Comments on: Rick Warren Will Lie Right to Your Face http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:08:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dave Farber http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-108177 Dave Farber Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:36:49 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-108177 Can someone explain to me why the term marriage is essential here? If he is for giving homosexuals civil union rights that equate to marriage then why is that such a bad thing? If laws are passed that mandate the same respect for civil unions that are afforded to marriages (read: health insurance, federal tax benefits, etc.) than why would it matter if two consenting males enter into a civil union rather than marriage? Can we get Rick Warren behind a drive to mandate civil unions along these lines on a federal level? It seems like something he fully supports. Can someone explain to me why the term marriage is essential here? If he is for giving homosexuals civil union rights that equate to marriage then why is that such a bad thing?

If laws are passed that mandate the same respect for civil unions that are afforded to marriages (read: health insurance, federal tax benefits, etc.) than why would it matter if two consenting males enter into a civil union rather than marriage?

Can we get Rick Warren behind a drive to mandate civil unions along these lines on a federal level? It seems like something he fully supports.

]]> By: Charles J. Mueller http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-108122 Charles J. Mueller Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:12:58 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-108122 Rick Warren a liar??? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Tell me it isn't so. Rick Warren a liar???

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Tell me it isn’t so.

]]> By: ruggles http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-108017 ruggles Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:29:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-108017 To me, Rick Warren has a lot in common with Ted Haggard, and he's almost as good as hiding it. To me, Rick Warren has a lot in common with Ted Haggard, and he’s almost as good as hiding it.

]]> By: sal http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-108015 sal Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:22:08 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-108015 i hope if Obama,or the dems push for legislation for gay rights my "pal" Rick Warren will b backing it whole heartily,right??casue hes OBVIOUSLY misunderstood.lol i hope if Obama,or the dems push for legislation for gay rights my “pal” Rick Warren will b backing it whole heartily,right??casue hes OBVIOUSLY misunderstood.lol

]]> By: Celia the lurker http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-108007 Celia the lurker Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:51:44 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-108007 Pastor Warren will have to repent his lying. It's right there in the Ten Commandments - "Thou shalt not bear false witness". Does he think those somehow don't matter any more? I would swear, some of these people literally think that the suppression of homosexuality is the total point of Christianity. Pastor Warren will have to repent his lying. It’s right there in the Ten Commandments – “Thou shalt not bear false witness”. Does he think those somehow don’t matter any more? I would swear, some of these people literally think that the suppression of homosexuality is the total point of Christianity.

]]> By: Raphael http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107989 Raphael Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:07:19 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107989 @<a href="#comment-107928" rel="nofollow">concretepinata</a>: Did you see Mike Rogers on Hardball? He claimed this as a victory, that we are forcing Saddleback to retract some of their most egregious homophobia. http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8771 Of course, this is spin that presumes the web-site scrubbing was made out of a genuine desire for change, not damage-control. But it's spin I like! @concretepinata:

Did you see Mike Rogers on Hardball? He claimed this as a victory, that we are forcing Saddleback to retract some of their most egregious homophobia.

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/.....aryId=8771

Of course, this is spin that presumes the web-site scrubbing was made out of a genuine desire for change, not damage-control.

But it’s spin I like!

]]> By: Jeff http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107981 Jeff Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:49:07 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107981 I used to attend Saddleback Church until I went to their Class 101 and was told that you could not be a member if you are homosexual unless you repent and get baptized again. In another video to his flock today he says that he does not believe in discriminating against anyone, but he clearly doesn't walk his talk. I used to attend Saddleback Church until I went to their Class 101 and was told that you could not be a member if you are homosexual unless you repent and get baptized again. In another video to his flock today he says that he does not believe in discriminating against anyone, but he clearly doesn’t walk his talk.

]]> By: merlin http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107959 merlin Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:47:07 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107959 Ric Warner is a slanderous religiousity, and as we can now note Obama doesn't listen very well to those he choses to lead for him........ cause this type of religious slander does not a dialogue make. Ric Warner is a slanderous religiousity, and as we can now note Obama doesn’t listen very well to those he choses to lead for him…….. cause this type of religious slander does not a dialogue make.

]]> By: Michael W. http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107942 Michael W. Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:08:14 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107942 @<a href="#comment-107919" rel="nofollow">rickroberts</a>: "We better fucking get universal healthcare, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and at least “civil unions” recognized by the federal government." Lol. Yes, Obama better implement these things now that he's made the gays angry! Nevermind the fact that he promised to do all of that from day one and folks like me are still focused on those larger, more important goals regardless who he chooses to give some stupid invocation. @rickroberts: “We better fucking get universal healthcare, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and at least “civil unions” recognized by the federal government.”

Lol. Yes, Obama better implement these things now that he’s made the gays angry!

Nevermind the fact that he promised to do all of that from day one and folks like me are still focused on those larger, more important goals regardless who he chooses to give some stupid invocation.

]]> By: concretepinata http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107928 concretepinata Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:21:58 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107928 As though nobody noticed he scrubbed all the really anti gay vitriol off his website. Fucking scumbag. As though nobody noticed he scrubbed all the really anti gay vitriol off his website. Fucking scumbag.

]]> By: Grant http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107924 Grant Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:16:54 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107924 I went to pray away the gay classes at Saddleback when I was in seminary and working at another OC megachurch. I'm commenting on this blog now, so clearly everything came out alright... I went to pray away the gay classes at Saddleback when I was in seminary and working at another OC megachurch. I’m commenting on this blog now, so clearly everything came out alright…

]]> By: rickroberts http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107919 rickroberts Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:13:27 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107919 Barack has some big time ‘splaining to do and a lot to make up for this. We better fucking get universal healthcare, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and at least “civil unions” recognized by the federal government. Don’t want to call it a marriage? Fine. Call it what you will. I’ll call it marriage. It had just better offer exactly the same legal rights, privileges, and protections. In the meantime, I’m researching to find the most secular country on the planet so that I can move. I only have one life. I don’t want to waste anymore of it living and fighting in a country run by the fucking christian taliban. Barack has some big time ‘splaining to do and a lot to make up for this. We better fucking get universal healthcare, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and at least “civil unions” recognized by the federal government. Don’t want to call it a marriage? Fine. Call it what you will. I’ll call it marriage. It had just better offer exactly the same legal rights, privileges, and protections.

In the meantime, I’m researching to find the most secular country on the planet so that I can move. I only have one life. I don’t want to waste anymore of it living and fighting in a country run by the fucking christian taliban.

]]> By: Mark http://www.queerty.com/rick-warren-will-lie-right-to-your-face-20081223/#comment-107908 Mark Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:45:17 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=36017#comment-107908 Of course he'll lie to your face. His entire premise of a Hebrew tribal god that was angry before (see Torah) and now isn't (see NT) is a huge fabrication. Rick Warren can't perform a real task in life. Thus, he had to resort to Bronze Age mythology as the basis of his existence. His aim is to perpetuate an entire set of 4000 year old stories, lies and myths for general consumption. And due to the way human brains work (see DSM-IV) he has an entire segment of the population well-subdued and subjugated. Power and control. That's his purpose and that's his aim. It's so transparent. It's so obvious. Rick, I see right thru your disguise. I live in the 21st century. You do not. You generate and regurgitate thought processes that predate the Renaissance by more than a millennium. Of course he’ll lie to your face. His entire premise of a Hebrew tribal god that was angry before (see Torah) and now isn’t (see NT) is a huge fabrication.

Rick Warren can’t perform a real task in life. Thus, he had to resort to Bronze Age mythology as the basis of his existence. His aim is to perpetuate an entire set of 4000 year old stories, lies and myths for general consumption. And due to the way human brains work (see DSM-IV) he has an entire segment of the population well-subdued and subjugated.

Power and control. That’s his purpose and that’s his aim. It’s so transparent. It’s so obvious.

Rick, I see right thru your disguise. I live in the 21st century. You do not. You generate and regurgitate thought processes that predate the Renaissance by more than a millennium.

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