Coffee house child rapist recruiter Scott Lively has done a pretty terrible job distancing himself from Uganda’s anti-gay culture, which he and other American evangelicals helped foster. But now that the climate of hate an intolerance he helped create has claimed the life of activist David Kato, how does Lively respond? With what he probably thought would at least sound conciliatory, but instead sounds wretched.
Here’s Lively’s full response to Kato’s murder, posted to the website of his group Defend The Family:
Ugandan homosexual activist David Cato was recently beaten to death with a hammer in his home. It was a terrible crime deserving of our strongest condemnation. I extend my sincere condolences to his family and friends.
My first comment on this matter was to caution the media not to rush to judge this as a hate crime since at that time no one had been arrested for the crime so the motive was purely a matter of conjecture. CNN was reporting that money and clothing had been stolen from his house, which suggested a run-of-the-mill criminal intent. I also suggested the possibility that he was killed by a “gay” lover, as was the case with another homosexual activist two weeks ago in New York. Carlos Castro was castrated with a corkscrew by his boyfriend and bled to death in his hotel room. See http://www.newser.com/story/109384/model-i-used-corkscrew-to-castrate-gay-journo.html
I caution the media against assuming Cato’s murder was a hate crime, Some homosexual activists and journalists rushed to judge another Ugandan gay murder as a hate crime in June 2010, only to sheepishly retract that claim when the murder turned out to be the work of pagan witch doctors involved in a bizarre occult ritual. See
http://www.ugpulse.com/articles/daily/news.asp?about=Police+suspends+activities+of+witchdoctors+&ID=14954 and http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/candacechellew-hodge/2930/hoax_underscores_urgency_for_lgbt_people_in_uganda/
It has since been reported by the New York Times that the local police do not believe this was a hate crime but a robbery. This has not deterred the Times, and the rest of the “mainstream” media from using this crime to advance the “gay” narrative that all disapproval of homosexuality leads invariably to violence and murder of homosexuals. This is propaganda, not journalism and it is a false premise. Society has the right and duty to discourage harmful conduct and lifestyles and for its citizens to to do so in a responsible fashion can never fairly be construed as incitement to hatred or violence. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/world/africa/28uganda.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=David%20Cato&st=cse
The Ugandan newspaper which “outed” the Ugandan homosexual activists under a banner saying “Hang Them,” clearly WAS an incitement to violence and I join the rest of the civilized world in condemning it. The Ugandan court was right in declaring it illegal.
The investigation of this case is not completed, and it might yet be shown that Cato death was a hate crime. If so, the Rolling Stone newspaper may bear some responsibility for its actual incitement to violence.
For liberals to reach further however to claim that responsible criticism of homosexuality, such as my 2009 seminars in Kampala, constitutes incitement to violence is unfair and opportunistic. It is not wrong to speak against homosexuality any more than it is wrong to speak against other behavioral disorders such as alcoholism and bulemia, or other sexual sins such as adultery and polygamy. Anyone who were to take such criticism as permission to hurt another person is simply crazy and you can’t silence all legitimate criticism of a social problem because some crazy person might misconstue it.
Floating conspiracy theories — that Kato was killed by a gay lover, a la Carlos Castro, which appears to be a murder at the hands of a not-gay lover — isn’t new to Lively. That’s what his entire mission in Uganda is based on: the idea that Western gays are going to come and convert Ugandan children and indoctrinate them into being our sex slaves, and other equally crazy theories. I wonder what actually goes on in this man’s head, whether he believes his own disinformation. Whether he actually believes Ugandan police, overseen by the state, which already has laws on the books criminalizing homosexuality, would certainly never cover up the possibility a gay activist was killed for his activism.
Lively lives in a world where gays can do no good, are only out to commit sins, and deserve to die. His position on Kato’s death may be hurtful to Kato’s friends and family, and gay Ugandans who looked to him as a hero. But Lively is a hate leader and a fear mongerer, the worst type of human being, and he does not have a seat at our table.
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randy
Lively is pathetic and sick. His response just proves it. That’s all that can be said.
justiceontherocks
I won’t be reading any further posts about this pedophile. He is irrelevant to the world, this country and my life.
dbillings
When do we start referring to him by the name he has so thoroughly earned?
Scott Deadly
Ogre Magi
I am sooooo sick of christians
Paul in Canada
@justiceontherocks: All Christian leaders should be pointing to Scott Deadly as an example of what Christianity is NOT!
David
What’s the address of his coffeeshop?
randy
What would be funny if it weren’t so sick is that he condemns the press for jumping to conclusions that are unsubstantiated, and then he jumps to a conclusion based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this might have been some sort of gay lover’s quarrel.
IOW, he does the very thing that he accuses others, and he does it only to smear gays and our relationships.
Taylor Siluwé
@randy:
Exactly Randy. His unsubstantiated claims are many – gays want to over-throw hetero society, gays recruit children, Nazi’s were a gay movement, etc etc.
Ironically, his propaganda is exactly what the Nazi’s did when they convinced Germans that the Jews (and gays) were coming for their children.
The man needs to be harassed everywhere he goes. If we can’t arrest him for inciting genocide with his lies and pseudo-science, then we can follow this monster around to let everyone know that his message is killing people.