What a slimebag! Watch Rev. Rick Warren try to say that he never said that gays and lesbians are like pedophiles and people commit incest.
Rick Warren’s video address (just like Obama!) this week to his church ought to be titled “The Saddleback School of Journalism”. In it, Warren says that ever since becoming an object of popular scrutiny he’s learned that journalists are all liars hellbent on destroying America through reporting. But he saves special ire for talk radio and bloggers, who he advises should ‘get a life’ and who he says simply like to ‘hurl all kinds of bombs at people.’
For the record, we’ve invited Rev. Warren to be interviewed by Queerty and have been told that he’s unavailable til after the holidays due to services and family health problems. We look forward to chatting with him soon.
Anyway, the rest of the video is a big ass-covering lie, which we’ll be happy to correct now while we sit in our parent’s house wearing pajamas:
Lie: “I have been accused of equating gay partnerships with incest and pedophilia. Of course, as members of Saddleback Church, you know I believe no such thing.”
How about we take this to the next level?
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Truth!
Rev. Warren: “I’m opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage, I’m opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I’m opposed to one guy having multiple wives and getting married.”
Beliefnet Editor Steve Waldman: “Do you think those are equivalent to gays getting married?”
Rev. Warren: “Oh, I do.” [Source]
Now, Warren responds to the Beliefnet interview by saying, that he didn’t mean to say that gay relationships are like incest and pedophilia, just that gay marriage is. “I was not saying those relationships are the same thing”, he says, adding that “I’m opposed to any redefinition of the definition of marriage.”
Well look, we know that this video is intended for your flock, but unless forced lobotomies are required to join the church, who is going to believe Warren’s pose of “Aw shucks, I was just mentioning some other sorts of redefinition of marriage I was against.”
How would you feel if we said that we don’t believe that groups like Nazi’s or serial rapists or members of the Saddleback Church should run the policy of our country? We’re not saying they’re the same! We’re just saying we don’t think they should run the country.
Give me a fucking break, Reverend. You write sermons for a living, so we’re going to assume you have at least a vague concept of how rhetoric works. Being a hate-filled homophobe is ignorant, but being a liar is just wrong. In no way did you not compare gays and lesbians to pedophilia and incest. Own it or apologize, but don’t insult our intelligence by weaseling out of it.
Mark
Of course he’ll lie to your face. His entire premise of a Hebrew tribal god that was angry before (see Torah) and now isn’t (see NT) is a huge fabrication.
Rick Warren can’t perform a real task in life. Thus, he had to resort to Bronze Age mythology as the basis of his existence. His aim is to perpetuate an entire set of 4000 year old stories, lies and myths for general consumption. And due to the way human brains work (see DSM-IV) he has an entire segment of the population well-subdued and subjugated.
Power and control. That’s his purpose and that’s his aim. It’s so transparent. It’s so obvious.
Rick, I see right thru your disguise. I live in the 21st century. You do not. You generate and regurgitate thought processes that predate the Renaissance by more than a millennium.
rickroberts
Barack has some big time ‘splaining to do and a lot to make up for this. We better fucking get universal healthcare, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and at least “civil unions†recognized by the federal government. Don’t want to call it a marriage? Fine. Call it what you will. I’ll call it marriage. It had just better offer exactly the same legal rights, privileges, and protections.
In the meantime, I’m researching to find the most secular country on the planet so that I can move. I only have one life. I don’t want to waste anymore of it living and fighting in a country run by the fucking christian taliban.
Grant
I went to pray away the gay classes at Saddleback when I was in seminary and working at another OC megachurch. I’m commenting on this blog now, so clearly everything came out alright…
concretepinata
As though nobody noticed he scrubbed all the really anti gay vitriol off his website. Fucking scumbag.
Michael W.
@rickroberts: “We better fucking get universal healthcare, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and at least “civil unions†recognized by the federal government.”
Lol. Yes, Obama better implement these things now that he’s made the gays angry!
Nevermind the fact that he promised to do all of that from day one and folks like me are still focused on those larger, more important goals regardless who he chooses to give some stupid invocation.
merlin
Ric Warner is a slanderous religiousity, and as we can now note Obama doesn’t listen very well to those he choses to lead for him…….. cause this type of religious slander does not a dialogue make.
Jeff
I used to attend Saddleback Church until I went to their Class 101 and was told that you could not be a member if you are homosexual unless you repent and get baptized again. In another video to his flock today he says that he does not believe in discriminating against anyone, but he clearly doesn’t walk his talk.
Raphael
@concretepinata:
Did you see Mike Rogers on Hardball? He claimed this as a victory, that we are forcing Saddleback to retract some of their most egregious homophobia.
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8771
Of course, this is spin that presumes the web-site scrubbing was made out of a genuine desire for change, not damage-control.
But it’s spin I like!
Celia the lurker
Pastor Warren will have to repent his lying. It’s right there in the Ten Commandments – “Thou shalt not bear false witness”. Does he think those somehow don’t matter any more? I would swear, some of these people literally think that the suppression of homosexuality is the total point of Christianity.
sal
i hope if Obama,or the dems push for legislation for gay rights my “pal” Rick Warren will b backing it whole heartily,right??casue hes OBVIOUSLY misunderstood.lol
ruggles
To me, Rick Warren has a lot in common with Ted Haggard, and he’s almost as good as hiding it.
Charles J. Mueller
Rick Warren a liar???
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Tell me it isn’t so.
Dave Farber
Can someone explain to me why the term marriage is essential here? If he is for giving homosexuals civil union rights that equate to marriage then why is that such a bad thing?
If laws are passed that mandate the same respect for civil unions that are afforded to marriages (read: health insurance, federal tax benefits, etc.) than why would it matter if two consenting males enter into a civil union rather than marriage?
Can we get Rick Warren behind a drive to mandate civil unions along these lines on a federal level? It seems like something he fully supports.