Her religion is dying out and it’s the last solid thing she has. If she would just let go and find peace she would be ok.

So people, be patient with her. She is a dying breed and will eventually lose and fade away. Then perhaps we can grow spiritually as a society and evolve as we have technically.

You have no knowledge of my marriage, which again, lasted 17 years (longer if you count the time before we were married). How many people anywhere, my age or even 10 years older, can say they have had a monogamous relationship spanning that length of time? Can you? I doubt it! You have no basis on which to “judge” my marriage, nor me even though you really want to.

I have the knowledge you have revealed here: It was interracial, it failed, you are bitter, and you display racist tendencies.

If the straight community can bend and see that just because our sexual orientation is different, we are ALL human and deserve the same rights, why can’t you understand that marriage between a man and woman is sacred and we will protect it! You weren’t so into tradtion when you decided to have a same sex relationship, why fuss over it now? I call BULLSHIT!

Because I can’t understand what you think you are protecting marriage from. Please explain EXACTLY how gay people marrying threatens marriage between a man and a woman. See earlier remark about small child throwing ice cream to the floor because her sister gets some too. It’s a shame your feelings about marriage are so shallow.

You want me to say I am a bigot? OK, you got it!

Yes dear, we all had that figured out after your first post. Owning your bigotry is the first step to healing.

or rather, she’d probably blame it on the “liberal agenda” the rightwing is always accusing higher education of promoting. Anything and everything but reflect on her beliefs…and think for herself, and realize that it’s not others, it’s her.

Then you’ll be damned.

FYI…No one CAN answer my question directly and no one HAS! No one has met the challenge.

Your question has been answered. You don’t like the answer, so you ignore it. But the answer remains.

There are physiological differences in the brains of addicts, as there are for, say, gay men.

Proof please.

Should we change the drunk driving laws and make them more relaxed for everyone, just because a select few over-indulge?

Drunk driving kills thousands every year. Being gay does not. No one is born an alcoholic. Gay people are born. Your argument is facile and absurd.

Personally, I think that is a ridiculous idea. But I’ll be damned if it isn’t similar!

Then you are damned because it is not similar. I find it appalling that you were able to get into an institution of higher learning to study psychology with such an inept thought process, and such lack luster debating skills. You should have stuck with cutting hair.

You want me to say I am a bigot? OK, you got it!

Nice to see you admit the obvious.

I don’t believe same sex relationships are the way nature/higher power/God/whatever intended.

And I don’t believe that people should be able to get divorced all willy-nilly. Yet you indulged in that. The bible forbids it. But like most, you cherry pick what tenets of the bible you will follow; preaching the ones that damn those you oppose, ignoring those that damn you.

I do believe you have a right to have sex with whatever/whomever you want to as long as they are consenting.

Oh how kind of you. Can we drink from the same fountains as you too?

Here is where it gets tricky…I don’t want to see it in my or my children’s everyday lives.

Where are you or your children seeing people having sex? Did your kids see you and your ex-husband kissing and hugging? Do you show affection in public? Did you have your wedding in public? Straight people shove their sexuality down everyone else’s throats every day.

I don’t want it to affect their education,

You want you children to grow up ignorant? You want your children to learn about sexuality in the street? you want gay children to be left out of the education process? i thought you cared about kids. Since you disavowed your own bisexual daughter, it’s clear you only care about straight kids.

scout leaders should not be gay,

And why not? Should Scout leaders also not be Asian? Or women? Or old, or too young?

priests and ministers should not be gay

And why not? Children would be safer, since all the people who molested those kids were straight.

and children in the system should go to straight married couples first, single straight people second and so forth!

So, you think kids should go where it’s politically correct to go, rather than going somewhere where they will be loved? You would rather a child go to a single parent home, than a home with two loving parents?

I know many adopted children and they have enough problems dealing with being adopted into straight families who are functional and don’t need the added problems associated with having two daddies or two mommies and not having the basic human right of having a parent of each sex so that they can grow up with the best possible circumstance.

And yet you don’t know any kids who have grown up in families with two dads, or moms. But you make broad sweeping generalizations without all the facts. Typical. It’s people like you who make lives difficult for kids with same-sex parents because of your bigotry.

Secondly, where is it stated that it is a human right to have opposite sex parents? What about kids with one parent–like yourself? Are you a lousy parent because rather than your children having a father, they have your boyfriend? Do you see the hypocritical stance you are taking?

Your kids had opposite sex parents and yet you are a Divorcée who rejects her daughter because of something she was born with. Is that “the best possible circumstance” that you seek?

Don’t get me wrong,

Too late.

I think a gay couple is totally capable and willing to love a child, but they are incapable of fulfilling the needs of a child in a well rounded way. This is a basic, intrinsic need of any child!!!!

You are so stupid! You have no idea what you are talking about, yet you keep yammering on and on. Prove that being raised in a same-sex home is bad for kids, I dare you to. Because I can prove that this is not bad for kids, you sill cow.

When you bring marriage into the homosexual topic, you also open up a huge can of worms for the future of our children.

If you cared about your kids, you would not be divorced and you would not have rejected your bisexual daughter. You are the very last person who should be lecturing on what’s right for kids.

Not just mine, everyone’s.

Worry about your own kids. If you have enough time to worry about other people’s kids, then clearly you are not spending enough time with your own family.

There are far too many ramifications we see now

What? List those ramifications that we can see now.

and ones we cannot see yet, that will harm the majority of the people in ways we can’t even begin to fathom.

Pathetic. Now she can see into the future!

I am sooo tired of having alternative lifestyles shoved in my face and the faces of my children and their friends and anyone else’s kids, that go against what I and countless others like me, believe is right.

No one is shoving anything in your fat face, sunshine. You went looking for trouble and found it. You invaded a gay blog and wrote trash about people you don’t know. We didn’t come to you, you came looking for us. People like you love to shove your nose in everyone’s business because your life is so sad and empty. You get a thrill out of telling others what to do.

Mark my words, in the future, we will begin to see beastiality becomming mainstream because we are subjecting ourselves to more and more extremem sexual perversions every day and I for one, won’t sit still and let that happen!!!

People like you ruined marriage. People like us are trying to save it. You rape kids; rape adults; have sex with animals; sell children into prostitution; sell women into prostitution; and generally exploit humanity. If the world is de-evolving, it’s because of people like you.

The Earth and all it’s inhabitants are going to hell in a hand basket and most of what is wrong in all ways, is that we have gone soooo far away from the way nature intended everything to be!!! This is a proven fact!

A proven fact? Then prove it. Provide your evidence to back up your ridiculous arguments. Until you do you are a liar.

The world in in trouble because silly cows like you run around getting divorced; rejecting your kids; blaming your failures on gay men and your weight.

FYI…No one CAN answer my question directly and no one HAS! No one has met the challenge.

There are physiological differences in the brains of addicts, as there are for, say, gay men. Should we change the drunk driving laws and make them more relaxed for everyone, just because a select few over-indulge? Personally, I think that is a ridiculous idea. But I’ll be damned if it isn’t similar!

You want me to say I am a bigot? OK, you got it!

I don’t believe same sex relationships are the way nature/higher power/God/whatever intended.

I do believe you have a right to have sex with whatever/whomever you want to as long as they are consenting. Here is where it gets tricky…I don’t want to see it in my or my children’s everyday lives. I don’t want it to affect their education, scout leaders should not be gay, priests and ministers should not be gay and children in the system should go to straight married couples first, single straight people second and so forth!

I know many adopted children and they have enough problems dealing with being adopted into straight families who are functional and don’t need the added problems associated with having two daddies or two mommies and not having the basic human right of having a parent of each sex so that they can grow up with the best possible circumstance.

Don’t get me wrong, I think a gay couple is totally capable and willing to love a child, but they are incapable of fulfilling the needs of a child in a well rounded way. This is a basic, intrinsic need of any child!!!!

When you bring marriage into the homosexual topic, you also open up a huge can of worms for the future of our children. Not just mine, everyone’s. There are far too many ramifications we see now and ones we cannot see yet, that will harm the majority of the people in ways we can’t even begin to fathom.

I am sooo tired of having alternative lifestyles shoved in my face and the faces of my children and their friends and anyone else’s kids, that go against what I and countless others like me, believe is right.

Mark my words, in the future, we will begin to see beastiality becomming mainstream because we are subjecting ourselves to more and more extremem sexual perversions every day and I for one, won’t sit still and let that happen!!!

The Earth and all it’s inhabitants are going to hell in a hand basket and most of what is wrong in all ways, is that we have gone soooo far away from the way nature intended everything to be!!! This is a proven fact!

The only thing you did, was try to cut me down to make yourself feel superior!

All you’ve done sine you came here was post comments on how straights and your marriages are superior to gays and our marriages.

You have no knowledge of my marriage,

But I’m sure we all pity your husband.

which again, lasted 17 years (longer if you count the time before we were married).

Long enough to have a bisexual daughter that you would disown 16 years later.

How many people anywhere, my age or even 10 years older, can say they have had a monogamous relationship spanning that length of time? Can you? I doubt it!

I’m only 31, but I’ve been with the same man for 5 years. One of my best friends has been with his now husband, since 1958–51 years, you silly cow.

The question you need to be asking, is how have gay men manged to maintain relations in a society that until recently, made our lives illegal. You won’t ask that question because you would have to admit that gays were not at fault, that straights were our oppressors. Even though we had to hide our love away, we still managed to find each other and build lasting relationships–with no help from you.

You have no basis on which to “judge” my marriage, nor me even though you really want to.

All i know is you’re a pathetic Divorcée who bitterly trolls gay blogs in order to chastise gays. You hate the fact that you can’t find a man, yet here we all are with men in our lives. it must drive you batty knowing we have what you squandered and most likely, will never have again–a loving man.

Since my divorce, I have been in a long term relationship with my bf of almost 8 years.

So why don’t you spend less time here and ore time with him? I’m sure he’s pleased that you spend your free time telling gays not to marry, rather than with him.

I don’t think my demographics has hurt me one bit.

But your lousy personality has.

Through all of this back and forth bullshit, NO ONE has been able or willing to answer my last question! NO ONE! The only answer I get is “because we want it, whaaaaaah!”

And you haven’t provided one piece of evidence to back up all your numerous OPINIONS. Until you can show that gay marriage will cause you problems, your opinions is not worth a damn.

Here it is again, if anyone cares to attempt it:

You have not answered one single question that has been put to you. How dare you come to our blog and demand we answer to you.

If the straight community can bend and see that just because our sexual orientation is different,

The straight community never bent. We had to march, go to court, protest and sue to get every little bit of freedom we enjoy today. it did not happen over night, it took decades for us to arrive here today. You have done nothing for us.

we are ALL human and deserve the same rights,

You believe we deserve certain rights. Not “the same rights” as you claim; but a another level–a lower level–of rights that will only apply to us and no one else. that is not the same, that is quite different.

why can’t you understand that marriage between a man and woman is sacred and we will protect it!

If it was so sacred, why do straights like you divorce and remarry everyday? If you believe marriage is sacred, you would still be married and not living in sin with a man who is not your husband.

You weren’t so into tradtion when you decided to have a same sex relationship, why fuss over it now?

And you weren’t into tradition when you decided to shack up with your lover, rather than get married.

I call BULLSHIT!

Again, I hope you do so while looking in your mirror.

I would sincerely love to hear from someone that can honestly answer that question,

Please see above.

without diluting it by being attacking or changing the subject

All your answers a re located above.

and openly acknowledge that gay sexual practices are not traditionally or currently viewed as “the norm.”

You are a minority in your opinion, cupcake.

That’s my challenge!

Tis been met and vanquished.

I think I’m going to name my asshole “John Santos.”

I was going to name my douchebag MommaM, but someone beat me to it.

Well, he is blonde…and while it is true that they have more fun (so I’ve heard, as I’m carrot), they’re also really stupid.

First and foremost, you say that the straight community must “bend” in order to see that “we are ALL human and deserve the same rights” — do you see how ridiculous that statement is? Straights really have to BEND in order to see that we’re equal? Don’t you see that being viewed as equal shouldn’t require any bending, thinking, worrying or hesitating. You’re proving the points above that the straight community (or at least the straight community that won’t accept same-sex marriage) is viewing things in a twisted perspective, and they have to bend to see things clearly! This “twisted perspective” could also be labeled a bigoted perspective — because it is not seeing the simple truth for how it stands, but instead allowing one’s personal feelings color his or her perspective.

But to attempt to answer your question with a question of my own: Just because I am in a same-sex relationship, *why* do I have to lower my expectations for getting married? Just because it’s not “traditional”? You do realize that by virtue of something being a “tradition,” it’s not always a good thing, right? American traditions in the past have included slavery, segregation, gender bias, exploitation of workers, etc. You ask, “why fuss over it now” like it’s not a big deal, which is offensive to me. You know marriage is a big deal, you’ve been stating it over and over again in this thread — why should I just shrug it off? Because you say so? Because I’m not like you? Again, you’re veering your comments directly into traditional definitions of bigotry and discrimination. And *that* is why I won’t give up on demanding marriage for me and my partner — because there is no reason for us NOT to be married. At least, no reason that can’t be dismissed by bigotry.

You have no knowledge of my marriage, which again, lasted 17 years (longer if you count the time before we were married). How many people anywhere, my age or even 10 years older, can say they have had a monogamous relationship spanning that length of time? Can you? I doubt it! You have no basis on which to “judge” my marriage, nor me even though you really want to.

Since my divorce, I have been in a long term relationship with my bf of almost 8 years. I don’t think my demographics has hurt me one bit.

Through all of this back and forth bullshit, NO ONE has been able or willing to answer my last question! NO ONE! The only answer I get is “because we want it, whaaaaaah!”

Here it is again, if anyone cares to attempt it:

If the straight community can bend and see that just because our sexual orientation is different, we are ALL human and deserve the same rights, why can’t you understand that marriage between a man and woman is sacred and we will protect it! You weren’t so into tradtion when you decided to have a same sex relationship, why fuss over it now? I call BULLSHIT!

I would sincerely love to hear from someone that can honestly answer that question, without diluting it by being attacking or changing the subject and openly acknowledge that gay sexual practices are not traditionally or currently viewed as “the norm.”

That’s my challenge!

I am not religious, had you known how to comprehend anything I wrote regarding religion, you would know that.

I though you weren’t going to respond to me any more? Like I said, you’re desperate for attention. Sad.

I am not ignorant, in fact, my IQ is over 160.

Why do right-wingers insist on bragging about their brains and degrees and education and work? Who are you trying to impress–me, or yourself?

Just because I do not prescribe to your type of sex or even your belief that you deserve to be given exactly what you want, the way you want it, just because you are having a temper tanturm, doesn’t make me a bad person.

The only person flying off the handle here is you, sunshine.

You want the “rights”, but you won’t lay off the title of “marriage”…too bad.

As long as ALL Americans are protected by the constitution of these united States, we will fight for equality. Get used to it.

Even if you gain the right to call it marriage, do you honestly believe society will look at the LGBT Ccommunity as the same as straights?

The majority of Americans already favor recognition of marriage equality. You are in the minority.

Really?

Yes, really.

Many of you are fighting for semantics!

So are you. Don’t you even see your own absurdity?

Who the fuck cares if the majority of the population of this country want to keep marriage the way it is currently?

When equality is taken away from only a certain segment of society, everyone should care.

If the straight community can bend and see that just because our sexual orientation is different, we are ALL human and deserve the same rights, why can’t you understand that marriage between a man and woman is sacred and we will protect it!

If we deserve the same rights, why do you support “separate-but-equal” You keep claiming we are the same and have the same rights, yet you clearly want a different definition for people you don’t agree with.

You weren’t so into tradtion when you decided to have a same sex relationship, why fuss over it now?

There is noting untraditional about loving other people. What is not traditional, is inequality and the support of second class status.

I call BULLSHIT!

Make sure you do that while looking in the mirror.

As before, you claim you want to “protect” marriage between a man and a woman, while having yet to demonstrate exactly how giving gay people access to the institution harms straight people’s marriages. You’re like a small child who feels special for getting an ice cream cone, then throws it on the floor when she finds out her sister got one too. Actually, you’re worse than that because the small child would presumably be having to share a finite amount of ice cream, whereas marriage licenses aren’t something that can run out.

Grow up.

MommaM- again, the fact that you continue to make these kinds of arguments bespeaks of how blinded you are to your own privilege. Black Pride is not equivalent to White Pride. Try to get this, seriously: THERE IS NO LEGITIMATE NEED FOR THE MAJORITY TO CARVE OUT NICHES. We don’t need white pride because we have never been taught to feel white shame. You don’t need straight pride because there aren’t people who make a career out of publically calling straights an abomination against God to the heartfelt Amens of millions.

“I did not cut anyone down as a human being”

Yes, you did. When you oppose equality for your fellow human beings, you cut us all down as human beings.

“I was told that my opinion was wrong because it differed from theirs. I was called names, told I was stupid etc..”

Well, you need to expect a certain pushback when you make ludicrously hypocritical arguments such as this:

“I wish the gay community would stop trying to CHANGE the straight community in such huge ways.”

No one is trying to CHANGE the straight community. What you really mean is that gay people being able to marry will make it harder for anti-gay straight people such as yourself to feel you are intrinsically superior by having access to something which we do not. In other words, by this statement you are saying that you do not value marriage for itself, but for the way you feel it can illustrate your privileged status above homosexuals. You may not have used cuss words to express it, but that is an EXTREMELY ugly opinion.

And the thing is, everyone has a limit. When you grow up L or G or B or T or whatever, and you hear this ugliness every day, and you see the smug, self-satisfied smiles of the ugliness-purveyers as they bask in their certainty that, oh of course they’re not spewing hate, no no, it’s their victims who are the real bad guys, well, some people just eventually lose patience. Frankly, sometimes I’m amazed that gay people haven’t rioted in every major city in North America.

Firstly, the homophobe’s name is Sheryl.

Yes, her testimony was a disgrace, but take some care in editing!

“How vigorously they would “fight” that fact that straights were celebrating their sexual orientation…”

… I don’t know if gay people would have a problem with a straight pride parade or not to be honest.

But I’m 100% certain that those who oppose gay marriage on religious principle would be equally opposed to a 5 city block orgy even if everyone there is straight.

In fact, can we just assume that people opposed to gay rights are generally anti-sex and thus shouldn’t be invited to any parties?

First, I didn’t actually want to know “why” we don’t have white or straight parades, I was merely pointing out the double standard that exists in the perception of some people’s minds.

If you don’t understand the function–historically and currently–of Pride Parades, then no amount of education will help you understand.

Historically they were, as many marchers in the seventies stated, marching for those who cannot. Today, we march to remind those that seek to pass laws curtailing our right to exists, that we will not be silent.

What would the reaction of other groups be? How vigorously they would “fight” that fact that straights were celebrating their sexual orientation…

You celebrate it everyday. On television, in movies, by getting married, by joining the military. Clearly you aren’t interested in understanding the “why”; you’re only interested in playing the victim, when you are not.

Secondly, Your post is a perfect example of how I was approaching this topic. I had an opinion, as you do. I shared said opinion, as you have.

No. You came to a gay blog and wrote the following:

It amazes me how many of you on here, preach “free speach” and want others to be “tolerant” of your chosen lifestyle and
opinions and yet, when your thoughts and beliefs are challenged or even merely disagreed with, you attack their religion,
intelligence and THEIR right to believe and live the way THEY do!

You came here looking for a fight. You thought all the gays on this message board would be frightened of some anonymous poster and allow you to spew your intolerance without a challenge. And when you were challenged, you reverted to your tried and true self–an anti-gay bigot trying desperately to justifying here hate.

You’ve claimed repeatedly that we “choose” a “lifestyle”. Yet you expect us to accept your chosen opinions.

YOu and I may have different sexual orientations and ideas and opinions, but you are a person who has shown respect in your approach, others did not.

Why should we show you respect when you write things like this:

I happen to be a mother of a bi-sexual daughter. I love my daughter with all my heart, but she too knows that I do not support anything other than traditional marriage. I hate the fact that I have to even include the word “traditional” in that sentence, because to me…marriage is simply between a man and a woman, period!

You came to our house and disrespected us. You get what you give, sunshine.

I was told that my opinion was wrong because it differed from theirs. I was called names, told I was stupid etc..

You have acted like an imbecile, are you surprised to be treated as such? You haven’t provided a shred of evidence, nor fact to back up your OPINION. Yet you expect us to accept your opinions as fact.

It seems to me, that if the LGBT community wants change,

Who are you to lecture us on change? We have fought decades to get where we are today, without any help from you. You have admitted that you don’t support marriage equality and you voted for Prop 8. Whey should we take the advice of an anti-gay bigot?

the only way to effect change is to educate and convince other’s of your views.

Many posters have tried to educate you, yet you remain steadfast in your intolerance. What you really want us to do, is what you say. Won’t happen.

You do not do this by being an asshole,

You’ve set the standard. We’re simply acting as you have.

that only puts the rest of us on the defense and let’s face it, I am straight and it is my demographic that hold the majority of the votes,

You are only the majority by 3%. When Prop 8 comes up again, you will lose. I appreciate that you believe that you have absolute power over the gay community, but that is not so.

being a jerk (John, Tank and a few others) will only cause me and others who come into this formum for more insight or conversation, to revert to an even firmer stance against change.

I like how you think you can change us with threats. please do come back and bring all your intolerant friends. We will beat you back with sound logic and facts. And like you did last night, you will cut and run. We’ve been dealing with bitches like you for decades. We weren’t afraid of you then; not now; and not tomorrow. BRING IT ON!

It’s sad, honestly I don’t care what anyone does in their bedroom,

Yes you do. that is why you voted against marriage equality; that is why you came to a gay blog and made wild accusations; that is why you continue in your belligerent manner. You can’t stand to see gays happy and would like nothing more than to control our lives.

Get you own life in control, before telling others how to live, missy.

I do love or dislike people of all types, even if we don’t have the same exact views…but to some, they just want to twist that fact to suit their own purpose and make it into somthing ugly and tht leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. The hostility was completely unjustified.

You brought the hostility to this blog by posting this:

I wish the gay community would stop trying to CHANGE the straight community in such huge ways. How about the idea of a
compromise? Why not have the same type of union, but call it something different, “Domestic Union” or something like that?

Please do come back. I haven’t finished handing your ass to you yet.

First, I didn’t actually want to know “why” we don’t have white or straight parades, I was merely pointing out the double standard that exists in the perception of some people’s minds. What would the reaction of other groups be? How vigorously they would “fight” that fact that straights were celebrating their sexual orientation…

Secondly, Your post is a perfect example of how I was approaching this topic. I had an opinion, as you do. I shared said opinion, as you have. You have not called me names, nor did I. I did not cut anyone down as a human being, nor have you. YOu and I may have different sexual orientations and ideas and opinions, but you are a person who has shown respect in your approach, others did not. I was told that my opinion was wrong because it differed from theirs. I was called names, told I was stupid etc..

It seems to me, that if the LGBT community wants change, the only way to effect change is to educate and convince other’s of your views. You do not do this by being an asshole, that only puts the rest of us on the defense and let’s face it, I am straight and it is my demographic that hold the majority of the votes, being a jerk (John, Tank and a few others) will only cause me and others who come into this formum for more insight or conversation, to revert to an even firmer stance against change. It’s sad, honestly I don’t care what anyone does in their bedroom, I do love or dislike people of all types, even if we don’t have the same exact views…but to some, they just want to twist that fact to suit their own purpose and make it into somthing ugly and tht leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. The hostility was completely unjustified.

I came into this forum by accident! I was actually searching for more information on the subject of marriage reform and it brought me here. I thought this might be a good way for me to get some conversation going and maybe enlighten a few people and be enlightened by a few people as to the background of “the other side.” Too bad that is not what happened, not matter how long I tried.

Sorry, gotta run, will answer your last question later.

As Blondeboi said “i don’t think i should judge mrs. briggs or her decision. no one knows what is going through her mind except her. one day everything will be okay, so why attack people over it now?”

So in other words…marriage is a deeply meaningful, personal, sacred thing, a pivotal moment in a couple’s life, to be celebrated and cherished and respected…but not everyone deserves to have one.

I guess that’s why I don’t understand anti-gay marriage arguments; I can’t imagine cherishing something so deeply but arbitrarily denying it to certain people based only on their genders.

For the record, I am an unmarried heterosexual who has no interest in getting married as long as it maintains its discriminatory country-club status.

Someone who can, again apparently in all sincerity, believe that the blunt instrument of law should be applied to force others to follow her religious beliefs on marriage and then turn around and accuse others of being intolerant for wanting the freedom to not have to live our lives according to her religious beliefs is completely incapable of both self-reflection and empathy.

MommaM- I’m sure this will all go in one ear and out the other, but what the heck:

The reason we don’t have White Pride parades or Straight Pride parades is because the majority has no legitimate need to celebrate its distinctiveness. Despite your marriage which you seem to love to fling about as proof of something or other, you do appear to have at least some level of residual racism, which you should probably address.

Your opposition to gay marriage and our opposition to your opposition to gay marriage are not equivalent. Legalized gay marriage does not restrict your right to marry the person you love, both because you presumably tend to fall in love with members of the opposite sex and because legalizing gay marriage does not involve outlawing straight marriage. Nonlegalized gay marriage does restrict our rights in marrying the person we love. One side seeks to expand rights, the other seeks to keep them curtailed.

I’m actually curious- would it be possible for you to articulate an argument against same-sex marriage that would not be in essence identical to those used by opponents of interracial marriage? Seriously, try to think of one and let us know what you come up with.

Lastly, you really should stop the whole righteous indignation thing over having been given the fight you came to have. It’s the age old complaint of the privileged: “How DARE you treat me the way I treat you?!”