QUEERTY SELECTS — We’ve been regularly monitoring homophobia in hip-hop, going so far as to identify Hip Hop’s Homophobic Haters. And it’s why we love BET scribe Clay Clane’s interviews, since he regularly asks the music industry’s biggest talents about gay culture and homophobia. Clane’s latest Q&A is with rapper Xzibit, who says of homophobia in hip-hop: “It started as just common place; it was just part of the language. I think the overtones that it creates, is not what really exists. I don’t think if you are gay and you go to a hip-hop club that you’ll get beat up for being gay. That’s not what is going to happen. I think words are the way that people express themselves—just like if you say bitch on a rap record for a long time you can rally thousands of women that will say that’s incorrect. You can’t focus on one single thing or bad aspect of what happens in hip hop and try to blanket it. That’s not the root of the problem. It exists, I think it’s how you portray it, and it’s how you use it. You gotta paint with a broad brush when you talk about homophobia because it’s a lot of things that exist in hip hop that aren’t exactly right, but it’s part of the landscape.” [BET]
um, singling out hip hop?
can you show me a popular artist from another genre that has used epithets like “fag” in their music?
if you can find explicit homophobia in the lyrics of popular artists in other genres- let us see it!
@The Gay Numbers: that is just it!
bigotry hides in other media- most likely this is true.
it doesn’t hide in hiphop- it is normative and explicit.
of course there are exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions.
(oh in my previous post, I did not consider country, but that is because i don’t really consider it music- but I wouldn’t mind seeing examples of homophobia in that genre)
now also, if we can be fair
don’t call a band like motley crew or whatever(before my time) homophobic unless you can cite specifics lyrics, events, or actions that would be indicative of said homophobia.
If anyone wants me to google homophobic rap lyrics- hey I will- but I think we all know what the result would be.
@The Gay Numbers:
you say subtle homophobia can hurt worse- how subtle? how much worse?
frankly, i don’t care if jimbo or whoever hates fags with all his heart- as long as he has the sense to keep it to himself.
No one can eliminate homophobia or racism or sexism completely, the best we can do is make unacceptable to express openly in the public sphere.
@The Gay Numbers: you and i seem to be using different dictionaries.
denying someone a job because they are gay is not subtle. It is a direct observable action that has been legislated against and can be litigated.
With regards to country music- I’d like to see an article on homophobia within it- I doubt there is any subtly, that requires thought.
@Chitown Kev: of course i know that, i didn’t say it had been legislated against everywhere, my point was is it isn’t subtle homophobia, it is the opposite.
@The Gay Numbers:
Wait wait wait
I was defending country music???
a)I don’t consider it music(that ain’t complement honey)
b)I’d like to see an article about homophobia in country “music”(I wasn’t being sarcastic)
c)that country music isn’t know for it’s subtlety.
so what are you talking about?
to your point about difficult to prove- that is progress.
when it is easy to prove and acceptable, well that is just hard to take, no?
you can’t take on struggles for equality, marriage rights, employment rights- when you it is publicly acceptable and mainstream to use the most degrading epithets in popular culture.
No one will consider rights if they are ok with people burning metaphorical crosses on your lawn. You are approaching things backwards. First we must assert our humanity, our dignity, before we can hope at tackling larger fights and more “subtle” discrimination.
to summarize, “fags” get nowhere.
if you are going to be a full citizen- it has to start somewhere, we have to stop taking this shit, or no one will take us seriously.