A Texas jury is currently deliberating over a case involving a 38-year-old man who has been accused of having an improper relationship with a high school senior.
Christopher Lee Sutton (pictured) is on trial for hooking up with the student who he met while working as a security guard at The Woodlands High School in Montgomery County, TX.
Sutton is charged with five counts of second-degree felony improper relationship with a student. Each charge carries a penalty of two to 20 years in prison with a maximum fine of $10,000.
According to the prosecution, Sutton first reached out to the teen on a gay dating website in August 2012. They met two days later when the student contacted him asking for a ride home from a church function after his original ride fell through. During the drive they talked about hooking up, and eventually Sutton drove to a wooded area where they had both oral and anal sex.
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Prosecutors claim there were at least five other sexual encounters between August 2012 and February 2013. They say Sutton used his authority over the teen to coerce him into having sex with him.
In February 2013, Sutton resigned from his job after the student’s then boyfriend, Brian Joseph Ortiz, threatened to expose Sutton to the media. The only problem? 25-year-old Ortiz worked as a referee and oversaw many athletic events at the high school. He was essentially committing the same crime as Sutton. As a result he, too, has been charged with having an improper relationship with the student.
Tisk, tisk.
Jurors spent six hours considering after the trail’s closing arguments. Deliberation will resume today.
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vive
“…felony improper relationship with a student. Each charge carries a penalty of two to 20 years in prison.”
What? They seem to be just making up these “crimes” now to suit whatever animus Texans may have against anything out of the ordinary. As if the prisons weren’t full enough already of people who shouldn’t be there.
Teeth
Was the teen a 14 year old or an 18 year old? Cuz it makes a difference.
lykeitiz
@Teeth: Exactly! And Lolita seemed to be working her way through the faculty!
J. B.
@Teeth:
“…been accused of having an improper relationship with a high school senior.” So at least 17. This kind of crap pisses me off. This “boy” knew what he was doing especially if he was hooking up with other older men.
But this is Texas and they did pass a law in 2003 banning ALL student-teacher relationships despite the fact that the bill’s author excluded 18yr olds. So if this kid was 17 then they broke Texas law. I may not agree with it but it is what it is.
DarkZephyr
He was a senior, so he was probably at least 17. And I am reasonably sure that he *was indeed* at least 17 because the age of consent in Texas is 17. Why else are they using the “person in authority” charge? If he was 16 or younger, they could get the teacher for child rape. The student may have even been 18 because IF you are a student, even if you are legally an adult they can still get the person who had sex with you with the “person in authority” or “improper relationship with a student” charge.
DarkZephyr
@J. B.: I think the possible penalty that they are facing is over the top, personally. Still I agree with you to an extent because the teacher had to have known better. The boyfriend however was probably taken by surprise, not realizing that his job also counted as “in authority”. Otherwise he probably wouldn’t have turned the teacher in, in the first place. As for the student himself, seriously what a dick.
J. B.
I agree the penalties are too high at least in this case. All parties involved knew what they were doing. In my opinion there is no doubt this young man knew was he was doing, willfully went along if not initiated the encounters himself. I’m not saying it was morally right or wrong but these should be handled one a case by case scenario. In fact, there was a female teacher in Texas who slept with a male student who was 18 and the jury didn’t indicate her even though the same law that these men are being charged under was on the books.
Raphael
This student is not a helpless child, he was not raped, he is old enough to consent and, apparently, acting like a whore, hooking up with several guys… Those men don’t deserve to spend 20 years in jail, a more appropriate punishment would be a few months of community service.
Palmer Scott
Guys, please read more carefully.
He’s a SECURITY GUARD, not a teacher!
J. B.
Doesn’t matter if he was a teacher, security guard or janitor. He was still hired by their school district which makes him an employee of the school he worked at. Otherwise there is no way they could charge Sutton “with five counts of second-degree felony improper relationship WITH A STUDENT.” Nor would they be able to charge the young man’s boyfriend Ortiz who “worked as a referee and oversaw many athletic events at the high school.”
Roan
These pedophiles need to leave these kids alone.
Dxley
That boy is trouble.
J. B.
@Palmer Scott:
Turns out he was convicted on all five charges and awaits sentencing. So the jury must have bought the prosecution’s argument that he was in fact an employee of the school. Case closed.
J. B.
@Roan:
You should probably know the definition of Pedophilia before you comment.
Roan
@J. B.:
Go call Oprah. Maybe she cares.
J. B.
@Roan:
*Yawn* Try harder. Next?
Roan
@Raphael:
You’re probably a pedophile too.
Roan
The only ones defending these men are those of you that prey on the barely legal and see nothing wrong with it. Obviously, you can’t find suitable partners close to your own age o you pray on children who are more easily coerced. Don’t like what I have to say? Tough. You’ll get over it.
Stache99
@J. B.: The term is Ephebophile. An attraction to teenagers. Never liked that term though. Pedophile has such a nice ring to it.
J. B.
@Stache99:
Try again as that’s a reductive definition of the term. Ephebophilia is not considered a pathology and is also not a psychiatric disorder like Pedophlia. Why? Because an 18 year old who has sex with his or her 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend is by definition an Ephebophiliac. However, this is a more socially acceptable form of Ephebophilia.
JJ24
@Roan: 17 is not a child, and more then capable of knowing what he wants. Don’t equate someone who has consensual sex with someone who may not be age appropriate with a child molester.
Roan
@JJ24:
Not buying your defense for diddling the barely legal. Go sell crazy somewhere else.
J. B.
@Roan:
The young man was 17 which is not “barely legal”. Texas state law defines age of consent as 17 which means the young man WAS legal. What you choose to ignore is that the prosecutor couldn’t charge him with having sex with an underage minor, because he didn’t. So they used the student-school employee improper relationship law they passed in 2003 to arrest and charge him with. That is what got him convicted. Maybe read more about the case outside of Queerty.
JJ24
@Roan: So at 17 you didn’t know what you wanted?
Tobi
@Stache99: Try “Pederasty” 😉
Billy Budd
When I taught Operations Management classes for undergraduates in the US, many students literally took my breath away because they were SO beautiful and adorable. But I never took advantage or made a pass. One has to restrain oneself.
Billy Budd
Roan is Nuts.
Matt G
America is developing such a screwed up attitude towards sex… it is getting to the point where sex is a legal act first, then a power struggle, followed by anything like romance or connection or anything like that.
inbama
@Roan: Calling people pedophiles with no proof is a despicable DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER. You should not be posting on a gay website.
Hopefully QUEERTY SEES THIS and banishes you.
james_in_cambridge
Here’s the Ortiz guy. He looks brainless and considering the fact the didn’t know he was committing the same crime as the other guy, he probably is.
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/yourhoustonnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/1c/41c34ebe-40b4-5fd4-9055-9eef200f11ee/51b949a372d62.image.jpg?resize=300%2C306
Aries3dc
Wow. Can you imagine? HS senior getting porked in the woods by the school security guard! This queen is living the life I wish I had.
Stache99
@Aries3dc: Wow is right. That security guard is just living the dream life. Lol
DarkZephyr
Do we know for a fact that he was only 17? He was a senior in high school after all. I keep thinking he was 18.
That being said, I am not celebrating the fact that these men slept with a student by thinking that the 20 years per charge is over the top. I don’t approve of age of consent laws that are under 18, personally. But 20 years per charge for someone who in any other circumstance would be legal in the state of Texas just seems like overkill to me. Especially if he was 18 at the time.
DarkZephyr
“They say Sutton used his authority over the teen to coerce him into having sex with him.”
This part here is what gets me. They met on a *dating site* and not at school. Did they have sex AT the school? If their sexual encounters occurred off campus while he was not working under his capacity as a security guard, how can they say that he “used his authority” to “coerce” the student into having sex with him? This just seems like a witch hunt to me. He was *already* looking for sex *before* he hooked up with the security guard.
If the student was only 17 then both men are creepers in my opinion, but no article that I have read about this incident describes him as a minor.
Tobi
@DarkZephyr: aw, glad we’ve got you to police global values. I can sleep easy now. 😉
J. B.
@DarkZephyr:
He had to have been at the very least 17 or they would have been able to charge him with sexual abuse of minor. That is why they had to charge him with five counts of second-degree felony improper relationship with a student. If you Google the case you’ll see that his defense argued some of the same points you’re making. Why is he considered an educator? They basically used a legal loophole from a law passed in 2003. Yet when this happened between a female teacher and a male student a Texas jury refused to indict her because the male student was at the age of consent. Funny how different standards apply when it’s a same sex situation.
throwslikeagirl
Nobody wins. It’s disgusting. The kid was of age, but both boyfriend and security guard knew, or should have known, the rules. Rules are rules. This was a misuse of their positions at the school, as persons of some authority over the students. A good attorney could argue for lesser sentencing. Frankly, the kid should have known the rules, too. If nothing else, he’s guilty of wanton disregard of others. All the way around, this sucks.
Billy Budd
@throwslikeagirl: Exactly. Rules are rules. That is why I don’t fuck my students. They are a temptation, but I will never cross the line. Even knowing that here in Brazil I would never go to jail for fucking a graduate student, for example.
thefrogger
This case is crazy! It basically shows how useless most of these “protect our kids” laws are. On other sites, it was reported that the teens 25 yr old boyfriend found text messages from the 38 yr old. The 25 yr old then told the teens mother, and they alerted police. So many questions?! Obviously the mother knew of and was ok w/ the teens relationship w/ Ortiz, but not w/a 38 yr old? Also was Ortiz just jealous the teen was seeing someone else? And between the mom, teen, n boyfriend no one had enough sense to stop n think, “oh! Ortiz works at your school too!” Thus making their concern hypocritical. I also wonder if Sutton was gettin clingy n the teen wanted a way out?
catsura
Prosecutors claim there were at least five other sexual encounters between August 2012 and February 2013. They say Sutton used his authority over the teen to coerce him into having sex with him.
What a load of crap. How is it that he was coerced into having sex with the security guard, when he was most likely already having sex with his 25 year old boyfriend. It is obviously consensual sex on the boys part…
Rusty Alcorta
There have been pedophile laws in place to protect our kids for decades and this is just one more. Like throwslikeagirl said, “Rules are rules.” It is good that the lawmen are paying attention to these things now. If you men and boys are not old enough to remember the mass murders of teenage boys by “The Candy Man” of Houston or John Wayne Gacy then you should read up on them. In both these cases, the police and everyone dropped the ball. Law enforcement never looked for the missing boys and wrote the boys off as runaways on their reports. In this case the boy is looking for sex and wanted to hook up with older men. I don’t know if he was aware of the law, but he should have been, being he is a senior in high school. Hustlers, as we called male prostitutes, as young as fourteen, in the seventies knew the law and still hustled the older men for money for sex and some men did get in trouble for this, but they were charged with soliciting prostitution and not as pedophiles. Most of the time the cops didn’t care about the men and they would take the hustlers in for prostitution and let the older men go. Some young hustlers got picked up so many times they were incarcerated in TYC (Texas Youth Correction) until the age of eighteen. Idk when the laws changed but later the men were being charged as pedophiles even if the boy was seventeen and a known prostitute. If the boy is seventeen and having sex with a nineteen year old, the nineteen year old can still be charged even if it’s consensual and the seventeen year old has a fake ID saying he is eighteen. The nineteen year old can and most of the time will be put on the known pedophile list. It has happened a lot of times all ready. After the nineteen year old has been put on this list, he can never be around children and he will go to jail if he is, even if those children are his nieces and nephews. In the case of these men, even if the boy is eighteen, he has to be out of school for them NOT to be charged even if the boy says it was consensual, even if he has an ID or driver’s license that says he is eighteen, the law will not see it that way. The law is the law and they get charged by the state even if NO complaints have been filed against them. (Ortiz) The law also applies even if the boy is going to a different school other than where the men work. Texas has the largest amount of teachers and school officials being charged with messing around with school children although a lot of the boys are eighteen, the fact remains that they are in school. From what I understand the laws in other states are different than Texas and prosecutors in other states find it a waste of time to prosecute men and women who have sex with someone who is above the age of consent and still in school as long as the act does not take place on school grounds and to me that is why other states have lower numbers than Texas. LAWS ARE LAWS and meant to protect everyone and adults need to abide by these laws when dealing with children barely above the age of consent or in school. In most cases the young man will be required to see a counselor or can be signed in by his parents into a psych ward for a period of time about his “problem”. His problem; being a homosexual and wanting to have sex with older men or having PTSD. I’m talking from actual case histories and not hearsay. IF any boy/young man wants to have sex with you and you are NOT sure of his age, the best thing to do is leave him alone. Pedophilia was always rampant in our country and only came to light AFTER the laws were exercised.
inbama
@Rusty Alcorta:
“LAWS ARE LAWS” – yes, unless courageous and intelligent people stand up to have them changed.
On any sex issue, slimeballs are ready to stand on their self-righteous soap box and taint you for speaking the truth.
DarkZephyr
@Tobi: I am “policing global values” by taking part in a discussion under a blog topic? Wow! I didn’t know I had such clout! 😀
@Rusty Alcorta: Except we aren’t discussing a pedophile law. We are discussing a case of impropriety but not pedophilia. Does it not move you in any way that according to J.B. in the same state a female teacher cab easily get away with this exact same thing? Except that she actually DID use her position as a teacher? This guy met an of age student on a website that was independent of where he worked and where the student went to school. This is a witch hunt.
DarkZephyr
@DarkZephyr: can*
Billy Budd
I believe that a relatioship between a 18 yo student and one of his teachers is wrong. But if the teacher has not and never will teach a class to the student, then I think it is ALL RIGHT. The problem resides in the use of AUTHORITY. Here in Brazil the law specifies the problem of sex between people who have a relationship where one person had authority over the other. These are forbidden. But if there is no authority involved, you can fuck whomever you like as long as the person is over 14. I think we are more evoved in this issue than the USA.
.
When I was around 33 yo, I had a relationship with a 19 yo undergraduate student in the USA. He was lovely. And he was proud of me. I do not regret we had a relationship in the least bit.
Stache99
@Billy Budd:”I never took advantage or made a pass. One has to restrain oneself.”
Ha. Somehow I just didn’t believe any of that BS knowing your commenting history. The truth finally comes out.
Billy Budd
@Stache99: Sorry but you are being an *****. I was a GRADUATE student and he was an UNDERGRADUATE student at that time. We were BOTH students. I did nothing wrong. Stop being an ******.
Stache99
@Billy Budd: Not being an assh*le. You start out saying your a teacher and how wrong it is to fuck one of your students and then you later say you had a relationship with a student. Next time be more clear.
Billy Budd
@Stache99: You were LOOKING for something evil. You have a bias against me and I have no idea why.
Stache99
@Billy Budd: Puleaze. You’ve commented before about how natural it is for older men to be with young boys giving us such wonderful examples of Greece and Rome. Anyways, comment whatever way you want. I’m done with this.
Billy Budd
@Stache99: 18 yo boys are perfectly fuckable. There is nothing evil about making love to an Ephebe.
From wikipedia: In regards to Greek mythology, the ephebe was a young man or initiate, around the ages of 17-18, who was put through a period of isolation from his prior community, usually the world of his mother, where he was a child in the community. The ephebe would need to hunt, rely on his senses, on aggression, stealth, and trickery to survive. At the end of the initiation, the ephebe was reincorporated back into society as a man. The idea was that if the community was ever threatened, its men would have these skills needed to protect it.
vive
The idea that a security guard has any position of authority over a student is laughable. Purely homophobic witch hunt.
Tobi
@DarkZephyr: You’re so eager to throw comments like “creeper” or “pervert” about when the age of consent or the sexuality doesn’t conform to your arbitrary American standards. I’ve known childish twenty-something’s who probably shouldn’t be having sex and 14 year olds who are happily enjoying it. I don’t have any personal interest in these age groups or intergenerational sex but in countries such as Brazil and Spain the age of consent is 14. Here in the UK it’s 16. Just because you’re fixated on a minimum age of 18 doesn’t mean the rest of us need your childish insults simply because we don’t agree that suddenly a boy is magically transformed into sex-ready man on their 18th birthday.
DarkZephyr
@Tobi: Look Pal, clearly you take my opinion VERY personally. That is on you buddy. I hardly think that my opinion amounts to “policing global policy” however. One thing I CAN tell you is that I am in no way interested in your justifications for pederasty. The fact that I am American is irrelevant. In the state of Washington where I live, the age of consent is 16 as well.
Tobi
@DarkZephyr: In that case, mate, what’s with the “If the student was 17 then both men are creepers” comment, if your local age of consent is 16? I honestly don’t get your position that if an 18 year old has sex with a 17 year old in your state he’s now de facto a “creeper”.
Rusty Alcorta
@DarkZephyr: Yes I agree that this is a witch hunt and we are talking about impropriety and not pedophilia but in some cases older males are charged with pedophilia in this same situation and this impropriety that we are talking about NOW is only dealing with males and of course it moves me and I feel that it is wrong that most female teachers that are using their positions to have sex with students are only getting a pat on the hand and some are not being charged with anything, this because it deals with heterosexual sex. I feel that both male and female perpetrators, if you want to call them that, should be punished to the full extent of the law and if you want my personal opinion if the boy is of legal age and has a site soliciting sex, I’ll say that neither man should be charged if they were not using their positions to coerce the boy to have sex. I am NOT for pedophilia but I’m NOT against legal age sex. I was only telling the men on this site of what I know has happened in the past with such cases. I personally agree with you on everything.
Roan
It’s a simple fact that you don’t cross lines. If you are an adult, do not have sex with someone who isn’t an adult or just barely an adult. As an adult, you also don’t have sex with non-adults who are placed in your care or under your authority. EVER. Otherwise, you are what you are; a pedophile, rapist, pervert, dirty old man, lecher, etc. It’s wrong. The only ones here upset about the context of it are the ones who are also doing it.
DarkZephyr
@Roan: Sure, that makes a LOT of sense especially in light of my conversation with Tobi. Seriously, get a brain. I have compassion for some gay men who are being ridiculously punished for being with someone of legal age in Texas despite my personal feelings about it. This doesn’t mean that I am “doing it”. Heterosexual women in the same state who do the same thing get off scott free. Its only the gay men who are being punished. Do you not see ANY injustice here whatsoever? If you feel this way you should be protesting the way the women were handled to high heaven, because dirty old women have gotten away with it, again and again. I think you are projecting, personally. Ever heard the saying “The Lady doth protest too much”?
crowebobby
@Roan: You’re absolutely right. There are lines you don’t cross. If you are a man, you don’t have sex with another man. EVER. If you do you are a pervert, a degenerate and a cancerous growth in the soul of human society. Niceties such as age, circumstances and consent are just defenses mentally ill creatures such as yourself put forth to excuse the disgusting behavior you’re obviously indulging in. So there!
JJ24
@crowebobby: Fuck you
JJ24
@Roan: First you failed to answer my question of did you not know what you wanted at 17?
Second “The only ones here upset about the context of it are the ones who are also doing it.”
No I’ve in fact never been with anyone young then me(i’m 24 and engaged to a 43 year old).
I’m upset because you want to lump a consenting 17 year old in with actual rape victims(as one my self it infuriates me).
Did this 17(possibly 18) year old consent? Yes, is he legally able to? Yes, should the 38 year old security have has sex with him? No, Should he be punished? Yes, is he the same as a pedo who rapes a 6 year old? No and lumping him in with them is disgusting.
vive
@JJ24, I agreed with everything and then you lost me at “Should he be punished? Yes.” How do you figure that? Please, we should distinguish between law (which is often unjust, including here) and actual justice.
JJ24
@vive: He should be fired, that’s all I meant.
vive
@JJ24, oh ok, that’s reasonable.
Merv
It’s not exactly a secret that in the US, between the soccer moms and the evangelicals, there is an atmosphere of hysteria surrounding teenage sexuality. Given this, you better make damn sure you’re on the right side of the law. Even so, this Texas law is even more draconian than most. Criminally, there should be one age of consent, and it should be around 16, plus or minus. Abusing a position of authority is a separate crime, and it’s not even clear that was an issue here. In this case, the punishment should have been an administrative one: Termination of employment. Twenty years is ridiculous.
Roan
@JJ24:
It’s disgusting the way you blame the victim here. Victim shaming. Good job.
IT’S SIMPLE:
If you are an adult, do not have sexual relations with someone who is not an adult. There are no excuses, what ifs, special circumstances, etc. Use some self control and keep it in your pants and don’t take 17 year old high school seniors off to the woods for blow jobs. Use more self control and tell the 17 year old who “knows what he wants” a simple answer: NO.
Roan
@DarkZephyr:
The security guard is 38. The high school student is 17. Lady, you can protest all you doth, but the fact that you and 95% of the posters here don’t see anything wrong with this is mind boggling.
JJ24
@Roan: How am I blaming the “victim”? There is no victim. The 17 year old is legally able to consent so how is he a victim? He went online and sought out casual sex partners. Should the 38 year old have had better judgement yes, should he be fired because clearly he lacks good judgement, yes. Did he commit a crime? No.
So are you going to answer the question or not, did you know what you want at 17? Yes or No?
As I’ve said i’m 24 and i’ve never been with someone younger, so you saying self control speaks more about your issues then mine.
Tobi
@Roan: You’d be OK with it if they were married though, right?!
Roan
@JJ24:
You are entitled to your beliefs. Obviously I have a higher moral standard than you and others. I’m OK with that.
JJ24
@Roan: Your an asshat, I never once said it was morally ok. What I said was he did not commit a crime and is not that same as someone who rapes a 10 year old. You also refuse to answer the question DID YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANTED AT 17? YES OR NO? You also seem content to go off about this 38 year old, but what about his 25 year old boyfriend who is facing the same amount of jail time?
Roan
@JJ24:
Both the 25 year old and the 38 year old have committed crimes. Both were well aware of what they were doing and that it was wrong. Suffer the consequences. Again, I’m quite secure with my moral beliefs and your opinion of me is of no concern whatsoever.
JJ24
@Roan: What crime did they commit? Age of consent in Texas is 17, so no crime was committed.
YES OR NO DID YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANTED AT 17?
JJ24
@Roan:YES OR NO DID YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANTED AT 17?
Roan
@JJ24:
Crime = five counts of second-degree felony improper relationship with a student. Each charge carries a penalty of two to 20 years in prison with a maximum fine of $10,000.
Merv
@Roan Crime = Homosexual sex between consenting adults (Texas in 2003). Using the law as your guide to morality isn’t always the best idea.
inbama
@Merv:
He’s the worst kind of person – smearing people who come to the defense of others.
As Edward R. Murrow asked Joe McCarthy “Have you no decency, sir?”
Tobi
@inbama: It’s amazing how much knicker twisting happens regarding this topic, huh? The labels fly thick and fast, paedophile, pederast, creeper, pervert et al. You’d think it pretty self-explanatory that if the “victim” is old enough to get a job, marry and fight for their country, you’d hope they’d be capable of deciding for themselves whether a quickie in the woods is their idea of a good time or not. It’s a double standard that even most homosexuals seem happy to defend. You see plenty of 60+ age differences with heterosexuals, especially amongst the rich and famous, and no one says a word, well apart from the media where it’s often “congratulations”… !
JJ24
@Roan: If thats the case, then the female teacher her fucked a 17 year old would have been charged too, guess what she was it.
With your fucked up logic sodomy is crime too.
Roan
@JJ24:
Your reading comprehension and retention is quite poor. Again, I’m quite secure in my moral beliefs and what you or any of the other “contributors” here on QUEERTY think about me is quite insignificant and of no consequence to me whatsoever.
Rusty Alcorta
For those of you who are following the story; He is NOT going to jail, he got probation and was NOT put on the pedophile listing as do men who have sex with minors.
http://abc13.com/news/ex-conroe-isd-sgt-sentenced-for-improper-relationship-with-student/298631/
JJ24
@Rusty Alcorta: That’s good but not good as the female teacher didn’t even get charged. But at least he isn’t in jail.
JJ24
@Roan: Turning to insults when faced with fact and logic, pathetic.
Your refusal to answer if you knew what you wanted at 17, means yes you did but answering that means you have to admit to being wrong. I leave you with this, crimes are things that hurt someone. Situations like this are not crimes as no one was/is hurt. Simply following anything listed as a crime leads to compliancy in crimes. Yes they had a law on the books that made these relations a crime, Iraq criminalizes gay anal sex, does that make it a wrong for two men to have it? No.
Laws do not always equal crimes, I highly suggest using your brain and thinking for your self.
vive
@Rusty Alcorta, that’s better than it could have been, but he shouldn’t even have got probation. I guess the judge did the sanest thing he could in light of a bad law.
vive
And they don’t say what happened to the other boyfriend. Is he still working at the school?
Rusty Alcorta
@vive: Yes it turned out better than it could have been but not like I wanted. I wanted all the charges against Sutton dismissed because of the circumstances. I followed a case in Corpus Christi where a 28 year old man was sentenced to five years in jail for having sex with a 17 year old known prostitute and the 28 year old was labeled a pedophile so I’ve been watching this bullshit case closely. I have not seen or heard of anything about the Ortiz case (the other man) and I feel all charges against him should be dismissed because of the circumstances. I feel the female teachers should get sentenced if they break the law, but this, like some are saying, only has to do with sex between males. Texas has had some really bad laws concerning gays. In 1970 there was an ordinance in Houston where two men could not live in a one bedroom apartment. Some managers looked the other way, but some didn’t. Some managers even evicted some men because they had too many males coming in and out of their apartments and the law was on their side. I don’t know when the ordinance of two men occupying a one bedroom apartment was repealed because now I have neighbors where five guys live in a one bedroom apartment.The changes I’ve liked in our society in the last forties years are that now we have known gay and lesbian couples living in our complex without criticism and they can not be evicted on terms of same sex living in a one bedroom apartment and they mingle with the straights who have parties for their kids and invite the whole complex, but we must keep moving forward. As long as gay “boys” are of legal age I feel that they should have sex with whoever they please no matter what age the man is, like in other countries. Some societies still exist where they couple off their boys for sex with boys their own age, older or younger and some where there are laws governing boys having sex with men in their country but everyone knowingly turn their heads the other way because they feel the boy is old enough to know what he wants, but if the boy cries rape, the man is beaten to death, decapitated or hung from a tree and burned to death and the law does nothing. Many Americans at one time thought they could go to other countries and have sex with minors and get away with it but now if any American has sex with a minor in another country, even if it is legal there or no one cares, he is being policed by American laws, he will be jailed there and then extradited to the U.S. and once on American soil, he will be charged with pedophilia and in some cases get life in prison.
Roan
@JJ24:
Oh, so sorry that your feelings were hurt. Quite obviously reading comprehension of your own comments isn’t your strong suit. Now, please fuck off.