I don’t get it. I don’t get how she’s become an icon in our culture when she did very little to earn it. I don’t see her as having any talent.She’s a pretty girl, but I don’t see how making a sex tape should parlay into millions of dollars and worldwide iconic status. I don’t get it.”
Mad Fashion star Chris March on how Kim Kardashian is the fashion anti-Christ, in Passport.
Randi
When we turn off the television program and do not follow bloggs or read about her antics in print, she will go back to obscurity.
Hephaestion
She’s useless, hateful, and ridiculous. I agree with Chris March.
jason
It’s stupid gay men who have made Kim popular. Oh, and let’s not forget silly females with their obsession for “pretty females”.
christopher di spirito
We were checking out at Stater Brothers yesterday and virtually every tabloid and gossip magazine at the checkout had Kim K’s picture screaming out at us.
I casually said aloud to my partner, “I am so tired of the Kardashians. If I never saw them again it would feel like I won the lottery.”
The people ahead and behind us heard me and they all agreed. The comments from the shoppers about the Kardashians were far more harsh then anything said on Queerty.
christopher di spirito
@jason: Shut the fuck up, Jason, before I kick your ass.
Geno
She’s. (Kk). An asshole !
Mr. Enemabag Jones
She’s famous because everyone wants her life–fame and fortune, without actually having to work hard for it.
Clcross18x
I think the real question is why does it matter to so many people if she is famous or not. I personally don’t like Lindsay Lohan and think she is useless, but you won’t see me wasting time on whether or not she’s useless or has talent or any of that. I just ignore her.
Anyways, she’s not anymore useless or untalented than anyone else in Hollywood. For that matter, who exactly is the judge of what someone has to do to earn icon status in our culture?
If you don’t like her….then don’t watch her. Otherwise, don’t hate the player, hate the game.
not another clone
Its interesting that people are quick to call someone useless that they have no personal contact with. I for one do not get the glorification of KIm but guess what, i dont buy the magazines or watch the show,it my choice. Yet somehow ramdom people feel they have the right to launch these personal attacks from behind the blue screen… I wonder what their response would have been if similar comments were directed at their family. I do not look to the kardashians or any famous person to be my moral compass. In the end i think its a case of envy.. either at the physical, or the fame or the ease at which they have been able to parlay that into wealth.
In fact that is one thing i do commend her and the family on, the abilty to turn a sex tape into a mutli million dollar global empire.. and here i am work my 9 – 5 everyday. KUDOS to you KIM.
fredo777
@Clcross18x: I disagree with the point you made that Kim isn’t more untalented than anyone else in Hollywood. I think there are lots of folks who are more talented, but I do agree with your “don’t hate the player, hate the game” sentiment. Just because I don’t like a particular celeb, I don’t blame them for taking advantage of the opportunities offered.
For instance, I’m not a Justin Bieber fan but I don’t knock the fact that he went from obscurity to a kid who self-promoted via YouTube to where he is now. If people are willing to buy his music/movies/cosmetics, more power to them. As for Kim, if someone said they were willing to give you a lifestyle of making millions + being seen as somewhat of a celeb for doing nothing of note would you take it or would you stick to a normal, 9-to-5 life? I think if anyone answers the latter, they’re probably lying.
In the reality tv age, everyday “nobodies” can become household names + build fanbases via social media. Is that a good or bad thing? Depends on who you ask, but I don’t blame the folks who got their big break by appearing on a reality show (ahem…like Chris March himself did on Project Runway) + extend that into a more lasting career in the spotlight.
Fame whore? Aspiring Star? Tomato, tomahto.
MKe
I don’t get why this guy has a TV show and not just a job designing outfits. I saw his segment on Watch What Happens and he has zero talent it was hard to watch.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@fredo777:
Depends on who you ask, but I don’t blame the folks who got their big break by appearing on a reality show (ahem…like Chris March himself did on Project Runway) + extend that into a more lasting career in the spotlight.
You’re really comparing a person who worked in his chosen industry, had his talents recognized, and was invited onto a show to compete against others, and their talents; to a slut who fucked someone elses boyfriend on camera, and then sold the video to a porn company?
You’re in your early twenties, aren’t you?
shannon
I agree….I have always said this is getting stupider by the minute! Our culture has degraded into a sham where stupidity rewards with fame/money…
fredo777
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: My age is irrelevant to this argument. Suffice it to say that I’m old enough to know that there are people who have a problem with anyone who parlays a stint on reality tv (even if he/she has some discernible talent) into further stardom, calling them fame or media whores. Did you not read the other comment suggesting that Chris should just “stick to designing outfits” instead of being on TV? While I don’t necessarily agree with that sentiment, you’d be foolish to think that March’s current popularity/fame/bravo tv show isn’t hugely due in part to his appearance on Project Runway.
If you better comprehended my comment, you’d realize that I’m not making a judgment on either Kim or Chris but simply stating the fact that while he is hating on her, there are others who are hating on him + others like him for using a reality show to boost/jump-start their career.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@fredo777:
…you’d be foolish to think that March’s current popularity/fame/bravo tv show isn’t hugely due in part to his appearance on Project Runway…there are others who are hating on him + others like him for using a reality show to boost/jump-start their career.
Everything Chris March has–from being a contestant on a reality show, to his current celebrity, were brought about by an actual talent, an ability recognized by others in his chosen field.
That you would conflate fucking one’s way into celebrity, with using one’s talent, and work experience to achieve either a career, or celebrity, demonstrates your inability to differentiate between a work ethic, and simple self-importance.
fredo777
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: You are becoming more + more ridiculous. I have not once argued against Chris’ talent or for Kim’s. Your willful ignorance in regard to my quite obvious stance on this issue in order to win points in an argument is entertaining, though. Perhaps you should be on tv.
Phil
You say Kim Kardashian has no talents. I must respectfully disagree. She is talented in areas. She used her body and her wits, along with the wits of others, to get name recognition. She parlayed that recognition into money and fame, which got her more of both.
Manipulation is talent. It’s a good one too. It’s what gets unions and business operators to agree to things. It’s what keeps bad people from doing bad things, good people from doing good things, bad people from doing good things and good people from doing bad things.
She isn’t untalented. But she is a stupid bitch, so, y’know, she deserves all the hate she gets.
Interesting
Her “talent” is being a mirror for how vacuous the American press and public is. Her “substance” represents the substances of the public at large. When people “see” something in her, they are saying they see their own limited ideas of worth.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@fredo777:
I’m not trying to score points, sunshine. I’m simply pointing that you’re defending the absurdity that is Kim Kardashian, while comparing her “accomplishments” to that of someone who actually works, and who happened to have been on a reality program–once.
Chris March made his career in fashion, and that parlayed into one season on a reality show. Kim K. made her career by getting pissed on by Ray J., and has parlayed that in a $17 million payday for a marriage, she had no intention of staying in.
You may not have, “argued against Chris’ talent or for Kim’s,” but you have presented the two as equal, simply because one of them was on a reality show for one season; while ignoring the fact that Chris was on a reality show because he has talent, while the other because they let someone elses boyfriend fuck them raw on video.
Interesting
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: ditto what you said. March’s fashion is not my taste, but he’s clearly someone with real talent who is working within the field of his talent. The only thing they share in common is being famous, and that’s like saying she’s the same as a great singer or actor. The fact is there are people who famous for their talent, and there are people who famous for being famous. The two are not the same except for the fame part, and that’s not a basis of comparison without understanding the talent issue as separate.
fredo777
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: “I’m not trying to score points, sunshine.”
Good, because you’ve monumentally failed to do so.
“you’re defending the absurdity that is Kim Kardashian”… “but you have presented the two as equal”
Bullshit. I have presented the two as what they are. Two persons who have (for whatever reason) taken advantage of the opportunities for celebrity afforded them. I am aware of how Chris + Kim got their respective fame, as it happens. Spare me the pop history lesson. As I already said in my first post, which I’m starting to think you didn’t even read/comprehend before responding to, “don’t hate the player, hate the game”.
Meaning, however the person got popular, don’t be mad at them for taking advantage of it. Be mad at the system/media/adoring public that allows their rise to celebrity, if you must. My argument wasn’t even about Kim/Chris, specifically, but anyone who went from obscure to celeb in this age. Any comparisons between these two individuals or connections made between them are only the result of Chris’ publicly voicing his opinion on her rise to fame. Go ahead, argue that referencing Chris’ undeniable career boost from appearing on reality TV means that I somehow think he is on par with Kim. That’s your right. It is stupid. As hell. But, it is your right.
P.S. Technically, Chris has been on a reality show three times (Project Runway, Project Runway All-Star Challenge, + now his own reality show ‘Mad Fashion’).
Interesting
@fredo777: the problem with your argument is that you can’t define what her talent is o utside of being famous, but given you were able to write multiple paragraphs so far saying the same thing each time without admitting theirs a difference, I don’t see my convincing you. so please continue
matt
Here’s a tip people:
DO NOT WATCH HER SHOW, DO NOT BUY HER PRODUCTS…..
THE END
fredo777
@Interesting: I’ll say it as many times as necessary until you finally get it. I didn’t define her talent because I never argued that she had any. That was never my point. As you were…
afrolito
I’m not a Kim Kardashian fan by any stretch, but I don’t have a visceral hate for her either. There are tons of marginally talented people in Hollywood, so I don’t see why she should be singled out for ridicule. She’s a beautiful woman who parlayed a sex tape into a multi million dollar fortune and business. She seems pretty smart to me. People are just jealous of her life, and everyone hating on her would trade places for her life in a minute.
As far as Chris March is concerned, who the fuck is he to question her status? He’s a marginally talented designer who got booted off a reality show. He’s not Marc Jacobs. Reality tv is the only reason he even has a platform right now.
Zack
I for one like Kim and her family except, the mom. I never seen porn flick thar made her famous… I mean why would I watch str8 sex for? Lol but I do enjoy watching her/their shows. And Chris, don’t be mad Cuz you can’t get legally married. Haha so don’t judge anyone’s marriage, as you don’t have any merit on why the are going through a divorce. If the divorce and marriage is was for money who died and gave you permission to act like Mister know it all? I mean if anything we less fortuned, lol peoples have to indulge our cravings for all things we don’t have, money,looks,VIP access to clubs, real jewelry, clothing for months, .. and so on and so forth. Enough stoned rambling. . Wtg Kim for chasing the American dream!!
Por Supuesto
worldwide iconic status is not right, no one knows who the F she is outside of the US… i wouldn’t recognize her myself although i heard the name lol
Mangina
Kim who?
Sugardeluxe
Chris March was working in the fashion/costume industry long before he ended up on Project Runway – AND it was specifically his over the top designs that garnered him attention. The television appearances were given to him based on these prior achievements – it was not the other way around.
“He’s not Marc Jacobs” – THANK the gods.
VictorG
While I agree with Chris March in principle, there is something I must point out. The people he dresses on his show, Mad Fashion, are the same ilk as those Kardashian bitches: Real Housewives of the Jersey Shore, “designers” I have never heard of and probably never will again, etc., etc. So what’s the diff, Chris? One “reality star” is just like another if you ask me. (And I am not referring to Mr. March himself, a talented designer who happens to be starring on a “reality” show.)
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@fredo777:
For someone not defending her, you’re sure spending a lot of time defending her.
fredo777
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: Girl, please. I’m defending the hustle.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go watch my ‘Keeping Up With The Karsdashians’ box set.
Michael
Everything that comes out of Kims mouth is superficial and arrogant its sad in all honesty.I mean I know the entire family are very gay friendly including her brother but its stuff like this that angers me.Here people are continuing to claim gays are destroying the sanctity of marriage when stuff like THIS is what is destroying it and HAS been destroying it for years.I don’t hate Kim but at the same time 72 days then divorcing is ridiculous.