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SHOCK: Uganda Dropping Death Penalty + Life Sentences For Gays

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After international media attention and criticism of the American religious leaders and politicians involved in Uganda’s proposed “kill the gays” bill, lawmakers there are planning on dropping the death penalty and life imprisonment punishments.

That’s according to Uganda’s Ethics Minister James Nsaba Buturo (pictured), who’s backed the persecution of Uganda’s gays. Why the changes? “To attract the support of religious leaders who are opposed to these penalties, Buturo said today in a phone interview from the capital, Kampala.” That’s according to Bloomberg’s Fred Ojambo.

So what type of punishment for being gay will the bill include? Thus far, it’s unclear. But expect some ex-gay-style reparative therapy up in this bitch: “In addition to formulating punishments for the gay people, the bill will also promote counseling to help ‘attract errant people to acceptable sexual orientation,’ said Buturo.”

This is a bizarre twist — and one we’re cautiously optimistic about. That a country is even proposing a bill that actively persecutes queers is, alone, repugnant. But to remove the most immediate and violent threats — execution and life sentences — is a step in the right direction.

Meanwhile …

Because this is how she rolls, Rachel Maddow is not letting this Uganda/Kill The Gays thing die. Or its connection to The Family.

David Bahati, the Uganda legislator backing the bill, reportedly first floated the idea of murdering gays during The Family’s Uganda National Prayer Breakfast in 2008 — a similar event, of the same name, The Family sponsors in the United States. And it’s all coming together around Family member Sen. James Inhofe, who’s been involved in Uganda’s power circles for years, reports The Family author Jeff Sharlet.

All of which leads to this: Right now, how does The Family’s members view the proposed legislation in Uganda? As Sharlet tells it, a one Bob Hunter — whose original involvement in Uganda was supposedly tied to orphans — is trying to lobby his C Street peers, including Sen. Inhofe, to oppose the bill. A curious move, given it was Hunter who’s said to have established the connection between the family and Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni — who’s tight with Doug Coe, Hunter’s Christian ally. Thus far, it appears Hunter’s effort are falling on deaf ears; The Family members who only recently involved themselves in Ugandan politics are, all of a sudden, claiming to be hands off.

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  • 21 Comments
    • David Ehrenstein
      David Ehrenstein

      Hats off and a low bow to Rachel for shining a very strong light on this. No one — and I mean NO ONE — in the “Mainstream” media is following this story at all. It’s multi-faceted as “The Family” is very much in meltdown. But continued pressure must be put on Uganda — which gets TONS of “Foreign Aid” from the U.S.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 8:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      This isn’t the first time extremism has been rewarded handsomely. North Korea threatened inhumane behavior and as a result benefitted financially. Uganda will now garner the much needed support of religious leaders. That Ethics Minister, James Nsaba Buturo, should be released from his position. Rachel Maddow did a good job.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 9:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Homosexual imperialism
      Homosexual imperialism

      Like all complex behavioral and mental states, HOMOSEXUALITY is…neither exclusively biological nor exclusively psychological, BUT results from an as-yet-difficult-to-quantitate mixture of genetic factors, intrauterine influences…postnatal environment (such as parent, sibling and cultural behavior), and a complex series of repeatedly reinforced choices occurring at critical phases of development.

      If euros want to filth stirrers, then they should DO SO IN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES!

      Seriously though, if you care so much about men who have anal sex with other men, why not invite them over and give them asylum (I suggest Guatanamo). That way your headache will be cured and you will have helped remove an abomination from our midst.

      We Ugandans will ignore criminal colonialists, descendants of slave traders and imperialists who are keen to undermine and berate African societies with their homosexual neo-colonialism. Homosexual tendency is a birth/behavioral defect. The perverted homosexual behavior IS LEARNED. Persecution of gays has been part of / and is still part of Western history also most recently by the nazis and communists.

      So after allowing gays, next is bestiality ? Human right to sleep with your dog, cat, horse etc…?

      Shame on you homophobic homos

      Dec 10, 2009 at 10:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ugandan
      Ugandan

      I just pity men who want to wear pumpers like little ones because the anal sphincters can no longer hold! Homosexuality is simply unnatural and countries which claim to be “liberal” should better learn to respect us. After all we never mingle in their internal affairs.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 10:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      No. 4 · Ugandan
      I just pity men who want to wear pumpers like little ones because the anal sphincters can no longer hold! Homosexuality is simply unnatural and countries which claim to be “liberal” should better learn to respect us. After all we never mingle in their internal affairs.
      _____________________________________________

      You never mingle in our affairs because you can’t. You’re too busy taking all of our aid money and still having your coutnries fail. Laws like this just prove that your country isn’t developed enough to be taken seriously on the international stage and should be treated like what it is, a bigoted, murderous shadow government only existing because of handouts from the west.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 10:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      No. 3 · Homosexual imperialism said…
      We Ugandans will ignore criminal colonialists, descendants of slave traders and imperialists who are keen to undermine and berate African societies with their homosexual neo-colonialism.

      So after allowing gays, next is bestiality ? Human right to sleep with your dog, cat, horse etc…?

      Shame on you homophobic homos
      ____________________________________________

      So again, you don’t like “Neo Colonialism”? fine, then stop taking all the western aid money. You can’t survive and run your country as a functioning government without coming to the west crying for a handout and now you complain that the West is repulsed by your attempts to murder and slaughter your own people based on nothing more than bigotry? How weak are you? You call criticism “Neo Colonialism”? Sorry if the world pointing out that your country is still the same as it was under Idi Amin has hurt your feelings weakling.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 10:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Attmay
      Attmay

      Go, Cam, go!

      Homosexuality is natural, good, moral, and superior to your baby-farming heterosexual perversion that is responsible for every mass murder and every environmental catastrophe in history. The world’s natural resources are not infinite and there is a limit to how many humans the Earth can sustain before mass starvation and death begins. Homosexuality is the only way to prevent this.

      Countries that ban homosexuality automatically forfeit their sovereignty. Uganda should be colonized, and your incoherent babbling proves that you are not fit to govern.

      Africa is the origin of AIDS. The blood of gay men who died from AIDS-related illness is on YOUR hands, Africa.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 1:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      In No 5, CAM replied to “Ugandan” by saying, “You never mingle in our affairs because you can’t. You’re too busy taking all of our aid money and still having your coutnries fail.”

      … he’s also too busy changing identities when he reposts the same thing. On a different thread, his name was “What’s Next?”

      Dec 10, 2009 at 11:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • romeo
      romeo

      I think we’re seeing Uganda’s problem here. Their posters can’t carry a single rational thought. All they can do is rave. Keep on raving guys. Get’s you nowhere.

      Dec 10, 2009 at 11:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Keith Kimmel
      Keith Kimmel

      Heh, I wonder if the government of Uganda read my blog post on Facebook where I advocated assassinating Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, Prime Minsiter Apolo Nsibambi and Ethics Minister James Nsaba Buturo…

      Dec 11, 2009 at 12:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Keith Kimmel
      Keith Kimmel

      This is great news indeed. I wonder if it was a publicity stunt all along, a thought I had never considered until reading the comments here. Surely if they actually started actually killing gays, the UN would have stepped in and it would not have been pretty. But threatening to do it? Well, that gets publicity to their plight.

      Dec 11, 2009 at 12:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 9, Keith Kimmel wrote, “Heh, I wonder if the government of Uganda read my blog post on Facebook where I advocated assassinating Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, Prime Minsiter Apolo Nsibambi and Ethics Minister James Nsaba Buturo…”

      … has the FBI paid you a visit yet? Hope you got advise
      from a lawyer first. While our government sometimes turns a blind eye towards U.S. citizens advocating the assassination of non-U.S. government officials ( http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez/ has one example), You shouldn’t assume you can get away with it in all cases even if you are merely joking.

      Dec 11, 2009 at 1:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Totakikay
      Totakikay

      To the Ugandan posters on here, shame on you! Why do you think Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender civil rights organizations and supporters exists? Why do you think so many people are becoming supportive of Gay Rights? Because we believe that Gay Rights is a part of HUMAN RIGHTS in general for ALL people in this world. Since your from a different country, lets reflect on the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, starting with Article 1.

      Dec 11, 2009 at 1:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jessi
      jessi

      @Homosexual imperialism: “descendants of slave traders and imperialists” How funny you say that, because most of the members of “The Family” are just that. You are just lap dogs they are trying to use to do their dirty work for them. Don’t think your special or anything.

      Dec 11, 2009 at 3:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Karl M.
      Karl M.

      Uganda is a dry run for what these people intend to do in the united states.

      The right-wing populist movement is stronger than ever–witness the current adoration of Sarah Palin–and The Family will weather its little spate of scandals just fine. The world will forget all about this business in a few weeks, but the flow of money will continue and their influence will continue to grow.

      As long as the gay movement thinks it has to accommodate conservatives, it will be at the mercy of the likes of Inhofe, with whom no accommodation is possible.

      Dec 11, 2009 at 7:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Yes
      Yes

      @Homosexual imperialism
      I never understood how homosexuality somehow leads to beastiality. Is it really so hard to stay on topic? Is it it too hard to argue against one thing that you have to add something unrelated to try and make a point? When a man has sex with another man*, both are HUMANS and CONSENT to it. Unless you’re stupid enough to think gay people run around raping eachother.
      *note: no one seems to care if its two females. Because the thought of two females together turns you on, yes? Hypocrite. Every time you get a hard on for two females you might as well be waving the rainbow flag.

      Dec 12, 2009 at 11:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • naghanenu
      naghanenu

      @Yes,

      Permit me to clarify..if it isn’t straight it is a perversion. Honestly, if it isn’t legal man on woman sex….as far as many are concerned it is a perversion. Religion actually lumps them all together.

      Bestiality, homosexuality, incest and paedophilia are the big no no hell nos in African culture. Except of course, the Muslims who enjoy marrying them under-age girls buuuut…i digress.

      Dont bother trying to reason with them for another couple of decades or centuries. Other african countries have harsher laws…Uganda just publicised theirs. You’d be appalled what happens to gay men in that continent…be glad and happy you’re in America

      Dec 13, 2009 at 3:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • staciegirlie
      staciegirlie

      Go Cam. What Africa really needs to do is use the free money from the West to give all their men vasectomies so they can stop making all those babies they can’t afford to feed. Problem solved.

      @Attmay, don’t you believe AIDS came from Africa one little bit. That’s what the WHO would have you believe. But they also have another lie they tell.

      People believe AIDs is a gay disease because that’s been put out there by the WHO as well. So which one is it? You can see right there the story doesn’t add up.

      HIV/AIDS is GENETICALLY ENGINEERED and was administered to both the Gay population and citizens of poor African countries and other undesirable groups of people the government loves to hate. Believe it.

      Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • staciegirlie
      staciegirlie

      Continued from above. My college professor smuggled the video into the US in 1990 from the UK because OUR government which has freedom of speech as first amendment, had BANNED this video. Now thanks to YOUTUBE you can spy on the government almost better than they can spy on you. I found the video for you to watch and I will add other links as well.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxR6yQ-K4Wc

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI&feature=related

      Dec 15, 2009 at 2:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • letterstouganda
      letterstouganda

      If anyone is interested, I created a new website:

      Letters to Uganda: Sharing Messages of Hope and Support to LGBT Ugandans

      LETTERS TO UGANDA was created to be a means for all decent and fair-minded people of the world to send their letters of support to the LGBT people of Uganda. Many of us cannot affect change within Uganda itself, but we can let gay and lesbian Ugandans know that they are not alone; that there are people in this world who support them, who value them as human beings, and who are speaking out against injustice.

      This is your opportunity to send a message of hope and solidarity to the people of Uganda. Please submit your letter of support today.

      Visit http:// LettersToUganda.WordPress.com to read more.

      Dec 19, 2009 at 8:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • FirstShot
      FirstShot

      I like how people are responding to virulent homophobia with virulent racism.

      http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/12/10/on-imperialism-blacks-as-the-other-and-gays-in-uganda/

      Now, that’s the way to respond.

      Jan 5, 2010 at 6:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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