Thank goodness Nashville’s Vanderbilt University now has its own chapter of gay fraternity Delta Lambda Phi, because its existing Christian frat Beta Upsilon Chi made clear there’s no room for gays. Two unidentified now-former brothers say they were pushed out because of their sexuality.
The claims arrived in the student newspaper The Vanderbilt Hustler (ahem!), with the two men — one a student who graduated from Vanderbilt this year and the other a current student who was forced out of the frat in August — saying their sexuality was the only reason they were “deactivated” (Greek speak for leaving a fraternal group).
The alum says Greg Wigger, Nu chapter president of the frat (aka “Brothers Under Christ,” or BYX) confronted him about his sexuality in April in the alum’s dorm room after rumors went around he “might be struggling with homosexuality.” After saying he was gay, the alum says Wigger told him the matter would stay between the two of them, but 10 days later the alum was informed he was being deactivated. The second now-former frat brother says he also had a conversation with Wigger, and was told his sexuality would prevent him from staying with the frat; he could either voluntarily leave of be expelled. He chose the former.
What basis does Wigger and Beta Upsilon Chi — which faced a hazing investigation earlier this year — have for ousting gay brothers? “We believe that sex is a gift of God to be enjoyed only inside the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman,” says BYX’s Code of Conduct. “Therefore, we will not condone such activity as homosexuality, fornication, or adultery. (I Corinthians 6:15-20; Hebrew 13:4).” Except the frat is a registered religious/spiritual student organization, which means it must abide from Vanderbilt’s own anti-discrimination policy, which specifically bars “discriminating in membership selection, officer or adviser appointments, or practices of organizational activities on the basis of race, sex, religion, color, national or ethnic origin, age, disability, military service, or sexual orientation, in compliance with Federal law, including the provisions of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, Sections 503 and 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.”
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Wigger isn’t answering interview questions. And Mark Bandas, the school’s students dean, says allegations in a student paper aren’t enough to act — a formal complaint must be filed. That administrators won’t take the lead and initiate at least an informal investigation based on claims of anti-gay discrimination is, frankly, ridiculous. (Would they react the same way to claims students were kicked out because they were black?)
But what if these two students file a formal complaints … then what?
Can an anti-gay Christian frat exist within a university committed to fighting discrimination? Sure. Just don’t formally recognize them as a student group or a member of Vanderbilt’s Greek community; don’t provide any student funds; do not let them use university (and thus, partially taxpayer-funded) property or resources. See, when you create an organization that actively discriminates against an entire group of people, you are not rewarded with privileges. You are stripped of them. It’s not an infringement on religious freedom. It is the mandatory protection of basic civil rights.
(NB: This wouldn’t be Vanderbilt’s first recent brush with anti-gay controversy: Muslim Chaplain Awadh A. Binhazim says he “doesn’t have a choice” but to support Islam’s belief in killing gays.)
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Andreusz
At last we know. Christ is a top.
Casey
Christ is an asshole.
timncguy
I’m trying to figure out just how these two men were violating any of the frat’s policies just by “being” gay. Apparently all the members of this particular frat must be virgins or married or they are all in violation of the policy. And, if the two gay men were also virgins, they were not in violation of the policy.
Silas
I’d like to see these dudes “out” the frat and spill all they know about the “secret ritual” mumbo jumbo, all the hazing and the secret handshake. Ooh!
Silas
How does one “confirm” a guy’s virginity? Do virgins float? or survive that stake burning thing? Or do Jesus and the Frat Pres. vet the membership list over shots of tequila?
Mike in Asheville
@No. 2 Casey
Christ isn’t the asshole; its Christians who are the assholes (not all Christians but the vast majority of hypocritical so-called “Bible-believing” ones).
prohomo
@Mike in Asheville: Don’t be so sure, Mike. After all, if Jesus is God, he allows all evil and suffering in this world. That alone merits the title “asshole”. Nobody knows for sure what Jesus was really like. It’s all opinions.
Aaron in Honolulu
I wonder if they expel guys who had sex before marriage. Probably not. Fucking hypocrites.
Blake J
Religious teachings in the USA, as long as you are not gay (bisexual) you can get into heaven.
Blake J
@Blake J: God excepts everyone but the “queers”! I would never respect a God like that!
Xtian99
this is why religion ruins everything- people believing fables written by a 2000 year old idiots who did not know the reason the rain fell or things fell down instead of up. But these poor dim things are so lost in the world that when they stumble upon this club where you are “chosen” and “children of God” they jump on it because they are so insecure and intellectually stiffled. In their “jesus club” they rule via edict from God they wrote, whereas in the real world they are inferior misfits who by all rights should wander away from the herd and be culled by the wolves so their inferiority cannot be bassed on to future generations.
And in true spirit, if Jesus did exist and rever return, he’d be on of us, not one of them, and they’d crucify him all over again.
Anyhoo, I belive in Harry Potterism, so off to shine my wand!
Cam
Look, I’m getting really bored with this PC tendency today to try to exucse all behavior because of religeon.
We don’t let women take I.D. photos while wearing face covering bhurka’s
We don’t allow young girls to be circumcized
We don’t allow people to legally take mind altering drugs
We don’t allow blacks to be discriminated against
We don’t allow slavery
We don’t allow child abuse
We don’t outlaw the mixing of fibers
Etc….
So can we just get over this and cop to the fact that homosexuality being “Against their religeon” is just the bigots excuse to be bigots. If they don’t follow every other aspect of their religeon then I don’t want to hear it.
Greg
If these boys want the full Christian fraternity experience, they should all join a monastery.
In the meantime, they should be screened for all sex acts outside of holy matrimony (including masturbation), aka “adultery,” and force all members who fall short of this heavenly grace from their righteous position “under Christ.”
I hope a complaint is filed, and something is done about this. It would be nice to see the money pooled by LGBT non-profit organizations invested into this case. Despite the outcome, I believe it’s worth it to raise a fuss about such issues, if not more than to raise awareness of how bass ackwards our nation is, particularly in the Bible Belt.[img]http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/cgo0057l.jpg[/img]
gotcha
I would just like to say that this is not representative of the Vanderbilt student body. Vanderbilt is a great school. I came out to my fraternity at Vandy and everything was fine. That being said I think the BYX fraternity needs to be put on probation or something asap. Regular fraternities get kicked off campus for much dumber, less controversial things like drinking. And the administration surely doesn’t wait for formal complaints by students to investigate those instances of drinking. I hope there are strong repercussions from the administration.
Michael
Forget the religion and university code aspect. What’s the purpose of closeted gay guys wanting to belong to a straight frat?
Brutus
@Cam: What does that matter? What if we added to your list, “We don’t let men have sex with other men?”
Brutus
@Cam: Oh, and actually, we do allow people legally to take mind-altering drugs for sincere religious purposes.
Taylor Siluwé
No. 6 · Mike in Asheville
I agree. The God of the bible is clearly, by definition, an asshole.
Genesis 22:2
And he said, Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and get you into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering on one of the mountains which I will tell you of.
But he was only kidding. If that doesn’t qualify as asshole, then he’s at least a douchebag. A big one.
None of these college boys are virgins (if that includes masturbation). C’mon!! That fact should be pretty easy to document.
Hell, I’ll volunteer to go undercover. 😉
acem
Why be somewhere where you’re not wanted? If a certain fraternity doesn’t want gay “brothers,” then go pledge another. You raise such a fuss about being allowed to remain, they get their hands tied and are forced to let you stay. From there, I imagine it would be a cold and lonely experience when your “brothers” go out of their way to not fraternize with you.
hephaestion
“Therefore, we will not condone such activity as homosexuality, fornication, or adultery.”
The above quote from the frat is hilarious. Has anyone ever been thrown out of this frat for fornication? Ha!
nineinchnail
What next!? Ritual beatings of Afro-Americans? Religion is the evil that is taking this planet to oblivion.
Hilarious
@Cam: “We don’t allow blacks to be discriminated against”
Since when?
Must be nice to have the luxury of pretending racism no longer exists. Gays are the only ones who have to deal with phobia and hate right? All about you and no one else.
Jimmy
Now those Beta Upsilon Chi men can get back to their No-Homo Handy-Js for Jesus.
Jason2
I have no problem with a private club excluding anyone for any reason. Regardless of the University Rules its quite easy to keep anyone out of a Fraternity based on race, religion or the color of their shirt as it only takes one vote to keep someone from pledging or becoming a brother. The one voter does not have to discuss his reason for voting no. In my Fraternity we had a couple of guys that had to be coaxed away with dinner to keep them out of the vote while we offered a pledge ship to a Jewish guy. Otherwise either one could keep the guy out.
These are the rules in the private club and no one outside of that club should have any say on those rules regardless of how distasteful those rules are and as long as they are not physically hurting someone. If you don’t like it I suggest you don’t become a member.
Hilarious
@Jason2: Now I’m 100% certain you’re a Queerty staffer who only makes ridiculous comments to get more replies.
jason
What these Christian hypocrites believe is that homosexuality is a sin unless it’s two “hot lesbians” performing for a crowd of sleazy straight guys for the purpose of mutual male bonding and masturbation. This is what they believe.
Matt S
I don’t think they should discriminate, but playing devil’s advocate, don’t fraternities already discriminate on the basis of sex? I mean, could a woman pledge this frat?
Now, you’ll say, no but she can pledge a sorority, which is a similar organization. By that token, a gay person could join Delta lambda phi, right?
Jim in St Louis
freedom of association
timncguy
They can discriminate all they want to. Nobody is going to stop them. But, if they do discriminate, they are disqualified from receiving any funding from the university. So, it is totally up to the organization whether or not they want to continue to discriminate and give up any assistance they get from the school.
DR
I checked the website for this fraternity. Not sure how much money Beta Upsilon chi gets from Vanderbilt. Also not sure how much this organization is really involved in Greek life; judging from what I read, chapters probably stay as far away as possible.
Chapters do not own or rent houses on campus due to liability insurance issues which, I can tell you from experience, will jack up the per-semester dues.
Chapters do not belong to the Interfraternity Council on the ground that (a) nationals does not want to pay dues to the IFC and (b) nationals is aware that the requirement that all brothers be Christian could run afoul of many schools’ non-discrimination clauses.
Looks like if a chapter needs space, it rents it for something big, just like any other organization would do.
Not having a seat on the IFC and not owning/renting a house on or off campus is a major impediment to being fully involved in Greek life.
BYX@A&M
As a member of Beta Upsilon Chi and a Student Senator @ Texas A&M my heart and prayers go out to the Vanderbilt BYX guys. It’s such a sad situation. Heads up: we are NOT technically Greek nor do we take school money. That is very false. We are just a group of guys that share the common bond of the love for Jesus Christ and act as a social fraternity. And for the record homosexual thoughts or desires is not a sin that would keep you from joining BYX (or heaven for that matter). We, as loving and imperfect Christians, know that homosexuality is a temptation for some guys, but we believe acting on those temptations is where sin takes place and that is something we choose not to overlook. (All based on biblical doctrine). Nobody is forced to join BYX. Doesn’t every religion deserve respect and a place at the table?
BYX@OU
@hephaestion: Yes.
BYX@UT ALUM
@BYX@A&M
Saying that homosexuality is a temptation is where your argument falls apart with the majority of the people who visit this site. Anyone who is gay will tell you being gay is not a choice. It is innate. Why would God create homosexual beings and then create a religion that discriminates against them?
“God’s word” is outdated. Does your sister sorority, Sigma Phi Lambda, still believe in Leviticus’ teaching that everything they touch, sit on, or lie on during their periods is forever unclean?
God, if you’re listening, send us a few 21st century chapters.
BYX@GAY
Actually, I must admit that I was very tempted one time to engage in a selfish homosexual act. One of my brothers-in-Christ was wearing a pair of loose sweat pants (we don’t allow tight shorts in our Fraternity)…well, anyway, one thing lead to another when he invited me back to his room and…oh, God forgive me…I saw his blessed baby-maker flopping around under his sweats, and, as the Devil took control of my loins, I ran back to my room and uncontrollably spill my seed.
Please Jesus wash away my sins I screamed, as I tried desperately to push my sacred jism back into my still engorged vessel of bearing fruit, but I didn’t know how to do that. So in the name of God, I swallowed what I could squeeze out of the sacred underwear Mitt Romney sent me as a thank you gift for the 2012 campaign donation I made to him.
Now, like the whale in the story of Jonah, I am keeping my seed safe in my belly until someday, God willing, it will find its way back down to my holy pole and exit reborn in Jesus into the sacred womb of a proper female bride of Christ.
After this encounter, I told my friend what I have done, and he suggested that we swallow each other’s seed and perhaps we can someday have each other’s children when we find a suitable female vessel to deposit them in. So, now I am recycling his seed and he is doing the same for me. But, as God has instructed me, this is only for the glory of Jesus and our seed will someday be our gift to God, for our wives, and for begetting HIS children.
Ahhhh, men..
I mean…
Amen.
BYX Pledge
As a pledge of “Beta Upsilon Chi my heart and prayers go out to the Vanderbilt BYX guys. It’s such a sad situation. Heads up: we are NOT technically Greek nor do we take school money. That is very false. We are just a group of guys that share the common bond of the love for Jesus Christ and act as a social fraternity. And for the record homosexual thoughts or desires is not a sin that would keep you from joining BYX (or heaven for that matter). We, as loving and imperfect Christians, know that homosexuality is a temptation for some guys, but we believe acting on those temptations is where sin takes place and that is something we choose not to overlook. (All based on biblical doctrine). Nobody is forced to join BYX. Doesn’t every religion deserve respect and a place at the table?”
This couldn’t have been said any better.
13Zeroither
Fuck religion. It needs to die. But it would take a miracle if someone had a huge army to overthrow the governments of the world to create a global culture suicide to start all over (in order to murder religion. Fuck it into the depths of time). In its place would be the new world with each country having its own unique food, clothes, language, culture, etc. BUT ALL of the countries in the new world will be not racist, sexist, and homophobic.
A person can dream… 🙂