A new group of Boy Scout members has formed to encourage the organization to keep its current ban on openly gay scouts and leaders. But Eagle Scout John Stemberger, the founder of OnMyHonor.net, says there are already queers in scouting, and his group is perfectly fine with it.
“They are discreet, they are appropriate, they are private, and they don’t act out in front of kids,” he told Fox News. “What they want is full-blown gay activism in scouting—and that’s what they can’t have under the current policy.”
In a press release, Stemberger writes:
“We support the current policy of Scouting, which is backed by over 100 years of tradition and allows anyone to participate irrespective of sexual orientation, only disallowing the open and aggressive promotion of homosexuality and political agendas.
So keep those limp wrists and swishy hips in check, fellas, and the problem will solve itself!
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Stemberger says lifting the ban would devastate the Boy Scouts, which he calls “one of the great jewels of American culture.”
Um, does he know scouting actually started in Great Britain?
“It would be an enormous mistake if they allowed homosexuality in scouting,” he predicted. “They have no idea what these folks really want to do.”
Many, like Stemberger, who oppose lifting the ban are framing the debate as if its outsiders demanding change. Former U.S. Rep. Dick Schulze recently opined that it was sending a terrible message to young people to “[cave] to peer pressure from Hollywood and political activists.”
Stemberger himself suggested the BSA listen to parents “rather than Madonna and Bill Gates.”
Of course that negates the fact that thousands of Boy Scouts members, parents and alumni are standing up and demanding the ban be lifted. People like Zach Wahls, Jennifer Tyrrell, Ryan Andresen Greg Lattera, and many more.
The call is coming from inside the house, Mr. Stemberger.
Photos: OnMyHonor.net’s Facebook page
BJ McFrisky
All he’s saying is he doesn’t want a bunch of screaming queens to come in and douse the troop in glitter. He’s saying that being homosexual is OK, as long as you’re discreet about it, and doesn’t that apply to straight scout leaders as well? He’s saying someone who happens to be gay is fine, but someone whose sole identity and social arena revolves around their sexuality is inappropriate for children, and I agree. I wouldn’t want any kid exposed to the notions of a wife-swapper, or a bondage maven, or a porn addict, or anyone else whose identity is sex-based. This isn’t homophobia, folks, it’s common sense.
2eo
You’re black, but you know your place, get back in that cotton field and we’ll pretend to treat you as human.
Not surprised BJ is protecting paedophiles yet again at the expense of our community. He hates our community and loves child molesters.
Cam
@BJ McFrisky:
Isn’t it funny that BJ, the first person to defend all of the anti-gay republicans was immediately on here hysterically defending these guys?
He isn’t saying that “Normal” gays are fine. He is saying, go back in the closet and pretend you aren’t here.
Exactly the way the Mormons, Catholics, Muslims, etc… have wanted gays for hundreds of years.
Lastly, your comparing somebody finding out that somebody is gay to finding out about wife-swaping, bondage, or porn shows a really high level of self hatred.
RSun
@2eo: @Cam: No surprise at all!
Fael
Here in Brazil the situation is quite different, it seems to have a lot more gays than straights in Scouts
DarkZephyr
@Cam: He isn’t “self-hating” because he ISN’T a homosexual. He is a ringer. In actuality he is a homophobic heterosexual. I have seen someone with his style of writing elsewhere as well calling himself “Packer McFudgie”. I think it was Huffington Post. This man is a bigoted homophobe, nothing more.
Taurox
I am sure I will probably get flamed for this. BUT… I kinda agree with some parts of what was said.
I am gay and I was a boy scout. I don’t think however at the time I would have been comfortable sleeping in the same tent as an “Out” homosexual. I don’t even recall any sexual conversations in boy scouts, or anyone’s sexuality ever really coming up. It was more about bonding together and learning first aid and survival skills and other such stuff. Then again maybe kids nowadays are used to it at school maybe and might have no problems with it. Just thinking back on my experience it probably would not have turned out to be a great experience for the “Out” kid.
Cam
@Taurox: said…
“I am sure I will probably get flamed for this. BUT… I kinda agree with some parts of what was said.
I am gay and I was a boy scout. I don’t think however at the time I would have been comfortable sleeping in the same tent as an “Out” homosexual.
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Of course you wouldn’t have. Nobody is more uncomfortable around gays then people who are not yet out of the closet. That isn’t a dig, that is truthful. And I totally get where your opinion is coming from.
But if I can sort of extend out that reasoning…….We don’t mind if anybody Asian is in the scouts…..as long as we don’t know that they are Asian and they don’t talk about anything Asiany.
The problem we LGBT’s have a lot of times is that many are still used to thinking of themselves as not quite right and therefore excuse some discrimination, doing the old HRC thing of apologizing for who they are and who they love. When you sub out any other group for gays it is obvious how wrong it is.
Cam
@DarkZephyr:
Frankly it makes sense. Although there have been some other posts where that didn’t seem to be the case, but they could have been strategic.
2eo
@DarkZephyr: Hello Dark, it isn’t surprising in the least. The same group run a series of RSS feed from gay sites containing keywords, BJ isn’t actually the same person posting every time, the IP address blocks don’t match every time, but they’re nearly always one person who lives in the Carolina’s.
Funnily enough BJ goes quiet every time I mention his onnections with paedophilia and paedophiles, on the old IRC channel his friends and himself ran, they were busted a few years back for exchanging child pornography, and the person who posts usually as BJ donated a considerable sum to protect his paedophile friends in court. He’s also being connected to distribution of images.
I did used to believe Avenger was also a member, but checking more closely reveals he’s just a lone nutter, live in California too surprisingly. I thought it may have being David Mabus.
Alan down in Florida
One – I doubt that a “glitter” queen would be interested in scouting (might be a wrong assumption but it is mine).
Two – I don’t understand the logic. It’s not the out and proud gays who are the risk. It’s the closet cases that no one suspects who you have to worry about acting out on their fantasies and predilections.
Dionte
I could care less about this organization, I learned more about being a good person from Teddy Ruxpin.
MuscleModelBlog.com
As long as they are “discreet”? And by the way, I checked out OnMyHonor.net…it has a list of all the horrible things that will happen if the ban is lifted. Sorry, but the world will not end just because there is equality.
RSun
@Cam: The problem we LGBT’s have a lot of times is that many are still used to thinking of themselves as not quite right and therefore excuse some discrimination, doing the old HRC thing of apologizing for who they are and who they love.
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I TOTALLY did that when I was first coming out. I look back know and wonder who that person was.
ait10101
It wouldn’t be an issue if the Scouts didn’t make it an issue. It’s sort of like DADT, really. We’ll accept you, but not if you bring to our attention what we are accepting. That is nuts!
DOFEK
The boy Scout, are now breeding fucking Christian children! stop them before it come to late. AdamHomo
Little-Kiwi
of course BJ sides with the ignorant bigots. they’re just like his parents. BJ isn’t allowed to date, or have a boyfriend, ever, or ever mention being gay. because he’s a coward and his parents are pieces of s**t. 😀