Pace:

"I'm not sure that the story got out there properly. I mean, what happened was I was leaving a firefighters' union meeting and trying to get in my car and did not respond to a reporter's query at that point. I wasn't responding to reporters period because I was trying to make a vote. Subsequently I made it very clear. I don't think that gays and lesbians are any more moral or immoral than heterosexuals and that I think it is very important for us to reexamine the don't ask, don't tell policy because it's costing us millions of dollars in replacing troops that by all accounts are actually doing a good job but are simply being kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation."

Here is what he says about same-sex marriage:

"Well, I think that 'marriage' has a religious connotation in this society, in our culture, that makes it very difficult to disentangle from the civil aspects of marriage. And as a consequence it's almost -- it would be extraordinarily difficult and distracting to try to build a consensus around marriage for gays and lesbians. What we can do is form civil unions that provide all the civil rights that marriage entails to same sex couples. And that is something that I have consistently been in favor of. And I think that the vast majority of Americans don't want to see gay and lesbian couples discriminated against, when it comes to hospital visitations and so on."

You are right that he's a Christian (just like every other mainstream candidate running for the White House). He's not for same-sex marriage. Attack him all you need to but maybe you need to read more about him. Seems like you have no idea what you are talking about.


April 15, 2007 5:08 PM
No. 19
Michael says:

James and it seems you don't either...try reading his book..in which he said regarding Gays when he said that his prejudices and predilctions are such that his religious beliefs are that he is against homosexuality....

and you fail to mention that it took "clarifications" from Obama regarding Peter Pace's comments and that his initial (which is always the most honest reaction) was he didn't object to Peter Pace's comments..so enjoy your delusions since you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about!

April 15, 2007 8:10 PM
No. 20
Stan says:

Homophobia is a big hurdle we need to jump over as a nation. Most people know racism is wrong, I believe in a few decades homophobia will be regarded as offensive as we view racism today.

Whether it is homophobia in the black communist or racism in the gay community, minority communities need to stop double standards of prejudice. I personally don't believe there is as much racism in the gay community as some people believe but we should call other gay people on it just as readily as we would call someone on their homophobia.

And Kamasutra, don't call Isaiah Washington that, that would make you a hypocrite. For your information, Isaiah Washington has done a lot to make up for his comments. He apologized and agreed to be in a commercial against homophobia, get off the man's back and any gay person who was racist during that controversy really needs to shut the fuck up and stop being a hypocrite.

April 22, 2007 10:37 PM
No. 21
Stan says:

btw, I meant "community" not "communist" lol

April 22, 2007 10:38 PM

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