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Racism Revealed At McCain/Palin Rallies


Things have been getting increasingly ugly at Republican presidential rallies across the nation. And we’re not simply talking about Sarah Palin bringing up Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the controversial preacher for Barack Obama’s former church.

Three distinct things went down yesterday at separate events across the country. First, there was a John McCain rally in New Mexico, where one over-zealous voter called Obama a “terrorist.” McCain said nothing.

Meanwhile, over at a Sarah Palin rally in Clearwater, Florida, another supporter offered this macabre suggestion for how to deal with Obama: “Kill him!” Nice. Perhaps the worst action went down at another Palin event in Florida, this time in Fort Myers:

In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric’s questions for her “less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media.” At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, “Sit down, boy.”

Excellent! So, the once-suppressed white rage that has festered for so long has finally been released not only on Obama, but on all black people! God bless America and its backward, idiotic denizens.

By:           Andrew Belonksy
On:           Oct 7, 2008
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  • 82 Comments
    • MEN-SAR
      MEN-SAR

      queerty writers, mind keeping this site neutral in its political coverage thanks?

      MCCAIN PALIN 08!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Qjersey
      Qjersey

      Hard to be neutral when the neo-cons and republicans WON”T shut up about how we are “less” than full citizens.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MEN-SAR
      MEN-SAR

      lol @ the above commenter making shit up

      mccain has never said that. liar.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Miss Understood
      Miss Understood

      Gay news has a point of view, it’s mission does not include neutrality. Jewish media does not give equal time to Nazis. Men-Sar if you are going to take the position of being a right wing fag then you’re going to have to accept the fact that most of us don’t agree with you.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MEN-SAR
      MEN-SAR

      i think its so pathetic how gays vote based on gay politics. since when does being gay define ur whole life?

      it also shows how stupid and selfish gays are.

      what about the economy and our safety???

      clue the fuck up, ALL OF YOU!

      MCCAIN PALIN 08!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jennifer Mohr
      Jennifer Mohr

      I’m not entirely positive how one would report this news in a ‘neutral’ manner, these actions occurred at McCain/Palin rallies.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jennifer Mohr
      Jennifer Mohr

      Wow, bigotry ftw? …

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MEN-SAR
      MEN-SAR

      well jennifer, if you informed yourself a little, you would see that these people’s views and actions do not represent mccain or palin whatsoever.

      i suppose obama being associated with a terrorist means he is one right? (actually that was bad example).

      :)

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rock
      Rock

      Republicans are racists and homophobes.

      Why is this type of repugnant behavior a surprise?

      They appeal to the lowest form of slime.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andrew
      andrew

      Men-Sar,
      I appreciate your comments, but we do remain fairly neutral and have praised the GOP in the past. If there’s racism about, however, we can’t pretend we’re not against it. It’s so outdated!
      xo
      AB

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MEN-SAR
      MEN-SAR

      @ andrew

      what a crock of shit. every political post on this site takes a stab at republican politics, yet obama’s shifty dealings and associations are never reported on. and you seem to forget the fact that obama doesnt support gay marriage anymore than mccain.

      oh and lol @ all the sheep on this site. think for yourselves, i dare you.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:12 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Darth Paul
      Darth Paul

      Don’t you have some Creationist website to douche up, menses-sar? The fact that you’re trolling a QUEER website only underscores who is, in fact, stupid here.

      As for “economy and safety”, we can thank your precious republicunts for fouling both of those for the entire country. We had budget surpluses when Bush was appointed to the presidency (not voted in, like real democracies do), and a strong military. Now we’re in a multi-billion deficit, on the verge of a second depression and our military is stretched pathetically thin (not to mention that many of our soldiers are traumatized by a bullsh!t war without end in a country that doesn’t have a f&cking thing to do with 9/11 or any real US security).

      So do yourself a favor and try spouting some sh!t you didn’t overhear on FOX. And if you have kids, I hope they all turn out transgendered communists and drop you in the shadiest nursing home this side of the equator.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      queerty writers, mind keeping this site neutral in its political coverage thanks?

      If you don’t like Andrew’s content then go start your own blog, you illiterate, inbred douche bag.

      mccain has never said that. liar.

      McCain has said he opposes gay adoption, opposes marriage equality in Arizona and has stated he believes marriage is a state issue, yet stuck his nose in Cali’s marriage debate–while running for the federal office of president.

      i think its so pathetic how gays vote based on gay politics. since when does being gay define ur whole life?

      And I find it sad that right wingers vote based on fear and ignorance. Right wingers invented identity politics with their “Moral Majority”, soccer/hockey moms, NASCAR dads, gun nuts and any of the other base emotions that fuel the fevered mind of you loons.

      it also shows how stupid and selfish gays are.

      Stupid and selfish to love Americans enough to fight for everyone’s equality?

      what about the economy and our safety

      The economy was fine until Bush started spending like a coked up Reservists on leave. There hadn’t been a foreign attack on American soil since 1812, until Bush took over and allowed his Saudi friends to fly planes into your buildings.

      …you would see that these people’s views and actions do not represent mccain or palin whatsoever.

      But McCain and Palin represent those people who harbor those insane views. In the land of the blind…

      i suppose obama being associated with a terrorist means he is one right?

      I don’t know. Ask Bush, Rove and Cheney. They seem to spend a lot of time hanging around the people who fund Al-Qaeda.

      every political post on this site takes a stab at republican politics

      Because they deserve it.

      …yet obama’s shifty dealings and associations are never reported on.

      Provide proof on his suspected shifty dealings and associations.

      and you seem to forget the fact that obama doesnt support gay marriage anymore than mccain.

      That’s like saying McCain doesn’t support gay marriage any less than Obama.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:39 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stuart
      Stuart

      You rock Paul!! :-)

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Berdie
      Berdie

      Andrew (at Queerty) –

      What nonsense! This post is among the worst I’ve seen on this site.

      Bad enough the title of the post – which suggests that either the racism came from McCain or Palin or was in some way supported by either of them. Even worse you end up with:

      “God bless America and its backward, idiotic denizens.”

      Any you wonder why readers of this blog see bias and anti-Americanism?

      Trutly bad, Andrew.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stevie Nicks
      Stevie Nicks

      what about the economy and our safety???

      What about it? McCain sucks on both counts.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MEN-SAR
      MEN-SAR

      ^ finally, someone with intelligence

      and i agree, this site is going down the gurgler faster that the economy. rip queerty.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 9:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jennifer Mohr
      Jennifer Mohr

      men-sar,
      “well jennifer, if you informed yourself a little, you would see that these people’s views and actions do not represent mccain or palin whatsoever.”

      Who said the people in the crowd were representative of McCain/Palin?

      Perhaps if you had passed Reading Comprehension 101, you’d realize that I nor the author of the article ever stated McCain or Palin were racist.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lisa
      Lisa

      While the comments weren’t coming out of their mouths, they certianly didn’t condemn them. And knowing the reactions they got previously, they are still saying things that bring these comments out.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chuck
      Chuck

      Conservative trolls have no place here. If you don’t like it, there are plenty of Nazi sites out there just for you.

      However, the words aren’t important. Get indignant about the policies. The quietly accepted hidden homophobia is the true enemy.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 24play
      24play

      What was Hillbill-y doing in Clearwater?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:21 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      Bad enough the title of the post – which suggests that either the racism came from McCain or Palin or was in some way supported by either of them.

      Bullshit. The title states that there were racist taunts at McCain and Palin events. What should the title have been:

      RACISM REVEALED AT EVENTS ATTENDED BY McCAIN/PALIN, BUT NOT NEAR McCAIN/PALIN, NOR ENDORSED BY McCAIN/PALIN–PERHAPS OVERHEARD BUT NOT ACKNOWLEDGE, BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY SUPPORT THE COMMENTS, BUT JUST DIDN’T HEAR THEM–NOT THAT THEY WERE IGNORING THEIR SUPPORTERS, BUT THEY WERE SORTA LOOKING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION AT SOME KID PICKING HIS NOSE AND DIDN’T QUITE GET THE ENTIRE THING, JUST THE GIST OF IT.

      Any you wonder why readers of this blog see bias and anti-Americanism?

      Andrew, like most libs, loves Americans, but has the backbone and integrity to question some of the foolishnesses he is seeing in American politics today.

      Right wingers on the other hand worship the state and have no qualms about denigrating the states’ citizens.

      The zeal with which so many right wingers worship the state borders on communism; where the state is paramount and it’s citizens merely tools to further the states’ position. America didn’t build itself–it was built on the labour of it’s citizens. Something too many conservatives forget.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      You rock Paul!! :-)

      *Blush*

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • greybat
      greybat

      And yet, Jennifer…it’s interesting that certain racists seem attracted to the McCain camp.
      Most of my relatives are republicans, and after a jack daniels or two, the level of conversation would shock you.
      Every ethnicity, gender, and faith is held up to blame for what seem to this tea-totaling fag, their own problems.
      I think I’d have less trouble with self-destructive behavior if they didn’t insist on taking the rest of us them.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dan
      Dan

      Mensies said:

      > obama’s shifty dealings and associations are never reported on.

      Funny. Remind me which VP candidate is under an active investigation?

      Can’t wait for Friday!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      Is it a strange coincidence that Men-Sar’s idiotic troll comments have popped up around the same time as Churchilly’s disappearance? Different name, same racist bullshit? Hmmmmm…

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      Oops, I spoke too soon…saw a post from his bitter ass from earlier today. Maybe he has just developed a split personality that is sadly just as stupid as the original one.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Excellent indeed! finally Queerty’s editors have finally come out and said what they truly think about the people of Americas heartland. It’s not like people have seen how the media elite is in the tanks for Obama and is doing everything they can to get him elected, noooo it’s just that they are “backwards” because all they should do is sit down and let Obama and his thugs do all their dirty campaigning that reeks with ageism, misogyny and disdain for people of the American heartland and its blue collar workers. To call them on it or just to engage in the process that has been establish every four years against the political opponent is racism. That’s the word with which they hope to terrorize and scare the American people into submission, and heavens forbid Obama gets in the White House we will never hear the end of it. Just imagine, everytime the American people would oppose something from him or his thugs they would be accused of being a racist just like they are doing now. Dictator tactics in full display.

      I say to McCain and Palin take the gloves off like you said you would but also explain to the American people in full detail both your plan for restoring America’s economy and how Obama and his thugs have contributed to the economic debacle we find ourselves in and how their polices and view for Americas future or in their case non-future would end up making our Nation no better than a banana republic.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marco channing
      marco channing

      For anyone who calls this site un-American, I have four words for you…

      The Boston Tea Party.

      Read up on your history. This country was founded on dissent. Without it, you cannot establish a Democracy or maintain a Democracy.

      As for the above story: quite a few blogs are reporting on what’s currently going on at McCain/Palin rallies. One report had someone shouting “kill him” about Obama. McCain is guilty of rousing up this sentiment by calling Obama a terrorist. Remember, this is a base that believes teaching creationism is schools in just fine.

      McCain cannot stir up this kind of sentiment, and then claim no responsibility for it. He and Palin are like the guys in “The Accused” that cheered the rape. They may not have committed the rape themselves, but they are making it happen. And Palin is charging the victims for the rape kits.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Berdie
      Berdie

      Paul – I am very sorry, but you are dead wrong. The title of this post reads verbatim:

      “Racism Revealed At McCain/Palin Rallies”

      It does not say Racist hecklers or anything of the sort. If someone were simply reading headlines – as many people do as they run through a paper or troll around the Web, this would leave the lasting impression that racism was “Revealed” at a McCain Palin rally. Racism itself has always been “revealed”…so what is being revealed at the McCain/Pallin rallies? Their support for it? One can only guess – but don’t insult anyone’s intelligence claiming this was an innocuous title or that it could not, in a similar amount of words, could have been clearer that the racism came from a bunch of bigots that have no connection to the candidates.

      There is nothing new or courageous about questioning Americans. In fact, calling Americans a bunch of backward idiots is the easiest thing to do in today’s political discourse – especially in a blog that leans strongly to the left. I don’t see even an ounce of backbone in making a comment like that, Paul. It is said to a chorus of nodding heads.

      Perhaps you think another poster on this board – Chuck – is a real profile in courage. After all, he was brave – and intellectual enough – to leave us with this little gem:

      “Conservative trolls have no place here. If you don’t like it, there are plenty of Nazi sites out there just for you.”

      So smart. So intellectual. So spot-on. I mean, sure, Nazis rounded up Jews and sent them on trains to burn in ovens at concentration camps. And sure, they killed six million Jews and five million other innocent people. But why should details like that get in the way of a really good jab at conservatives (which I am most certainly not, by the way).

      Hey – Chuck – if you only want to speak in uncontested venues, keep beating the completely false drum that anyone who strays from YOUR party line is a conservative nazi who should go elsewhere. You’ll never have a real position because you’ll never have to defend it.

      How brave.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      Berdie, that racism may have come from other folks, but it was obvious from the tapes that both McCain and Palin heard it and didn’t say a damn word about it. Why? Because they condone it. Just like when a questioner at one of McCain’s town halls called Hillary Clinton a bitch, McCain showed exactly who he is when he visibly reacted to some of the shouts of the audience but chose to remain silent. He may have been a hero once, but he’s nothing but a craven coward now. Their behavior made the title of this article completely accurate and appropriate.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Thank you Berdie, It was about time more people capable of intelligent reasoning posted here and positioned a mirror at Queerty’s hypocrisy and double standards. I mean the level of cheerleading they engage in for Obama has them blind to any logic, to the point that they would rather engage in cannibalism against their own GLBT who happen to be of another political view or party than let go of their fanaticism for Obama. Please don’t get discouraged and keep posting.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Web Master
      Web Master

      I am so thankful that Governor Palin has the guts to share things about Obama that the broadcast media, and some liberal cable pundits refuse to investigate. Broadcast news has a much larger core and cume audience; so it’s a genuine disgrace that they have been hiding crucial facts and figures. There is so much more to share, so, hang on democratic party, we are going to open up that can of worms you call Obama. A container that will reveal the true character of your unworthy candidate, he spews filth is full of hate and the enemy of this nation whom he should be serving.

      BO, Barack Obama AKA BS Barry Satoro is not intelligent, but he is polished, like Biden said “clean”, or so some would think. He’s not though, not really he is a thug, I promise you, his associations with the Vice Lords of Chicago will come out too. This reassessment of who Barack is needs to be done, not only for Barack’s defeat, but because the media elite need to fall as well. This hard working country deserves to know the truth about this duplicitous race baiting hater.

      I feel that anyone who votes the Obama Biden ticket are either (A) In a drug induced stupor. (B) Are completely clueless to the major character issues and associations of Barry. or (C) Hate America, Americans and all of the freedoms, shared compassion and our desire for fairness. We are not blessed because we live in a free nation; we have a free nation because we are blessed.

      The truth is, Obama and Biden will lose because he [Obama] his wife Michelle and his supporters are so malcontent and full of hate for this country. But this nation’s greater population is full of love and embraces the truth and the light. Tough love, Barry you will be better after all of this.

      (BBB, Bye Bye Barry)

      God Bless America!!
      http://www.GoMcCainPalin.com

      GREAT NEWS Shelly Mandell LOVES Sarah Palin!!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:17 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marco channing
      marco channing

      McCain linked to former Nazi collaborators.

      PETE YOST | October 7, 2008| AP

      WASHINGTON — GOP presidential nominee John McCain has past connections to a private group that supplied aid to guerrillas seeking to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra affair.

      McCain’s ties are facing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Barack Obama for his link to a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago.

      The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.

      The council’s founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group.

      “McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes,” Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. “I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn’t left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.

      “I don’t recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group,” Singlaub said.

      The renewed attention over McCain’s association with Singlaub’s group comes as McCain’s campaign steps up criticism of Obama’s dealings with William Ayers, a college professor who co-founded the Weather Underground and years later worked on education reform in Chicago alongside Obama. Ayers held a meet-the-candidate event at his home when Obama first ran for public office in the mid-1990s.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • greybat
      greybat

      “Truth,light, and love”? GREAT…another “performance artist”!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alan down in Florida
      Alan down in Florida

      About the only constituency McCain/Palin has left are white supremacists and more benign bigots. He is so out of touch with ordinary Americans who do not own so many houses (7) and cars (13) that they can’t remember them all and so wrong on every issue that they can’t run on the issues but need to descend into the political muck turning McCain’s assurances of a issue-generated campaign just one more casualty of his Pinocchio politics. At the rate he is lying on a daily basis his nose will soon be big enough to act as that Bridge To Nowhere which Gov. Palin was in favor of until she was against it.

      Paul Raposo for President.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marco channing
      marco channing

      Does Sarah Palin Want to be an American Citizen?

      By Norman Markowitz

      Sarah Palin is attacking Barack Obama for “palling around with terrorists,” twisting media accounts to falsely connect Obama with the Weather Underground figure Bill Ayers. Let me say that I have no sympathy, and never had, for the anarcho-syndicalist craziness and bona fide infantile leftism, that Ayers and his associates represented nearly 40 years ago, when Obama was in the 3rd grade.

      By contrast, Sarah Palin has real and documented connections to the Alaska Independence Party, which is far more extremist than even the most far right of the Republican Party. The main platform of that party, as Alaska Independence Party leaders have stated, is a rejection of the United States and an effort to cause Alaska to leave the union. Given what this party represents today, Palin’s ties to that party deserve to be an issue in the campaign.

      Alaska Independence Party leaders have also claimed that Sarah Palin was a member before she was elected mayor of Wasilla, which the McCain campaign has denied. Officially, records show that Palin was a registered Republican since 1982, six years before she married her husband Todd, British Petroleum supervisory employee, self-employed fisherman, and snowmobile mobile racer.

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      The Director of the Alaska Division of Elections has stated that Todd Palin, however, was a registered member of the Alaska Independence Party from 1995 to 2002. Todd Palin, all sources agree, has played a significant role as a policy adviser to his wife’s administration. There is significant disagreement about Sarah Palin’s attendance at Alaska Independence Party conventions before she became mayor of Wasilla. She did visit their convention after she became mayor, however, which the McCain workers try to downplay as a mere courtesy call. As governor, she sent a video tape to the most recent 2008 convention telling the delegates to “keep up the good work” and calling their convention “inspiring.”

      Keep up the good work of campaigning for a secession referendum from the US? While mainstream media has portrayed this party as “fringe” and extremist, it is the third leading party in Alaska (albeit a small one in a small state) and has the kind of history which has led to separatist wars in other places like Chechnya, where groups considered lunatic fringe, have taken advantage of economic and other crises to sow hatred and division and violence.

      It is also an extreme right-wing party whose leaders in recent years have broken from the Republicans because they see the Bush-Cheney Republicans as “too liberal.” Its present leaders have both praised Sarah Palin and denounced John McCain.

      Here is a little history on the Alaska Independence Party. The Party was founded by an ultra-rightist gold miner, Joe Vogler in the 1970s with an “anti-American” platform. Palin has denounced those abroad in oil rich countries who “hate America.” Joe Vogler hated America. He said in the 1970s, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I have no use for America or her damned institutions.”

      Later Vogler said that “the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred of the US government. And I won’t be buried under their damn flag….when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.” He said this in an oral history interview at the University of Alaska in 1991, at which time Bill Ayers had rejected his own past and had become respectable. Two years later Vogler disappeared. A criminal subsequently confessed to murdering him in a conflict over the sale of plastic explosives (which may suggest terrorism).

      The Alaska Independence Party, which today favors a referendum on whether Alaska should become an independent country, a commonwealth like Puerto Rico, a state (they have never recognized the legitimacy of Alaskan statehood), or go back to its old territorial status, still pushes an agenda to the right of the present Republican Party.

      In 1992, the party ran Howard Phillips for president. Phillips, a long-time ultra-right Republican from Massachusetts, had involved himself primarily in Cold War issues, particularly supporting terrorist guerrilla movements in Latin America and Africa. He was also a major organizational figure in bringing together secular and religious rightists in the 1970s, a founder of the ultra-right US Taxpayers Party (later the Constitution Party), and other extreme right-wing groups. He broke with the Republican Party in the 1970s from the far right.

      In 2004, the Alaska Independence Party endorsed a Phillips protegee Michael Peroutka for president on a “Christian heritage platform,” supporting an end to federal aid to education and opposition to most federal policies as a matter of principle.

      The Alaska Independence Party is currently supporting Reverend Charles Baldwin, a right-wing minister and protege of the late Jerry Fallwell. Baldwin broke with Fallwell and the Republicans in 2000, however, because he considered the Bush-Cheney ticket too far to the left. Baldwin has regularly attacked Bush from the far right, was Peroutka’s Vice Presidential running mate in 2004 and, according to press sources, believes in a wide variety of conspiracies (as do many Alaska Independence Party members) popular among militia groups concerning the “New World Order.”

      Right-wing militia groups at war with the US government spouting philosophies not unlike those of the Alaska Independence Party (which has so far not advocated an armed uprising against the US government) still exist. The Oklahoma City bombing is just one example of terrorism committed by far-right extremists similar in philosophy to the Alaska Independence Party.

      Todd Palin continued an official membership in the Alaska Independence Party until 2002, more than 30 years after the Weather Underground went out of existence and Barack Obama was a child. When Todd Palin was a member the Alaska Independence Party, Sarah Palin was the mother of his children. Sarah Palin, as Alaska’s governor, told the Alaska Independence Party to “keep up the good work” as they were about to nominate conspiracy buff Charles Baldwin for president.

      The Alaska Independence Party has a history which it has not repudiated and a commitment to policies that would be considered “anti-American” across the political spectrum, policies that have produced separatist wars in many parts of the world. Americans deserve to know if Sarah Palin still agrees with that party’s views, and even if she wants to be an American rather than an Alaskan citzen.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Web Master
      Web Master

      Hey Alan if Florida, it’n NOT about race but about character. There are plenty of black supporters for McCain Palin. I grew up in a black family, Barack is ill. Period. He is no Michael Steele, Alan Keyes, colin Powell ad infinitum, I would vote for any of those men. You Alan are the racist.

      http://www.GoMcCainPalin.com

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      Paul – I am very sorry, but you are dead wrong. The title of this post reads verbatim:

      “Racism Revealed At McCain/Palin Rallies”

      And where in that title does it state that the racist slurs came from McCain, or Palin? The title states that racism reared it’s ugly head at McCain and Palin events.

      It does not say Racist hecklers or anything of the sort.

      The purpose of a headline is inform readers of what the story is about.

      If someone were simply reading headlines – as many people do as they run through a paper or troll around the Web, this would leave the lasting impression that racism was “Revealed” at a McCain Palin rally.

      Don’t blame your incurious mind, or lack of interest in reading past a headline, on Andrew. If you’re so disinterested in continuing through a story past the headline, why bother reading at all? Just get your news from TV and be blissful in your ignorance.

      Racism itself has always been “revealed”…so what is being revealed at the McCain/Pallin rallies?

      That racism was present at said rally. Simple as that.

      Their support for it?

      Perhaps their silence on it, Berdie.

      One can only guess – but don’t insult anyone’s intelligence claiming this was an innocuous title or that it could not, in a similar amount of words, could have been clearer that the racism came from a bunch of bigots that have no connection to the candidates.

      And don’t assume that your intellectual laziness and refusal to read further is indicative of an intent to disseminate on a blogmaster’s part and is specific to all readers of Queerty.

      There is nothing new or courageous about questioning Americans.

      Of course not. Republicans have been doing it foe decades. Praise the state; damn the it’s citizenry.

      In fact, calling Americans a bunch of backward idiots is the easiest thing to do in today’s political discourse – especially in a blog that leans strongly to the left.

      Holding onto segregationist attitudes is not evidence of a backwards mind?

      I don’t see even an ounce of backbone in making a comment like that, Paul. It is said to a chorus of nodding heads.

      Not dissimilar to the nodding heads at the McCain and Palin rallies cited in this blog posting.

      Perhaps you think another poster on this board – Chuck – is a real profile in courage. After all, he was brave – and intellectual enough – to leave us with this little gem:

      I’m discussing what you wrote, not what Chuck wrote.

      So smart. So intellectual. So spot-on.

      Because as we know, it takes the intellect of Voltaire to accuse a presidential contender of being a terrorist by association.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Marvel
      Marvel

      This is great, you guys and gals. Very classy.

      We are all saddened by this show of dismal failure in our nation. It comes within the Katrina class of failures.

      The thing I don’t get is…Obama is white, too. He is more closely connected to white culture being raised by a white family. Why can’t whites accept him as one of their own? It reminds me of the tales of the horrors of slavery where white men had sons on the bodies of black women and turned around and sold those children into slavery.

      Americans of African ancestry have less in common with Obama. He is appealing because they, as well as others,are looking for a change from the arrogant, criminal, greedy, stingy, materialistic, bebauchery of the last eight years.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredo777
      fredo777

      I’m so glad Palin’s Alaskan Independence Party connection was brought up. That heifer had the audacity to try + make Obama seem like a terrorist because of a lukewarm association with an ex-terrorist who was active during his childhood when she + her husband were actively supporting the AIP fairly recently.

      The AIP whose founder had this to say:

      “The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”

      Hypocrite much?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 11:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Great! the ghetto patrol is back and from the looks of it this time they have brought a camel with them.

      Don’t be fooled people just a look at who’s making that false Independent party accusation and you know where this individual is coming from.
      Here’s the truth:

      http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2008/09/02/accusations-sarah-palin-was-member-alaska-independence-party-are-fa

      Talk about hypocrisy, when there’s actual documentation of Obama’s meetings with Ayers.
      Governor Palin has provided documentation now lets see Obama do the same about his birth certificate….hmm, thought so. There’s always a backstory with Obama.

      Un-American much?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MX3
      MX3

      Can we please stop feeding the trolls??? They puke up their spoonfed talking points and the bait gets taken. Just ignore them, leave them to feel the morasses that pass as their minds rotting away. Their intent is to incite and give themselves a forum, reacting to them only allows them to devolve into frenzy. They will end up eating each other alive, and I for one prefer to watch zombies eat each other in the movies, not real life.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Berdie
      Berdie

      Paul –

      It says racism was “REVEALED” at a McCAin/Palin rally. Since racism itself – and racists themselves – have ALWAYS been revealed – the only thing that COULD be “revealed” is McCain and Palin’s propensity for it. So, that’s a problem. If it said “Racist Hecklers invade McCain/Palin Rally” or something of the sort – the headline would be a whole lot more accurate in “inform(ing) readers of what the story is about.”

      As far as your obnoxious – and (this should not come as a surprise at this point) false accusation that I did not read past the headline, my point was that headlines often communicate to the many readers who don’t read past it. I, however, as is evidenced by my posts, DID read past it. So that’s another thing you’re wrong about it (but great job squeezing another jab at my “ignorance” in there – even if it’s on false premises).

      You made the comment that it was a matter of “backbone and integrity” for Andrew to bless America and “all its backward, idiotic denizens.” I don’t think it requires either backbone or integrity to spout call Americans a bunch of idiots. I stand by that comment. You’re welcome to think otherwise.

      Since when is McCain or Palin segregationists???? You see, Paul, this is what gets me. I am not voting for McCain, okay? I might or might not vote for Obama. But these irresponsible comments need to be called out. you honestly think if McCain is elected he’s goign to break out schools…African-Americans in one school, Caucasians in another? This is absurd…and if you hate McCain, so be it. But you don’t need to dive to the gutter to make your point.

      Your nodding heads point is useless. You believe that Republicans are by and large racist – go ahead. I think that is scurrilous and reduces the horrific nature of racism and downgrades the charge. But, feel free. Either way, it does not at all address my point…making a comment in an uncontested venue of nodding heads is not a demonstration of bravery.

      I made the point of calling out “Chuck” because he goes even farther in insulting “conservative nazis.” if you think it’s such a profile in courage to perpetuate the worst steretypes of everyday Americans, perhaps you’d think this was purple-heart worthy. My point remains.

      I did not make any point about being Obama being a terrorist. So that’s another assertion from you that is borne of your hatred of those who think differently than you rather than anything I wrote.

      Done, yet, Paul? Or do you want to go another round?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredo777
      fredo777

      Ha. Palin + her husband were very much affiliated with that anti-American group (her husband even serving as a member for nearly seven years).

      If you’re going to sling mud, Sarah, wear a raincoat.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      Web Master, if you like Alan Keyes, then what the hell are you doing on a gay website? After all, he’s the guy who threw his lesbian daughter out of the house when she came out and has not spoken to her since.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      No amount of Republican dirty tricks can save them this time. The Republicans are going to lose in a landslide, and then Obama get’s to politically pay the piper.

      The Republicans always get ugly in the last few weeks of the campaign and are expert at exploiting racism and homophobia because the Democrats give them so many openings by doing things like injecting racism in their own primaries and by gutting ENDA and similar moves.

      It’s a bipartisan thing.

      Nothing the Republicans do is any uglier than the blatant racism of the Clintons during the primary or the back stabbing we got from Barney Frank on ENDA to appease bigoted business owners.

      Racism can be cured by long sentences to work camps and massive doses of anti-psychotics…

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredo777
      fredo777

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

      Palin is welcoming us to the 2008 AIP Convention directly.

      Put a fork in her. She’s done.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      It says racism was “REVEALED” at a McCAin/Palin rally. Since racism itself – and racists themselves – have ALWAYS been revealed – the only thing that COULD be “revealed” is McCain and Palin’s propensity for it.

      Oh! I’m sorry, Berdie, I misunderstood. What you’re saying is, racism is expected at McCain/Palin rallies and you’re upset that Andrew was being redundant in reporting that racism was present at McCain and Palin events. So sorry.

      So, that’s a problem. If it said “Racist Hecklers invade McCain/Palin Rally” or something of the sort – the headline would be a whole lot more accurate in “inform(ing) readers of what the story is about.”

      Well, as I told, MEN-SAR, start your own blog if you’re not happy with Queerty’s content.

      McCain told us he was a maverick. Palin claimed she was going to change how things are done. Yet here they are ignoring the racism of their followers and fanning that racism further with their taunts and race-baiting. That is quite revealing and the blog post title was apropos.

      As far as your obnoxious – and (this should not come as a surprise at this point) false accusation that I did not read past the headline,

      You gave every indication that you did not read the post with your demands for clarification in the post title.

      …my point was that headlines often communicate to the many readers who don’t read past it.

      Not yourself, of course.

      I, however, as is evidenced by my posts, DID read past it.

      That’s mighty white of you.

      So that’s another thing you’re wrong about it (but great job squeezing another jab at my “ignorance” in there – even if it’s on false premises).

      If you don’t know who the dumb one is, Berdie…

      You made the comment that it was a matter of “backbone and integrity” for Andrew to bless America and “all its backward, idiotic denizens.”

      What? This is what I wrote:

      Andrew, like most libs, loves Americans, but has the backbone and integrity to question some of the foolishnesses he is seeing in American politics today.

      I don’t think it requires either backbone or integrity to spout call Americans a bunch of idiots. I stand by that comment. You’re welcome to think otherwise.

      He cares enough about Americans to be upset at where political discourse has gone in American politics.

      Since when is McCain or Palin segregationists????

      Since when did I state they were?

      You stated that M&P had nothing to do with the racist comments at their rallies and in actuality, the racism was the providence of the rally attendees. I pointed out that those attendees having segregationist attitudes make them backwards. Now, you are claiming that I stated that M&P are segregationists?

      You see, Paul, this is what gets me. I am not voting for McCain, okay?,

      I really don’t care.

      I might or might not vote for Obama.

      Again…

      But these irresponsible comments need to be called out. you honestly think if McCain is elected he’s goign to break out schools…African-Americans in one school, Caucasians in another?

      Where did I write this?

      This is absurd…and if you hate McCain, so be it. But you don’t need to dive to the gutter to make your point.

      If you want to pass over blog postings, fine. But at least have the courtesy to read comments in their entirety before making ridiculous remarks that have nothing to do with what I have written.

      Your nodding heads point is useless.

      Hey, I’m just riffing on what you wrote.

      You believe that Republicans are by and large racist – go ahead.

      You’re the one who’s acting all unimpressed that Andrew reported on racist sentiment at McCain and Palin rallies. I’m socked that such attitudes prevail at the rallies. Shocked!

      I think that is scurrilous and reduces the horrific nature of racism and downgrades the charge.

      You seem more concerned about words, than people, Berdie.

      But, feel free. Either way, it does not at all address my point…making a comment in an uncontested venue of nodding heads is not a demonstration of bravery.

      And being contrarian for the sake of contradiction isn’t either.

      I made the point of calling out “Chuck”…

      Again, I’m not discussing Chuck’s comment, Berdie.

      …because he goes even farther in insulting “conservative nazis.”

      You’re right; he’s wrong. Nazis were fascists.

      What with rounding up people of differing races and locking them up in camps; invading other countries; spying on their own citizens; accusing leaders of other parties of being enemy sympathizers; blaming the faltering economy on the actions of other countries, rather than government mismanagement; rallying angry groups into frothing, epithet throwing bigots. The Republicans have nothing in common with Nazis.

      …if you think it’s such a profile in courage to perpetuate the worst steretypes of everyday Americans, perhaps you’d think this was purple-heart worthy. My point remains.

      Everyday Americans? Are they anything like the Joe-six-packs I’ve heard tell of?

      I did not make any point about being Obama being a terrorist. So that’s another assertion from you that is borne of your hatred of those who think differently than you rather than anything I wrote.

      You wrote:

      “So smart. So intellectual. So spot-on…But why should details like that get in the way of a really good jab at conservatives (which I am most certainly not, by the way).

      And I pointed out that it does not take great mental effort to accuse another of being a terrorist–just like the conservatives you are defending have been doing.

      Done, yet, Paul? Or do you want to go another round?

      I’m smelling blood in the water and I’m RAVENOUS.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michael
      michael

      There is no doubt that Palin-McCain are biggots and desperate because now they are appealing to the lowest scum of American society, but then thats what they are so why wouldn’t they appeal to their family out there?

      In the next month, Americas fate will be sealed. Everything about the United States, financially, morally and spiritually is bankrupt. If America choses to continue the path it set forth by electing the Bush regime, within 4 years it will be completely collapsed. But that would be a good thing because a complete destruction would make way for a complete reconstruction. People generally do not change until it becomes to painful to keep going the way they have been. Germany had to be brought to its knees twice before it got it. Japan had to face nuclear holocaust before it realized that it was not going to be allowed to prosper in the evil mode it had chosen. I hope none of this is true, but this period in history has brought forth the truth about the U.S. The greed and unethical practices that its economy has built itself upon. The bigotry and hatred that has been masked, for some at least, by political correctness. Of course Gays never even got that much from mainstream society. We see gay people who post regularly on this sight who are completely lacking in compassion, racists and as hate filled as any right wing religious addict. Its difficult to remain optimistic during this time but we must until the election results are in. If we again elect the same evils that we have had then we all must prepare for a great time of tribulation. I hope we don’t have to take that path.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 1:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Trenton
      Trenton

      I’m smelling blood in the water and I’m RAVENOUS.

      *standing ovation*

      Oct 7, 2008 at 1:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Yeah, now go and enter the water with him.

      *standing ovation*

      Oct 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      There you have it the ultimate hypocrite # No. 50
      Wishing the destruction of America while he’s high and mighty enjoying the comforts of democracy and prosperity up in Canada.
      Why such an individual concerned with “America’s fate” is not in the US embracing the thugs he so loves? Instead of living the good life in Vancouver where there are virtually no blacks?
      The hypocrisy of an elite cunt, that’s the answer.
      While we the average American workers are the ones who make this Country run and progress into the great true Democracy it is and continue to seek its prosperity, assholes like Michael flee to Canada to trash a wish the destruction of the US by seeking the election of a man who’s associated with a terrorist who has bombed the Pentagon. Figures.
      If the stakes were not so high, haters like Michael could almost be considered as comic relief.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 2:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      Well one thing you are not, Churchlady, and that is a hypocrite. You talk like a racist piece of garbage, and it is completely consistent with your beliefs that you are racially superior. Now, don’t you have a bathroom somewhere to troll for dick before your wife gets home?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 2:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      @ #54: How is it that you’ve learned Arabic, but can’t tell the difference between “your” and “you’re”?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 2:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Berdie
      Berdie

      Paul –

      1) Yes…how insightful of you to figure out that I was saying racism is part and parcel of a McCain/Palin event! You’re either willfully ignorant or purposely playing dumb.

      2) I have the same right here to post as anyone else does. I have an opinion about an piece that was written on Queerty and I chose to voice it. Isn’t that what we all strive for? Open and free dialogue? Please tell me if you disagree.

      3) Even the worst of McCain and Palin’s detractors have not accused them of being racists or of “fanning the flames” of racism – save the most far left blogs like the Daily Kos. I would suggest you come up with some serious backup for this argument – not just one instance where they didn’t provide immediate notoriety to a racist heckler by responding to him/her. It’s a very serious charge – one that you have not come close to providing evidence for…that the McCain/Palin ticket, as a matter of routine/course/ideology, fan the flames and/or tolerate racism.

      4) The post says, “Racism Revealed at McCain/Palin Rallies”….it doesn’t say “Racist Hecklers” or anything that suggests the racism cane FROM someone else. It says it was revealed -as if it were a THEME of the event…which it most certainly was not. I am getting tired of explaining this to you.

      5) “That’s might white of you.” Mind explaning this offensive remark?

      6) You want to call me dumb – or insinuate that I am – feel free. I would couter that the plaground, name-calling tactics say far more about you than they do about me.

      7) I will try one more time to explain this: Andrew called America’s denizens (inhabitants) “backwards and idiotic.” I sarcastically noted that this might be a reason why people who read this blog find it anti-American. You called this quote out and said it was a matter of Andrew had the “backbone and integrity” to question the level of political discourse. It might behoove you to question what calling Americans backwards and idiotic itself does to the level of political discourse, but it is abundantly clear to me you don’t have the intellectual honesty to question someone on your own side or the courage to take an unpopoular position even if it squares with your principles.

      8) I accept that the following quote may have been about certain Americans, and not about McCain and Palin:

      “Holding onto segregationist attitudes is not evidence of a backwards mind?”

      For this misunderstanding, I take at least partial responsiblity. Given the context of this, you may have taken a moment to make it clear you do not see any tinge of this in the McCain/Palin ticket, only from a tiny minority of supporters who are bigots. On segregationist attitudes, we can agree. It’s worse than backwards – it true bigotry and racism at work. You won’t hear anything from me but support if you went after anyone who espoused those views.

      9) I have read the blog and its postings. Read #8….

      10) You may be “riffing on what (I) wrote” – but you did so in lieu of responding to the substance of the remark.

      11) Frankly, I am not surprised or impressed that there’s racist sentiment here and there, from a small group of people at any event. It’s disgusting but it’s real and I am not surprised about it. What I am surprised is that a respectable blog like Queerty chose to make it seem that racism was suddenly revealed at a McCain/Palin rally – a headline that implicitly sends the message that it is PART of the rally. It isn’t and it was irresponsible and it falls in line with a very strong bias on this site that I see. Perhaps you should spend time scrutinizing the source of the issue than attacking the whistleblower. I have immense respect for this site and I read it regularly. That does not make it above honest, legitimate, substantive criticism.

      12) I have no idea what backs up your claim that I care more about words than people. Frankly, it reads like a copy point…it certainly has nothing to do with anything I have written. Calling anything racism – or anything a show of support for racism – reduces the seriousness of the charge when it ACTUALLY IS racism. It makes it smaller. I am a Jew who has the same problem with people throwing around “anti-semite.” For if the most innocent of people can be deemed anti-semitic – then it lessens its significance when leveled at people who actually ARE anti-semites – like Louis Farrakhan for instance.

      13)I dont’ have time to take apart bit by bit on calling conservatives nazis. Suffice it to say that we are not “rounding up” people of different races and throwing them into camps. I am in New york -t here are millions of minorities here going about their daily lives. To attempt to – again- cheapen the accusation of Nazi to describe every counter terrorism measure you disagree with – is to a huge disservice to those who actually experienced Nazism.

      My point about Chuck – which you said you won’t address and then immediately do – was that his disgusting comments are anything but courageous. Where you find the link between this and me calling Barack Obama a terrorist is clearly in your own head…it has NOTHING to do with anything I have written and I challenge you to show me one place where I wrote anything even remotely suggesting Barack Obama is a terrorist.

      If you have any “backbone” or “integrity” – you’ll admit that you can’t.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ
      JJ

      This just all seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.

      Given the polls and the looming election day, it would take an unprecedented 21st century miracle from God for McCan’t to win in the electoral college. The Republicans cannot even steal this one its so far gone. Still, they still haven’t sunk as low as they’re going to, so save some outrage. At the end of the day, the majority have just had enough. Bush/McCan’t is out, Obama is in.

      God Bless America and its tolerant, inclusive people!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 2:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jon
      Jon

      I find it interesting that this took place in Clearwater…. isn’t that Scientology central? ….I’m just saying……

      Oct 7, 2008 at 3:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • suzifla
      suzifla

      If Palin had nothing to do with the comments from the crowd, why did she encourage them? Wouldn’t any decent person try to distance herself from bigotry and hatred, rather than inciting them?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 3:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • miley crisis
      miley crisis

      When the economy goes in the crapper–eh hem, Nazi Germany–the mob will look for a scapegoat…or scapegoats. Now that McPalin has established that if you are not white and straight you are a terrorist and do not like America, their ZEALOUS followers, um, talk about SHEEP, will light the torches and storm to cities.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 3:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • M Shane
      M Shane

      This site is perfectly indicative of the kind of spirit of fear, hatred, and ignorance which is promoted by the current Republican candidates, which I’m sure many party members are put to shame by.
      It is particularly corrupt that McCain/Palin would permit it to occur.
      Good journalism Andrew!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 3:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Journalism = “writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation “.

      I think Andrew’s cheerleading don’t qualify as “Good journalism” or “journalism” at all.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 5:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      You’re either willfully ignorant or purposely playing dumb.

      You’ve set the standard, Berdie.

      I have the same right here to post as anyone else does. I have an opinion about an piece that was written on Queerty and I chose to voice it. Isn’t that what we all strive for? Open and free dialogue? Please tell me if you disagree.

      Who’s saying you can’t post your opinion here? However what you are posting is not opinion, but rather, you’re editorializing. If you think you can better present political happenings then contact David and request an interview, or start your own blog.

      No one is curtailing your right to post. All I’m doing is challenging some of your foolish ideas, which is what really pisses you off. Just as you refuse to sit back and read what Andrew wrote and move on, I will not read what you wrote and move on.

      Even the worst of McCain and Palin’s detractors have not accused them of being racists or of “fanning the flames” of racism – save the most far left blogs like the Daily Kos.

      And the worst of Obama’s detractors have accused him of being anti-American; a terrorist sympathizer; a covert Islamofacist; and have claimed that he smokes crack while getting blow jobs from hustlers.

      I’m yet to see anyone in the McCain/Palin camp repudiate those comments and demand that their people refrain from such absurdity.

      I would suggest you come up with some serious backup for this argument – not just one instance where they didn’t provide immediate notoriety to a racist heckler by responding to him/her.

      Oh, I see. I should not only provide you with evidence, but it must conform to your strict guidelines as to what is acceptable evidence.

      It’s a very serious charge – one that you have not come close to providing evidence for…that the McCain/Palin ticket, as a matter of routine/course/ideology, fan the flames and/or tolerate racism.

      It’s apparent that anything I post here will not suit your preconceived notion of what evidence would be acceptable.

      The post says, “Racism Revealed at McCain/Palin Rallies”….it doesn’t say “Racist Hecklers” or anything that suggests the racism cane FROM someone else. It says it was revealed -as if it were a THEME of the event…which it most certainly was not. I am getting tired of explaining this to you.

      tr.v. re·vealed, re·veal·ing, re·veals

      1. To make known (something concealed or secret): revealed a confidence.
      2. To bring to view; show.

      Get it yet, sunshine?

      “That’s might white of you.” Mind explaning this offensive remark?

      Whatever do you mean, Berdie?

      You want to call me dumb – or insinuate that I am – feel free. I would couter that the plaground, name-calling tactics say far more about you than they do about me.

      You wrote in your first post here:

      Any you wonder why readers of this blog see bias and anti-Americanism?

      You accused Andrew of anti-Americanism. The same absurd slur levied at every person left of center, hurled by right wingers. Yet you have the mendacity to bitch and moan because I point out your ignorance?

      I will try one more time to explain this: Andrew called America’s denizens (inhabitants) “backwards and idiotic.”

      Andrew called the people using slurs and making threats at the McCain/Palin rallies backwards and idiotic.

      I sarcastically noted that this might be a reason why people who read this blog find it anti-American.

      You chastised Andrew for calling out the absurdity of certain segments of America, and promptly accused him of anti-Americanism. That was not sarcastic; that was bellicosity at its ugliest. Are you surprised that anyone reading that would take you for a homocon shill?

      You called this quote out and said it was a matter of Andrew had the “backbone and integrity” to question the level of political discourse. It might behoove you to question what calling Americans backwards and idiotic itself does to the level of political discourse,

      You have yet to admonish the people at those rallies who made threats against a presidential candidate, and used racist slurs towards news people.

      Andrew, however, had the backbone to call out the apparent racial bias taking place at those rallies. You defend it.

      but it is abundantly clear to me you don’t have the intellectual honesty to question someone on your own side or the courage to take an unpopoular position even if it squares with your principles.

      When I read something Andrew has written that I disagree with, I’ll note it.

      Given the context of this, you may have taken a moment to make it clear you do not see any tinge of this in the McCain/Palin ticket, only from a tiny minority of supporters who are bigots.

      Who says I don’t see racism from McCain? Especially after he says the following:

      McCain loved to tell jokes about lesbians, blacks, Hispanics and the Vietnamese community that occupied a large section of Arlington County, Virginia, just south of the District of Columbia.

      Of course, McCain didn’t use polite language in the jokes: He used names like “fags” or “queers” or “dykes” or “niggers” or “spics” or “wetbacks” or “gooks.”

      http://tinyurl.com/5fpjyp

      You may be “riffing on what (I) wrote” – but you did so in lieu of responding to the substance of the remark.

      Your remark had very little substance.

      Frankly, I am not surprised or impressed that there’s racist sentiment here and there, from a small group of people at any event. It’s disgusting but it’s real and I am not surprised about it.

      So what are you beefing about?

      What I am surprised is that a respectable blog like Queerty chose to make it seem that racism was suddenly revealed at a McCain/Palin rally – a headline that implicitly sends the message that it is PART of the rally.

      It was. People present at the rallies shouted death threats; made racist slurs and the candidates themselves made derogatory and accusatory claims about a man they know little about. This did not happen outside the rally, or away from the crowd; it happened during the rally within ear shot of Palin and McCain, who did nothing to stop it.

      It isn’t and it was irresponsible and it falls in line with a very strong bias on this site that I see.

      So what? When you travel over to Gay Patriot and chastise Bruce and Dan for being biased towards conservatives, then your argument will matter.

      Perhaps you should spend time scrutinizing the source of the issue than attacking the whistleblower.

      You didn’t exactly inform America that the tobacco industry knowingly sold a dangerous product, Berdie.

      I have immense respect for this site and I read it regularly. That does not make it above honest, legitimate, substantive criticism.

      No offense to Andrew, but this is Queerty, not News Week.

      I have no idea what backs up your claim that I care more about words than people.

      You’ve yet to denounce the racism in the M&P campaign. You seem more incensed about the title of a blog post, than the fact that a black camera operator was told to, “Sit down, boy,” by a Palin supporter.

      Calling anything racism – or anything a show of support for racism – reduces the seriousness of the charge when it ACTUALLY IS racism.

      And you don’t see racism in the above remark?

      It makes it smaller. I am a Jew who has the same problem with people throwing around “anti-semite.” For if the most innocent of people can be deemed anti-semitic – then it lessens its significance when leveled at people who actually ARE anti-semites – like Louis Farrakhan for instance.

      I would have chosen the more topical Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, but you seem to have a hard-on for blacks.

      I dont’ have time to take apart bit by bit on calling conservatives nazis. Suffice it to say that we are not “rounding up” people of different races and throwing them into camps.

      We? Does that mean you are a nazi, Berdie? Because it cannot possibly mean that you are a conservative, because you stated that you are not a conservative:

      But why should details like that get in the way of a really good jab at conservatives (which I am most certainly not, by the way).

      Oh my, a Jewish nazi. How delicious. Almost as delicious as a Jewish conservative posting on a gay blog–wait a minute. Are you even gay? ARE YOU EVEN JEWISH? It’s like the Bizarro would, here.

      I am in New york -t here are millions of minorities here going about their daily lives. To attempt to – again- cheapen the accusation of Nazi to describe every counter terrorism measure you disagree with – is to a huge disservice to those who actually experienced Nazism.

      Ah! Berdie loves him some Gitmo! What is it? The hoods? The male flesh pyramids? The forced sodomy? The torture?

      One would think that considering your history–or the history of your people–you would be loudest in condemning prison camps.

      Now, before you accuse me of being an enemy sympathizer, I have no love for Islamofacsts and their desire to wipe out everything western and free.

      However, when kids are locked up and brutalized, I get a bit annoyed when it is described as counter-terrorism.

      My point about Chuck

      Again, I’m not interested in debating what Chuck wrote.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • obamawins,obamawins
      obamawins,obamawins

      This is what extremist and hatemongers do best! And, trailing in the polls, McCrazy and whatshername will do nothing to discourage it! Pathetic!

      Oct 7, 2008 at 5:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Berdie
      Berdie

      Paul –

      This thread had to end at one point…but let me say this:

      You’re pathetic.

      In your latest post, you refer to me as “Jewish Nazi”, say I have a “hard-on for blacks”, ignore my repeated (as if it were needed) insistence that any racism is disgusting, avoid the topic of Chuck only when it suits you (you’ve responded before, chose not to respond when it might admit fault on your own), make assertions with little to no backup (and use the lame excuse that it has to fit into my “strict guidelines” when you in fact offer nothing), provide qualifications to a post that never existed (Andrew did NOT call out certain Americans…you must be more careful with your reading), and refuse to explain a highly offensive, baffling comment of “That’s might white of you.”

      This passes for serious discussion? An attempt to raise the discourse?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 5:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul Raposo
      Paul Raposo

      And I swim off, satiated, with a full belly and the remnants of Berdie floating slowly in my wake.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 5:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Why is Obama such a liar?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI7pUMbaINI

      No wonder hamas is supporting him:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvFj3-c93cg

      Terrorist just love him.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 6:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredo777
      fredo777

      Why are McPalin such liars + frauds?

      http://www.crooksandliars.com/john-amato/mccain-tied-us-council-world-freedom-na

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-DnNsoA5Y

      tinyurl.com/notamaverick

      Morons just love them.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 6:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      “I think Andrew’s cheerleading don’t qualify as “Good journalism” or “journalism” at all.”

      I think Churchlady’s comments don’t qualify as good English. Why do you hate the American language, you ignorant bigot?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 7:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      This is a tempest in a two party teapot.

      Both parties are infested with racists, homophobes and Wall Street hustlers.

      Both parties voted for the $700 billion dollar giveaway and both parties are extinct.

      And as you can tell from many of the comments above, they’re too stupid to know they’ve been mortally wounded. They still think they’re relevant.

      The republicans and racist scum like CHURCHILL-Y will find out November 4ht, and the homophobic Democrats as they inherit an unwinnable war and an economy in deep failure mode.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 7:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • richardmirwin
      richardmirwin

      Sarah’s the Terror.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 7:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jim
      Jim

      Jezus Kriste, this got all the girls worked up!

      Seriously tho, here’s my question: what was Palin’s response to all of this at her rally, and did the taunted media air the unflattering to Palin/McSame footage?

      Oct 7, 2008 at 7:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jane
      jane

      Do Seniors’ Deserve This?

      While the cost of living has quadrupled, the group of people most negatively affected group in the society is the seniors, who are on fixed income. And some of us who had managed to invest in stocks and lived on interest income during the boom years in the mid to late 1980s have just witnessed the major evaporation of our life saving. We not only lost the interest income but the principle as well. Surprisingly, it does not appear that the down slope of our standard of living would soon improve. On Sunday, I could not believe listening to statements by Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Sen. McCain’s senior policy adviser that if elected, Senator McCain intends to reduce medicare and medicaid spending to offset tax cuts pay for his proposed health plan. He further elaborated by saying that the savings would come from eliminating or reforming payment policies to lower the overall cost of care. He will also increase medicare premiums for the wealthier seniors. The more I think about I get very distressed that the ills of this generation are being pushed to its seniors and future generations. It is not fair.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 8:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • crazylove
      crazylove

      Thankfully several of the nastier Right wingers here will be consigned in less than 29 days to the dustbins of history. Enjoy your trip to oblivion along with all the other discredited nutjobs that came before you.

      Oct 7, 2008 at 10:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr C
      Mr C

      To all of you McInsane/Stalin Queens,

      BOTTOM LINE MATCH POINT!

      SARAH STALIN is a motherfucking robot who says the same thing from campaign stop to stop and by the way.

      And if you want to talk about character and etiquette. At these McInsane/Stalin rallies some of the nastiest things are screamed from the crowd.

      Such as “Treason”, “Kill him”,” Terrorist”,
      etc and neither one of them have denounced such statements. I wonder Why?????

      When Obama was in Nevada a White Vet got up and ranted off about McCain saying he was not the soldier he was made out to be not honorable and Obama politely told the Man not to say that and that Senator McCain was an honorable veteran.

      Goes to show you about character . John McCain has become DESPERATE and is losing steam so look for the RACE CARD very soon. But thankful a lot of Americans is over it.

      And to all you who are not on board stay on the McInsane/Stalin front lines we don’t personally give a fuck because supporters like MEN-SAR and Churchill-Y we already know their stand when it comes to us Blacks you can read the many racists post they have on here. All I can say about that is this. Only online because neither one of you don’t have the nerve for an in person ranting as such. So it’s a BLOW OFF!

      Obama supporters stay on focus and watch them go BESERK It’s going to be a lovely day!

      YES WE CAN AND WE WILL
      OBAMA/BIDEN ’08

      And if you want a person with experience to keep us at war and also BROKE in the pocket book and no economic experience and a woman who has no attributes of a politician only but to be a “Talking points” queen to tell white women I’m like you a soccer Mom and my husband is a union worker. When McCain does not support unions. How many of these soccer moms have have a net worth of 2,500,000.00 no one I know. So if you want folks who keeps America dying.

      Then you have McInsane/Stalin 08′

      You girls do have choices!

      Oct 8, 2008 at 1:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredo777
      fredo777

      I’m just tired of race being thrown into the whole…race in general. I’m voting for Obama because I think he + Biden are the best team + I have little to no confidence in McCain/Palin.

      I seriously would not vote for Obama if he were as conservative on certain issues as Palin or McCain but, unfortunately, there are those for whom race is a key (or the only) deciding factor in their candidate of choice. Sad but true.

      Oct 8, 2008 at 4:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      The election has been decided by african Americans, the media and all non-US citizens.
      Lets all march in a straight line and sing the new National anthem:

      We’re gonna spread Islamic rule
      We’re gonna spread Communism
      Obama’s gonna change it
      Obama’s gonna lead ‘em

      He’s gonna change it
      And rearrange it
      He’s gonna change the world.

      March on! People of all heroic nationalities!
      The great Barack Communist Party leads us in continuing the Long March ,
      Millions but with one heart toward a communist tomorrow,
      Underdeveloped and unprotected, disregard the USA in a careless fashion.
      March on, march on, march on!
      We will for generations,
      All forcefully expend our last cries.

      Raise high chairman Obama’s banner, march on!
      Raise high chairman Obama’s banner, march on!
      March on! March on! On!

      Oct 8, 2008 at 3:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherM
      ChristopherM

      Really? Because the last time I checked the people who vote decide things. And it looks like the people who vote, unlike the handful of morons like you, don’t give a flying fuck what color someone is. You are trash. Please do yourself a favor and go back to giving bathroom blowjobs while your wife is out.

      Oct 8, 2008 at 5:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr C
      Mr C

      WIFE???????

      This queen isn’t even 30 yrs old yet Chris. He talks all this shit about Blacks this, Blacks that.

      There is no new National Anthem Chuchill-Y unless your Mother wrote it.

      Oct 9, 2008 at 6:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Independent 08
      Independent 08

      If anyone is “racist” it’s Obama supporters. Calling McCain’s campaign racist ignores the fact that 98% of blacks are voting for Obama. If 98% of any one ethnic group votes for a candidate of there group, it’s racism.

      Oct 24, 2008 at 12:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredo777
      fredo777

      Independent, you’re full of shit.

      While I don’t deny that lots of black voters are voting for Obama, many of those same voters have also voted for exclusively white candidates in the past. Also, it should come as no shock that most black voters have chosen Obama over McCain, since most of us tend to vote Democratic.

      Oct 24, 2008 at 2:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bateman666
      Bateman666

      4th reich. November 4th 2008. Helter Skelter. SEEK AND DESTROY.

      Nov 3, 2008 at 7:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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